DONT BUY AN APRILIA 660 / My reasons for trading in a 1.5 month old bike
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- SORRY FOR ALL THE UMMMMM's.
If this bike is your dream bike more power to you - But for me it was gutless honestly felt like a slightly quicker version of my very first bike (2011 ninja 400) MASSIVE dead spots in the rpm's, very poor build quality compared to all the Japanese brands, overpriced and rattily. Hell the rear pegs rattled like a Childs toy and trust me they were tight. The bike had the worst fit and finish. I was blown away with how cheap the dash and entire bike felt personally, Half of the bike was wrapped black cheap plastic. but its all subjective and this is just my opinion.
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So basically:
1) Check engine light error which was not caused by anything... reset by dealer
2) A fork seal was leaking on a part not made by Aprilia and fixable under warranty
3) Supply chain issue which literally Every. Single. Company. Is having.
4) Third hand stories of isolated events (engine recall has fixed the majority of these and is no longer an issue)
5) Personal preferences
Also, it's not jerky, but even if it was, it has a throttle response adjustment. Doesn't affect horsepower, it affects the mapping of the throttle to make it easier to apply... like in stop and go traffic. Also, a loose chain can cause jerkiness.
people getting triggered when someone gives honest review xD
@@wurf5336 actually that was not an honest review the guy was just talking about his personal experience and I've been watching rs660 videos since 2020 and this guy is the only one that has said any of those things
exactly!! he's a bit salty that's all
@@wurf5336 getting triggered by the bulletizing of someone's "honest" review :)
Exactly. I don't own a Tuono and I was curious to hear about some major issues. This review is a joke. If you prefer the MT-09, fine, I accept that, it's a different type of bike, but stop lying to yourself. You are not selling the Tuono because it is unreliable, but because you want a MT-09
I have a 2022 RS 660 other than a squeaky rear brake which the dealer is fixing I have had no issues so far, it's been an absolute pleasure to ride during the break in period
Squeeky rear breaking is normal on a new bike tho
Same
Can second. 2021 tuono 660, 3.5k miles so far and Ive had no issues to date, fun bike on the track and street.
I also have RS 660. Had at 200 km or so check engine light, dealer checked it, there was no issue, reset it, and since I have no problems with the bike. Im at around 3500 km now.
Bike is a pocket rocket, with good sound, fuel economy and all the electronics you will ever need. Sits fantastic. If I had to nick pick, on it, I would like sharper brakes, and better suspencion. Otherwise a perfect bike. This guy just have bad luck, and maybe i'ts just not his ''thing".
I think I’m a take my chances with it lol
Bought an Aprilia and couldn’t be happier with it. No issues at all.
lets just hope you didnt buy a 660 LOL
I own this bike... 4,500 miles in 3 months with 0 issues. Hate to hear that you have had problems, but she's been a sweetheart to me.
great bike for sure just had some issues and missed my mt09
It’s a lemon.
Luck of the draw bro their trash
@@vincentwhite9603sure..
I've owned 15 bikes and test ridden many others (including the MT-09) and this is probably the best bike I have ever owned. Brilliant for road use, very hard to beat in terms of pure riding pleasure. They nearly all suffer from a squeaky rear brake for the first 1,000 ish kms, but it sorts itself out. Factory version with a few extra bhp and different gearing is even better. My verdict: buy one!
you had 15 bikes and you think this is the best? you must've went through some terrible bikes in the past lol
I think your opinion is valid. just wont be touching anything but Japanese bikes moving forward :) and for the price the 660 is NOT WORTH IT
The mt09 absolutely kills the Aprilia in all depts, except for looks.
@@douglasalexander4348 1000% agree
@@Ryan.Kooper Mt09 is an addiction haha. I’ve got a street triple 765 which is very nice indeed, worth a demo ? but hasn’t got the edginess of the mt. Good riding !
Hi RSK. Thank you for your video.
I’m a perfectly happy rider of a RS660 for 18 months, with no failure nor trouble at all !
I find this bike is great, especially in the small curves on hilly roads in my region(south of France).
The shifter is astounding, handling easy, torque available at low RPM.
You can ride it fast or quietly, rather confortable for a sportsbike.
The only real drawback for me is the rear suspension : cheap, sluggish, unadjustable in hydraulic… this is the only part I changed quickly for a local manufacturer (EMC, France)… and now, I have my perfect bike !!!!
I’m super happy you’re enjoying the bike! Everyone is looking for something different. Glad you’ve had no issue, you definitely got one of the good ones! Which is rare from all the information I’ve gathered :) definitely a good handling bike but not for me personally not worth the money and I really dislike the engine. But like I said everyone’s different!
How's the longevity man? I'm thinking about getting an Aprilia soon. I wanna know if there are any issues in long term because for sure I'll be riding it for atleast a decade when I get one
@@mukeshprakash8112 I've mine two years and no issues, but I've a couple of other bikes and I really only ride the RS660 for fun and there's only about 6k on it. It's garaged too. A decade is a longish time mate, so couldn't say how it will be then... or any bike for that matter. But it's pretty much accepted by many that Japanese bikes go on and on, if looked after. Maybe my RS will too, but who knows? I've an FJR and it's eight years old now and it's built like a tank... that could well outlive me!
Hit the one year mark coming up on 6k with my 2021 Tuono 660. After a few months I found a little oil leak that was so small that if it were not for dust sticking to it, it would not have been seen. Fixed by the dealer in less than an hour and other than that the bike has been perfect. The Tuono 660 is a very comfortable bike with ample power. It handles very well and mine has been very dependable. Also, the dealership I work with has all the add-on parts you mentioned (IMU, Quick Shifter, even an exhaust with a tune) in stock. I do find it odd how you trash the bike and then admit you are not a fan of the Twin. Why did you buy a twin? Then you (at 3:16) say it's a jerky bike at low RPMs, like un-ridable, then you rant on and on. Then you say, but besides that, it handles great, it has great breaks, flickable etc. I also noticed the chicken strips are quite small on your bike. After listening to this video one would deduce that the problem with this particular bike is the squishy part on the top.
Truth. You made a mistake in your purchase of the bike and made a video to trash the bike to convince yourself that the bike is so bad you are willing to take a loss to get a different bike. This was a very unnecessary video. Maybe you are married and are trying to get your wife to "allow" you to trade in the Aprilia for a different bike. A man just says well that is not what I wanted, that was a mistake, and he sucks up the loss, buys what he wants. I bought a Honda 650L and after about 6 moths I realized I don't like riding in the dirt. I bought my Aprilia and the Honda sat for months. Sold the Honda with less than a year of ownership and lost over $3K just to get it out of my garage. Some mistakes, Ya just suck it up.
100% unnecessary video. This kid is just being an immature kid and regrets his purchase.
@@moneyfreak161 The bike had a fork seal leak and its brand new. That alone is enough for me not to buy it. That is unheard of with a Japanese Bike. And Mr Musicman above stated he had an oil leak. Again completely unacceptable for a brand new bike, particularly one that cost nearly $13K out the door. That kind of crap is what I would expect from CFMoto.
@@spartanx169x and the check engine light, and allll the stories of them blowing up lol thank goodness someone had some common sense in this comment thread.
The bike is absolute garbage. Every time I talk to a dealer about it they list off an ungodly amount of issues bikes they sold have had… if this video was unnecessary then why does it have so many views? Personally I think your comment makes you seem like u have the bike and hate anyone who talks bad about your precious little starter twin. The bike has 100hp and feels like a ninja 400 lmao. Besides all the other issues the 660 platform has. Thank you for Japanese bikes that actually are fun to ride as aggressively as you want with absolutely no worry of breakdown or “oil leak” my old mt09 was beaten on for 35,000 miles not 1 issues ever. You’re clearly just butthurt but thanks for the view and the comment big guy. Dude wrote a novel he was so upset he bought a lemon 🤣
Your entire argument sounds like a triggered fanboy.
" I also noticed the chicken strips are quite small on your bike. After listening to this video one would deduce that the problem with this particular bike is the squishy part on the top. "
On what planet does that make any sense!?!?
I guess to each his own. I've had my Tuono 660 for 10 months and love it. No issues so far. Appreciate the video. Good honest takes.
1) Engine check light - just calibration of crankshaft sensor, 5 minutes work in service
2) leaking fork, it is Kayaba, can happen to any KYB equipped bike
3) in low rpms absolute ok, fueling is smooth, I have no problem riding my 660 in low speeds and RPM, there is a switch, you can set MODE Commute and then throttle response is velvet smooth, in other modes it is up to your wrist-feel
4) quickshifter delay, all manufacturers have logistics problems nowadays, I ordered my Tuono with QS and they delivered it with it
I think you bought wrong bike for your needs without proper test ride and longer decision making so I understand you try to find as many negatives as possible. My bike had only engine check light issue, they calibrated it during 1000 km first service and since then it is the most fun to ride bike I have ever ridden. Enjoy your Yamaha, I heard a lot of stories from my friends with Yamaha issues. ;-) Peace
first and second one isn't an excuse
@@xendo6919 of course it is not, first is not dangerous, just light on dashboard, solution at next service, second is common thing and Kayaba is to blame, that's all... no hysteric reactions needed
Plenty of bikes equiped with kayaba forks. But only aprilia has issues on that. Strange.
Sorry to hear about your issues. I've had mine for two years now (from new) and haven't had any problems whatsoever, so hopefully that will continue. Lovely little bikes (if you don't have the issues you've had, of course).
I have had my 21 April RS660 for 2 years have not had a single problem with it. My bike is very smooth at all speeds and has great acceleration. Great stopping great cornering all around it is an awesome bike. My previous bike was a honda c r600
It sounds like you shouldn’t have purchased this in the first place since “you don’t like twins”. You are looking for reasons to convince yourself to get back on the mt-09, which is fine, you should for sure own and ride exactly what YOU want. I just think telling people not to own something for the reasons you state just sounds like you a mad and bitter about something…
As an owner of a Tuono 660 for 1 year, I can say this bike is legit. Yeah sure it’s not a platform that’s been available for that long, so things will pop up hear and there that need to get taken care of, but nothing out of the ordinary from any other brand new platform.
Of course is mad and bitter. He spent a lot of money in a bike that only brings him headaches. And Suzuki launched a new platform a year ago, the 800cc parallel twin, and no issues reported yet.
Coming from a 2021 MT10 (which sadly some bastards stole a few months back), i can wholeheartedly say that the tuono 660 was the smoothest commuter i have ever ridden. Even smoother than the MT10 i owned. Apart from some engines that were recalled and an oil nut issue, which was also recalled, this is so far one of the most reliable middleweights in the market. Sure you ve had bad luck and there is bad blood between you and the brand but bro there are very few bikes that match the character and pose of the 660, and all of them have a much higher pricetag.
Sorry you had that experience.
I cant wait to get the Tuono 660 Factory in a couple of months
I've the RS660 and I love it... and that's also being lucky and privileged enough (and old enough) to have a H2 SX and FJR in the garage. The missus has the Tuono 660 Factory and it's a beaut. Hope you're getting on with yours... and as I say, no issues with mine or hers yet! Fingers crossed.
I’ve also had about 15 motorcycles over the years. I have an RS660. Best I have ever owned including two previous Mille platforms and a bunch of Ducatis. Absolutely brilliant bike. Your complaints are trivial nit-picky stuff. Perhaps a Honda Rebel would suit you better.
I just test rode a Tuono 660. Only thing wrong with it was the front had a weird sound like crumpling aluminum foil when the engine was under load. I didn't find it jerky at all in commute mode (throttle mode 3). I did find it jerky in dynamic (throttle mode 2 & 1). The MT07/09 I had previously wasn't nearly as good with the suspension, comfort, brakes, or much of anything else. It did have a nice engine but prefer the 660's engine. Sorry you had a bad experience. It definitely leaves a bad taste and don't blame you for going a different direction. Hopefully the next bike is issue free as you'll need to switch again.
I pre-ordered and had delivered one of the first batch of 2021 RS 660 in the country. Lava Red of course. Not one issue yet. 🤞🏻 It’s really a great all around bike for what it is. Aprilias and Ducatis have always had glitches here and there. Just adds character. If you need a 100% reliable daily driver, go Japanese.
I live in Italy and they had a total engine recall. All RS / Tuonos were called back to their dealers to have a new engine piece assembled.
I’m not sure how you ordered the bike early and you didn’t get called for this major fault.
AHAHAHAH JUST HADS CHARACHTER....WHATTTT? BUAHAHHHH 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣..APRILIA 660 IS A WC ABOUT RELIABLITY
I’ve had my Tuono for 3 months and it’s been faultless, got the quick shifter installed which did take a bit longer than I would of liked. The only downside of owning a Aprilia is the lack of dealerships in the UK and the waiting time of any parts you may need.
I was expecting a list of catastrophic issues in this video, but as far as I can tell the only real issue was an engine light that was reset by the dealer on your first service - very common on brand new bikes. The rest are just some 'horror stories' that you read somewhere on the web.
Oh well if you just need an excuse to buy a 900cc, that's fine, but there is no reason to bash the Aprilia, which is a fantastic bike with top shelf components and a class leading engine.
BTW, I have owned an MT-09 first series, and I sold it after two weeks. Hard to explain, but after the initial instant power excitement, you realise that this type of bike is kind of pointless - useless around corners due to pogo stick suspensions and dumb seating position. Only makes sense if you want to open the gas on a straigh road and pop up wheelies.
Aprilia quality control has gone downhill since 2021. It’s been well documented on all models. It’s a shame because it was pretty good from 2016-2020
I had a MT09 2021 as a second bike (I have also an Superduke R V2) and now, I sold it and bought the Tuono Factory 660 because even if the engine of the MT09 is a blast, the handling is not the best in the twisties. With the Aprilia it's really easy to chase liter bike when the road is full of curve.
You got the word CHASE correct because even in the twisties a good rider on a 1000cc plus bike is going to smoke ya...the 660 is 100 HP, Liter bikes are at minimal 180HP for any name brand that is good...
I am a 2022 rs 660 stars and stripes . Pushing 6200 miles now and no issues .
sounds like you just bought a bike that wasn't for you and that's ok. can we appreciate it being the only one like this in its class, its a stepping stone for other brands to invest money into middleweights. its a super new bike so its gonna have some issues to warranty and it has a fair price tag considering you can get an r7 for a little less money and a lot less hp. also this guys gonna have double the hp on your ninja 400. I ride an sv650 and im buying an rs660 , the jump in power is perfect for me as I want to ride middleweights. but if you expect this to feel like a 600cc machine than you are gonna be disappointed.
its exactly why i will buy one. you had an issue, sad but thats really stupid to say 'dont buy it'.
Alot of the issues have been discussed in the rs660 forums. Alot of fixes already available. The warranty and dealer care is great too. To wake the bike up you need a full exhaust and a tune. It changes the way the bike is.
Just do your due diligence, inspect the bike thoroughly and never put off any maintenance. You will have alot of smiles per miles
Due diligence and inspection had nothing to do with this guys faults. What’s he supposed to do, strip the bike down and check everything on a brand new bike ?
You buy a new bike but gotta look through ," ALOT OF FIXES ALREADY " on a brand new over priced 660...Yep sounds like a solid buy to me... The only thing I bought for my new 2017 Yamaha FZ-09 is oil, filters, and chain lube for the past 6 years. I don't need to look through a list of anything...
All I heard is you want a Yamaha. Typical new vehicle issues. Wasted 3 min of my time. Crybaby.
Wasted 3 mins of your time.... crybaby 😂
Thanks for the review, Id say the only real legit issue here is the waiting for aprilia to ship a quickshifter where you have to wait months, IMO, a harmless check engine light and a small leak that is fixed quickly arent things Id worry about if I were shopping for this bike.
I agree with you, and if for you this bike is perfect more power to you!!! But for me it was gutless honestly felt like a slightly quicker version of my very first bike (2011 ninja 400) MASSIVE dead spots in the rpm's, very poor build quality compared to all the Japanese brands as well, overpriced and rattily. Hell the rear pegs rattled like a Childs toy with no proper fit and finish. I was blown away with how cheap the dash and entire bike felt personally, but its all subjective and this is just my opinion.
Even if it hadn't had issues do you think you could have kept it? Or did the mt09 set a standard that the tuono couldn't live up to? The mt09 is a beast of a machine!
660cc vs 900cc?
I hate twins and the bike was 80% red wrap over cheap black plastic. No power or torque. No fun for me personally unless in corners where this bike shines. Mt09 100% set a standard tho you’re right.
I feel you brother, nothing leaves a bad first impression quite like leaving the dealer and having the CEL come on and stay on for 1000 miles. Because of the countless oil leak stories and supply chain garbage I have been on the fence about getting any other bike aside from Japanese makes.
10000 km and still 0 issues and hope to remain 0 :)
same with mine
I wish you luck! I've heard so many horror stories.
Love my rs660 unfortunate you let a few minor issues put you off it. Incredible machine
Regardless of the issues it had I don’t like twins and it really doesn’t have much power. I just wanted more but it is a great machine. Build quality is questionable tho.
yeah he's just mad. his bike was simply badly assembled by the dealership or whoever
@@Ryan.Kooper Did you just buy a discounted bike? They have faults, hence been discounted. lol
@@Ryan.Kooperif don’t like twins why did you buy one??😂😂😂
If are going to complain about power, why go for a 660cc bike?😂😂
I just don’t get it😂
There is not much reason in your arguments😂
That is not the bike problem
Agree, I'm not spending extra on a bike for it to have issues, for the price of Italian bikes, they should be twice as reliable.
Anyone who doesnt appreciate this bike should not have one thats for sure... Best bike I've ever owned, whatever maintenance costs i endure (which hasnt been any) will be worth it. Well Done Aprilia.
you're correct anyone who wants even the slightest bit of power or build quality shouldn't buy an aprilia SPOT ON. Thank you for your comment.
@@Ryan.Kooper I know im correct, the world agrees with me. You do you.
Yes, the quick shifter is back ordered. However, with a little due diligence and some phone calls to dealerships across the US, I found one in stock and had it shipped to me. It is now installed and working wonderfully.
I was gonna say I would just get on internet and find one myself.....
How was the heat cycle done? How well did you do the break in process?
Slightly quicker version of ninja 400? That has 44ish hp this has closer to 100hp I don't think that is slight at all.
It reminded me of my 400 yes it has more power but it does not feel anywhere close to 100 at the wheel
@@Ryan.Kooper I really think you are mixing up torque for power. It has plenty of power just not a lot of grunt from the initial twist of the throttle
the fork are not made by APRILIA. there are mappings to adjust the throttle response.
Twins are garbage, this bike is known for having major build quality issues. This isn’t a first time the 660 has had issues. The bike is plagued with poor quality and no attention to detail. I’m so happy I got rid of it.
Yeah, a friend who worked parts for a major multi-line MC dealership shared that he was totally frustrated with Aprillia’s lack of customer support, ignoring warranty claims, and long waits for parts. He thought the bikes were awesome, but Aprillia just does not come through on the support side.
I agree, If I was a member of their race team I'm sure I'd feel differently but as it stands I feel they're one of the worst for reliability and customer service
Agree. I have a new 2022 rs Special Edition. Poor quality control, still. No dealer support from EuroCycle. No Facrory support. Good handling. Good looking. A bit gutless, which is a Cardinal Sin, for a sporty bike. I will be giving it away after the 600 mile service. Should have stayed with Japanese hardware...
I will still be looking to buy this bike, thanks dude
Drama...
So much drama. "Listen stories"... Bla Bla Bla.
The issues are from the dealer not from the bike. One light on and world is falling?
About riding... This is one of the best bikes in the market. All experts (non brand payed) love the character of the engine. It is a 2 cylinder! You can't compare with 3 or 4 cylinders. You didn't know what you were buying??? And a 2 cylinder engine (whatever brand) will give you the best punch from the bottom.
Btw... Mt09 have one of the best engines....but suspension, brake and handling are a joke. And the 2022 design is a spooke!
Yeah.. you didn't know the bike, you listen to many stories from others, the dealer isn't good to solve usual/small issues....and the problem is the bike? Bravo 👏👏
And the lies continue. I had my new Yamaha 2017 FZ-09 set for my height and weight... The brakes works absolutely phenominal, the suspension isn't as bad as ALL the internet says it is IF you know how to preload it going into corners, and you literally sit into the bike so I don't have handling issues either...STOP LISTENING to the internet and ride one before talking trash...
Well here's a buyers remorse video "review" if I've ever seen one LOL. Just say you made a mistake and want to get a bigger engine, no need to convince yourself it's a trash bike when it very clearly it isn't.
It was just not your "preference" that's okay! 😁
Sounds more like a dealership customer issue
I just bought a 2021 Tuono 660. And it's perfect. You prolly got a lemon.
I would like to add to what your saying I live in England and can honestly say its the best bike I've rode with no issues, mine is the limited edition and comes with quick shifter, it's an amazing all round bike and I can't see anything that's comes even half close to how good these 660's are, looks like you just have fallen out of love with your bike 😢
i personally HATE twins the bike didnt have enough power for my style of riding. Yamaha just makes such good bikes in my opinion. I didnt like the build quality of the bike at all. it handled well but left so much to be desired for me personally. But I'm not saying its not a perfect bike for some people just really not what I was hoping it would be.
Mine is leaking a mix oil and coolant and also smells like gas. Took it to the dealer and they say that probably was a overflow from the gas tank. Did not mention nothing anything of the oil which is been happening more and more. Did I mentioned it only has 601 miles? It's frustrating!
I just had my engine blow up on a ‘21 Tuono with a bit over 4000 miles. It is being replaced under warranty, after which I’ll continue to daily the bike. 😅
It’s a dope bike but not bulletproof for sure haha glad you’re loving the bike tho
I don't know what's wrong with your bike? Every manufacturer has delivery problems since Corona.
Tunono 660 is one of the few bikes on the market that can be ridden very well at low RPM. I hardly know of a new bike that rides so well down there. 2000rpm and almost no jerking 🙈 have 3x 660 and all without problems. I think your dealer made a mistake installing the software. Other manufacturers can hardly supply any accessories either
yeah or maybe a flash went wrong... or electronic problem... but yeah never got a trouble in a month of riding. Sadly had to give it back when my bike came ^^' And it was cheaper and feel cheaper XD
Since you have had the MT-09 that is the same engine that is in the Yamaha XSR 900. This Aprilia vs the MT-09 what one was more exciting to drive?
Yea. I’d like to know this also.
Looks like your dealer is an issue there is known tsb in the gear shifter ,getting the shifter is super easy to get ? AF1 has them normally and I walked in and out at my dealer to get it. I had to order a right fork assembly ( i dropped it, I'm 5'3" don't judge me lol) and I got it in 2 weeks. Nothing but gold with this bike but the lack of midrange power for commuting is going to force me to buy a liter bike. feel bad for your bad experience but this will make an amazing track bike.
I'm thinking of trading in my 2018 MT09 and paying towards a new 2022 RS660. Have heard such mixed reviews and am pretty skeptical after your video. The wind load on my chest and neck when riding the MT is currently killing me. Was even thinking of paying the extra money for the RSV4 1100. I appreciate your review!
I know what you mean about the wind, Id go rsv4 100% the rs660 is a beginner bike, you will be let down i promise you. even the rsv will have reliability issues from what ive heard. But if you are coming from an mt09 stay with the triple or go for a 4 the twins leave SO MUCH to be desired.
Thanks for your advice brother. I've actually decided to stick with the MT lol. There is something about the MT that still has me smiling from ear to ear, but also has the ability to scare the shit out of me.
@@Ryan.Kooper have you actually ridden an rs660? Best handling bike I've ridden, and definitely not a beginners bike.
@@Drzee1968 it’s a slow twin that can’t get the front wheel up and has less then 100hp to the rear wheel it’s a beginners bike. Just because it handles well (which it does) doesn’t mean it’s not a starter bike. Shit is gutless lol mt09 handles amazing also lol
@@Ryan.Kooper The 660 wheelies easy lol. Thats definently a skill issue... Ive owned the 09 and now own the RS. RS is a better bike in every way. You sound salty in this video expecting a 660 to be like a 1000 TBH
This is like divorcing your knew wife cause you find out she gets heartburn
Well, a new rider facing motorcycles' world problems. Aprilia has its faults for sure but these are just minor things. Consider these bikes nearly handmade, you got one of the best twins ever made, yes a bit small but still very generous and sounds great too. That sounded like a lot of hate for the tiny 660 when you just prefer the MT09, get it back and ride on, make sure to get some good suspensions tho. Its a powerful and reliable washing machine... err bike!
Handmade??
So what your saying is…..I don’t understand motorcycle and how to correct problems…..I also have no patience….I want everything to be perfect and when it’s not done on my time I throw a tantrum like a baby…ps I also live with my mom and she makes my lunch for work…and I don’t pay rent
bought a 23 tuono 660 factory and ive ridden it in properly, taken it to the track and never had any issues. the jerky thing at low rpms is just dependet on riding modes use commute if u think AEM 1 and 2 is to agressive. u probably were just unlucky when u got ur model. its the best bike in its class.
In the twin 600 beginner class yess it has the best performance numbers but hands down I’d take an R7 over the 660 any day of the week. Tbh I’d prefer an mt07 and I hate those bikes lol just no build quality imo but if you love it then that’s all that matters. Thing corners like a beast
well coming from a bigger bike also a 3cyl its obvius you feel it a strange at lower speed, and also it has less hp in top end.
dont know for america how it works cause i live in italy, i own an rs660 and yes there are many problems has you said but not that many to sell a bike in mu opinion and the assistance is very helpful, they change entire motor if you have certain issues but many others are just caused by the vibration that untightens some bolts
To each there own 100% mt09’s were impossible to find when I purchased this bike. But after doing major research (not just watching paid reviewers) many many other people have had large issues as well. The Yamahas I’ve owned never had a single issue even upwards of 40k kms. And with only a 2 year warranty I wanted something reliable. Glad to have another mt09 and like I said the 660 handled amazingly but I like to ride my bikes like I stole them so I didn’t want to be worried about it. A year wait for a quick shifter was also a tell tell sign of what ownership would have been like. There’s many videos on TH-cam of people and their horror stories with Aprilia. For me I made the right choice but not hating anyone who loves this bike it is a good machine if u don’t get a lemon.
@@Ryan.Kooper That sucks about the quick shifter but I think it may be a location issue. I put a down payment on the phone on Thursday and requested a quick shifter and IMU and when I picked it up on Monday it was all instilled and ready to go. But I live in L.A. and there are several Aprilia dealerships in my area.
@@mikeglick3886 Thanks wild the aprilia dealer near me was back ordered then checked with HQ in Italy and they said months, maybe your dealer had stock or something very lucky.
I love this bike, no problems with mine, its perfect for urban commute
Throwing engine lights for no reason is a problem itself. Italian cars and bikes havn't changed much over the years, look nice on the outside and go fast, but fall apart if you fart on them.
amen. I was 1 toot away from a scraped bike.
Sorry but the mt09 is looking It was made of garbage... and is ugly...
A new o-ring for the fork is certainly a spare part but the dealer is being lazy. It will be there on a parts fiche along with fork seals etc.
Missing your old bike, having outlier issues that most people don't have and complaining that an crossplane 2 cylinder is rumbling (who would have thought) really aren't arguments to not recommend this bike in my opinion
What about it being slow as fuck? This bike is garbage you are allowed to have you opinion tho lol it may be wrong but hey you do you!
@@Ryan.Kooper The sales figures and reviews speak for themselves. No need to argue.
@@melvinjo1596 so do the recalls, the bike is a beginner bike enjoy your sv650 lol
@@Ryan.Kooper Around 100 horsepower is perfect for the street. Anything above that and you cant utilize the bikes full potential. I've ridden too many liter bikes on the street. Being bored and annoyed at the same time, because you can't use it. Being able to utilize a bikes full potential is a million times more fun. You should ride the new ZX4 if you get the chance. Truly eye opening. So satisfying
@@Ryan.Kooper Not everyone can be a good rider and unlock a bikes true potential. Overconfidence because the bike doesn't feel fast enough is what stops most immature riders from progressing. You will learn way more and way faster on a 'slow' bike. Thats a fact. The Tuono 660 is neither slow nore a beginner bike nore comparable to an sv650
@RyanMT09 Thankyou for making me realise that I must be the goddamn luckiest dude in the whole motorcycle buying world cos my Tuono has been a ripper! 2 yrs, 16,000 trouble free kms and grins so big my helmet nearly cracked. Trouble was you bought a silver one, shoulda gone black my man...
If yours doesn’t have issues you are one of the lucky ones brother!! It’s a crazy good handling bike twins just arnt for me personally! And ya silver was a bad choice lol
I owned RS660 and currently owning Tuono V4 with 9000 kms and zero complaints, so I am not a paid reviewer and many reviewers are not. I would never buy any other brand, especially those soulless Japanese brands. If you wanna play safe and seek absolute reliability buy yourself a Honda, Suzuki or whatever, but do not present your case depicting a brand as bad.
On the shipping side, I order parts and accessories from Italy and they ship in days, unless you are shipping with postal service.
Italian brands have character and soul and perform like no other, they are never to be compared to other brands.
Im getting RS660 hopefully in a couple years. The closest dealership is 3 hours away but I can just ride my other motorcycles if i need any warranty work done…
The RS660 nails every check mark of a fun practical sport bike for the road but all Aprilia's leak, always reliability issue's, always some thing... I just don't get any of that with my Suzuki's lol
People can blast Suzuki for lack of cutting edge tech but they shred corners for 100K miles trouble free.
except its a twin but I agree. I'll stick with Yamaha
Are you mad or something? Hands down, this is one of the best bikes or the best bike on this category.
Slow, cant even power wheelie LMAO bike handles well but is covered in vinyl stickers LMAO least dependable bike (rated by experts) LMAO sounds like a tractor and is WAY OVER priced.. enjoy your paperweight that bike is pure TRASH
@@Ryan.Kooper You can't wheelie is your problem LMAO, people do wheelies on 125cc if they know how to do it. Anyways go get a car, motorbikes are clearly not for you LMAO.
I know someone who has had one for just on a year and done 15,000 miles on it and absolutely adores the 660
1: you had a CEL which has been set off without effect on anything
2: you had a lemon fork which as been taken in guarantee
3: you’re making a big deal about the delivery delay of a damn QS that you don’t need (ever heard about clutchless shifting without quickshifters? That’s what we did for 35+ years)
4: all devices containing mechanical parts moving together from all brands suffers some early defects on some limited amount of products, still no big deal and carried by the guarantee
I don’t see any real issues there, you just bought a bike that doesn’t fit your needs
do not agree with this review
have tuono 6 months, no problem white quickshifter and whatever
Aprilia service and servicing is a lottery.
The good ones like AF1 are awesome....mostly they are awful.
I've owned 4 Aprilia's since 2006.
If you can fault find and service your bike, you're good to go.
Great bikes, Piaggio, less so.
Be prepared to do your own maintenance & repairs if you want something to ride.
The UK issue was probably for the different fuel we use here now (E10)
Wtf dealer out here talking utter shit.
I can't believe they said drive it more then when it didn't go away they went on to round it up to the 1k service. They should've dealt with it there and then. Such lazy behavior, like all they had to do is plus it in and check the code.
Im sorry this was your experience absolutely disgusting behaviour.
I've personally been told not to touch aprilia and im glad you came out and mentioned this to the community.
Thank you! I really appreciate the comment. I agree I won’t ever be dealing with that dealer again or purchasing an Aprilia. I personally know a few people who are having nothing but issues.
So you had an issue with a suspension component that isn’t even made by Aprilia and that’s your only actual problem
I would never put a quick shifter on any motorcycle so your bike needed a o ring on the fork cap ? Thats it ?
They dealership told him that the whole fork setup would need to be replaced...
What dealer did you purchase from?
I have an MT09 and I can safely say that the MT platform once you ride it as a street bike it is just such a great bike. I think you are being unfair on the RS660 - for a start it’s a twin - and owning a twin you are just explaining jerkiness which is completely relevant to the attributes associated to a twin and you’ve also gone from basically a 900 triple to a 660cc and lost a cylinder. They are totally different animals. Italian bikes always have those Nuances of running the bike in for a period and being a new generation of bike I’m sure there would be teething issues.
The MT platform has just set a street riding bar that is hard to compete with and totally understandable to go back to something that feels right!
Just tighten the fork cap fir the oil leak.....had it happen on Japanese MX bikes
Almost bought RS660 but went duke 890R Instead.....wish I had some wind protection though
Think that thing is jerky my 890R is really snappy, I got used to it
Takes a bit of time to get used to different bikes
Wish Aprilia made like a 800 or 900 RS, like 150 Hp would be perfect
I would buy Aprilia no problem, beautiful bikes excellent handling, top componets.....few glitches here and there....definetly helps to know how to work on them
I love my Tuono 660 but it blew the coolant gasket and now after "repairs" it's leaking. Has anyone experienced this? I also got the check engine light on after 800 km; the dealership never explained why this happens other than to say that it's a "non-issue".
If you're talking about the little cooling pump on the lower leftside (if sitting on top) I've had this issue with my Tuono 660 too. It always had a little drop on it's outlet and after getting warm it started slowly leaking out of the outlet and the sealing ring between the pump and block. Dealer changed the pump through warranty - and then the whole engine got changed after I bought one of those 700 bikes 2 years ago... =D Never had it leaking with the second engine yet. BUT: sometimes after a ride in really hot conditions especially on short travel it will spill a little bit out after turning off the engine, but thats normal I guess.
FYI: a short list which parts I also received through the warranty:
- completely new bike, since the first one arrived sideways in its box at the dealers place
- waterpump
- engine
(- theoretically right mirror, since the right one just spontaneously bonked me to show me my suprised face at around 230 :D But I just bought others after that incident...)
- frontbrake (= new discs + pads - I recognized that one brake disc got a bit lose on its floaters, but honestly don't ask me how or why :D new discs just doing perfectly fine)
- exhaust (yeah, seems if you hit average consumption above 5,1l/km and travel a lot ... with "higher speeds" you migth get the exhaust to it's end in under 20k km... :D)
- clutch sensor, after a weird non-reproducible error ("red R" in bottom right corner -> inverted shifting warning :D) which sometimes spontaneously just turned off Q(D)S for no reason after shifting
... My educated guess: Aprilia pretty much hates me as a customer at this point. ='D
I own a 2021 Aprilia Tuono V4 1100, and I have the motorcicle for about 8 months, the motorcicle was at the deler today, the whole day, because the sparks plugs seals need to be replace, the engine waas leaking oil, a lot of oil. Also the fuel sender was damage, gas light was blinking and the fuel gage not working. The mortorcycle is gorgeous, it have a lot of power, fast, etc. but if you look over the Internet you are going to find out this issues are pretty common.
Pretty disappointing 😞
pffft..I have read sooo many negative reviews about the Ap's. Glad I checked on them before I purchased the Z900. From below: "but as far as I can tell the only real issue was an engine light that was reset by the dealer on your first service - very common on brand new bikes. " Very Untrue. I have owned 3 brand-new bikes and I have never had an engine light come on.
I've owned 3 brand new bikes and never had the issue before either. some people just don't wanna hear the truth lol. I almost got a z900 over another mt09 such a nice bike good choice for sure.
I’m at 500miles and probably one of the best bikes I’ve ever owned in 12 years. Sorry things happened like this for you.
How has it been since then? Looking to pic one up
We own 5 Tuono's 1 from all 4 Generations 2x Gen2's. I'd ordered an RS660 when they where announced at ICMA but due to the 2+ year delay I got a KTM 790 Duke then a 890 Duke R - I felt the 660 would've been a step backwards so I got a '21 Tuono V4 1100 RR instead.
I wouldn’t say a step backwards per say, more of “I don’t need 150+ hp for the street” I have had 2 liter bikes and they are cool and all but I can’t use full throttle on the street… so I’m going for a Tuono 660 Factory and I’ve considered the 890 Duke R but ehhhh I bought 1 Ktm and I don’t ever want to buy another
@@NudaMan True, my riding group consists of my Brother on Speed Triple 1050RS & his Missus on S1000R they're both CSS level 4 & in Australia we have plenty of places where. you can ride them hard ;-) vids on my channel
The 2024 models are now perfect and all fixed up. Aprilia took every single complaint about the bikes and really fixed everything and the 660's now come with quick shifter from factory so go buy one
I was one of the first owners in the uk of a black RS 660. It was recalled for a full engine replacement. Due to a faulty cam shaft I think.
Was annoyed as it needed running in again. But other than that's its mint. It's my 4th bike so only done 2k miles on it, in a year. But its not had any other issues
Glad you’re enjoying it! It’s a great.just not for me
Wow, you're the only person that has said that the fueling is so bad that it's unridable at low speeds. Also considering an MT-09 but no one has one in stock. I did ride a friends Tracer 9 and it was OK, but kinda bland honestly. Hoping the MT is more exciting.
Honestly i didn't had any trouble for the month i had it on loaner... It was great and i did use it in belgium for a month. joy to ride everyday and the 270° shaft is sounding awesome. Its way smoother in low rpm compare to MT07 tbh... so... yeah. Don't know what trouble he had. Also... anti stall clutch make it easy. Going then on CB650R was meh... stall few time at red light ^^' then set my clutch XD
O my GOD you said exciting for the mt09?? Hahaha... Nice joke
@@thomaschas1403 Glad you enjoyed it.
Bro just say you want a different bike. Nothing wrong with the bike. Just not for you
I did say that but also the bike is known for having many many issues and a poor supply chain. Are you ok????
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Quite funny people here or should I say just a few complaining about parts and how long they take. You buy a bike built in Italy complaining of part delays when buying did you not consider that!! To many really experienced riders who have done reviews on this and the RS saying how good of a bike it is, I’m no fan of a twin I’m an in-line four man but I have to say it sounds amazing. I would have went with the RS over this as it gets everything like the quick shifter as standard but the tourno it’s an add on. I’ll say it again think about where the bikes from, research the hell out of it, test ride it…..did you even test ride it? I’m all about reviews but this is nothing but someone whining and moaning because it’s not quite for him….waste of media space.
One last thing whining and moaning about a bike from someone who doesn’t even wear the right protective gear and just a T Shirt!!! a jerky bike isn’t to do with the bike it means you are a poor rider it’s that simple. Saying you miss the MT09 straight away tells me you didn’t want this from the start. So many points that tells me you had no interest in the bike from the start. The quick shifter comment if you had research the bike you should have ordered it as an extra because it’s standard on the RS.
Its a shame you fell out with it so soon after buying. I have had the Tuono 660 factory for a couple of months, and done 2200 miles on it. Squeaky back brake is going away and so far had no real issues with it. The chain started making noise, shortly after a good clean and lube. The rollers sound like there is no grease inside anymore. I have been riding in 30 degree c here and there and maybe it has shed some, although the o rings are all looking good. Cleaned and re lubed today, so see how I get on. The quick shifter down has caused me a few issues from 3rd to 2nd, but could be my technique needs improving, albeit ive made sure the throttle was shut before shifting. All in all I love the bike, but ive only ever had Aprilia’s so Ive not got anything to compare too. Hope your new ride is more suited than the 660.
With the Quickshifter your supposed to go thru the gears with the throttle open (no clutch needed) you are riding the bike wrong lol
@@NudaMan agree the throttle can be full open changing up, but has to be shut changing down. If the throttle is not fully shut changing down it does not want to shift. As you know you would not want the throttle open changing down anyway. The blipper does its job ok when the throttle is shut.
So because you have one bike with problems all the Aprilia’s are bad…. Makes sense. Love my RS 660….
Sucks but I’d still keep it. Also, after 2 minutes on one I recall thinking it was actually quite the opposite in my opinion at slow sub 15 mph speeds. 🤔
I had the Tuono 660 and sold it after 6 months, oil leak.... In the dealer for 4 weeks, got the bike back..... And two weeks later I got a coolant leak...... Back in the dealer for another 4 weeks waiting for a part from Italy...and still no sign of part, on top of that I waited 6 months for the imu upgrade 🙄🙄🙄 beautiful looking bike and fantastic to ride.... But too unrealible 👍
Thanks for the review made me want to buy one, keep up the tangents in your conversation really adds depth to the review.
I have the RS 660. Dude it sounds like your dealer was giving you shit support and trying to cheap out. Right from the moment you mentioned that they wanted you to keep riding on a check engine light. I've ridden tons of motorcycles, sport bikes in particular. This bike is not jerky in comparison to other bikes. You wanna see jerky??? Go ride a ninja 650. I'm sorry your experience was not great. But it really sounds like your deal support was absolute trash.
Those issues are bad. As long as the dealer has fixed them.
I cannot agree with you in terms of how the bike is unusable down low. It’s a parallel twin. It’s got character but it’s not known to be particularly lumpy. No one has reported these issues on all the reviews.
You are probably best suited to a smoother engine like inline 3’s and 4’s.
Did you even test ride it before you bought it?
HAHAHAHA that’s a joke right?? There’s no such thing as test riding /demo bikes where I live never heard of it ever.. demo days maybe once a year for certain brands. Either way bike is trash
I crossed it off my list when u said Herky Jerky at low speeds. I had a cf moto 800 that was extremely jerky. Couldn’t habdke it. Sold it.
I've always wanted to buy the Aprilia Tuono 660 but I stayed with my FZ-07. I don't blame you for staying with Japanese bikes. Unless you have the money and patience or get lucky, reliability will always be an issue with European bikes including BMW. Parts are more expensive and service is more expensive as many mechanics won't touch a European bike.
Very fair points!
So really, there isn’t a viable reason to not buy an RS660b?
The reliability can really hamper the rest of the bikes performance.
Comparing apple to oranges, 900 against a 660 , 120cv against 95.. brand new with issue to fix against old bike..