Thank you so much for this video! When I saw your short video with your coal fire a few days ago, it got me excited to try burning with coal in my Fire Chief. I was able to find 40 lb. bags of anthracite coal at my local Tractor Supply for 2 for $12. I had my furnace going well with the coal, but I believe I either didn't load it enough or allow enough air in because my fire ended up going out. I am looking forward to trying some of your tips, it is exactly what I needed. Thanks again!
There's something very comforting about watching you go down those basement stairs. It brings back good memories of heading down to the basement to my coal burning stove on really cold nights in Central Pa in our old old home along the railroad. The coal always smelled good to me. We had a wood burning stove, but when we had what we called "two chimney nights" I'd fire up the coal burning stove in the basement to keep the pipes and the baby from freezing.
Been using coal here in P.A. for a long time. Lehigh and Blaschak are about the best coal you can get. I use a coal stove that uses nut coal. Twelve hours is a good burn time. It will go longer but doesn't put off much heat. I burn wood when it's not to cold out because the coal makes the house to warm. Do it in layers like in the video, shake it down when you add coal and it will burn better and burn through the coals better. When you do that you should only have ash left if it's good coal. I try to tend it every eight to ten hours that way it burns clean and steady. If I load it up around ten at night it's good till mid morning, but if I shake it down around six it does much better. Great video !!!
Thanks CJ sure glad to hear you're keeping those girls all toasty warm. It's coming right along around there. Keep up the good work and stay safe. Fred.
What ever works for you is the right way . I’ve been heating with anthracite for about 12 years. Lehighhas the best anthracite in my opinion. Glad you got it figured out . 💪👍🏻
Easiest way I have found to start my coal stove is ty put a pile of match light charcoal in the center and lay a bed of hard coal around it then light the match light. Half hour later I have a good coal fire going.
Thank you very much for the video! My hubs left me in charge of the fire/coal (I'm used to wood or fuel blocks) and I wasn't doing the best, your video helped me so much!! Thanks!!
I burn house coal at 88 a ton but it's a solid mix of Anthracite, and Bit coal to avoid issues with creosote I just shovel some rock salt onto my coals every so often, and of course toss the money at those fancy creosote logs. Never had an issue with the chimney flue comes clean every time.
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse Not sure where you're at, but I'm guessing since we seem to share an accent it's PA adjacent. It seems to be the common yard price, and I'd suggest grabbing a half ton yourself if nothing else it would make for a good starter bed for your more expensive Anthracite. Speed burn the cheap stuff so you can slow burn the good stuff.
That furnace is huge compared to my little parlor stove but I can use the nut size anthracite coal and turn up the draft so as to maintain about 400 - 600 degrees "Far" temperature and then when the fire is hot enough turn the draft way down especially if there is high wind. thanks for the information and keep warm.
Yeah there's no doubt my stove uses up the coal lol. But I do get pretty decent burn times out of it and it will warm the house up to whatever temperature we want. Thanks for watching Elena!
i miss a coal or wood burning home and lifestyle.. yep. cold snowy PA/OH winters were tough and at times magical. Strong folk for sure. Shenango, Pymatuning waterways. Some Lake Erie whiteouts. Our tribe migrated west, many of us buried ashes westward. Sir, you gave some good life enhancing tips. Thanks muchly!
Great video CJ. Glad you found a supply of coal. $7 a bag here. Folks on the coal pail forum generally seem to stay away from the TSC unless it is the only option.
You may want to checkout some other videos on burning hard coal. Most service the stove only twice per day. empty the ash bin, floss the grates, shake it down, re-fill to the max. Leave the flue and lower air flow open full for 5 or 10 minutes then adjust to minimum on both air in and flue and walk away.
My dad developed a case of bursitis scrubbing the rust & tarnish off an antique coal stove for a weekend cabin in Ontario County, NY. The stove had nickel plated bumpers to keep you away from the hot stove. There were mica windows on the front & side which were attractive and radiated heat, It took a while to get the coal fire started, but it is hellaciously hot, once it gets going.
20g bag of coal is cheaper here I'll think it's under 20€ a lot off people use gas home heating which is expensive also or oil home heating what ever we use here is expensive or you could look into renewable home heating
I've been trying to get anthracite to burn inside of a Fisher Baby Bear I have, but it'll need some kind of grate that sits above the draft cap. Wyoming brown sub-bit will burn in it easily, never had access to regular bituminous. We have trees here in SW Idaho, mountain mahogany, which have over twice the density of oak, it sinks in water, kills saw chains, and will burn for 24 hours in an airtight. If you can find it, it's the best fuel ever.
Hey CJ, great find on the Coal. If you end up buying some of the Bio Blocks I told you about, maybe you could do a video for everyone on those too 👍 God Bless.
Yes I am very happy to have a place to get coal. I looked at the website of those bio blocks. Not any dealers real close to me but might have to try them out sometime
Thanks very good , I know nothing about coal I am in uk we have to use smokeless anthracite I’ve just stop gas because of the cost, thanks again for information I left all ash in when I started with coal I didn’t know.
20kg bag of 'decent ' smokeless coal here in UK £20.00 a bag! I place the coal pieces on the fire like i am placing cherries on a cake🤣. So expensive but i absolutely love my open fire. Thanks for sharing your experiences CJ.... Love to you and all your little ladies🥳💞.
If you'd like an easy way to light coal if you are starting from scratch grab a bag of matchlight charcoal put a layer on the bottom covering the entire grate light it and put a single light layer of coal on top of it and let it burn untouched for about 15 20 min come back and add another layer give it 10 min add another layer and your up and running
Thanks for that Video, unfortunately coal in the UK is now over £600 per tonne. I think we need to move over to your country where at least you do not get ripped off! Have a warm winter. Cheers
I can't remember what I talked about in this video to he honest lol. But when I burn coal I give it maybe 3 or 4 good shakes. The air damper knobs on the front I leave shut. The fan on the back I open all the way up and let the thermostat control it
I’m wondering how much the Anthracite is today where your at? I saw a 40 lb bag today which is almost a year after you posted this video and it was $30 a bag…. insane prices now days. Thx for the video, really informative, hope your able to stay warm this winter. God bless.
We have the same stove, but having a horrible time burning coal. I talked to the manufacturer this morning. You have to remove the grate for burning wood. Otherwise, there is not enough air flow to keep the coal burning.
This is interesting. I left my plate on top of the grate in there and have been able to burn coal, but now I'll have to try it without the plate. Thanks Becca!
Remove plate to burn antracite nut coal, 3 easy steps in the morning, fill firebox with coal, shake it down till u see the sun in ash pan, top off with more coal ur good for at least 10 hours
Wow, glad to see so you finally made the switch. You will be much happier with less tending and consistent heat. You can also start your stove with match light and add coal is short layers building up the bed.
Open bottom door and flue damper when building a fire, get it rolling hot with wood, then throw coal in let bottom door and damper open it will take off real quick. When it gets rolling good close bottom door and damper. Put more coal on. I use different coal and shovel. My soft coal is 115 bucks a ton.. not real dirty either I buy washed nut stoker coal. I'm in Pennsylvania though.. my house runs 80 degrees all winter even when it is below zero, my house is old not insolated real good..
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse lmao yeah, its an awesome heat source. My wife likes it 80s I hate the heat I have a fan on all the time lol. I'm not big on summer time either I like winter time..
Just watched your video and will give it a try today, I have a multi fuel stove in which I burn both coal and wood , usually together. So I presume I start the fire with wood and then start adding coal ? It’s smoky coal , down to the last few bags , after that it will be smokeless as the other is now banned here in Ireland.
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse I'm doing something wrong. 3rd time I've tried. Wood fire till box is 550 with good bed of embers. Then single layer of miners choice nut coal from lowes. Poke holes for air. When glowing red. Another thin layer. Repeat 4 or 5 times. By then box is getting below 400 so remaining room out a few logs on. Then manually set damper so fire won't exceed 600 and go to work. Every time the box is below 200 about 4 or 5 hrs later. When I get home 13 hrs after leaving the wood is all ash but tribe coal has gone out and physically majority of it is still there.. Can you reuse coal that went out or is it really difficult to "catch"?
I haven't had luck getting burnt coal to catch again.. have you tried a different brand of coal? I had the same trouble with tractor supply coal so I switched to Lehigh and it burns much better
How often do you shake and do you poke around the coals? I was told to shake every 12 hours and poke around the outside, not the middle, twice a day. The few times I've burned coal, I've suffocated my fire out in about 3-4 days. What do you do? If this February ever gets cold again, I want to burn some more coal. I'd like to buy some more this summer if the price ever comes down again!!!
I usually shake it good before I add more coal. My goal is to keep the coal just above the ledge. You're doing right poking around the outside. I'm done burning coal when a 40lbs bag is over $11
I'm new at this..am an aid to burn wood in a woman's home. It's in the basement. No floor grates. I close that room up till it's 80. Open up the doors and fill the rest of the basement space to 80. Then I open the bulkhead on one end and then the door to upstairs opposite,, heat rushes up, heats upstairs to about 70. Then I just top off a few times till 11pm. If I don't let it go out, it maintains after I shut the bulkhead door constantly. I only have to do the hot burn when I let it go down to clean out ash. Which I do about every day and a half. When the bin is half full. I can go longer, but don't usually. Been 3 yrs and I'm good at it, but don't know all the science of it yet. Lol But friends that taught me, are proud of me for keeping this lady in her home when her vision went and she couldn't see smoke..so of course , THEY wanted to take her out of her home and take it.. but NOPE!!! in walks me.. n never left.
. Oh. I've also gotten small fans now that draw heat upstairs. Hooked to ceiling and corners of doorways. Run on batteries , and work as God as opening bulkhead. I still do that also, because sometimes, 80 is just too much. Plus I like AIR..
Wow c o a l looks like something you would use for blacksmithing. We used to go down and get a ton of it in the back of the pickup truck and it would be in big chunks. That's what you need if you're going to get a 24-hour burn out of it big chunks. We used to pay $22 a ton that's been a while ago no wonder you suffocated your fire with those little pieces my I sure have a lot of videos to watch now
Yeah I like burning this anthracite coal because it doesn't make creosote.. it's a shame it doesn't come in bigger chunks so that a certain woman I live with wouldn't suffocate my fire lol
Yeah that would probably work.. but I'll be honest, I'd just as soon have a wood fire. The whole point of my stove is to save money on heating costs plus a wood fire is simpler to get going
Great video bud. You guys are lucky with being able to burn coal and sooooo cheap, Here in Australia we cant even burn matches, and coal doesnt even exist.
This is an interesting video , i dont think i will ever burn coal on my purevision stove ( it does support smokeless formed coal things). I did however make a wood fire so hot a few days ago that i could not stand on the floor next to the hearth as it was too hot , i think i overdid it . But i had a good few inches of wood coals. I set my stove to coal setting and i was nice and warm for a few hours with no extra wood !
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse wood I agree is nice , even more so when you get a nice bit of oak to throw on the fire , so dense is burns a bit like coal . I always keep a few oak logs around . A Yew that is at least 200 fell in a recent storm by where I live , I wish I had got some of that, it's very sad. UT I would love to see how yew burns on a stove
Good video! One item I was looking for is how do you set the draft on your stove. I know coal needs more air than wood. Should I run the draft all the way open for coal?
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse Our stove doesn't have a thermostat blower just a bottom ash door with a draft wheel to let air flow in. Having trouble keeping the fire going all night.
When you get your coal fire going good have you tried opening that draft wheel to where you see the flames moving off the coals? If you see them moving then I'd leave it there, dump some more coal on it, and it SHOULD still be going in the morning for you
Wow...I cant believe the cheapness of anthracite over there in the U.S.A. I assume the prices have since risen since this video? In the UK the prices have risen to at least £599 per ton. Even worse is Columbian house coal for open fires...£720 per ton!!!!
Being I live in the heart of Anthracite country it's makes way much sense. Just a heads up. There are 2 types of Anthracite coal, red ash and white ash. Red ash does not burn as long when your pushing high heat. White ash will burn the hottest for longest at that hottest temps. How to know the diff. When looking at the ash, if it has a tint of red ( a slight look of rust red) it's red ash. Places try to mix it here and I usually call them on it. It's 16 degrees here this morn stove is running bout 700 on top surface with a 6 gal stainless steel pan of water on top running day in and day out for a 14 hr burn on 40 lbs...beat that with wood, I don't think so... You can burn wood in a coal stove but, you can't burn coal in a wood stove...the diff is the grate systems needed. rock on...
Hello brother, thank you for the video, I burn coal and wood myself too, do you shake down your coal? Air flow is EVERYTHING with coal. Hope you are well.
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse Awesome! thank you for the quick reply too, I love burning wood too, I've been burning wood for over 5 years and a lot of times we put a full size round with some splits in at night to get longer burn times so that we can sleep a little bit more but coal has a more consistent heat without the "peaks and plummets" of burning wood, the up and down up and down, I just love the consistency of coal when it gets to be under 30° here in southern Northeast USA, we start the wood stove on our first floor and it works nice because our house isn't insulated either.
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse Also, burning wood costs money too, it costs your time, gas and oil, cutting, splitting, stacking, it just gets to be a lot too, even if you get the wood for free it's still not free, it does take a lot of your time.
I just installed a kozy king 400 in the shop a cpl days ago, replaced a 32 yr old King. I quickly came to the same conclusions as you learning the coal been a wood burner till now. What temperatures are you seeing on the front of stove? How open are you running the draft fan? Feel like i need much more than DS's recommends. Thanks.
Hey Thomas! My temperature on the front when I have a good coal bed is usually around 400.. I've been running the draft blower open about 3/4 in this cold. Also I have been running coal without taking the metal plate out that holds the ash in. I'm going to take it out next time I burn coal to see if that makes my fires even more efficient
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse just wanted to update incase it helps anyone. After 3 days My stove was full of softball/ baseball size clinkers using TSC coal and wasn't putting out the heat I expected either. After some calling around several people confirmed that tsc coal is poor quality. I hunted down some Blaschak brand on recommendations and it's night and day better, air temps out the duct are 50° higher and far longer burn time less ash no clinkers. Easier starting. If anyone having issues w coal confirm the coal quality before getting discouraged.
100 lbs in a pot belly stove? I didn't know they made them that big. 3 days of burning 100lbs, will make lots of ash. If you have a stove that'll hold that much, you'll have ta shake it down a few times a day, I'm guessing.
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Thank you so much for this video! When I saw your short video with your coal fire a few days ago, it got me excited to try burning with coal in my Fire Chief. I was able to find 40 lb. bags of anthracite coal at my local Tractor Supply for 2 for $12. I had my furnace going well with the coal, but I believe I either didn't load it enough or allow enough air in because my fire ended up going out. I am looking forward to trying some of your tips, it is exactly what I needed. Thanks again!
You are most welcome Timothy! Hope these tips help you out!
How long does a 40 pound bag last you?@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse
Not long at all
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse 24 hours? 36 hours? 48 hours? I'm curious about the comparison to wood.
@BlahBlah122-b2t I don't even try to burn coal anymore.. it takes a 40lbs bag just to get my stove started
There's something very comforting about watching you go down those basement stairs. It brings back good memories of heading down to the basement to my coal burning stove on really cold nights in Central Pa in our old old home along the railroad. The coal always smelled good to me. We had a wood burning stove, but when we had what we called "two chimney nights" I'd fire up the coal burning stove in the basement to keep the pipes and the baby from freezing.
Thank you! I love hearing about your memory as well!
Lehigh is good Coal. DS makes a great stove. Good combo. Stay Warm!
Glad I have both for a night like tonight! Lol 👍🔥
Been using coal here in P.A. for a long time. Lehigh and Blaschak are about the best coal you can get. I use a coal stove that uses nut coal. Twelve hours is a good burn time. It will go longer but doesn't put off much heat. I burn wood when it's not to cold out because the coal makes the house to warm. Do it in layers like in the video, shake it down when you add coal and it will burn better and burn through the coals better. When you do that you should only have ash left if it's good coal. I try to tend it every eight to ten hours that way it burns clean and steady. If I load it up around ten at night it's good till mid morning, but if I shake it down around six it does much better. Great video !!!
Good tips from you as well my friend! 👍
Thanks CJ sure glad to hear you're keeping those girls all toasty warm. It's coming right along around there. Keep up the good work and stay safe. Fred.
Yeah it's going to be a cold one tonight... 8 degrees here . Have a good one Fred
What ever works for you is the right way . I’ve been heating with anthracite for about 12 years. Lehighhas the best anthracite in my opinion. Glad you got it figured out . 💪👍🏻
Yeah we are really enjoying this Lehigh coal Dave!
Easiest way I have found to start my coal stove is ty put a pile of match light charcoal in the center and lay a bed of hard coal around it then light the match light. Half hour later I have a good coal fire going.
Thank you very much for the video! My hubs left me in charge of the fire/coal (I'm used to wood or fuel blocks) and I wasn't doing the best, your video helped me so much!! Thanks!!
You are very welcome Leah! Now if I can just get my wife to watch it hahaha
Good jop on your video i have a outdoor wood are house is 75 now night it say at 74 night we have snow too love your video buddy
That's good Travis! Stay warm
excellent info CJ
Thanks buddy! Hope it helps somebody out
Excellent video CJ. Glad that is working out for you to keep the house and family warm. Thanks for sharing, stay safe. Ken
Thanks Ken! I know how it feels when you're having trouble getting the coal going so hopefully this helps someone
Man that’s awesome!! Nothing better than a cozy house on a cold day buddy. Great video, take care buddy!
I love the long burn times I'm getting with coal too!
I burn house coal at 88 a ton but it's a solid mix of Anthracite, and Bit coal to avoid issues with creosote I just shovel some rock salt onto my coals every so often, and of course toss the money at those fancy creosote logs. Never had an issue with the chimney flue comes clean every time.
That's worth it for that price 👍🔥
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse Not sure where you're at, but I'm guessing since we seem to share an accent it's PA adjacent. It seems to be the common yard price, and I'd suggest grabbing a half ton yourself if nothing else it would make for a good starter bed for your more expensive Anthracite. Speed burn the cheap stuff so you can slow burn the good stuff.
That furnace is huge compared to my little parlor stove but I can use the nut size anthracite coal and turn up the draft so as to maintain about 400 - 600 degrees "Far" temperature and then when the fire is hot enough turn the draft way down especially if there is high wind. thanks for the information and keep warm.
Yeah there's no doubt my stove uses up the coal lol. But I do get pretty decent burn times out of it and it will warm the house up to whatever temperature we want. Thanks for watching Elena!
i miss a coal or wood burning home and lifestyle.. yep. cold snowy PA/OH winters were tough and at times magical. Strong folk for sure. Shenango, Pymatuning waterways. Some Lake Erie whiteouts. Our tribe migrated west, many of us buried ashes westward. Sir, you gave some good life enhancing tips. Thanks muchly!
Hey thanks Barb! Pymatuning is one of our favorite places to go camping 🏕
Great video CJ. Glad you found a supply of coal. $7 a bag here. Folks on the coal pail forum generally seem to stay away from the TSC unless it is the only option.
Thanks Pete! Sounds like I got a good deal on mine then
Up to $10 a bag this year CJ. Even at TSC.
I haven't checked yet at my co-op
Boy, that's pretty efficient. Finally got some winter here,24 one night,think we've had 3 freezes. Today will be in the 30s. 70 over the weekend.
Yeah we've been pretty lucky so far this winter too John..but it's nice to know I can keep us warm when that nasty cold hits
You may want to checkout some other videos on burning hard coal. Most service the stove only twice per day. empty the ash bin, floss the grates, shake it down, re-fill to the max. Leave the flue and lower air flow open full for 5 or 10 minutes then adjust to minimum on both air in and flue and walk away.
Thanks for sharing your experience 👍😎
No problem! Hope it helps 👍
My dad developed a case of bursitis scrubbing the rust & tarnish off an antique coal stove for a weekend cabin in Ontario County, NY. The stove had nickel plated bumpers to keep you away from the hot stove. There were mica windows on the front & side which were attractive and radiated heat, It took a while to get the coal fire started, but it is hellaciously hot, once it gets going.
I've hauled coal out of that mine all the way down to pueblo Colorado. I guess it's some really good stuff. They use it at a steel mill.
Didn't know that! Pretty neat.. I can definitely say it's way better than tractor supply coal
For a 40 bag of smokeless coal in Ireland is 30€ thanks for sharing your video hope you stay warm and dry
Wow that is expensive! I think it's their way of stopping us from using coal for heat
20g bag of coal is cheaper here I'll think it's under 20€ a lot off people use gas home heating which is expensive also or oil home heating what ever we use here is expensive or you could look into renewable home heating
Thanks for sharing this information
No problem Barbara! Hope it helps someone 👍🔥
Most interesting. Thank you.
I hope it helps people who are frustrated like I was with coal. It is a wonderful heat source when done right
I've been trying to get anthracite to burn inside of a Fisher Baby Bear I have, but it'll need some kind of grate that sits above the draft cap. Wyoming brown sub-bit will burn in it easily, never had access to regular bituminous. We have trees here in SW Idaho, mountain mahogany, which have over twice the density of oak, it sinks in water, kills saw chains, and will burn for 24 hours in an airtight. If you can find it, it's the best fuel ever.
This video was very helpful! Thanks
Good! Makes me happy when it helps someone 👍🔥
We could of used that fire in this house this morning. We got the snow also n with the wind it felt like 2....stay warm ⛄☃️
That wind is brutal lol.. stay warm Sue!
Hey CJ, great find on the Coal. If you end up buying some of the Bio Blocks I told you about, maybe you could do a video for everyone on those too 👍
God Bless.
Yes I am very happy to have a place to get coal. I looked at the website of those bio blocks. Not any dealers real close to me but might have to try them out sometime
Thanks very good , I know nothing about coal I am in uk we have to use smokeless anthracite I’ve just stop gas because of the cost, thanks again for information I left all ash in when I started with coal I didn’t know.
I hope it helps you buddy! I know I'd much rather just burn wood since it's way easier lol
Nice video. Thanks man!🙂 Greetings from Holland. ( we need Coal this winter😉)
Hey thanks! That's neat you're from Holland!
20kg bag of 'decent ' smokeless coal here in UK £20.00 a bag! I place the coal pieces on the fire like i am placing cherries on a cake🤣. So expensive but i absolutely love my open fire. Thanks for sharing your experiences CJ.... Love to you and all your little ladies🥳💞.
Boy I better not complain about our coal prices then lol. That's a shame it costs you that much. Stay warm Moira!
So about a 1£ per Kilo eh? damn
Anthracite in north east England is £13 for 25kg
Great video! Thank you for sharing!
You're welcome! 👍🔥
I have a U.S.Stove 30 A.
Wood,soft coal,Hard coal.
I burn it all.
Least amount of work is the hard coal.Burn,shake,add,repeat.
Davidsville PA.15928
Thank you, I love your video.
Hey thank you very much !
If you'd like an easy way to light coal if you are starting from scratch grab a bag of matchlight charcoal put a layer on the bottom covering the entire grate light it and put a single light layer of coal on top of it and let it burn untouched for about 15 20 min come back and add another layer give it 10 min add another layer and your up and running
Thanks for the tip Glide! 👍
Thanks for that Video, unfortunately coal in the UK is now over £600 per tonne. I think we need to move over to your country where at least you do not get ripped off! Have a warm winter. Cheers
Wow that's horrible! Probably only a matter of time until they price gouge us over here too
Great video ! Tell me, can you also burn wood in this furnace ?
Yes you can. Wood is my preferred heat source but I like having the coal option just in case 👍🔥
No problem!
Did u miss the details when do you shake down the coal box and what do you set the dampener on I’m not sure I’m asking
I can't remember what I talked about in this video to he honest lol. But when I burn coal I give it maybe 3 or 4 good shakes. The air damper knobs on the front I leave shut. The fan on the back I open all the way up and let the thermostat control it
That is the key to burning coal.
Get it hot first.
Don't over stoke it.
A little good coal is all ya need folks.
I’m wondering how much the Anthracite is today where your at? I saw a 40 lb bag today which is almost a year after you posted this video and it was $30 a bag…. insane prices now days. Thx for the video, really informative, hope your able to stay warm this winter. God bless.
I will get back to you on this.. I still haven't bought any this year
I found a Lowe's in central pa selling nut n rice coal for 9.98 a bag. I hear 10 a bag is average which has about doubled from a yr ago
Ive never found it at Lowe's good to know Nick 👍
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse 1 lowes out of 5 in my area has miners choice nut coal. They all seem to have the price coal though.
Good hunting!
Thanks. I appreciate it. I'm up here in Vermillion oh. I was looking to buy hitzer coal stove. Anyone have any advices
We have the same stove, but having a horrible time burning coal. I talked to the manufacturer this morning. You have to remove the grate for burning wood. Otherwise, there is not enough air flow to keep the coal burning.
This is interesting. I left my plate on top of the grate in there and have been able to burn coal, but now I'll have to try it without the plate. Thanks Becca!
Remove plate to burn antracite nut coal, 3 easy steps in the morning, fill firebox with coal, shake it down till u see the sun in ash pan, top off with more coal ur good for at least 10 hours
Thanks Dog!
@@dogshaff9307 what do you mean by see the Sun in ashpan?
I learned that I smothered my coals and that's why it went out
Interesting! Never heard that before 👍
Wow, glad to see so you finally made the switch. You will be much happier with less tending and consistent heat.
You can also start your stove with match light and add coal is short layers building up the bed.
Yeah it's a nice back up option for sure
Open bottom door and flue damper when building a fire, get it rolling hot with wood, then throw coal in let bottom door and damper open it will take off real quick. When it gets rolling good close bottom door and damper. Put more coal on. I use different coal and shovel. My soft coal is 115 bucks a ton.. not real dirty either I buy washed nut stoker coal. I'm in Pennsylvania though.. my house runs 80 degrees all winter even when it is below zero, my house is old not insolated real good..
Wow 80 degrees! I had mine up to 77 last night with a coal fire and I was so hot lol
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse lmao yeah, its an awesome heat source. My wife likes it 80s I hate the heat I have a fan on all the time lol. I'm not big on summer time either I like winter time..
Lol I understand.. my 4 women like it hot too haha
Do you use a forced draft blower or do you have an extra tall chimney to provide enough draft for the coal to burn cleanly?
My stove came with a draft blower fan on the back
Is seems so much easier than wood. I’m constantly loading firewood, dragging it into the house.
It seems that way until I leave the house and my wife is in charge of it.. she has it completely out everytime lol
Just watched your video and will give it a try today, I have a multi fuel stove in which I burn both coal and wood , usually together. So I presume I start the fire with wood and then start adding coal ? It’s smoky coal , down to the last few bags , after that it will be smokeless as the other is now banned here in Ireland.
Yes I start a hot wood fire first. I imagine they will ban all coal one day
I see many saying they burn both together but other comments say to never do this. What gives
I don't burn both together..I'll use a wood fire to get the coal going but I won't burn wood again until the coal is either gone or out
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse I'm doing something wrong. 3rd time I've tried.
Wood fire till box is 550 with good bed of embers. Then single layer of miners choice nut coal from lowes. Poke holes for air. When glowing red. Another thin layer. Repeat 4 or 5 times. By then box is getting below 400 so remaining room out a few logs on. Then manually set damper so fire won't exceed 600 and go to work.
Every time the box is below 200 about 4 or 5 hrs later. When I get home 13 hrs after leaving the wood is all ash but tribe coal has gone out and physically majority of it is still there..
Can you reuse coal that went out or is it really difficult to "catch"?
I haven't had luck getting burnt coal to catch again.. have you tried a different brand of coal? I had the same trouble with tractor supply coal so I switched to Lehigh and it burns much better
I heard tractor supply coal isn’t too good I was told to stick with Lehigh and blaschack are the best to burn low ash content
Couldn't agree more James! 💪🔥
How often do you shake and do you poke around the coals? I was told to shake every 12 hours and poke around the outside, not the middle, twice a day. The few times I've burned coal, I've suffocated my fire out in about 3-4 days. What do you do? If this February ever gets cold again, I want to burn some more coal. I'd like to buy some more this summer if the price ever comes down again!!!
I usually shake it good before I add more coal. My goal is to keep the coal just above the ledge. You're doing right poking around the outside. I'm done burning coal when a 40lbs bag is over $11
I’d like to see how your coal furnace is ducted, how you move heat throughout the house.
I think I show it in my other videos of the stove
I'm new at this..am an aid to burn wood in a woman's home.
It's in the basement. No floor grates.
I close that room up till it's 80.
Open up the doors and fill the rest of the basement space to 80. Then I open the bulkhead on one end and then the door to upstairs opposite,, heat rushes up, heats upstairs to about 70.
Then I just top off a few times till 11pm. If I don't let it go out, it maintains after I shut the bulkhead door constantly. I only have to do the hot burn when I let it go down to clean out ash. Which I do about every day and a half. When the bin is half full.
I can go longer, but don't usually.
Been 3 yrs and I'm good at it, but don't know all the science of it yet. Lol
But friends that taught me, are proud of me for keeping this lady in her home when her vision went and she couldn't see smoke..so of course , THEY wanted to take her out of her home and take it.. but NOPE!!! in walks me.. n never left.
. Oh. I've also gotten small fans now that draw heat upstairs. Hooked to ceiling and corners of doorways. Run on batteries , and work as God as opening bulkhead. I still do that also, because sometimes, 80 is just too much. Plus I like AIR..
Sounds like you have got it all figured out! 👍
Nice vest
Thanks lol 😆
There are automatic hoppers that drop a set amount of coal into the burner every X number of hours
Thanks Oprah.. I should've known you'd know all about this 😄
Wow c o a l looks like something you would use for blacksmithing. We used to go down and get a ton of it in the back of the pickup truck and it would be in big chunks. That's what you need if you're going to get a 24-hour burn out of it big chunks. We used to pay $22 a ton that's been a while ago no wonder you suffocated your fire with those little pieces my I sure have a lot of videos to watch now
Yeah I like burning this anthracite coal because it doesn't make creosote.. it's a shame it doesn't come in bigger chunks so that a certain woman I live with wouldn't suffocate my fire lol
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse IF TOU JUST MIX A LITTLE OF THAT IN IT WOULD KEEP THE FIRE HOT ENOUGH THERE WOULD be no build up
Yeah that would probably work.. but I'll be honest, I'd just as soon have a wood fire. The whole point of my stove is to save money on heating costs plus a wood fire is simpler to get going
Great video bud. You guys are lucky with being able to burn coal and sooooo cheap, Here in Australia we cant even burn matches, and coal doesnt even exist.
Thanks James! We are really lucky.. I'm afraid one day they will try the same thing here
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse hopefully you have better heads running the show than we have.
I doubt it lol
Australia has become a dystopia
That's a shame
This is an interesting video , i dont think i will ever burn coal on my purevision stove ( it does support smokeless formed coal things).
I did however make a wood fire so hot a few days ago that i could not stand on the floor next to the hearth as it was too hot , i think i overdid it . But i had a good few inches of wood coals. I set my stove to coal setting and i was nice and warm for a few hours with no extra wood !
Coal is nice once you get it going because it burns for a while.. but to be honest I'd just rather have a wood fire
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse wood I agree is nice , even more so when you get a nice bit of oak to throw on the fire , so dense is burns a bit like coal . I always keep a few oak logs around . A Yew that is at least 200 fell in a recent storm by where I live , I wish I had got some of that, it's very sad. UT I would love to see how yew burns on a stove
I don't have any oaks so locust is my go to hot long burning wood
Good video! One item I was looking for is how do you set the draft on your stove. I know coal needs more air than wood. Should I run the draft all the way open for coal?
Yes leave the draft blower plate open so you can get a big blast of air when your thermostat calls for it 👍🔥
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse Our stove doesn't have a thermostat blower just a bottom ash door with a draft wheel to let air flow in. Having trouble keeping the fire going all night.
When you get your coal fire going good have you tried opening that draft wheel to where you see the flames moving off the coals? If you see them moving then I'd leave it there, dump some more coal on it, and it SHOULD still be going in the morning for you
They make hopper fed coal stoker stoves that you don’t have to fill twice a day
Yeah I know they made some like that.. we just bought this stove a few years ago and the coal is more of a backup anyway. We mainly heat with wood 👍
Wow...I cant believe the cheapness of anthracite over there in the U.S.A. I assume the prices have since risen since this video? In the UK the prices have risen to at least £599 per ton. Even worse is Columbian house coal for open fires...£720 per ton!!!!
Wow! I hear it's up to $9 bucks a bag but I haven't confirmed that yet
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse That equates to about £320 per ton....half what we pay in the UK. I hope it stays that way for you brother
Thanks man I do too! Nice to have that for backup 👍
find a bulk source. i pay $110/ton for bituminous, which i actually like better than hard coal. smokey but hot AF.
Do you get any creosote buildup?
no. i use the powder flue cleaner stuff every once in a while and my flue runs hot when i burn wood.
Being I live in the heart of Anthracite country it's makes way much sense. Just a heads up. There are 2 types of Anthracite coal, red ash and white ash. Red ash does not burn as long when your pushing high heat. White ash will burn the hottest for longest at that hottest temps. How to know the diff. When looking at the ash, if it has a tint of red ( a slight look of rust red) it's red ash. Places try to mix it here and I usually call them on it.
It's 16 degrees here this morn stove is running bout 700 on top surface with a 6 gal stainless steel pan of water on top running day in and day out for a 14 hr burn on 40 lbs...beat that with wood, I don't think so...
You can burn wood in a coal stove but, you can't burn coal in a wood stove...the diff is the grate systems needed. rock on...
can you explain more about burning coal in a wood stove?
Hello brother, thank you for the video, I burn coal and wood myself too, do you shake down your coal? Air flow is EVERYTHING with coal. Hope you are well.
Hey Tim! Yep I sure do shake the coal.. I like coal for the long burn times but to be honest I'd rather just burn wood. Simpler lol
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse Awesome! thank you for the quick reply too, I love burning wood too, I've been burning wood for over 5 years and a lot of times we put a full size round with some splits in at night to get longer burn times so that we can sleep a little bit more but coal has a more consistent heat without the "peaks and plummets" of burning wood, the up and down up and down, I just love the consistency of coal when it gets to be under 30° here in southern Northeast USA, we start the wood stove on our first floor and it works nice because our house isn't insulated either.
Yep I know exactly what you mean buddy. The consistent heat of coal is another benefit for sure!
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse Also, burning wood costs money too, it costs your time, gas and oil, cutting, splitting, stacking, it just gets to be a lot too, even if you get the wood for free it's still not free, it does take a lot of your time.
Time is my most valuable thing anymore
I just installed a kozy king 400 in the shop a cpl days ago, replaced a 32 yr old King. I quickly came to the same conclusions as you learning the coal been a wood burner till now. What temperatures are you seeing on the front of stove? How open are you running the draft fan? Feel like i need much more than DS's recommends. Thanks.
Hey Thomas! My temperature on the front when I have a good coal bed is usually around 400.. I've been running the draft blower open about 3/4 in this cold. Also I have been running coal without taking the metal plate out that holds the ash in. I'm going to take it out next time I burn coal to see if that makes my fires even more efficient
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse just wanted to update incase it helps anyone. After 3 days My stove was full of softball/ baseball size clinkers using TSC coal and wasn't putting out the heat I expected either. After some calling around several people confirmed that tsc coal is poor quality. I hunted down some Blaschak brand on recommendations and it's night and day better, air temps out the duct are 50° higher and far longer burn time less ash no clinkers. Easier starting. If anyone having issues w coal confirm the coal quality before getting discouraged.
That's awesome Thomas! I've heard good things about Blaschak but noone sells it around here so my Lehigh works well too. Thanks for sharing man!
@@Mallard5plus1Farmhouse I wonder if anyone in the Amish communities near you sell coal? Franklin Anthracite is also good stuff.
i use char coal to start my coal burning stove
Yeah I've heard of people doing that 👍
Once the coal is glowing does that mean its set for hours?
Yeah that means you have it burning good..so I usually toss some more on and it should be good for hours
nothing like anthracite coal heat its the best..... FJB for the high prices.
Yeah I wish it was a way cheaper heat source.. that would be great!
Could I burn coals in a regular woodstove ?
If you're stove isn't rated for coal I would not.. coal burns hot and could damage your woodstove
No dancing blue ladies?
You would not be able to afford coal in England. .11 bags of coal cost 187 £ and there will be bags of coal more expensive than that
Has anyone heard of burning alder bushes, chopped up, dried and bagged like coal? It is too hot to burn in a wood stove.
i was told to make good fire and put 100lbs of caol in the large pot belly stove so it burns for 3 to 4 days;'
Hey if it works for you then that's all that matters buddy 👍..I try to conserve my coal while getting a long burn at the same time
100 lbs in a pot belly stove? I didn't know they made them that big. 3 days of burning 100lbs, will make lots of ash. If you have a stove that'll hold that much, you'll have ta shake it down a few times a day, I'm guessing.