@@TommyboyGTP nah its cause for steel shot is 40$ a box lol and theirs only 2 brands that make it. On top of that even lead by me for them are 20 bucks a box my 10 gauge don't even cost that. If i bought hevi shot for goose or somthing then yeah for my 10 it will be like 80$ a box but I only buy federals for my 10 and it's only 30$ a box and I only use it like maybe 40 times a year
@@MartellOutdoors If more offerings to buy 16 gauges come out, and more companies make ammo, prices will come down. Specialty loads i'm sure will still be high but for that just go 12 gauge if you want heavy magnum loads
16ga is slowly making a comeback. Most of the new offerings are o/u shotguns from Stevens, CZ, Browning & TriStar. The sweet 16 is the only new auto loader in 16 that I’m aware of
Inertia guns have to be braced in order to cycle; hip and over head does not offer enough of resistance/bracing in order to cycle. This is a beautiful gun.
Those Federal loads are also only a 2 1/2 dram which is on the lighter side as they want them to be safe in older 16ga’s. I’ve shot those loads and had the same problem with my sweet 16 A5, and did not have a single issue with other ammo. So I’d attribute the cycling issues to the light loads more than being shot unsupported.
I have owned one for two years and haven't had even one cycling issue. I couldn't be happier and my A5 Sweet Sixteen is my go to gun for skeet, sporting clays, grouse and pheasant hunting. I own a Benelli Super Black Eagle III and it stays in the closet at home. Don't be afraid of purchasing this gun, it's a great gun.
That’s because His “cycling issues” only come when he isn’t holding the firearm steady. If the whole firearm moves rearward with the recoil, then there is no way for the bolt to cycle.
exactly. i commented that hes shooting the crapiest shell federal makes. even their high end shells suck balls. ive been a duck hunter for 30 years. federal was the bomb until early/mid 2ks. this gun needs real ammo to work not the cheap crap
I love the 16 ga. I own both 12 ga and 20 ga shotguns, but my favorite pheasant hunting gun is one I inherited from my Grandpa. It's a Remington model 31 pump shotgun probably made in the late 30s or early 40s. It's a working man's shotgun, not fancy at all, no checkering or fancy finish. But the action is glassey smooth and the 16 ga drops pheasants if I do my part, no problem! I'd love to see a comeback of the good old sweet 16ga!
Remington model 31 in 16 gauge was my first shotgun, got it from my dad who got it from his dad, still got it, shot alot of pheasant and partridge with it, alot.
I have an A5 12 ga.. Have over 1200 rounds through it, everything from 2 3/4” target loads, 3”, to 3 1/2”. It has never failed to eat anything I’ve fed it. My son has one as well with the same results. However I use it as it was designed for its’ intended use. My dad hunted with his Auto 5 Sweet 16 over 50 years. He never had any feed issues until 16 ga. shells became hard to find in the 90s. It did not like lo-brass shells. The original Browning autos are not A5’s. I hear this all the time. They are Auto 5’s. The “A5” has only been in production in this century. While I love them both, these guns have very little in common with the Auto 5. They are more akin to a Benelli.
Unfortunately its not. Ammo is close to $1 per round. Very sad, because I love the caliber and one of my favorite shotguns my father gave me and I can never shoot it. Luckily I have a couple cases saved from years ago....I take it out for Dove season, 2 box's is what I limit myself to.
@@KM-oi9ks I am in Canada and I would LOVE to pay 1.00 a round! I did buy up some .16 before covid at 16.00 a box --- I have enough to take my old stevens 520 in .16 on a few rabbit hunts each winter. Enjoy the Dove hunt! I'd be lucky to hit 2 doves with 2 boxes :)
@@roystephenson5607 I like your outlook man. I bet you would get plenty of doves if you came out with us. when they are flying - WOA boy is it a good time. Im not a great shot, but it sure is FUN to be out there with my wife and her father and his old friends. He haven't missed a season in 50 years. Opening day is just a blast. I love rabbits too - so good luck on your next adventure - save them skins and make something cool besides stew. Take care
I have the heavy duck , and a beautiful 1947 20 gauge. This year I'm gonna try and add a 16 gauge to my collection. The heavy duck I have had for about 7 years now and has been my turkey gun ever since I got it.
I understand that you’re going up against Brownings claims, but, you can’t blame a gun for not cycling correctly if it’s an Inertia based firearm and you’re holding it the wrong way. You’re essentially blaming gravity for the gun not working.
My A5 Sweet 16 started having feeding issues after I shot a couple boxes of shells through it. The problem gradually worsened the more I shot it. Normal gun cleaning did not improve the problem. I removed the magazine spring and shell follower and thoroughly cleaned the magazine. The magazine was real dirty from the factory. The shotgun now functions perfect. I wonder if this was causing issues with your testing?
Two things about inertia guns, 1. They have to be mounted firm, it’s kinda like limp wristing a pistol if they’re not held firmly when shot and 2. The new browning inertia guns like to be wet. With lube that is. They come dry from the factory. At least mine was.
SBE 3 is junk I don't even know why you guys keep trying to get them to go head to head go to the store and buy each one or rent out each one. I have shot literally every shotgun to known and the browning maxus 2 was my favorite so I went and bought 5 diffrent models they made
@@hankharrel6191 I don't think I know I have owned 2 of them nothing but problems. I put over 30,000 rounds through a gun a year for hunting and practicing. Same with berettas I have owned a few semis and over under nothing but problems. One day had enough bought a pump sxp max 5 camo best cheap shotgun I have ever owned now I own 3 SXPs for duck,goose,pheasant hunting. I have 3 browning 10 gauges 1 semi auto and 2 pumps one for goose and one for turkey hunting. Then I have 2 sweet sixteens one is a collectors edition, worth about 5k right now. The otherone is newer so I don't care about it being beat up from hunting. I own like 5 browning maxuses few old ones, my newest editions being a carbon fiber trap gun and then the maxus 2 wicked wing edition, then I have a regular field one. I own also a few A5s the older wicked wing and the silver colored one. I have 2 browning Cynergy's a wicked wing edition cause their super beautiful colors and a regular field editionstill over a 2500$ gun And I beat the living shit out of both my duck and goose guns never one problem with them. And I'll never shoot anything but browning and Winchester So yeah I know a little bit I was never brand loyal till I wanted a reliable shotgun for the only bird hunting.
This gun is awesome. I had the same cycle issues. Was on a hunt too. Got home and took the gun apart. Put a drop of oil on each side of the bolt grooves. Next day. Was a big improvement. The gun never had a hiccup. I feel the grooves need to be “wet” oiled for best performance.
This is what worries me about buying one, 1oz 7.5 or #6 are the majority of the shells I use for hunting and would hate to spend that much to have issues.
@@rex8958 light oiling is the issue. That’s it. I’m not rich or make a lot. This gun is the most expensive gun I’ve ever bought. I was sweating adding to cart. Once I figured out the grooves need to be “wet” she runs excellent. Before I figure this out. Was an “oh man” moment.
@@duckbrian7973 thank you a lot for sharing your experience. I'm in the same boat this would be the most i would spend on a gun and have been close to buying it a couple times. Hopefully in the coming months I will
Would love to see a review of a retay masi Mara or gordion. I have an sbe 3 and my buddy recently got a retay gordion. The feel of them is near Identical when you pick them up. I prefer the raised rib of the sbe and the milder recoil but the retay comes in at around half the price. Anyway great video keep em coming!
I really wanted to like it, however you had more cycling issues in one minute than I've had with my sweet 16 Belgian made gun. That I've had for over 35 years. Thanks for the review
I bought one in 12 gauge but what I really wanted was a sweet 16 they were sold out of them and the 12 they had has some spectacular wood so it came home with me. Two weeks later I walked in and there sat my sweet 16. I was crushed. Some day soon I hope to own it also.
It’s a sporting shotgun. Not meant to shoot over your head or from the hip. Needs a good solid base on your shoulder for the recoil to cycle properly. Didn’t read that anywhere just my opinion.
I used to have the original Auto 5 Light 12 back in the 80’s… and it NEVER failed to cycle or eject…NOT EVEN ONCE! I’ve been interested in buying one of these new sweet 16s. But after seeing those cycling/ejection issues you were having, it’s kind of making me have second thoughts. That’s an awfully expensive shotgun to be having those kind of issues!
@Jan Holcomb Yes…You could be right. Its not designed to be held like a home invasion close quarters PUMP shotgun….It’s a “Semi-Auto” designed for HUNTING.
@Jan Holcomb The same happens with some pistols, if you don't hold them right/tight(no limp-wrist) i.e. like you mean it ;) , the recoil forces can get "lost" and they don't work right. The same can be said for any hammer or tool.
Light twelves are notorious for jamming, especially low brass shells. I have several some are flawless and one or two act up occasionally. Love these guns, but my original sweet 16 is my go to.
Another good honest review. I have to be honest and say I may or may not have bought a gun cause it was pretty even knowing it may have an issue. Keep it up.
A friend of mine had 12 guage version and it had cycling issues also. They do not do well in cold weather during goose season. My gas guns never have issues.
I have a Winchester Model 12 in 16ga, a Remington Sportsman 48 in 16ga and a Remington Model 11 in 16ga. I love them. They are great for bird hunting. Not enough power for deer & hogs with the #1 Buckshot. Im going to try the off-hand shots with the Remingtons to see if there is any cycling issues.
These reviews are really nice, I’ve got a friend who’s been looking at some shotguns and I’ve referred him to a few that you’ve reviewed in the past couple months, keep ‘em coming lol
I would like to see browning respond to this video on the cycling issues. $1500 is way too much money for a gun that has cycling issues. When I buy a semi automatic shotgun the top attribute on my list is reliability. To me it’s just a pretty piece of firewood. I was about to buy one but glad I came across this video.
Year old video. I have a Remington Mod# 11 that was my Grandfathers It is over 80 years old and shoots like new never had a jam or any firing issue. love it. I have trouble finding 16ga. shells lately.
I bought one roughly around this time, and looked around for chokes and carlson doesn't make one for the 16 ga, but now browning makes the wicked wing sweet 16 and i hope i can reach out to them to get a extended choke.
I own a 1956 Sweet 16 that has never failed me. All of my pals had various 12guages, including a model 12, and I would always outshoot them. It had a freakishly tight choke and would knock a steel rocking chair arse over breakfast faster than any of their 12's.The new one can't hold a candle to the older Belgians! Just saying!!
Wow, the cycle issues broke my heart because I want that exact gun so badly. I was excited to see this video. Now, after watching all those issues with cycling, I don't know what to do. I guess I have to try to find a different American brand . Maybe I check with Mossberg or Remington because I plan to hunt with this gun in the wet lands and field of the low country of SC. So it will get dirty .😮
@justanordinarydude6097 no not yet still doing research. I do have the sweet 16 given to me from my grandfather. I have always been a fan of the 16 guage because it's different and unique. There were so many 20 and 12 guages, and I liked to have something different.
For me, comparing between 12, 16 and 20 gauge is a little bit like the story of Goldielocks. 12 gauge is awesome but the gun feels too big and bulky. 20 gauge guns are a dream to carry in the field but the ammo is not as strong in my opinion as 12 gauge. So 16 gauge is the perfect gauge between 12 and 20. And I have always been curious about this gauge
The biggest problem today with the 16 is ammunition availability. Cabela's recently had some 28s but no 16s. Even prior to the crunch availability wasn't great. You are right about it being a nice middle ground. I spent an afternoon shooting an original Sweet 16 many years ago. Nice, nice shotgun.
Not as strong?? You can get a 1oz load for 12, 16, and 20ga. So you could have the exact same “power” out of all 3 gauges given the loads are the same velocity. But of course many 20ga 1oz loads are slower than 1oz 16ga loads, and a 12ga 1oz load is usually faster yet. But yes over all the 16 bridges the gap between the 12 and 20ga loads perfectly.
Well, if you're big bulky guy, the 12 vs 16 really doesn't matter. Then you get into finding 16 (or 20) / various magnum/special loads to begin with. Not knocking the 16, Just the loads/recoil did not really matter to me, when I used to shoot alot, before 50- 100 rounds or so LOL
"Inertia driven" is a bit of slick scientific-sounding terminology that Benelli marketing guys came up with in the 1990s to charge much more $$$$. The original wording was "delayed blowback," but that isn't as sexy sounding. Browning then upped the linguistic ante with the acrobatic sounding "Kinematic Drive." ~~ If I ran a shotgun company I would call my autoloading system the "Entropy Proportionality Hydrothermal Drive."
Got lucky enough to grab an A5 wicked wing sweet 16 today from mid way. Should have it Thursday! Can't wait. They're very hard to find right now. Been looking months.
the wicked wing A5 and most of the newer A5 shotguns have a “speed reload” meaning when you shoot your 3rd shot or empty the gun and the camber is open, you can load a shell into the bottom of the gun and it will automatically load it, haven’t seen you talk about it in any reviews on the A5s but would love to see what you think about it!
You are correct. I sometimes forget about this because it is not a feature I really use. I can slam a shell into an open chamber like nobody's business so I don't worry about loading from below. I think it is a fine feature, just not for me. 👊 Stay Target 🎯Focused (Hebrews 12:1-3)
Off topic question but sometime could you give us some tips on improving our shooting on crossing shots? I know I’d really appreciate it keep up the good work!
Mines has an issue cycling anything under an oz. Best results ive had is using 32gram Winchester super speed. The lightest recoiling i think not it kicks more with them 32gram shells over a 50 gram 12ga through my beretta 391 urika or o/u
It’s an inertia shotgun. Which means it uses the guns recoil to operate. If the stock isn’t braced against the shoulder or a fixed point the inertia system can’t cycle the action properly. So of course it’s not going to cycle when shot “over the head” or “from the hip”. My Benelli Montefeltro won’t either. I love my soft shooting gas operated 11-87 but if not clean it’s not nearly as reliable as my A5 or Benelli.
I would never know if a shotgun I bought for hunting and clays fired over my head or not because I would never shoot it that way. It's meant to be fired from a solid shoulder mount, inertia guns even more so. Guns that fire in any and all positions would be pumps, single shots and doubles. It's trigger also wouldn't be an issue because I don't do exhibition shooting. It has 2 3/4" chambers because as far as I know no one makes 3" 16 gauge shells. Or ever have. I look at that gun in a hunting, sporting clays aspect and not exhibition shooting. But that's me.
Love the reviews. Seems they are all on semi autos. How about doing some over unders, and side by sides that are in that same price range as the semis. Some of us LOVE our stack barrel guns!
Watched a lot of your a5 videos and not once have you covered the speed load feature, like the older auto5 with the bolt open feed the first shell in the magazine and it automatically feeds into the chamber. Very quick reload while hunting and trying to get one more shot
It's a recoil gun dude, it's not gonna run holding out it the open. It's made for shooting birds and rabbits, not laying under you truck, or hanging from your roof. It's not a tactical shotgun. If you want a tac shotgun get a pump. I don't know about these new a5's but the old ones, Belgium made, were the best autos ever made by far. Many say this not just me.
I know this is old, since it's recoil operated, it's going to have feed issues if it doesn't have a solid shoulder to recoil off of. Same happens with even the best semi auto pistols if you "Limp wrist" it.
Cycling issues an inertia gun have nothing to do with it being dirty. In fact inertia guns always operate clean because all the gases exit out the barrel. Cycling issues are a factor of how heavy the spring in the bolt is and how heavy of loads you are shooting. It also matters if the butt is placed up against something to give it resistance.
Interesting how is doesn’t cycle reliably. My new version A5 Wicked Wing 12 ga. 3 1/2 in. Doesn’t cycle reliably if it isn’t anchored tightly in my shoulder. Missed birds because of it. Definitely not as reliable as my Benelli’s. Browning missed the mark.
The story behind Browning's adventures in attempting to get the original A5 into production is quite a doozy - ruined relationships, untimely deaths, and overseas trips.
They are some really nice guns. Some people really like 16guage guns. Shells are hard to find in my area. Personally I don’t like 16 gauge shotguns but they are nice. Thanks for doing the video.
I’ve herd a lot of people having problems with the new A5 shotguns of all gauges. Browning and Remington are not what that once where for sure and I wouldn’t buy any of them.
I really wish more manufacturers would start producing more 16 gauges in all forms of semi auto, pump, doubles, etc.
They won't cause of ammo prices it's not shot as much anymore
@@MartellOutdoors That's because of the limited offerings chambered in 16 gauge.
@@TommyboyGTP nah its cause for steel shot is 40$ a box lol and theirs only 2 brands that make it. On top of that even lead by me for them are 20 bucks a box my 10 gauge don't even cost that. If i bought hevi shot for goose or somthing then yeah for my 10 it will be like 80$ a box but I only buy federals for my 10 and it's only 30$ a box and I only use it like maybe 40 times a year
@@MartellOutdoors If more offerings to buy 16 gauges come out, and more companies make ammo, prices will come down. Specialty loads i'm sure will still be high but for that just go 12 gauge if you want heavy magnum loads
16ga is slowly making a comeback. Most of the new offerings are o/u shotguns from Stevens, CZ, Browning & TriStar. The sweet 16 is the only new auto loader in 16 that I’m aware of
Ive owned one for the past 43 yrs .never had any problem .just love it
Inertia guns have to be braced in order to cycle; hip and over head does not offer enough of resistance/bracing in order to cycle. This is a beautiful gun.
Agreed but the Franchi did work fine in the same test.
Yaaa def a common thing with Inertia guns, kinda stupid to even worry about it not working from the hip
Those Federal loads are also only a 2 1/2 dram which is on the lighter side as they want them to be safe in older 16ga’s. I’ve shot those loads and had the same problem with my sweet 16 A5, and did not have a single issue with other ammo. So I’d attribute the cycling issues to the light loads more than being shot unsupported.
This guy in the video claims to be an expert??? 🤣
Call Benelli and tell them you have this issue, and the will tell you that need to shoulder an inertia gun and have a solid mount.
I have owned one for two years and haven't had even one cycling issue. I couldn't be happier and my A5 Sweet Sixteen is my go to gun for skeet, sporting clays, grouse and pheasant hunting. I own a Benelli Super Black Eagle III and it stays in the closet at home. Don't be afraid of purchasing this gun, it's a great gun.
I totally agree, I love my sweet 16 ran a lot of rounds through it and no issues
That’s because
His “cycling issues” only come when he isn’t holding the firearm steady. If the whole firearm moves rearward with the recoil, then there is no way for the bolt to cycle.
exactly. i commented that hes shooting the crapiest shell federal makes. even their high end shells suck balls. ive been a duck hunter for 30 years. federal was the bomb until early/mid 2ks. this gun needs real ammo to work not the cheap crap
I love the 16 ga. I own both 12 ga and 20 ga shotguns, but my favorite pheasant hunting gun is one I inherited from my Grandpa. It's a Remington model 31 pump shotgun probably made in the late 30s or early 40s. It's a working man's shotgun, not fancy at all, no checkering or fancy finish. But the action is glassey smooth and the 16 ga drops pheasants if I do my part, no problem!
I'd love to see a comeback of the good old sweet 16ga!
Remington model 31 in 16 gauge was my first shotgun, got it from my dad who got it from his dad, still got it, shot alot of pheasant and partridge with it, alot.
I have an A5 12 ga.. Have over 1200 rounds through it, everything from 2 3/4” target loads, 3”, to 3 1/2”. It has never failed to eat anything I’ve fed it. My son has one as well with the same results. However I use it as it was designed for its’ intended use.
My dad hunted with his Auto 5 Sweet 16 over 50 years. He never had any feed issues until 16 ga. shells became hard to find in the 90s. It did not like lo-brass shells.
The original Browning autos are not A5’s. I hear this all the time. They are Auto 5’s. The “A5” has only been in production in this century.
While I love them both, these guns have very little in common with the Auto 5. They are more akin to a Benelli.
Love that the .16 is getting attention again
Unfortunately its not. Ammo is close to $1 per round. Very sad, because I love the caliber and one of my favorite shotguns my father gave me and I can never shoot it. Luckily I have a couple cases saved from years ago....I take it out for Dove season, 2 box's is what I limit myself to.
@@KM-oi9ks I am in Canada and I would LOVE to pay 1.00 a round! I did buy up some .16 before covid at 16.00 a box --- I have enough to take my old stevens 520 in .16 on a few rabbit hunts each winter. Enjoy the Dove hunt! I'd be lucky to hit 2 doves with 2 boxes :)
@@roystephenson5607 I like your outlook man. I bet you would get plenty of doves if you came out with us. when they are flying - WOA boy is it a good time. Im not a great shot, but it sure is FUN to be out there with my wife and her father and his old friends. He haven't missed a season in 50 years. Opening day is just a blast. I love rabbits too - so good luck on your next adventure - save them skins and make something cool besides stew.
Take care
THANKS!!!!
16 ga is hands down one of the versatile shells available. It should be way more popular… in all variations.
Id also add the 1oz 1165fps may be below Brownings recommended shell
I’ve noticed that most inertia driven shotguns have cycling issues when not shouldered or held to a backstop of some sort.
Exactly, why would anyone even want to shoot one over their head upside down? Or from the hip? Put it on the shoulder.
The Winchester Model 12 in 16 gauge is my preference without a vent rib for hunting. The model 12 is still king of shotguns..
I have the heavy duck , and a beautiful 1947 20 gauge. This year I'm gonna try and add a 16 gauge to my collection. The heavy duck I have had for about 7 years now and has been my turkey gun ever since I got it.
I’ve got the ultimate A5 16 gauge I’ve shot numerous boxes of federal game load with no issues shoots great
I understand that you’re going up against Brownings claims, but, you can’t blame a gun for not cycling correctly if it’s an Inertia based firearm and you’re holding it the wrong way. You’re essentially blaming gravity for the gun not working.
My A5 Sweet 16 started having feeding issues after I shot a couple boxes of shells through it. The problem gradually worsened the more I shot it. Normal gun cleaning did not improve the problem. I removed the magazine spring and shell follower and thoroughly cleaned the magazine. The magazine was real dirty from the factory. The shotgun now functions perfect. I wonder if this was causing issues with your testing?
Two things about inertia guns, 1. They have to be mounted firm, it’s kinda like limp wristing a pistol if they’re not held firmly when shot and 2. The new browning inertia guns like to be wet. With lube that is. They come dry from the factory. At least mine was.
Would also like to see a shotgun comparison between the browning wicked wing A5 and the SBE 3
Yes thats what i want to see
SBE 3 is junk I don't even know why you guys keep trying to get them to go head to head go to the store and buy each one or rent out each one. I have shot literally every shotgun to known and the browning maxus 2 was my favorite so I went and bought 5 diffrent models they made
@@MartellOutdoors why do you think the SBE 3 is junk?
@@hankharrel6191 I don't think I know I have owned 2 of them nothing but problems. I put over 30,000 rounds through a gun a year for hunting and practicing. Same with berettas I have owned a few semis and over under nothing but problems. One day had enough bought a pump sxp max 5 camo best cheap shotgun I have ever owned now I own 3 SXPs for duck,goose,pheasant hunting. I have 3 browning 10 gauges 1 semi auto and 2 pumps one for goose and one for turkey hunting. Then I have 2 sweet sixteens one is a collectors edition, worth about 5k right now. The otherone is newer so I don't care about it being beat up from hunting. I own like 5 browning maxuses few old ones, my newest editions being a carbon fiber trap gun and then the maxus 2 wicked wing edition, then I have a regular field one.
I own also a few A5s the older wicked wing and the silver colored one. I have 2 browning Cynergy's a wicked wing edition cause their super beautiful colors and a regular field editionstill over a 2500$ gun And I beat the living shit out of both my duck and goose guns never one problem with them. And I'll never shoot anything but browning and Winchester
So yeah I know a little bit I was never brand loyal till I wanted a reliable shotgun for the only bird hunting.
@@MartellOutdoors what kind of problems did you have with the Benelli?
The earlier (post 2012) A5s can need a stronger extractor spring. Replaced/upgraded mine for 3$ and have had zero issues since.
Thanks for sharing.
This gun is awesome. I had the same cycle issues. Was on a hunt too. Got home and took the gun apart. Put a drop of oil on each side of the bolt grooves. Next day. Was a big improvement. The gun never had a hiccup. I feel the grooves need to be “wet” oiled for best performance.
This is what worries me about buying one, 1oz 7.5 or #6 are the majority of the shells I use for hunting and would hate to spend that much to have issues.
@@rex8958 light oiling is the issue. That’s it. I’m not rich or make a lot. This gun is the most expensive gun I’ve ever bought. I was sweating adding to cart. Once I figured out the grooves need to be “wet” she runs excellent. Before I figure this out. Was an “oh man” moment.
That’s how the old auto 5s were too. I use an old Belgium browning. I have to oil around the spring before you shoot.
@@duckbrian7973 thank you a lot for sharing your experience. I'm in the same boat this would be the most i would spend on a gun and have been close to buying it a couple times. Hopefully in the coming months I will
@@rex8958 these don’t stay for sale long. Searched for a few months. Don’t know about now.
Would love to see a review of a retay masi Mara or gordion. I have an sbe 3 and my buddy recently got a retay gordion. The feel of them is near Identical when you pick them up. I prefer the raised rib of the sbe and the milder recoil but the retay comes in at around half the price. Anyway great video keep em coming!
Masi Mara is a good cheaper option of the benelli system. Better quality than stoger, around the same quality of Franchi
I really wanted to like it, however you had more cycling issues in one minute than I've had with my sweet 16 Belgian made gun. That I've had for over 35 years. Thanks for the review
I love my Remington 1100 in 16 gauge
I bought one in 12 gauge but what I really wanted was a sweet 16 they were sold out of them and the 12 they had has some spectacular wood so it came home with me. Two weeks later I walked in and there sat my sweet 16. I was crushed. Some day soon I hope to own it also.
Dang soooo close!!! Was looking forward to a review on a browning silver field please please🙌🏽 thanks man for the videos you do a fantastic job!
Its the same gun as the sx4 with a small hump on the rear of the receiver
That is a very simple breakdown and reassemble.
It’s a sporting shotgun. Not meant to shoot over your head or from the hip. Needs a good solid base on your shoulder for the recoil to cycle properly. Didn’t read that anywhere just my opinion.
I used to have the original Auto 5 Light 12 back in the 80’s… and it NEVER failed to cycle or eject…NOT EVEN ONCE! I’ve been interested in buying one of these new sweet 16s. But after seeing
those cycling/ejection issues you were having, it’s kind of making me have second thoughts. That’s an awfully expensive shotgun to be having those kind of issues!
@Jan Holcomb
Yes…You could be right. Its not designed to be held like a home invasion close quarters PUMP shotgun….It’s a “Semi-Auto” designed for HUNTING.
@Jan Holcomb The same happens with some pistols, if you don't hold them right/tight(no limp-wrist) i.e. like you mean it ;) , the recoil forces can get "lost" and they don't work right. The same can be said for any hammer or tool.
Are you really going to be shooting over your head though 😒
@@cjsiglerii
Of course not.
Light twelves are notorious for jamming, especially low brass shells. I have several some are flawless and one or two act up occasionally. Love these guns, but my original sweet 16 is my go to.
nice review king keep them up
Thanks, will do!
Great review. I read some reviews online and they also said their Sweet Sixteens had cycling issues. Either way beautiful gun.
It has the "if you touch me i will rust, immediately" look, my browning BAR 270 is absolutely like that
Another good honest review. I have to be honest and say I may or may not have bought a gun cause it was pretty even knowing it may have an issue. Keep it up.
A friend of mine had 12 guage version and it had cycling issues also. They do not do well in cold weather during goose season. My gas guns never have issues.
I have a Winchester Model 12 in 16ga, a Remington Sportsman 48 in 16ga and a Remington Model 11 in 16ga. I love them. They are great for bird hunting. Not enough power for deer & hogs with the #1 Buckshot. Im going to try the off-hand shots with the Remingtons to see if there is any cycling issues.
I have two of the old Sweet Sixteen's and I love them......
These reviews are really nice, I’ve got a friend who’s been looking at some shotguns and I’ve referred him to a few that you’ve reviewed in the past couple months, keep ‘em coming lol
would love to see a Browning Silver review. Maybe compare it against the SX4 or against the pricier Maxus II to show what the real differences are
I would like to see browning respond to this video on the cycling issues. $1500 is way too much money for a gun that has cycling issues. When I buy a semi automatic shotgun the top attribute on my list is reliability. To me it’s just a pretty piece of firewood. I was about to buy one but glad I came across this video.
I’d like to see a review on the impala plus shotgun
Year old video. I have a Remington Mod# 11 that was my Grandfathers It is over 80 years old and shoots like new never had a jam or any firing issue. love it. I have trouble finding 16ga. shells lately.
I bought one roughly around this time, and looked around for chokes and carlson doesn't make one for the 16 ga, but now browning makes the wicked wing sweet 16 and i hope i can reach out to them to get a extended choke.
I really like your speedy style review, maybe a body cam could be very cool sometimes to mix in all your shooting. Gj
Excellent for pheasants. 16 gauge shells may be harder to find.
I own a 1956 Sweet 16 that has never failed me. All of my pals had various 12guages, including a model 12, and I would always outshoot them. It had a freakishly tight choke and would knock a steel rocking chair arse over breakfast faster than any of their 12's.The new one can't hold a candle to the older Belgians! Just saying!!
Wow, the cycle issues broke my heart because I want that exact gun so badly. I was excited to see this video. Now, after watching all those issues with cycling, I don't know what to do. I guess I have to try to find a different American brand . Maybe I check with Mossberg or Remington because I plan to hunt with this gun in the wet lands and field of the low country of SC. So it will get dirty .😮
Well did you get an a5
@justanordinarydude6097 no not yet still doing research. I do have the sweet 16 given to me from my grandfather. I have always been a fan of the 16 guage because it's different and unique. There were so many 20 and 12 guages, and I liked to have something different.
For me, comparing between 12, 16 and 20 gauge is a little bit like the story of Goldielocks. 12 gauge is awesome but the gun feels too big and bulky. 20 gauge guns are a dream to carry in the field but the ammo is not as strong in my opinion as 12 gauge. So 16 gauge is the perfect gauge between 12 and 20. And I have always been curious about this gauge
The biggest problem today with the 16 is ammunition availability. Cabela's recently had some 28s but no 16s. Even prior to the crunch availability wasn't great. You are right about it being a nice middle ground. I spent an afternoon shooting an original Sweet 16 many years ago. Nice, nice shotgun.
Not as strong?? You can get a 1oz load for 12, 16, and 20ga. So you could have the exact same “power” out of all 3 gauges given the loads are the same velocity. But of course many 20ga 1oz loads are slower than 1oz 16ga loads, and a 12ga 1oz load is usually faster yet. But yes over all the 16 bridges the gap between the 12 and 20ga loads perfectly.
@@ralphpezda6523 not a ton of options for 16ga ammo on the market, but the availability certainly is there.
Well, if you're big bulky guy, the 12 vs 16 really doesn't matter.
Then you get into finding 16 (or 20) / various magnum/special loads to begin with.
Not knocking the 16, Just the loads/recoil did not really matter to me, when I used to shoot alot,
before 50- 100 rounds or so LOL
Just have to buy shells in the off season. Hopefully the 16 will continue to grow and we can get more options.
"Inertia driven" is a bit of slick scientific-sounding terminology that Benelli marketing guys came up with in the 1990s to charge much more $$$$. The original wording was "delayed blowback," but that isn't as sexy sounding. Browning then upped the linguistic ante with the acrobatic sounding "Kinematic Drive." ~~ If I ran a shotgun company I would call my autoloading system the "Entropy Proportionality Hydrothermal Drive."
Got lucky enough to grab an A5 wicked wing sweet 16 today from mid way. Should have it Thursday! Can't wait. They're very hard to find right now. Been looking months.
I don't care what Browning says, the original (and only) Sweet 16 is the Auto-5, not the A5. J.M. Browning gave his rights to FN, not Browning USA.
the wicked wing A5 and most of the newer A5 shotguns have a “speed reload” meaning when you shoot your 3rd shot or empty the gun and the camber is open, you can load a shell into the bottom of the gun and it will automatically load it, haven’t seen you talk about it in any reviews on the A5s but would love to see what you think about it!
You are correct. I sometimes forget about this because it is not a feature I really use. I can slam a shell into an open chamber like nobody's business so I don't worry about loading from below. I think it is a fine feature, just not for me. 👊 Stay Target 🎯Focused (Hebrews 12:1-3)
I've got a 48' model with a similar feature on the shell catch
These guns really feel amazing. Lightweight and shoots like a dream. The price of shells and the Msrp is holding me back.
I found purple hulls for 14$ a box at wally world😅
I bought a new A5 16 guage , after hunting with it last year I put it back in the closet and got my model 12 back out , nothing shoots like a model 12
all made by john browning so same thing @@larryhatfield7372
Off topic question but sometime could you give us some tips on improving our shooting on crossing shots? I know I’d really appreciate it keep up the good work!
This is not a gas operated firearm, it is designed to be shot from the shoulder, not overhead, it needs resistance to operate correctly.
Mines has an issue cycling anything under an oz. Best results ive had is using 32gram Winchester super speed. The lightest recoiling i think not it kicks more with them 32gram shells over a 50 gram 12ga through my beretta 391 urika or o/u
It’s an inertia shotgun. Which means it uses the guns recoil to operate. If the stock isn’t braced against the shoulder or a fixed point the inertia system can’t cycle the action properly. So of course it’s not going to cycle when shot “over the head” or “from the hip”. My Benelli Montefeltro won’t either. I love my soft shooting gas operated 11-87 but if not clean it’s not nearly as reliable as my A5 or Benelli.
I got to eat some crow here. I fired my Benelli Montefeltro yesterday from the hip and over the head. It cycled both times 🤦🏻♂️
I would never know if a shotgun I bought for hunting and clays fired over my head or not because I would never shoot it that way. It's meant to be fired from a solid shoulder mount, inertia guns even more so. Guns that fire in any and all positions would be pumps, single shots and doubles. It's trigger also wouldn't be an issue because I don't do exhibition shooting. It has 2 3/4" chambers because as far as I know no one makes 3" 16 gauge shells. Or ever have. I look at that gun in a hunting, sporting clays aspect and not exhibition shooting. But that's me.
I like this gun a lot, but I have had cycling issues (16 gauge). Needs a lot of lube.
Love the reviews. Seems they are all on semi autos. How about doing some over unders, and side by sides that are in that same price range as the semis. Some of us LOVE our stack barrel guns!
Watched a lot of your a5 videos and not once have you covered the speed load feature, like the older auto5 with the bolt open feed the first shell in the magazine and it automatically feeds into the chamber. Very quick reload while hunting and trying to get one more shot
Ready for the Silver Pigeon. 😎
Отличный обзор! Спасибо ! Владею А5 10 лет! Отличный аппарат, перезаряжает все навески! С уважение к Вам!
Excellent device!? WTF!?
Great work Steve. Have a good one 👍.
It's a recoil gun dude, it's not gonna run holding out it the open. It's made for shooting birds and rabbits, not laying under you truck, or hanging from your roof. It's not a tactical shotgun. If you want a tac shotgun get a pump. I don't know about these new a5's but the old ones, Belgium made, were the best autos ever made by far. Many say this not just me.
I know this is old, since it's recoil operated, it's going to have feed issues if it doesn't have a solid shoulder to recoil off of. Same happens with even the best semi auto pistols if you "Limp wrist" it.
He's a lil fella, even on the shoulder those light 1oz loads knocked him around lol.
Please do a review on the CZ 1012.
I was looking for this one.
Cycling issues an inertia gun have nothing to do with it being dirty. In fact inertia guns always operate clean because all the gases exit out the barrel. Cycling issues are a factor of how heavy the spring in the bolt is and how heavy of loads you are shooting. It also matters if the butt is placed up against something to give it resistance.
I have an original Sweet 16 50s mfg . Hard to find a better quail gun . My hand load is 1oz of no 7s at 1300 fps . Not 7 1/2s no 7s
I love a 16ga shotgun! The only thing this gun needs is sling studs from the factory
Interesting how is doesn’t cycle reliably. My new version A5 Wicked Wing 12 ga. 3 1/2 in. Doesn’t cycle reliably if it isn’t anchored tightly in my shoulder. Missed birds because of it. Definitely not as reliable as my Benelli’s. Browning missed the mark.
I wanna see citadel warthog vs Benelli budget shotgun vs expensive shot gun
16 is truly the sweet spot. Ha. It’s highly underrated and forgotten.
Let’s see the 16 gran lightning!!
75% more right angles than the competition.
I have the Tristar viper g2 16 gauge and love it
You should say the "Gould" trigger joke every time a shotgun has a "Gould" trigger.
Is the tube oiled? That the first thing to apply when cycling issues arise.
The tristar viper G2 comes also in 16 gauge. Wold like to see a review on that a d possibly a head to head with the browning sweet 16.
The story behind Browning's adventures in attempting to get the original A5 into production is quite a doozy - ruined relationships, untimely deaths, and overseas trips.
Have you made a video on that? Sounds interesting.
@@TargetFocusedLife I have! Here you go: th-cam.com/video/qQIAPUXjpqo/w-d-xo.html
Could you do a full break down and cleaning video of the beretta A400 Xtreme Plus! Thanks in advance!
When is the 20 ga coming out browning?
Wow great video buddy but very disappointing to see that it jamed that much
Good video if you dont reload 16 gauge I want the hulls 😄
Me and my dad went into Whittakers in Owensboro Kentucky and found an a5 I don’t know what model it was but it was only 875
Browning has mine. Less than 2000 rounds through it is the least reliable shotgun I have bought thus far.
Steve if you take a gun like this and smith it or lighten the bolt will that improve cycling overhead and all those type scenarios?
Okay, now do the Tristar Viper in 16 ga. I love 16s.
It is a concern if you had to take a very quick shot and hadn't time to mount properly you could only hope your target couldn't shoot back. 😉
Does it come with shims and spacers?
"Gould trigger" aced it 👌
What choke tubes were you going to review for this? Can you add a link to them?
Can you do a review on the cz 1012?
I like to. See a review on the Hatfield SAS $230. I would like to know what a pro shooter thinks of it.
Look love your videos but you also need to test unloading the tube via the shell latch
Cool video pall good job
How about some cheap pump actions like a Tristar, Winchester,mossberg etc
They are some really nice guns. Some people really like 16guage guns. Shells are hard to find in my area. Personally I don’t like 16 gauge shotguns but they are nice. Thanks for doing the video.
Could you do the Remington V3 or Versamax?
Hey Steve you should check out the Benelli Ethos Cordoba in 28 gauge
I’ve herd a lot of people having problems with the new A5 shotguns of all gauges. Browning and Remington are not what that once where for sure and I wouldn’t buy any of them.
Would love to see mossberg 940 pro waterfowl soon
please do a review on the tristar viper g2 sport!!!
Hey Steve. Would like you to get ahold of a new Mossberg 940 Pro Field and give it a review.