At last I have learned why I always hear an annoying clicking sound when watching videos of locomotives idling or at low speed. Spitter valve. Watching your videos is a real learning opportunity.
I am learning a lot from your channel. I subscribed a couple of days ago because the information you have is interesting and for a non railroader it is easily understood. Thanks for sharing this.
Thank you John and welcome to our community, we are glad to have you with us and hope you will continue to enjoy. Here is an introduction video to get you a feel for what all we do here at the Railroad and a bit about our mine: th-cam.com/video/oOug0z34118/w-d-xo.html Lot's of cool RR videos on our home page if you would sometime care to check any of them out. th-cam.com/users/ccrx6700
Hey Dave, I was wondering about this so looked it up and found out why but others might be interested in why a diesel engine is not turned off even when it is derailed as long as that derailment doesn't overturn the engine. You may have already mentioned it and I haven't seen it yet.
EMD says it's easier on the engine wear and tear to keep it running and lubricated than to start it. There is no pre lube on these engines for starting so all the bearings and moving parts are running dry for a finite amount of time before oil pressure gets everything lubed. Plus in the winter time, there is no antifreeze in most locos.
Man i sure do enjoy your videos, and now i have face to go with that voice, keep pumping out the great content. You and a few others on you tube are my only entertainment and thats just fine for me. Thanks from Asheville North Carolina
Wow thank you Tony, really appreciate hearing that from you, glad you are enjoying them sir. We are very blessed that this company allows me to do these
I noticed these HT-C trucks have the Rockwell Engineering symbol on them on the left and the EMD logo on the right. I was unaware that Rockwell Engineering had their hand in truck manufacture back in the day. Rockwell was also known for their helicopter engines and also partnering with GM in the design of the air-cooled Corvair engine in the late 1950s before the Corvair was released in 1960.
Excellent observation! I had never noticed that before myself, your comment the other day got me thinking and so today took a look at the truck on our sd 40-2, you are correct it's there. I have no clue how EMD and Rockwell are partnered in doing that, but thanks for writing that in, I learned something new! Got several books on EMD locos and nothing in either of them on Rockwell either
Interesting comment about the popularity of the SD38-2's... being that at one point your mine was owned by US Steel, I'd be willing to bet they were probably the largest buyer of the 38's... between the Bessemer and Lake Erie, EJ&E, IC, and DMIR, who were all owned by US Steel, they had to have a bunch. Bessemer (now CN) still has a handful in the fleet and a SD38AC-2.
I had been curious about the second air line. I know. I had seen a video explaining them, but apparently it "went in and went out". Like an ex-wife would say, nothing in there to stop anything! So, possibly, can I get a short explanation of the "door line"? (Haven't seen second hoses on UP or BNSF coal drags.) Love your vids!
I think it works like on our railway in Poland. Here we have auxiliary air hose on some freight cars and most passenger cars to operate car pneumatics like automatic doors on passenger cars and dump car mechanism on freight cars. Its kept constantly under pressure from locomotive air compressor. Markings - usually red for brake, yellow for aux
Curious, if the operator had charged the door line and then dumped the air, would that have been able to set the brakes to some level? Lot's to think of during on oh shit moment, but wonder if would have worked.
Line for doors completely separate from train brake pipe (line), what happened was after coupling cars they forgot do a pull apart check, since cars didnt couple correctly, when loco backed up it uncoupled and air lines came apart which set car brakes in emergency
@@ccrx6700 I thought you said the lines were reversed, hence why they started marking them? (also I see a lot of cars have the accessory air feed up way higher so you can't derp out and hook it up wrong because the lines won't reach.)
@@kleetus92 sorry if i confused, couple times operator had hooked the lines up wrong, which resulted in not having car brakes coming down grade, a scarry experience it was for them. After that they marked the lines, hooe that clarified it better
I really like that all the curves and underpasses and bridges are numbered so everyone knows exactly where they are. Is this normal in railroading, or specific to CMRR?
We are unique, we dont interchange with another railroad. We only haul coal from a mine at Kirby Pa., to a barge loading facility on the Monongehela river at Alicia Pa., we have 17 miles track. Numbering bridges and mile posts is for safety and good communications. Thank you for watching
I would have thought the brake and door lines would have different type of fitting for each line the same idea that aircraft to prevent that happening as to Murphy's law
While that is certainly a very good idea Michael it just doesn't happen. Sure would have been useful tho, in the past some new operators have hooked the hoses up wrong and found out when they went down grade they didn't have any brakes, that led to some Oh Crap experiences, that is why they started posting on the locos brake and door signs for each hose. Appreciate your watching sir
How do you keep up with all those letters /numbers of locomotives - rail car model numbers - etc? Even the type of railtrack numbers....amazing! Can tell you've been working the job a long time! 😁👍
Ray, made the suggestion years ago they get me a good looking secretary to help me remember, they gave me instead a note pad and told me to buy my own pen... 😄
Hi Dave I didn’t know that about the one different thing between GP38-2 and SD38-2 was just the trucks are different That’s interesting! Those locomotives are kind of old but still working
There were a few minor differences other than the trucks but nothing major. Got an engineer friend with NS who has ran for 25 years with them. He tells me he would rather run an old GP than any other loco. Do appreciate your writing in and for watching the video today my friend.
Great question David. It is our sand tower for holding sand to put in the locos. Holds about 24 tons. Appreciate your checking out the video tonight my good man.
What radio frequencies are you using? 31 and 155MHz and 5 W? I really like these Diesel engines. There is a posibillity for an fire accident if the engine is hit broad side due to the diesel tank is below the body..
we are on 464.200. Always a possibility, we had a near miss on fuel tank bout 10 years ago, a huge rock fell off a rock cut, came within inches of hitting the fuel tank, we lucked out on that one. all our locos have fire suppression systems on them and are checked on a regular basis by Ansil
Upper line supplies air to open and close the car doors. Yes sir, when air is lost, brakes are applied. Air brakes on a train are a bit complicated, am hoping to make a future video of how they work so stay tuned. thank you for watching
Do you wear hearing protection when on the job? Since I’d like to enter the rail industry but I’m worried that if I’m near the locomotives I’ll go deaf since I’d need to be able to hear the crew over the radio meaning I’d be subjected to the horn and engine sounds.
@@Kinzua820 oh, okay we still have and use the blue ballast car. All our original hoppers for coal were painted blue and that what i thought you meant 😊
I wish I had started working with the Rail Road when I was young instead of working with and around chemicals and later beating around on a forklift to finish out the 35 years I worked. The Rail Road couldn't be much hotter, dirtier, or dangerous than what I was doing, and I'm sure it pays a lot better. Actually, I don't think the pay would have mattered that much. There's much more important things than money. The things we see when we look back...
Thank you David for the heartfelt comment. Can appreciate the work you did. Working around chemicals is a dangerous occupation. Enjoyed reading your story
Hugh, great question, it cause any of our 3 locos coukd get moved into different assigments, dependingbon whether a loco is in for inspection, or has a mechanical problem, so no matter what loco is in lead coming back with loads, its always short hood forward.
Why not put a pad locked derail on also. As when I worked on 3 phase mainly conveyor motors 415 V 50 Hz in UK, l would un plug the test cable and make sure it was under my foot. Also it might be worth putting one on the grades or catch points. There are several TH-cam videos of runaway cars and in the UK several incidents where maintenance crews have had runaway trolleys take off a couple withe fatal crashes. Accidents/incidents cost more than the injuries or lost lives. Thanks for the video.
Kenny, excellent point, it sounds like a hit and miss engine on steroids,,,LOL the loco mechanic installed them and they all drive you nuts by going so fast, I have no clue why it is constant.
They say all safety rules / labels are done because of incidents. Just like you said, make a mistake once, label it for all time going forward. So is that locomotive engineer still work there? I'm guessing not.
Let’s see now, the coal from the mine is transported to the harbour put in barges and I’m assuming from there to a power plant? which generates electricity and heat which in turn supplies electricity for electric cars, so it doesn’t come from the air it come from a smelly power plant guess we need to let people know about that.
I always learn so much. Spitter Valve! Thanks, Dave.
Thank you Ray, glad you enjoy watching
I like your laugh when the hoses blew off 😆
At last I have learned why I always hear an annoying clicking sound when watching videos of locomotives idling or at low speed. Spitter valve. Watching your videos is a real learning opportunity.
Glad you are enjoying them Bob. We do appreciate your watching my good man.
I am learning a lot from your channel. I subscribed a couple of days ago because the information you have is interesting and for a non railroader it is easily understood. Thanks for sharing this.
Thank you John and welcome to our community, we are glad to have you with us and hope you will continue to enjoy.
Here is an introduction video to get you a feel for what all we do here at the Railroad and a bit about our mine:
th-cam.com/video/oOug0z34118/w-d-xo.html
Lot's of cool RR videos on our home page if you would sometime care to check any of them out.
th-cam.com/users/ccrx6700
@@ccrx6700 I will check them out!
Hey Dave, I was wondering about this so looked it up and found out why but others might be interested in why a diesel engine is not turned off even when it is derailed as long as that derailment doesn't overturn the engine. You may have already mentioned it and I haven't seen it yet.
EMD says it's easier on the engine wear and tear to keep it running
and lubricated than to start it. There is no pre lube on these engines
for starting so all the bearings and moving parts are running
dry for a finite amount of time before oil pressure gets
everything lubed. Plus in the winter time, there is no antifreeze
in most locos.
Good morning, Dave. Thank you for explaining the spitter valve. I had wondered what the sound was.
Your very welcome, lots of folks have wanted to know what that
noise is. Actually they don't work very well. Thanks for
taking in the show my friend.
Thank you very much fleetfoot27 for taking the time to watch
the presentation and share with us your thoughts my friend.
Man i sure do enjoy your videos, and now i have face to go with that voice, keep pumping out the great content.
You and a few others on you tube are my only entertainment and thats just fine for me.
Thanks from Asheville North Carolina
Wow thank you Tony, really appreciate hearing that from you,
glad you are enjoying them sir. We are very blessed that this
company allows me to do these
i love the pain on the SD 38-2S you got.
Just think I saw some Timken Roller bearing on the car axels, I worked in the Timken RR bearing division for 15 years.
I noticed these HT-C trucks have the Rockwell Engineering symbol on them on the left and the EMD logo on the right. I was unaware that Rockwell Engineering had their hand in truck manufacture back in the day. Rockwell was also known for their helicopter engines and also partnering with GM in the design of the air-cooled Corvair engine in the late 1950s before the Corvair was released in 1960.
Excellent observation! I had never noticed that before myself, your
comment the other day got me thinking and so today took a look
at the truck on our sd 40-2, you are correct it's there. I have no
clue how EMD and Rockwell are partnered in doing that, but thanks
for writing that in, I learned something new! Got several books on
EMD locos and nothing in either of them on Rockwell either
I knew a Jerry that worked there. He passed away. Great guy and better friend. Got Bless Him.
Interesting comment about the popularity of the SD38-2's... being that at one point your mine was owned by US Steel, I'd be willing to bet they were probably the largest buyer of the 38's... between the Bessemer and Lake Erie, EJ&E, IC, and DMIR, who were all owned by US Steel, they had to have a bunch. Bessemer (now CN) still has a handful in the fleet and a SD38AC-2.
There is a list on wikipedia of all the purchasers of them, i havent looked at it for long time, look up sd 38- 2 on wiki
Extra feet on the ground for tractive effort
Way to go Dave. Have seen this one a few times
Thanks Wayne, never gets old does it. Appreciate your watching
today my good man.
I had been curious about the second air line. I know. I had seen a video explaining them, but apparently it "went in and went out". Like an ex-wife would say, nothing in there to stop anything! So, possibly, can I get a short explanation of the "door line"? (Haven't seen second hoses on UP or BNSF coal drags.)
Love your vids!
Following I am not familiar with "door line" neither
I think it works like on our railway in Poland. Here we have auxiliary air hose on some freight cars and most passenger cars to operate car pneumatics like automatic doors on passenger cars and dump car mechanism on freight cars. Its kept constantly under pressure from locomotive air compressor. Markings - usually red for brake, yellow for aux
I Always wondered what the spitting sound was. Now I know. Thanks 😊
Your welcome David, sounds like a hit and miss engine on steroids...lol Thanks for watching the show
What a grand reference you’re leaving for your children and grandchildren get to listen to their pop
Wow, never thought of that, but your right. Thanks you for watching, I do appreciate that
Curious, if the operator had charged the door line and then dumped the air, would that have been able to set the brakes to some level? Lot's to think of during on oh shit moment, but wonder if would
have worked.
Line for doors completely separate from train brake pipe (line), what happened was after coupling cars they forgot do a pull apart check, since cars didnt couple correctly, when loco backed up it uncoupled and air lines came apart which set car brakes in emergency
@@ccrx6700 I thought you said the lines were reversed, hence why they started marking them? (also I see a lot of cars have the accessory air feed up way higher so you can't derp out and hook it up wrong because the lines won't reach.)
@@kleetus92 sorry if i confused, couple times operator had hooked the lines up wrong, which resulted in not having car brakes coming down grade, a scarry experience it was for them. After that they marked the lines, hooe that clarified it better
Very cool awesome job
Appreciate your watching today Daniel. Glad you liked the video.
big ol girl, if he would head out down track would he still have the long hood leading?? or would that be the pusher for the loaded trip.
Lead on empties to mine, long hood forward. Coming back loaded, the 2nd loco is short nose forward.
I really like that all the curves and underpasses and bridges are numbered so everyone knows exactly where they are. Is this normal in railroading, or specific to CMRR?
We are unique, we dont interchange with another railroad. We only haul coal from a mine at Kirby Pa., to a barge loading facility on the Monongehela river at Alicia Pa., we have 17 miles track. Numbering bridges and mile posts is for safety and good communications. Thank you for watching
Like a air dryer on a truck
I would have thought the brake and door lines would have different type of fitting for each line the same idea that aircraft to prevent that happening as to Murphy's law
While that is certainly a very good idea Michael it just doesn't happen. Sure would have been useful tho, in the past some new
operators have hooked the hoses up wrong and found out
when they went down grade they didn't have any brakes, that led
to some Oh Crap experiences, that is why they started posting on
the locos brake and door signs for each hose. Appreciate your watching sir
You may have the easier job but somebody has to do it. LOL.Dave your commentary is awesome.
Thank you Russell, glad you enjoyed sir
@@ccrx6700 Either I was not paying attention or just missed it but I would like to know how long is the rail line.
@@russelltrupia4479 17 miles
@@ccrx6700 Thanks
Love your channel I am a new sub. Very informative.
Thank you Thomas glad you are enjoying the home movies
How do you keep up with all those letters /numbers of locomotives - rail car model numbers - etc? Even the type of railtrack numbers....amazing!
Can tell you've been working the job a long time!
😁👍
Ray, made the suggestion years ago they get me a good looking secretary to help me remember, they gave me instead a note pad and told me to buy my own pen... 😄
@@ccrx6700 Well....H2 pencils work best - easily erasable....and just like th' boss...cheap too!
Ha ha ha!😁👍
Hi Dave I didn’t know that about the one different thing between GP38-2 and SD38-2 was just the trucks are different
That’s interesting!
Those locomotives are kind of old but still working
There were a few minor differences other than the trucks but
nothing major. Got an engineer friend with NS who has ran for
25 years with them. He tells me he would rather run an old GP
than any other loco. Do appreciate your writing in and for
watching the video today my friend.
Well the train had to relieve its gas(air) pressure. Hope it feels better now. 🤣🤣
What is the blue silo for across the tracks?
Great question David. It is our sand tower for holding sand
to put in the locos. Holds about 24 tons. Appreciate your
checking out the video tonight my good man.
Bridge 14 is last bridge in the system...at MP16...Habor Terminal...
Underpasses are numbered accordingly...from Process Terminal to Habor Terminal...
What radio frequencies are you using? 31 and 155MHz and 5 W? I really like these Diesel engines. There is a posibillity for an fire accident if the engine is hit broad side due to the diesel tank is below the body..
we are on 464.200. Always a possibility, we had a near miss on fuel tank bout 10 years ago, a huge rock fell off a rock cut, came within
inches of hitting the fuel tank, we lucked out on that one. all our
locos have fire suppression systems on them and are checked
on a regular basis by Ansil
@@ccrx6700 I look up your railway and there were no crossing lines.You work hard to get the rail in shape again.
@@thomaseriksson6256 we try Thomas, it a never ending battle for only 2 guys, but job security 😉
What is the Door line for on the train?? Do the brakes also work like a semi-truck where they apply when air is lost??
Upper line supplies air to open and close the car doors. Yes sir, when air is lost, brakes are applied. Air brakes on a train are a bit complicated, am hoping to make a future video of how they work
so stay tuned. thank you for watching
Nice interesting
Thank you Daniel, happy to hear you enjoyed.
Do you wear hearing protection when on the job? Since I’d like to enter the rail industry but I’m worried that if I’m near the locomotives I’ll go deaf since I’d need to be able to hear the crew over the radio meaning I’d be subjected to the horn and engine sounds.
Yes sir i do wear ear plugs. These older locos are pretty noisy in the cabs, the newer ones are much much quieter
are there any of the blue hopper cars still active?
Unfortionately Shane they were all scrapped bout 25 years ago.
@@ccrx6700 oh ok. I thought I had seen one or a smaller blue hopper being used to lay ballast a few years ago
@@Kinzua820 oh, okay we still have and use the blue ballast car. All our original hoppers for coal were painted blue and that what i thought you meant 😊
@@ccrx6700 well honestly I thought they were the same so lol. But thank you for clearing it up.
@@Kinzua820 👌
I wish I had started working with the Rail Road when I was young instead of working with and around chemicals and later beating around on a forklift to finish out the 35 years I worked. The Rail Road couldn't be much hotter, dirtier, or dangerous than what I was doing, and I'm sure it pays a lot better. Actually, I don't think the pay would have mattered that much. There's much more important things than money. The things we see when we look back...
Thank you David for the heartfelt comment. Can appreciate the work you did. Working around chemicals is a dangerous occupation. Enjoyed reading your story
Just wondering why you run the locos long nose first?
Hugh, great question, it cause any of our 3 locos coukd get moved into different assigments, dependingbon whether a loco is in for inspection, or has a mechanical problem, so no matter what loco is in lead coming back with loads, its always short hood forward.
Wonder whatever happened to mr peabody and his train🤔
Good question Steve, had forgotten about that show, thanks
for the memories
Like it
Why not put a pad locked derail on also.
As when I worked on 3 phase mainly conveyor motors 415 V 50 Hz in UK, l would un plug the test cable and make sure it was under my foot.
Also it might be worth putting one on the grades or catch points.
There are several TH-cam videos of runaway cars and in the UK several incidents where maintenance crews have had runaway trolleys take off a couple withe fatal crashes.
Accidents/incidents cost more than the injuries or lost lives.
Thanks for the video.
So this locomotive is not an SD 40-2?
This one is a 38-2, we have 2 of them plus an sd 40-2. Thanks for
watching Morgan Ryan
Why not Install on all your Engine's the Spitter Valve that doesn't go that fast Install the slower valve like most Engine's have?
Kenny, excellent point, it sounds like a hit and miss engine on
steroids,,,LOL the loco mechanic installed them and they all
drive you nuts by going so fast, I have no clue why it is constant.
Not in any hurry eh? Always time to do the job safely.
They say all safety rules / labels are done because of incidents. Just like you said, make a mistake once, label it for all time going forward. So is that locomotive engineer still work there? I'm guessing not.
Let’s see now, the coal from the mine is transported to the harbour put in barges and I’m assuming from there to a power plant? which generates electricity and heat which in turn supplies electricity for electric cars, so it doesn’t come from the air it come from a smelly power plant guess we need to let people know about that.
Yes sir you hit the nail on the head there. Thanks for writing in
and for watching the video today ferstuck37
🛠🛠🚂🚂🚂
Step back a bit so we can see the whole loco.
Time to move cars
DO NOT HUMP
*GODDAMNIT*
THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO DO!
Thanks for watching