So grateful they rejected stamina based combat. Those systems can be great, but it would ruin the feeling of being the GOD OF WAR if Kratos got winded after swinging an axe a few times. A great mechanic for one game can be detrimental to another.
22:02 I think this right here is the #1 thing that makes the combat so good for me. The fact that I can cancel animations with dodges and make dodge in the middle of combos and still get the combo finisher is one of the reasons the combat so stylish and satisfying.
Yeah man such a clever way to induce the player's engagement for an NPC through this system. Really subtle way to make me more attached to him through gameplay aswell as narrative.
I am really surprised that recalling the axe was discovered and added as a solution to solve a specific problem. I had assumed that it was a staple idea from the very beginning because considering the viking lore and themes I thought they were trying to remind people of Thor and his ability to recall his hammer.
So cool how detailed all the enemy reactions and animation cancelling are. As a player you only notice that the combat feels incredibly satisfying, but it’s awesome to see all that goes in to making that feel great.
Fabulous and deep content. Amazing lore and pristine gameplay. Your minds are a treasure and I'm grateful you guys pursued this huge endeavor. No reboot or revamp has ever exceeded the previous IMO and this game at least matched the original God of War. Bravo
Dam, I played 60H of that game and just now found out you could launch an enemy and throw the axe at him for an instant kill if he hits a wall wow. Always worth to watch GDC xD
That's kind of weird to be honest, I wouldn't have expected such a UX oriented concept to be the source of knowledge defining something that is so common among action games, which is canceling moves. It's also about reflecting, parrying. You should reward players for reacting fast, and also penalize them should they decide to use something that locks you in place and which you shouldn't therefore use in certain scenarios.
Wow, 15:45 absolutely nails it. I've always loved how the GoW series empowers the player to fight tons of enemies at once and look cool doing it, unlike other more defensive action RPG's that encourage you to separate large groups into 1v1’s. Great talk!
This is nothing new. Devil May Cry started it, not God of War. And this wasn't an "RPG" by any stretch of the imagination. It was a mostly linear action game with "RPG elements" shoehorned in because that's what every single other game was doing at the time.
@@Neonmirrorblack Capcom published GOW in Japan so they may have taken some inspiration from it for DMC3? Remember where DMC was at the time due to 2. But I can't prove that, so it's just speculation on my end. I know they came out like... a month or two apart. I haven't played the OG GOW but I have DMC3.
@@shis1988 Are you serious? Both Devil May Cry 1&2 were released before God of War, and SSM has even admitted that it took heavy "inspiration" from Devil May Cry. Also, God of War was released on March 2005, while Devil May Cry 3 was released February 2005...
@Neonmirrorblack Why you gotta make this all competetive? Theyre great games and in fact, fighting many enemies at once didnt stem from dmc1. It was already way before that. And that aside, the time frame between gow1 and dmc3 was 1 month. realistically speaking, there would have been no shit inspired from dmc3 but only stuff inspired from the previous 2 games. You cannot work on a game and really build it but then in just 1 month, add a shit ton of inspiration from another game and not miss the deadline. Like hell, they were already under pressure for gow1 and didnt manage to add icarus segments (instead adding them in gow2) and they didnt even manage to put a boss guarding the box of pandora which they planned on. In conclusion. Gow1 is inspired by dmc1 and dmc2 but not by dmc3. The timeframe is just too short. But that aside, youre comparing 2 different worlds here. Gow1 and dmc3 can both be played stylish and can both be played efficiently. Yet that doesnt change the fact that they both encourage different things. Gow1 wants you to be smart, dmc3 wants you to be stylish. They even really made it clear after that SE video with the "stylish combat compilation" in the gallery. Gow1 on the other hand is about mastering encounters. Use the petrification system on the bats for extra orbs on "shattered", use the blade of artemis, your damaging tool, on stronger enemies. Use collisions and the orion harpoon for scaling damage on difficulties. Thats just scratching the surface. I really recommend "extreme gameplays" ultimate gow1-3 guide as it goes in depth alot. Im not telling you to watch it in 1 sitting (its almost 5 and a half hours long, a bit more.), but I think just by reading through the time stamps it shows how gow and dmc are different games. Both get simplified by reviews on IGN and bullshit like that but if you spend 1000 hours in each game respectively, you will come to conclusion that both games can get played in this way, yet one way is encouraged more of the other so that you dont get punished or in dmcs case, get a bad rank. If youre not gonna read all that ill just make it short. You are for no reason comparing two differnet games which strive for different gameplay but can be played the same way.
Interesting. Those problems he wanted fixing feel like they are somewhat still in the final product(Maybe not to the same degree that it was during Playtesting). Also 26:22 😂
I loved Gow's combat when it came out. but when dmc 5 my fac action game ever came out it reminded me why I loved gow 3's combat more. self expression is the heart of these games . GOW feels good to play the dance between kratos and the bosses is amazing but the diffrence between my kratos and another guy's kratos is not much especially the gear is the same (which in itself is a problem) . I really hope the next gow gets a better evolution of this combat system instead of some tweaks like the older gow sequels got
Instead of life bars they should let enemies look more damaged the more they get hit, huge ripped wounds, lost limbs, bleeding everywhere, maybe they can somehow feel afraid of you the closer they are to dying? Eventually some enemies might try to flee the fight as well.
Progressively showing damage sounds like a good extra layer, but I'm not sure how easy it would be for most players to distinguish that while taking on a crowd.
Dad of War already felt a lot like a souls game but that Stamina meter would have drawn even more comparison. Thankfully, they scrapped that early on .
@@nursultannazarov8379 he's just being natural, and not everyone is pretty good in front of cameras, if you think this is cringe try watching some tiktok videos
@@allwinissac4924 I don't watch Tiktok videos. They are far beyond cringe. Watching them almost gives me a cancer. Like really how dumb those tiktokers are
Melee combat in games is my thing. Its what I love to play. Ive played everything. The combat in GOW4 is the best melee combat system ever implemented in a video game.
You mean really generic basic combos that tons of games had already implemented before? Plus the camera is pulled back in those games so you can actually see what's going on.
Well, everyone may not agree, but its my opinion. Id be interested to hear what you think is better. Also, if youre not someone who has enough time and skill in gow4, then you're probably not aware of just what all can be done inside this combat system. Watch a GBG video on TH-cam. He shows what a creative player can do with it.
@@SomeUnkindledAsh I think people are aware of what can be done, It's just that other games already did it and possibly better. No hate on GOW 2018, but I think the overall reception is just too much. A solid game but not a masterpiece.
That guy at the end talking about "Give Me a Challenge" (hard difficulty) is incorrect. Yeah, numbers are tweaked for more enemy health, and more enemy damage output... but the biggest difference from normal to hard is the stagger. For example, take Draugrs, the basic enemy in the game. On normal, R1 attacks will flinch them, not allowing them to attack back, every single time. But on hard, they can often eat your R1 and attack you right through it. This forces the player to use the "set up" button, as Jason referred to it earlier. Using R2s on Draugr to bounce them in the air, then you can send them with R1. Take that idea and extrapolate it in some way to every other enemy in the game. That's hard mode... Now very hard, or "Give Me God of War" takes this concept and strengthens enemies even further to the point where they'll almost never flinch from your R1s... not only that, but if you don't keep the pressure on, enemies will power themselves up and become even stronger if you don't kill them as quickly as you can. This guy saying that Hard mode just changes enemy health couldn't be more incorrect.
The god of battle. Every combat game I play I compare to this GoW game. So good and so weighty. Try a few hours of this game then fire up assassins creed origins; the enemies and attacks have no weight or real cause and effect, feels like a early alpha in comparison.
@Magnum Dong I can not understand how you can find GOW's combat fun, so restricting, I feel like a disabled, though I pushed myself to Platinum it in two days and never touched it again.
Best combat in any game I've ever played. GMGOW difficulty is how it was meant to be played, once you get good at it you can go into a room full of enemies and not take a single hit and just absolutely shred everybody and it feels so good. Like DDR with gore lol.
@@deanwilliams433 hyperbole is a thing that exists. I disagree regardless, it just forces you to get good at the combat. All the other difficulties feel like they're holding back. Get good at GMGOW and it's very rewarding. Less sadomasochistic than dark souls. GoW is much more player friendly.
@@deanwilliams433 I didn't like GMGOW much at first either but I watched some tutorial videos from GBG and it really opened my eyes to the combat potential. The gear doesn't matter much once you get good at it, and I haven't found a combat system that compares
i miss the old "press the right button" thing when you were fighting a boss, the moment where you just have to press the same button against baldur is a step back i feel... takes away that litle bit of challange wich wasnt that hard at all but sill you had to be fast
The game ended up being really amazing, but it is still kind of a shame how 99% of the time I am getting very close and personal with Kratos' shoulder pad instead of Kratos himself... It's a weird thing, but they zoomed in the camera because Kratos would get kinda lost in between the monsters, but the monster now are mostly humanoid and the same size as Kratos. So even if the camera was zoomed out, Kratos would not feel exactly smaller than everybody else. I don't think a closer camera necessarily makes you feel more "close and personal" with a character, but it certainly does make you feel like you're literally "close" to them. It's almost like they came up with a solution to a problem that would never happen in the new game.
Bro. I understand you idiots love the new god of war but come on. God of war 1-3 gameplay style and graphics were just fine. I miss the true God of war where he can fly
Glad to see that they decided not to change the "it was really hard to see anything" camera from their initial tests, because the camera for combat was terrible in that game. That's the main reason they had to add the only somewhat functional arrow indicators. It was all because a certain director wanted his game to LOOK like a movie, even though video games are not movies, and trying to force them to be at the cost of gameplay functionality is never good.
Im not quiet certain if soul reaver predated ocarian of time, but one of those invented this style of combat, not dark souls, and most certainly not kingsfield.
It's fairly obvious that Dark Souls was an inspiration. It was huge at the time. GoW aped DMC for almost a decade, and all of a sudden they want to do "deliberate" combat.
It was amazing, my only real problem was that he didn't feel like a "god" of war. He felt like an "incredibly strong man" of war. I feel like Kratos had to labor too hard to kill many of these types of enemies. Sometimes it also felt like the axe just dragged, I get the pause for emphasis but something about it made it seem hard for him.
Enemies are not humans, most are monster weihing several kilos and we can notice how the humanoid monster swing up and down like ragdolls clearly displaying Krato's godlike strength
@@ulrichleukam1068 At times they get flung around at others it's really like he's struggling to power through them. You may disagree but it was something that was apparent to me. You did, however, feel his power when he was in his rage mode or fighting huge monsters, but the smaller humanoid monsters felt like a real chore at times.
hope in GOW rag the combat get less clunky, late game GoW reboot really didn't got me things that got my attention: skills have too long anticipations and no invincibility frames, in the end you don't have time to use 90% of attacks without being interrupted (killed on higher difficulties) enemies animations... did not evolve to this close quarter combat, hard to see projectiles, unblockable lasers, impossible traking on attack animations, no proper anticipation on enemies animations (they just stay still for a time and do an attack, instead of a visible movement) unblockable attacks (you just expect not to die, specially with the wing girls) the boss fights were good, they are unique, but you get like... 3 of then?
Am I the only one dissapointed by this combat? I mean is a good Game sure, but it doesn't feel GOW. it feels kinda souls and last of US blent together. Even Hades feels more GOW than GOW itself
So grateful they rejected stamina based combat. Those systems can be great, but it would ruin the feeling of being the GOD OF WAR if Kratos got winded after swinging an axe a few times.
A great mechanic for one game can be detrimental to another.
yeah cuz kratos is a literal god.
the same god that cannot jump
@@evilbabaroga well he jumps plenty of times in the game. Cry harder 😂
@@evilbabaroga he jumps plenty of times
@@webhead4414 calm down kid he meant he can't jump while in combat which would be great for epic combos just like in god of war 3
22:02 I think this right here is the #1 thing that makes the combat so good for me. The fact that I can cancel animations with dodges and make dodge in the middle of combos and still get the combo finisher is one of the reasons the combat so stylish and satisfying.
how they integrated atreus into the combat is amazing. great job by everyone on the team
There's a GDC talk on how they made Atreus.
Atreus is no doubt the best AI companion ever created in a videogame.
Thanks Taco Bell
Yeah man such a clever way to induce the player's engagement for an NPC through this system. Really subtle way to make me more attached to him through gameplay aswell as narrative.
Did your boss approve this post... it's spot on... but your boss rocks for letting you post undeniable facts.
I am really surprised that recalling the axe was discovered and added as a solution to solve a specific problem. I had assumed that it was a staple idea from the very beginning because considering the viking lore and themes I thought they were trying to remind people of Thor and his ability to recall his hammer.
It HAD to be that they thought of it and said it's already been done to death, then they all agreed, screw it, and to do it anyways.
Please upload the Evolving Combat for God of War Presentation by Mihir Sith as well.
So cool how detailed all the enemy reactions and animation cancelling are. As a player you only notice that the combat feels incredibly satisfying, but it’s awesome to see all that goes in to making that feel great.
Thank You GDC :)))))) Always wanted to see this one. Throwing the axe is as tremendously impressive throwing it the first time as it is the last .
animation canceling in this game took the gameplay to another level
barely ever works when I need it lol. Kratos is always busy when I want to block
Talk about being at the top of your game. On my third playthrough, what the team at Santa Monica achieved is incredible
Fabulous and deep content. Amazing lore and pristine gameplay. Your minds are a treasure and I'm grateful you guys pursued this huge endeavor. No reboot or revamp has ever exceeded the previous IMO and this game at least matched the original God of War.
Bravo
The dude can be a voice actor himself with that voice.
This was great to watch! Love seeing the progression of building the combat. One idea leading to another. True art
Excellent presentation, Jason and the combat team poured their souls into this system and it paid off.
Cancelling animations in fight games is wonderful! Allows for so much innovation!
Really enjoyed this talk. Loved the changes made to GOW and I can't wait to see what's next.
Somebody get this man some water!
Seriously! 😂 I thought I accidentally clicked on an ASMR video.
Mayo! Love your DOOM content, somehow not surprising to see you on GDC content. Cheers!
lol it's you! You should consider doing an interview with Jason. Heck, it might even turn into an entertaining debate.
He is drinking water the whole time. He just gulps and swallows air after every sentence. It’s gross.
Brilliant and thoughtful talk. Thanks.
PS. And fantastic speaker. Very clear and decisive.
I will never look at Kratos in the OG games the same way ever again after seeing the footage post Ballet of Fire.
Oh .... My .....god LOL
Same lol
What a great talk! Thank you so much!
Dam, I played 60H of that game and just now found out you could launch an enemy and throw the axe at him for an instant kill if he hits a wall wow. Always worth to watch GDC xD
20:06 wow! the animation cancel idea was inspired from mobile's UI talk,thats genius!
That's kind of weird to be honest, I wouldn't have expected such a UX oriented concept to be the source of knowledge defining something that is so common among action games, which is canceling moves. It's also about reflecting, parrying. You should reward players for reacting fast, and also penalize them should they decide to use something that locks you in place and which you shouldn't therefore use in certain scenarios.
This was very much needed. Thank you.
Wow, 15:45 absolutely nails it. I've always loved how the GoW series empowers the player to fight tons of enemies at once and look cool doing it, unlike other more defensive action RPG's that encourage you to separate large groups into 1v1’s.
Great talk!
This is nothing new. Devil May Cry started it, not God of War. And this wasn't an "RPG" by any stretch of the imagination. It was a mostly linear action game with "RPG elements" shoehorned in because that's what every single other game was doing at the time.
@@Neonmirrorblack Capcom published GOW in Japan so they may have taken some inspiration from it for DMC3?
Remember where DMC was at the time due to 2. But I can't prove that, so it's just speculation on my end. I know they came out like... a month or two apart.
I haven't played the OG GOW but I have DMC3.
@@shis1988 Are you serious? Both Devil May Cry 1&2 were released before God of War, and SSM has even admitted that it took heavy "inspiration" from Devil May Cry.
Also, God of War was released on March 2005, while Devil May Cry 3 was released February 2005...
@@Neonmirrorblack no one said it was new my guy, idk what u so pressed about..chill
All they said is that the system they made now is great.
@Neonmirrorblack Why you gotta make this all competetive? Theyre great games and in fact, fighting many enemies at once didnt stem from dmc1. It was already way before that. And that aside, the time frame between gow1 and dmc3 was 1 month. realistically speaking, there would have been no shit inspired from dmc3 but only stuff inspired from the previous 2 games. You cannot work on a game and really build it but then in just 1 month, add a shit ton of inspiration from another game and not miss the deadline. Like hell, they were already under pressure for gow1 and didnt manage to add icarus segments (instead adding them in gow2) and they didnt even manage to put a boss guarding the box of pandora which they planned on.
In conclusion. Gow1 is inspired by dmc1 and dmc2 but not by dmc3. The timeframe is just too short.
But that aside, youre comparing 2 different worlds here. Gow1 and dmc3 can both be played stylish and can both be played efficiently. Yet that doesnt change the fact that they both encourage different things. Gow1 wants you to be smart, dmc3 wants you to be stylish. They even really made it clear after that SE video with the "stylish combat compilation" in the gallery.
Gow1 on the other hand is about mastering encounters. Use the petrification system on the bats for extra orbs on "shattered", use the blade of artemis, your damaging tool, on stronger enemies. Use collisions and the orion harpoon for scaling damage on difficulties. Thats just scratching the surface. I really recommend "extreme gameplays" ultimate gow1-3 guide as it goes in depth alot. Im not telling you to watch it in 1 sitting (its almost 5 and a half hours long, a bit more.), but I think just by reading through the time stamps it shows how gow and dmc are different games. Both get simplified by reviews on IGN and bullshit like that but if you spend 1000 hours in each game respectively, you will come to conclusion that both games can get played in this way, yet one way is encouraged more of the other so that you dont get punished or in dmcs case, get a bad rank.
If youre not gonna read all that ill just make it short. You are for no reason comparing two differnet games which strive for different gameplay but can be played the same way.
still some of the best feeling combat ive ever played.
great talk. i love the way they'd revert to the vision when they got lost
Amazing how GDC never disappoints! Awesome talk!
THANK THE GODS, I WAS WAITING FOR THIS!!!
This was so insightful. I love God of war 2018!
amazing stuff, great talk :)
This channel is a hidden gem for up coming developers
Super interesting lecture, thanks for sharing
One of the most unique and fun combat systems in video games.
This is an awesome talk! Jason is dope
Thank you so much
Thank you GDC and SSM! All this makes me want to play the game again. For the 30th time lol
29:50 Had no idea kicking frozen enemies would apply frost to other enemies
Yes! Finally an actually insightful and useful talk on the new God of War! I was startin to lose hope, this is great!
this dude speaks natively in 1.5x, I doesn't have to adjust the speed.
Incredibly good talk
this talk is just a pleasure to watch....and the revelation at 16:38 is just so cool
this team is incredibly clever, i never wanted to play this game before, now that iknow all this i want
Making Artreus unkillable was α brilliant decision.
Most prominent thing in this gdc: "Deliberate".
"Diligent" and "Delicate" words confused me until now but not now they are all "deliberate" for me.
Hey Jason McDonald how can I follow your work on twitter. I loved this presentation
Good presentation from Jason but goddamn that title for the talk is so emblematic of the gameplay we got
awesome!
Interesting. Those problems he wanted fixing feel like they are somewhat still in the final product(Maybe not to the same degree that it was during Playtesting).
Also 26:22 😂
I loved Gow's combat when it came out. but when dmc 5 my fac action game ever came out it reminded me why I loved gow 3's combat more. self expression is the heart of these games . GOW feels good to play the dance between kratos and the bosses is amazing but the diffrence between my kratos and another guy's kratos is not much especially the gear is the same (which in itself is a problem) . I really hope the next gow gets a better evolution of this combat system instead of some tweaks like the older gow sequels got
it's a linear single player action game, not an rpg.
GOW 2018 is an action-adventure game, which is a different genre from action.
@@Potidaon yeah, but gow 3 is an action adventure too, just beacue its an action adventure doesn't mean u can't hold it to a higher standard in action
Lol at 22:40 that’s basically dodge offset from bayonetta. I didn’t know that was in the game.
this guy is awesome
best single player game i have played in the last 10 years.
Brilliant.
Man, I've never played a God of War game, but this really makes me want to get that newest one!
Ragnarok or the 2018 one?
@@introduction1266 The 2018 one, since Ragnarok isn't out yet from what I've looked up.
it's a gem.
Came for the insight.
Stayed for the water bottle ASMR!!!!
I hated that part, haha so gross.
I'll just leave a like before I start. I know it it is gonna be good as soon as I saw "GOW" and "Santa Monica Studios" lol
"i forgot he was even there" describes my approach to atreus for like first half of the game xD
Hey, it's the guy from the trophy!
I love the talk but my god who gave him the ASMR mic?
10/10
Instead of life bars they should let enemies look more damaged the more they get hit, huge ripped wounds, lost limbs, bleeding everywhere, maybe they can somehow feel afraid of you the closer they are to dying? Eventually some enemies might try to flee the fight as well.
Progressively showing damage sounds like a good extra layer, but I'm not sure how easy it would be for most players to distinguish that while taking on a crowd.
*Most fun i had fighting in a 🎮 game*
Dad of War already felt a lot like a souls game but that Stamina meter would have drawn even more comparison. Thankfully, they scrapped that early on .
Dude is a designing genius
So many things to fix
one year to implement camera?
any question : "...?"
him : "yeah yeah so um the question was like..."
this guy is just amazing
Dumb and CRINGE
@@nursultannazarov8379 he's just being natural, and not everyone is pretty good in front of cameras, if you think this is cringe try watching some tiktok videos
@@allwinissac4924 I don't watch Tiktok videos. They are far beyond cringe. Watching them almost gives me a cancer. Like really how dumb those tiktokers are
Wonderful echo chamber 😁
Why are so many of these game dev videos low quality video??? 720p?
Idk why but i feel like the team might have been a bit inspired but Tekken when is see the setup reactions
Melee combat in games is my thing. Its what I love to play. Ive played everything. The combat in GOW4 is the best melee combat system ever implemented in a video game.
You mean really generic basic combos that tons of games had already implemented before? Plus the camera is pulled back in those games so you can actually see what's going on.
You need to play more games bud.
Well, everyone may not agree, but its my opinion. Id be interested to hear what you think is better. Also, if youre not someone who has enough time and skill in gow4, then you're probably not aware of just what all can be done inside this combat system. Watch a GBG video on TH-cam. He shows what a creative player can do with it.
@@SomeUnkindledAsh I think people are aware of what can be done, It's just that other games already did it and possibly better.
No hate on GOW 2018, but I think the overall reception is just too much. A solid game but not a masterpiece.
@@manbat4582 anyone can have an opinion even u ;)
I raw dogged GoW on gmgow and my fucking god i would have suffered so much less if i knew kicking the frozen enemy into the rest would freeze them too
lol this is one of the funniest things I've heard on youtube. 'raw dogged gmgow'. Fuck mate you really went in the deep end.
why only 720P??
46:40
That guy at the end talking about "Give Me a Challenge" (hard difficulty) is incorrect. Yeah, numbers are tweaked for more enemy health, and more enemy damage output... but the biggest difference from normal to hard is the stagger.
For example, take Draugrs, the basic enemy in the game. On normal, R1 attacks will flinch them, not allowing them to attack back, every single time. But on hard, they can often eat your R1 and attack you right through it. This forces the player to use the "set up" button, as Jason referred to it earlier. Using R2s on Draugr to bounce them in the air, then you can send them with R1.
Take that idea and extrapolate it in some way to every other enemy in the game. That's hard mode... Now very hard, or "Give Me God of War" takes this concept and strengthens enemies even further to the point where they'll almost never flinch from your R1s... not only that, but if you don't keep the pressure on, enemies will power themselves up and become even stronger if you don't kill them as quickly as you can.
This guy saying that Hard mode just changes enemy health couldn't be more incorrect.
What determines if they eat the R1 or not?
@@wraithstrikevids If Draugr have started an attack animation, you can't interrupt it with an R1 attack on GMAC or higher.
GoW combat felt quite slow & sluggish to me. He talks about cancels here, but it didn't feel responsive enough.
It's more technical.
its not perfect but it works to some degree.
Watch game breaker god and you will C
The slowness was deliberate.
Is Jason the real God of War? I love everything he's showing... Xbox take notes.
Target Camera off ! Wrong choise !
The god of battle. Every combat game I play I compare to this GoW game. So good and so weighty. Try a few hours of this game then fire up assassins creed origins; the enemies and attacks have no weight or real cause and effect, feels like a early alpha in comparison.
I mean The Assassin's creed franchise always had outdated and uninspired combat. It's not bad but it's very bland and not engaging whatsoever.
if you're interested in robust combat system, I recommend checking out games like Devil May Cry 5 or Streets of Rage 4.
@Magnum Dong I can not understand how you can find GOW's combat fun, so restricting, I feel like a disabled, though I pushed myself to Platinum it in two days and never touched it again.
@Magnum Dong Nah you just shitted all over in my way, now clean it son.
@@edgyboi1995 I mean thats just not true, but alright. Thats just your opinion
I just realized how bad I suck at God of War.
This is great but his mouth noises are driving me crazy
Try speeding up the video
Best combat in any game I've ever played. GMGOW difficulty is how it was meant to be played, once you get good at it you can go into a room full of enemies and not take a single hit and just absolutely shred everybody and it feels so good. Like DDR with gore lol.
GMGOW is not how it's meant to be played lol that's just for sadomasochistic people.
@@deanwilliams433 hyperbole is a thing that exists. I disagree regardless, it just forces you to get good at the combat. All the other difficulties feel like they're holding back. Get good at GMGOW and it's very rewarding. Less sadomasochistic than dark souls. GoW is much more player friendly.
@@la9425 I might have to give it another shot. It's been a year since I played it.
@@deanwilliams433 I didn't like GMGOW much at first either but I watched some tutorial videos from GBG and it really opened my eyes to the combat potential. The gear doesn't matter much once you get good at it, and I haven't found a combat system that compares
same here i played all souls games GOW and dmc combat are a workof art
i miss the old "press the right button" thing when you were fighting a boss, the moment where you just have to press the same button against baldur is a step back i feel... takes away that litle bit of challange wich wasnt that hard at all but sill you had to be fast
Deliberate deliberately Deliberate deliberately Deliberate deliberately Deliberate deliberately DeLiBeRaTeLy
you solved the main problem with this game by just pulling away the camera and you decided to not do that
5 years of development, everyone
God of War 3 Was the best God of War game.
god of war destruction but god of war 4 is not a destruction at all
Have a sip of water brutha
The game ended up being really amazing, but it is still kind of a shame how 99% of the time I am getting very close and personal with Kratos' shoulder pad instead of Kratos himself...
It's a weird thing, but they zoomed in the camera because Kratos would get kinda lost in between the monsters, but the monster now are mostly humanoid and the same size as Kratos. So even if the camera was zoomed out, Kratos would not feel exactly smaller than everybody else. I don't think a closer camera necessarily makes you feel more "close and personal" with a character, but it certainly does make you feel like you're literally "close" to them. It's almost like they came up with a solution to a problem that would never happen in the new game.
This game is cool but never in the world feels like god of war.
Bro. I understand you idiots love the new god of war but come on. God of war 1-3 gameplay style and graphics were just fine. I miss the true God of war where he can fly
Glad to see that they decided not to change the "it was really hard to see anything" camera from their initial tests, because the camera for combat was terrible in that game. That's the main reason they had to add the only somewhat functional arrow indicators. It was all because a certain director wanted his game to LOOK like a movie, even though video games are not movies, and trying to force them to be at the cost of gameplay functionality is never good.
Not a single word about Dark Souls and soulslike genre, even though they've clearly taken a LOT of mechanics from it.
Like what lol?
Im not quiet certain if soul reaver predated ocarian of time, but one of those invented this style of combat, not dark souls, and most certainly not kingsfield.
It's fairly obvious that Dark Souls was an inspiration. It was huge at the time. GoW aped DMC for almost a decade, and all of a sudden they want to do "deliberate" combat.
It was amazing, my only real problem was that he didn't feel like a "god" of war. He felt like an "incredibly strong man" of war. I feel like Kratos had to labor too hard to kill many of these types of enemies. Sometimes it also felt like the axe just dragged, I get the pause for emphasis but something about it made it seem hard for him.
Enemies are not humans, most are monster weihing several kilos and we can notice how the humanoid monster swing up and down like ragdolls clearly displaying Krato's godlike strength
@@ulrichleukam1068 At times they get flung around at others it's really like he's struggling to power through them. You may disagree but it was something that was apparent to me. You did, however, feel his power when he was in his rage mode or fighting huge monsters, but the smaller humanoid monsters felt like a real chore at times.
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I could see that: I'm honestly kinda torn about the game's level up system.
hope in GOW rag the combat get less clunky, late game GoW reboot really didn't got me
things that got my attention:
skills have too long anticipations and no invincibility frames, in the end you don't have time to use 90% of attacks without being interrupted (killed on higher difficulties)
enemies animations... did not evolve to this close quarter combat, hard to see projectiles, unblockable lasers, impossible traking on attack animations, no proper anticipation on enemies animations (they just stay still for a time and do an attack, instead of a visible movement)
unblockable attacks (you just expect not to die, specially with the wing girls)
the boss fights were good, they are unique, but you get like... 3 of then?
Am I the only one dissapointed by this combat? I mean is a good Game sure, but it doesn't feel GOW. it feels kinda souls and last of US blent together.
Even Hades feels more GOW than GOW itself
Wait to go...
Wait to make a worse combat system than prior games.
I still hate the camera and the combat. Gow3 is better.
The combat system is shit compared to 3
God of War 3 combat was much better