Loved the Max Biaggi reference. Biaggi in red, Rossi in yellow, lime green and blue, for years and years, was memorable, even to a huge Formula 1 fan, who tended to only have Moto GP on in the background.
Goff is going to surprise you this year. Yes, on paper the receivers aren't great but watch.. PA offense with all that speed at receiver will make for some big plays and St. Brown is going to have an excellent rookie year
The other aspect of this rebuild strategy that wasn't mentioned is the correlation between instant impact, win totals, and draft position. Building from the trenches keeps your ability to draft higher in tact since they take longer to develop. If the Lions focused on skill positions first, they may increase their win total by 1 or 2 and decrease their draft position, making it harder to draft top trench talent.
@64, been a Lion's fan since 10 😥. Now there is a plan. Lions couldn't run to the right side, if at all. Now, w/Sewell u balance the run (r & l) & pass. On D, Lions were passive containment & DBs were crucified. Now you bolster the interior D (Brockers, McNeil, Levi) to stop the run, stand up Flowers & Romeo, & u have an ATTACKING front line. Compare Lions D to NO (esp Lions vs NO in 2017). They will surprise many this season I think! 🤔 Sheila's rebuild began 1st in the administrative offices and then outward! 👍🏿
@@nh7382 See...here is what I dont get. If fatty P & his D was the worst in team history, but they still managed to win 5 games then🤔... jus' sayin' 🤷🏿♂️
@@theronin9984 I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. Most so called experts are predicting only 3 wins. PFF rates them as the worst team in the NFL. Campbell will be long gone before they turn around. On a positive note ... Sewell was the smart way to go on draft day.
Sewell has never blocked a NFL caliber player, moron. That may have very well been a totally wasted pick on a bust blocker. While I do think the Lions upgraded at QB with a QB who can actually win playoff games, they got rid of all their receivers in a signal that they aren't really trying to win.
@@footballrealitycheck9927 So I'm a moron because YOU don't agree with MY OPINION? WOW! It's an opinion dude. As for opinions there is no way in hell Goff is an upgrade over Stafford! Stafford will light up the NFL this year with the Rams ... people are saying he is actually a "darkhorse" MVP candidate.
I think the Lions could be an awkward team to beat this year, and ironically, that Goff could have a decent season behind a great O Line, while Stafford might struggle behind an aging and declining line...
we didnt take a wide out this season so if we go 3-14 this season we will again pick in top 5 in coming draft. plus another first round draft from rams.
The receiver take is just a lazy take, if you’re a play action heavy offense which the lions will be allah the 49ers of a couple of years ago or Washington with cousins, having a true number one isn’t necessary right away. If the the oline is top 10 and having a tandem of swift and Williams you’re talking what goff has to attempt 20-25 passes a game and if he can complete what 67%-70% and the defense isn’t the worse defense in football like it’s been the last two years you’re gonna have at least 5-6 win team that will not be the worst football team like u guys keep assuming they will be.
We can grab a receiver rn N’keal Harry at big slot with that 4.5 speed and his hands he could cause problems with the speed help he would have on the outside cuz u cant leave Perriman 1-on1 or Tyrell Williams
I think it’s sort of deliberate. My hypothesis is that they took guys who were likely to be better at their position, which happened to be mainly trench guys.
Kinda hard to listen to this guy, trying to determine whose a HoFer and saying if Dan Campbell is building his line off old school football, he's an idiot but if he's using analytics, he's fine
The model for building in the trenches (specifically the Offensive side of the trenches) is Dallas, and we have seen how that has worked out for them, so... No not genius by itself. Just a way to do it. Now if they focus on QB and building the secondary and D Line depth next year than yes. If your just building O line and depth over and over every year, that's quite useless.
Dudes Goff take was hilariously bad. “We learn nothing about Goff unless he turns into joe Montana” wtf is that. If he’s pretty good with a shitty receiving core than you consider keeping him around. This isn’t hard
2019 49ers point out the True Number #1 receiver dont tell me u need a true number 1 to win Emmanuel Sanders was past his prime still effective but a great #2 deebo basically plays RB/WR, Kendrick bourne i mean cmon now, they’re number 1 receiving threat was a Te and Hockenson is gonna explode run game, play action, Screens, defense, and Goff who is a more than capable Qb with all the experience will get you far
The Lions picked best player available. EVERY guy they picked, they did not expect them to be there and they stuck out like a sore thumb at the top of their draft board. Campbell and Holmes were in heaven at the completion of the draft. There was no conscience strategy nor is there a mentality that they are going to just win in the trenches. Detroit is looking for fast, talented players at all positions with a football players mentality. Don't underestimate Detroit's passing game. They also have Swift and Williams who will also contribute to the passing game. And Amon-Ra St. Johns will be their leading WR in the slot. Tyrell Williams is a legit #2. Hockensen is an awesome target at TE and Fells is a touchdown machine. Detroit is missing that WR#1. Their offense will be mid-tier.
@@frankyi8206 He was just as good at both, dummy. The chances of scoring on a punt and getting a chance to return it at all is simply greater on punts. Besides, when we talk about return specialists, it includes both kickoff and punt returners. It's silly to distinguish between the two although the latest new rules have basically eliminated kickoff returns.
I love Frank but he played on bad teams who ran the ball over and over and over. I'd say at his peak he was definitely above average tho. He just didnt have that extra gear to break away after he ran a guy over.
@@Biz613 off the top of my head Jim Kelly/Aikman Russell Wilson when he makes it. I can easily look it up. Also in 2006 Gore was 3rd in rushing and 2nd in average
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Loved the Max Biaggi reference. Biaggi in red, Rossi in yellow, lime green and blue, for years and years, was memorable, even to a huge Formula 1 fan, who tended to only have Moto GP on in the background.
Goff is going to surprise you this year. Yes, on paper the receivers aren't great but watch.. PA offense with all that speed at receiver will make for some big plays and St. Brown is going to have an excellent rookie year
Lol
😂
Yeah sure
Y'all laugh now lol but the running game and offensive line is going to make Goff's life a lot easier than people think
@@k_f_m94 lol
Idk about anyone else but I would certainly pay to see Steve jump through a table
St. Brown will be the new Kuup. Keep in mind both these guys liked the Patricia/Quinn
The other aspect of this rebuild strategy that wasn't mentioned is the correlation between instant impact, win totals, and draft position. Building from the trenches keeps your ability to draft higher in tact since they take longer to develop. If the Lions focused on skill positions first, they may increase their win total by 1 or 2 and decrease their draft position, making it harder to draft top trench talent.
@64, been a Lion's fan since 10 😥. Now there is a plan. Lions couldn't run to the right side, if at all. Now, w/Sewell u balance the run (r & l) & pass. On D, Lions were passive containment & DBs were crucified. Now you bolster the interior D (Brockers, McNeil, Levi) to stop the run, stand up Flowers & Romeo, & u have an ATTACKING front line. Compare Lions D to NO (esp Lions vs NO in 2017). They will surprise many this season I think! 🤔 Sheila's rebuild began 1st in the administrative offices and then outward! 👍🏿
Ronin ... the Lions win 5 games at best!
@@nh7382 See...here is what I dont get. If fatty P & his D was the worst in team history, but they still managed to win 5 games then🤔... jus' sayin' 🤷🏿♂️
@@theronin9984 I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. Most so called experts are predicting only 3 wins. PFF rates them as the worst team in the NFL. Campbell will be long gone before they turn around. On a positive note ... Sewell was the smart way to go on draft day.
Sewell has never blocked a NFL caliber player, moron. That may have very well been a totally wasted pick on a bust blocker. While I do think the Lions upgraded at QB with a QB who can actually win playoff games, they got rid of all their receivers in a signal that they aren't really trying to win.
@@footballrealitycheck9927 So I'm a moron because YOU don't agree with MY OPINION? WOW! It's an opinion dude. As for opinions there is no way in hell Goff is an upgrade over Stafford! Stafford will light up the NFL this year with the Rams ... people are saying he is actually a "darkhorse" MVP candidate.
I think the Lions could be an awkward team to beat this year, and ironically, that Goff could have a decent season behind a great O Line, while Stafford might struggle behind an aging and declining line...
we didnt take a wide out this season so if we go 3-14 this season we will again pick in top 5 in coming draft. plus another first round draft from rams.
Come on guys Dan Campbell came right out and said during one of his interviews you have to build from the outside in, in today's NFL!!
He didn't say that.
It was the assistant to the President that said it.
The receiver take is just a lazy take, if you’re a play action heavy offense which the lions will be allah the 49ers of a couple of years ago or Washington with cousins, having a true number one isn’t necessary right away. If the the oline is top 10 and having a tandem of swift and Williams you’re talking what goff has to attempt 20-25 passes a game and if he can complete what 67%-70% and the defense isn’t the worse defense in football like it’s been the last two years you’re gonna have at least 5-6 win team that will not be the worst football team like u guys keep assuming they will be.
Well... Goff does wear the same number as Montana.
We can grab a receiver rn N’keal Harry at big slot with that 4.5 speed and his hands he could cause problems with the speed help he would have on the outside cuz u cant leave Perriman 1-on1 or Tyrell Williams
I think it’s sort of deliberate. My hypothesis is that they took guys who were likely to be better at their position, which happened to be mainly trench guys.
The probs w/the Lions really were in the trenches!! Patty's idea of a 3 man rush/no blitz was both infuriating & absurd!
Guys like you will make it easy for Goff, compare stats to all your favorite QBs first 5 years……surprise MFers !!
Kinda hard to listen to this guy, trying to determine whose a HoFer and saying if Dan Campbell is building his line off old school football, he's an idiot but if he's using analytics, he's fine
Yup!!
The model for building in the trenches (specifically the Offensive side of the trenches) is Dallas, and we have seen how that has worked out for them, so...
No not genius by itself. Just a way to do it. Now if they focus on QB and building the secondary and D Line depth next year than yes.
If your just building O line and depth over and over every year, that's quite useless.
Dudes Goff take was hilariously bad. “We learn nothing about Goff unless he turns into joe Montana” wtf is that. If he’s pretty good with a shitty receiving core than you consider keeping him around. This isn’t hard
2019 49ers point out the True Number #1 receiver dont tell me u need a true number 1 to win Emmanuel Sanders was past his prime still effective but a great #2 deebo basically plays RB/WR, Kendrick bourne i mean cmon now, they’re number 1 receiving threat was a Te and Hockenson is gonna explode run game, play action, Screens, defense, and Goff who is a more than capable Qb with all the experience will get you far
The Lions picked best player available. EVERY guy they picked, they did not expect them to be there and they stuck out like a sore thumb at the top of their draft board. Campbell and Holmes were in heaven at the completion of the draft. There was no conscience strategy nor is there a mentality that they are going to just win in the trenches. Detroit is looking for fast, talented players at all positions with a football players mentality. Don't underestimate Detroit's passing game. They also have Swift and Williams who will also contribute to the passing game. And Amon-Ra St. Johns will be their leading WR in the slot. Tyrell Williams is a legit #2. Hockensen is an awesome target at TE and Fells is a touchdown machine. Detroit is missing that WR#1. Their offense will be mid-tier.
As long as the receiver is wide open and there aren't any tall pass rushers in Golf's field of vision the Lions pass game will have success.
@@sdfishinn no potential with Goff ..
@@sdfishinn yeah bc Lynn really held Herbert back last year
How does he rattle off all of the pass catching options the lions have, and not even mention TJ Hockenson or Dandre Swift?!? Come on man.
Suh, Atkins and Houston are Hall of famers 🙃🙃
Would love to hear sams take on bo jackson and sean taylor being in the HOF. I think they should be.
Devin Hester wasn’t a good kick returner? He was a really good kick returner just not as good as Patterson
Hester did most of his damage as a punt returner. The SB return sticks out in people's minds, but Patterson was much better on kickoffs.
@@frankyi8206 bruh did u not even read my comment
Stop
@@frankyi8206 He was just as good at both, dummy. The chances of scoring on a punt and getting a chance to return it at all is simply greater on punts. Besides, when we talk about return specialists, it includes both kickoff and punt returners. It's silly to distinguish between the two although the latest new rules have basically eliminated kickoff returns.
Asking the Lions was this a conscience effect? Lol
Best one I saw was a comment that said combine drills
Lorenzo Neal
Frank gore was a 5x pro bowler and 9 seasons over 1000 yards. To call him average, is exactly why NFL players make fun of pff
I love Frank but he played on bad teams who ran the ball over and over and over. I'd say at his peak he was definitely above average tho. He just didnt have that extra gear to break away after he ran a guy over.
@@brobsty1856 2011 on in San Fran they were great and he had at least 1,100 yards every year
Again i love Frank he belongs on the ring of honor right next to Staley.
@@brobsty1856 🧢
Listening to Sam have his monthly argument to his self about Frank Gore is excruciating... find a new topic bro
Frank Gore is DEFINITELY not a Hall of Famer 😂 don’t even have to think about it
@cat tiger did I stutter? Frank Gore was NEVER a top 3 back in the league in any of the seasons he played. Sorry.
@@Biz613 do you want a list of players that were never top 3 at there position. He's an obvious hall of famer
@@mactallica9293 yes. Give me a Hall of Famer who was never top 3 at his position in any season 🤨
@@Biz613 Bradshaw. Didn't deserve mvp or first team in 78 and was never even close any other year
@@Biz613 off the top of my head Jim Kelly/Aikman Russell Wilson when he makes it. I can easily look it up. Also in 2006 Gore was 3rd in rushing and 2nd in average
“Pat McAfee” and “ideas” don’t belong together in the same sentence.
I mean he built up one of the biggest sports media companies by himself
7 1/2 minutes of nothing, again. Gone.
Lions? Geniuses? WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?!
They are finally getting their shit together under a new owner
Chit changing
My money is on it being a meathead thing and not a genius thing. Boomer ball in Detroit.
God your intro is the worst. That's advertising from western financial