Should Tua Tagovailoa be DONE After Another Concussion? Doctor Reacts
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- Miami Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagolailoa is back in the NFL concussion protocol. Should he be allowed to play again this season?
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I feel so bad for Tua. I have had lots of concussions (I'm tall, clumsy, and have very little peripheral vision) I always took a very lackadaisical approach and mindset because I always recovered within a few weeks and didn't have lasting issues. . . Until I did. I received a severe concussion about 6 months ago and am still recovering. I'm working with a neurologist who has informed me that I will never recover 100% I've done 2 MRIs and they have found significant damage. The areas I'm seeing the biggest problems are memory, word recall, brain fog, and mood instability. I really hope someone sits Tua down and helps him understand the importance of protecting his head. People tried to do that with me, but I wouldn't listen. It's unfortunate that I ended up with permanent brain damage to make me recognize the severity of concussions.
how'd u get so many concussions? jw
@Tom West I'm super clumsy and accident prone. I have poor eyesight with very limited peripheral vision and almost no depth perception. I have run full speed into tree branches, rear hatches on our minivan, I stood up really fast and hit the back of my head on the counter (I was mad I was told to do the dishes and was trying to get them done as quickly as possible and dropped a spoon) I got kicked in the head during a soccer game, 3 car accidents, ran full speed into a low beam under a bridge, got hit in the head with a baseball bat. Those are just some of the ones I remember. At one point I'd counted more than 10 times I'd hit my head hard enough to lose consciousness. I've had several since then so I'd guess 15-20. Not really sure anymore.
@Nick damn bro praying you don’t have cte
@Nick Damn bro, hoping you get better from that severe concussion🙏🏾
Edit: What does being unconscious feel like? Is it like going to sleep? Does the light in your eyes just go dark?
He always falls in a way that results in his head taking all the impact. Never braces for it, just let's it happen. Hands were always to his side and always landing on his back letting his head slam off the turf. Been doing that since he played at bama.
That was my thought, he's gotta learn to accept that he's going down sooner and brace for impact rather than fight it till the last instant.
I said this too he not athletic he dont know how to fall if getting tackled
Exactly, he is always falling and turns his back to the ground
@Young_loose did you just call an NFL QB not atheltic? 🤣
I would agree that it would make a lot of sense for both him and his team to be better prepared for such a situation as him getting pulled down hard to the ground like he has been these three times, but on the other hand it's not as easy as you make it seem to be.
I hope for his safety he realizes what’s at stake. Who knows, if he takes another bad shot this season, the next one could be career ending.
Life
Former Cowboy running back Tony Dorsett has significant neurological issues
today due to multiple concussions sustained during his playing days. Think
long and hard Tua.
Or worse.
@James Ryan he won't Tua is hardheaded l. He's just another RG3 wanting to prove ppl wrong yet they were what we all thought not good enough to play in the nfl
If I was him I would think long and hard about straight up retirement. Luke Kuechly retired after having 3 in a year. We have seen the long term effects of repeated injuries to the head.
He will want money
@James McDougal Teel him that, rookie contract, nothing ro fall back on.
@US2A_ARMS He's made tens of millions, he's set for life.
@JayTac1 depends on the life he wants lol
I’ve noticed more of those helmet to turf concussions this year than ever. It’s insane to see it so frequently. Maybe they should bring back the neck guard or something, something that protrudes up from the back of the shoulderpads so that when the back of the helmet hits the ground there is some kind of padding there. I’m not sure why it’s become so prevalent this season though. Maybe it’s always been this common and it seems to be happening more because there’s a larger spotlight on concussion protocol and safety?
I know only being in his 3rd year and being 24 makes it hard to think you should hang it up but it should be in consideration at the very least. Unfortunately around that age you feel invincible, especially when you're an athlete with money. I just hope that Tua is mature enough to make a decision that hopefully he won't regret. Get well!
This reminds me of Jordan Reed. He had 7 concussions total in his college and nfl career, and 4 of those were in the nfl. His last concussion put him in protocol for 5+ months, where he retired shortly after being cleared. Usually 4 “diagnosed” concussions in a high-school Or collegiate career is enough to force someone to retire early. Very curious where this situation will lead. As an Athletic training student, typically we’d treat this as his “third” concussion and therefore hold him out for rest of season. His return to play process would also be drawn out for longer and he’d ofc have to be cleared by a doctor.
Is that what happened to Jordan Reed? I wondered if that was the reason b/c I know he had a history with that. Good player, too bad about the head trauma 🙁
I remember seeing the play even though there wasn't much emphasis on him slamming his head on the turf. My thinking is he's suffered way too much trauma in such a short time. I'm more concerned about his heath after football than if he plays football ever again. I know a football player wants to play football but I also hope that he has the support system that is just concerned for his health as I am.
You remember.....what play? They don't even know!
He had 2 concussions in like 5 days earlier in the year and now thos one.
Do u really care? Kenny Pickett has missed 1 full game after being put into concussion protocol 3 times this season and was diagnosed with 1! Mitch Morse has 6 documented concussions in his 8 year career and just had his last 1 2 weeks ago. Welker had 3 in 10 months with Denver at least 2 with the patriots and 1 with Miami that I can remember.. Favre had 3 documented but said he thinks he's had close to 1,000 in his career but really doesn't know.. that's how common concussions are in the nfl and in contact sports in general.. Cameron Brate multiple concussions over the last 2 years.. Donald Parham was shaking when he went out with a concussion vs kc and was out for most of the year last year then got another 1 this year in week 6 and was back in the lineup 2 weeks later.. not a peep.. Darius Leonard was put in protocols 2 games back to back this year and was diagnosed with 1 and has been out with a neck injury all year. those are just a few examples.. there has been 125 documented concussions this year in the nfl...it amazes me how many people "care" so much about Tua's concussions but don't mention a peep about anyone else's.. it's because he's a polarizing figure whether u like him or not and this guy's been praised and/or criticized by almost everyone in the media and by fans.. this started.way before the concussion happened.. if he farted people will wonder how it smelled.. not 1 media person brings up anyone else's concussion issues and it's because nobody wants to hear about buffalo's center, or the bucs 2nd string tight end.. who cares about a rookie in Pittsburgh.. trust me if every player's concussions were treated or spotlighted the way Tua's has this year..the the nfl probably wouldn't exist.. they pick and choose who to profile on these shows cause it gets them views and clicks which brings in money.. same people calling him trash say they care about his well being, his life and future.. I'm not singling you out personally cause I don't know you.. but all the people coming out of the woodworks I had to speak my peace.. sorry if it felt like I was coming after you.. that wasn't my intent
Some people just fall in the worst way possible and Tua seems to always find a way to have his head smack hard first
Someone else mentioned it and nailed it - he falls like a toddler
I'm a big fan of the way Kyler Murray takes sacks. Covers up the ball and curls up into the ground to brace for the hit. Sure you miss out on opportunities to extend certain plays but you avoid taking big hits and/or fumbling
Tom Brady mastered taking hits after his knee injury. You never see him fall weird or take big hits to the head, or bang his head on the ground. It's crazy that more people don't take time for this.
@dash4800 that’s something I never thought about. I feel like I’ve never seen Brady take a bad fall
He should watch some clips of Matt Ryan getting sack since there's plenty of them
1) he lands the same way each time on the back of his head 😢
2) Wes is on the staff so should (hopefully will) voice his opinion to help Tua
3) I hope Tua advocates for himself and stays safe (as he can)
You talking about Wes welker he mentioned recently that NFL doesn't do much for players
@Mario Uvalle that’s not surprising at all. But that’s why I’m hoping Wes himself will.
We all know he shouldn’t return this season but we all know he will return
Will he?
Man threw 3 picks really really bad ones. Hope he heals up. 🙏🏽 Hope he takes into consideration what's potentially at stake.
He even came out somewhere saying he called the wrong play and it's threw him off on one of those picks
I hope next season he does better and hope that he says here for one more season because imo I don’t think he’s going anywhere at all
Really like the insight. I think this one is on the staff as a whole since it is known that symptoms can be delayed. It comes across to me as prioritizing the sport over a player's health. Green Bay Packer player John Miont(?) took a helmet to helmet hit when he played in the 1970s. Doctors told him his choices on the next hit were paralysis or death. He chose to retire once cleared. He worked at the sports desk for Green Bay's Channel 11.
I was heartbroken when Steve Young chose to retire, against all his competitive instincts, because of his his history with concussions. He worked so hard and was such a great QB sitting on the bench for years behind Joe Montana, then he got out there and blazed like a star - like Jim Brown or Barry Sanders - and then in about a decade it was over. His numbers and his greatness still put him rightfully in the Hall. But even though it broke my heart to think “what if?”….I know 💯 he made the right decision. Football is a game. Life is far more precious. I wish the best for Tua and strongly feel he should not return this season.
It still scares me that he dolphins refuse to recognize the first concussion
agree,,,i can barely remember the one (of 3),,, that i got. One second your up doing your normal things,,, then your on the ground... my daughter was downstairs and heard the fall. she was yelling upstairs are you alright,,are you alright. (it doesn't register) So, it's really up to the observers to do their job. Which is transport you to a hospital asap, and keep your head very still.
Agree - it's one thing to make such an egregious mistake to begin with, but to continue to double down on that mistake (i.e. pretending not to see the overtly obvious signs of concussion in that first impact to the back of his head) is outrageous and disgusting.
Why would they? The league won't do it so they won't.
@dcard228 because it's the humane thing to do. Shoving someone's short and long term health to the side because you're playing a game for lots of money should be unacceptable.
@dcard228 so what if the league doesn't ? It's not as if the league has a great record regarding players health and welfare
My little cousin had 3 concussions all before the age of 17 playing football and flag football. My uncle decided he needed to step away from athletics to save his life.
Reminds me of my boy Steve Young. People forget how many concussions he had his last two seasons and how big a factor that was in his decision to retire.
Hey Dr Sutterer. Wondering if you saw the Josh Wells injury in the Bucs game. He suffered a torn left patellar tendon and as soon as it happened I recognized what it was from watching this channel. You could clearly see that his knee cap wasn't where it was supposed to be anymore. Love the coverage as always!
Not a lot of people understand head injuries these days, here in Mexico happens with Gignac, he recieved a hit with the ball in the head and wanted to puke but nobody did nothing, the same with boxers that die, it would be great if you could explain that please Dr, my admiration and respect to you 🙏
A consideration I didn’t hear or see in comments is the fact it’s easier to get concussions the more you have and the less time between each one. Meaning, Tua is not only at higher risk for long term damage by having more concussions, but he’s also at higher risk to have more concussions since he’s had a t least two in 3 months. If it takes many months to recover from TBI and stroke, it seems no way would brain heal from multiple concussions in a couple months. Tua should shelve himself until next season so his brain can heal, work on ways to avoid hits in off season, or just retire. There is no shame in that.
Sad for tua just wanted him to continue proving the haters and doubters wrong but if he can’t play his health is most important. Hopefully everything works out
Sidney Crosby lost a whole season due to concussion symptoms that wouldn't go away. Only Tua knows whether he has ongoing symptoms and he needs to take care of himself. It's easy to "fake" normalcy after some concussions. I had a bad one that gave me symptoms for a couple years...still went to school, work etc but suffered periodic bouts of dizziness, vision issues and vomiting that were exacerbated if I didn't rest during said bouts. Less was known about concussions back then.
I took two concussive blows within 1 hour then took 1 more the next day because I had delayed symptoms. Now 29 months later I still feel it every day
Crazy! Reminds me of TJ Grant, mma fighter who was training for a title fight in 2013, got concussed in training and had symptoms and long term effects that forced him to retire.. never saw the cage again.
Don't forget that training partner of Dillashaw, Holdsworth who said that he had to retire because of rough sparring in the gym
@spakjoeXD it wasn't exactly rough sparring, they were supposed to be wrestling and TJ got heated that he wasn't doing as good as he wanted so he blasted Chris in the back of the head with a knee..... literally should be in prison for assault but Chris would never press charges and because it happened in a gym he may not even have a case
That ATM withdrawal an unknown account balance amount is a great analogy. It seems there is a variance from person to person. Some brains may recover better from it than others.
There needs to be more long-term study on this in sports medicine
I’ve heard there’s an “unofficial rule” by doctors that says 3 concussions and you gotta retire. That’s what happened to Wes Welker
Yeah you are right. Usually it’s 3-4 diagnosed concussions in a span of 4 years give or take. ( high school career or college career”) however, not all medical personnel force you to retire, some may just advise against playing. If you have more than 4 concussions generally you will get questioned very hard about returning to play, side effects , history etc.
I think it 3 to 4 where you're knocked unconscious. That's what Staubach was saying. He had 5 or 6 ones where he was KOd
Wrong there are many NFL players who’s had more than 4-5 concussions playing today, Two players from the Steelers has had 2 or more concussions and 1 has had 3 concussions in the last year or so, think the TE
I've had several concussions playing youth and high school, and semi-pro football. After getting my bell rung and seeing double, and being unable to focus my eyes for 45 seconds, I retired. The brain is the essential organ, in my opinion. Once you are officially brain-dead, you are usually pulled from the ventilator. Tua has decided on if he wants to live a long life or a shorter life with pain and memory loss, and cognitive deficits for life.
Maybe it's because of players seeing what happened with Tua in Cincy, but it feels like way too many players have had to self-report all season long. The protocol and spotting are a damn joke. :(
I find the Tua situation extremely interesting, especially when you consider all the steps the NFL put in place to protects the QB. In this way, the league should have additional policies and procedures that prevents someone in Tua's position from returning this season.
We should prevent someone like tua who isnt athletic to play in the nfl. This the big man sport this isnt soccer or anything weak.
As a Jets fan, I’m still in awe that Chrebet received a forced retirement at 32 after his 6th or 7th concussion. He played whether healthy or not. Jets fans luuuuved him cuz a WR that’s only 5’10” 160lb had to prove he was good enuff for the league. He was a beast on the field, putting 150% effort in every game. He got his bell rung way too many times - enuff that the risk was getting too high for him to continue playing. He’s fortunate cuz he was able to retire without any significant and/or negative long term side effects.
Wes Welker is the Dolphins Wide Receivers coach. I wonder if he’s spoken to Tua.
Earlier this year when he had his hands all jacked from that concussion I said it’s time for him to retire. I still feel the same way. This young man is playing with fire right now and has already had a 1st and now 2nd degree burn. Why wait for the 3rd degree
Tua is an injury magnet. It's a shame. I hope he's able to recover and continue doing what he loves.
I think one of the reasons we are seeing more concussions is not because more are happening, but we now recognize the symptoms better, and we are thinking more about the effects a concussion can cause in the future.
What I am curious about is what is happening in the brain that causes posturing. Also, is posturing a sure sign of a concussion, or can posturing occur, and there not be a concussion? 🇨🇦
Tua been getting drilled this season , and honestly ever since he started playing in the NFL . Last year the hits he took this year the hits . That game against the Texans he got hit 6 straight times . The charger game he got hit by a DT and LB from each side . It's just the way he just hit , and fall . I don't think anyone can take those hits in a career let alone a season, or in 1 game . Pretty brutal feel really bad for Tua. Huge fan, and it hurts because he Miami only hope but he might have to walk away.
What a brutal sport. I hope he’s okay. Great video.
Thank you biggie we do too
This is the big boys league. If you aint athletic you should not play football. They can play soccer instead.
It’s crazy how nfl players and pundits don’t take a concussion nearly as serious as they should
if they don't nfl is gonna lose a lot of money
Players are signed and contracted to play. They dont have mich choice unless they want to waive their career security goodbye. Also black quarterbacks are more likely to not get a flag for roughing the passer. It happened all the time with cam newton too.
@Wak I think NFL players want to play regardless of what their bodies say/what is in their own best interest. The medical staff needs to be unbiased and the NFL needs to do a much better job at taking concussions seriously. It’s 2022 and the Madden video game series is STILL not allowed to have head injuries in their games because the NFL wants to minimize awareness of concussions. This is likely because they are very aware of how serious they are.
@Dana Elona be an adult and have adult conversation or move along. Nobody is talking about racism in regards to concussions, but here you are needing as much attention as you can get. Grow up
@Andrew Ishikawa its true maybe u should look it up. Maybe u should grow up and realize the reality many live in.
I'm probably the biggest tua fan in all of Saskatchewan. Love the guy, would love to see him take this team through the playoffs, BUT, his health is far more important. I think he can still play football but he needs to be done for this season and maybe some or all of next considering the multiple concussions. He needs to make sure he feels safe continuing after that, and what he can do to prevent things like this. Hopefully he is very cautious because his long term health is more important than anything. I would imagine being a father makes him acutely aware of that. Football is a game that brings many people joy and a healthy escape but it means nothing in comparison to players lives and roles as people outside of the game. Love your take on this Brian you are always right on top of everything and cut straight to the point and share accurate information and clarify what is speculation and what is factually known
I think Tua should really consider not playing this year, but his health is his business. If Tua wants to play despite understanding the risks, that’s his decision to make as an autonomous adult person. I think it would be a poor choice, but it’s his choice imo.
Tua should retire
Anyone remember Stan Humphries? He had a lot of concussions with the Chargers. I vividly remember the last one, was watching with my grandpa. Bengals game. He looked like he was seeing stars. And it was just a few days after another one. When they put him on the stretcher, Grandpa said that should be his last game and i think it was. He retired at only like 33 maybe. I don't recall anyone faulting him, even after we ended up with Ryan freaking Leaf
Kind of reminds me of tight end Jordan Reed as a redskins fan he had seven concussions I believe three in Florida and four with Washington 2010 11 12 13 15 16 19 . It got to the point where I became very concerned for his health he was getting knocked out every year. He was going to continue playing for the 49ers but retired because of concussion issues said he had lingering effects from the 2019-2020 season hit and retired. I'm really happy he retired.
Question for you. Hope you see this. I am an athletic trainer and am pursuing my DAT now. I will be starting my concussion and sport neurology specialization in March through my program, so concussions and management of concussions are very interesting to me. To my question, in school, a preceptor mentioned he read a study that found that concussion do not have lasting compounding effects of each is allowed to heal properly before sustaining another. What are your thoughts on this? I am trying to find that study to read for myself, but I know if I had a patient sustain more than two concussions, especially with severe symptoms like we have seen in Tua, I wouldn’t be clearing them to return that season.
Scary part is it doesn't seem like he's hitting that hard after that first big slam he took ... You see ufc fighters go from having a granite chin to just falling over the first time their hit kinda seems like he might be wayyy more prone to them at this point as well
Could be similar, but Tua hits his head on the ground. That's the worrying part. Getting koed with a headkick is bad, getting koed and then slamming your head on the ground is even worse. Jimi Manuwa comes to mind.
@NM 10 your definitely right about that hitting the back of your head like that has killed many of ppl in bar fights and falling down stairs and such, I grew up in Las Vegas and a family friend had gone out drinking with his wife and friends and had slipped and fell down 8 or 10 stairs and hit the back of his head but just had a headache and went upstairs to bed and never woke back up
Tua seems like the type of guy who feels like he has something to prove, if he's cleared, he will most definitely play
I played from 10 years old to division 1 Appalachian State. I suffered 9 concussions. I was warned after I got my 3rd my freshman year of highschool that I wouldn't be cleared to play ever again by the doc if I got one more. So I quit telling them when I got one. My last one at Appalachian State I couldn't hide as I was knocked out. After a slew of tests and brain scans I was forced to quit playing as I was not cleared. I'm 100% sure, as well as my neurologists, that I have CTE. Even though it can't be diagnosed until after death I asked the docs hypothetically if they had to bet there life on whether I have CTE both of them said they'd bet I do. I'm 38 and my brain scans show I'm closer to a 70 year old man than a 38 year old. I wish I'd done the right thing but I loved playing. When you're a teenager you ain't worried about long term consequences as you think you're invincible. 20 years later the consequences are catching up to me. No one to blame but myself.
Prayers for Tua and all players suffering from concussions. Mitch Morse, get well soon!
Watching this video reminded me of how many times I hit my head growing up playing tackle football with no protection. Always got headaches after hitting my head on the dirt like this and it would happen like twice a month tbh. I wonder how bad it was for my development, probably bad to say the least.
I think the NFL should institute strict rules for concussions, limiting the number to two a season and keeping guys out mandatory 2 weeks for a concussion. Otherwise, this controversy will continue to prevent athletes from playing the sport at a young level, which will take a toll over time on the NFL’s longevity.
Man, Tua needs to look at life a little differently now because it's going to affect him in the long run. He might have life-threatening seizures when he is in his late 20s. Early 30s if he keeps this up
How do you feel about the rigid reaction he has in his hands EVERY time he throws the football? Check out pictures of his off hand during throws. It is almost exactly like his hands did when he was concussed.
I just noticed this, wth
It’s just a flick of the wrist, perfect follow thru to throw the ball. It’s like basketball players when they shoot the ball. Many will hold,their hands like that in the pose long after shooting. He’s fine. What was very different was after the concussion and his play for only 81 yards and 3 rare INTs after throwing 279 yards first half and perfect passer rating
Look at football cards from the 80s, man, QBs just do weird things with their off hands.
As a 51 Year Dolphins Fan, I appreciate your analysis. I feel Tua should never take another snap in an NFL game. He is just too concussion prone to play at this high level. Other QB's get hit the same but their neck strength can keep their head from bouncing off the field. So that Tua can enjoy his Family in the future, he needs to retire from football.
I have never heard of a documented 3 concussions the same season. I’m sure it Happened a lot back in the day before they started cracking down on it. But look what happened to a lot of those players back then. He should def consider sitting out the rest of the season at least
i think more than 2 concussions in a 6 month span is too many considering that we don’t know how much of that we can actually handle without doing permanent and/or long term damage
I believe Austin collie was always getting concussions or some type of neck and/or head injury when he played. I’ve heard stories of it being in a colts household and I’ve seen a few myself.
Tua reminds me of Steve Young. Obviously Young played longer but retired because of numerous concussions. Hope Tua recovers soon and I agree he probably shouldn't play the rest of the season and probably should really consider his future in football.
Troy Aikman had to retire for this same reason.
A number of NRL players have recently retired young on medical advice after repeated concussions. They have made the sensible decision after thinking about them and their families' futures.
Kenny Pickett also has 2 concussions this season which were caused by his head hitting the ground. The league needs to explain why the helmets are not protecting the back of players head when they hit the ground.
When I was a kid playing pop warner football, we did imPACT concussion baseline testing. Is there a reason the NFL doesn't utilize that tool (like diagnostic accuracy), or are they just not allowed to share their diagnostic methods because of player privacy? Or, assuming the worst, do they simply not publicize any methods so that teams can choose to continue returning their players before they're ready in order to win more and sell tickets?
Brian I know this video is old so I don’t expect you to respond but I am wondering if you have any idea how this could effect the rest of his career, is it possible that with each head injury one becomes more prone to another?
I'm seriously thinking there could be a chance if he did have another concussion this past weekend we might never see him play again. There are certainly questions floating around out there about him retiring.
This dude just loves to fall directly backwards on his head. Brutal shots each time. The kinda strikes that are unlawful in MMA, UFC , boxing or at least supposed to be minimized.
Hope he can recover well and avoid another injury like this. Reminds me of Crosby
Crosby was lucky to have an issue with his neck. Chris Pronger, Marc Savard, Pat Lafontaine, and the list goes on. I know these people because I deal with PCS daily. Take concussions seriously
So if they're not supposed to be allowed in MMA/Boxing then what's the punishment for falling on your own head?
@Z64 Sports good question
Same I thought of sidney crosby after the injuries
I might be wrong, but I was fairly certain that it's not the 'fingers' concussion Miami doesn't consider a concussion, it's the one before that, the one where he wasn't benched after stumbling visibly, that they still don't officially consider a concussion. Hence, why he was able to play 4 days later. Which is why it was controversial when 'fingers' happened, because everyone had seen him 4 days earlier unable to get his legs under him. But maybe I'm remembering incorrectly?
The speed at which players return from really bad concussions is insane. I work a lot with people recovering from concussions and why there isn't at least a rule of taking a week off at LEAST for observation is bananas to me.
Concussions are so underdiagnosed in the NFL. I love football so much, but there's just so much push from the people who aren't putting their bodies on the line to get back in there.
Russell Wilson's concussion a couple weeks ago was a nasty one to see. How he was cleared to return after that is crazy. Like... he wasn't playing well to begin with. Why not get him off the field and let him heal. Ugh.
I think the toxic concept of “toughness” in football will come into play here, I feel like it should be a no brainer to have him out until next year, but with playoffs on the line and wanting to help your team, who knows, I hope for his sake his health takes precedence
Using the word toxic is toxic.
@James McDougal yup
toxic, really- I think you don't know what know what toxic is.
@James McDougal toxic, dumb, whatever you wanna call it, it’s not a good thing for the players if they feel pressured to play hurt.
All it’s gonna do is shorten their careers and make their lives worse.
Imo getting brain damage is nothing to be proud of
Idk the details though so I’m just speculating on the situation
Y’all are getting way too worked up over a single word, harmful then, dangerous, stupid. Take your pick the point is there’s this weird sense of pride in playing through injury in sports that’s generally bad for the overall health of athletes
What’s crazy to me is I remember when I used to watch the NHL if a player had a concussion they were out for months . Sidney Crosby for example
I can't remember how many Steve Young had before being forced to retire and Jeff Garcia took over. I also remember players like Offensive Linemen Steve Wallace using a shell over his helmet because he had a few concussions. This was all in the 90s, mind you.
I had 1 concussion and the doc was already telling me to take recovery seriously because of the risks from multiple concussions
As someone who has had WAY to many concussions, take your Doctor seriously. I didn't because I always recovered relatively quickly and never had lasting symptoms. . . Until I did. I had a severe concussion about 6 months ago and am still not right. I finally got in with a neurologist and I have permanent brain damage. This last concussion wasn't my fault (rollover car accident due to a tire blow out) but I wonder how many of my other concussions could have been avoided if I'd been more cautious.
^ This is on top of the fact that one concussion heightens your risk for another…Please take care :(
This was nearly 6 years ago, so I don't think I'm at any special risk anymore
@Chris Capoccia ok, that's true, but there is still a cumulative affect to concussions. In general I wouldn't recommend getting a concussions period! Not that most people are going around trying to get a concussion! Lol
I honestly think he should've been shelved after that incident when he was on the field with the hand/finger rigidity and issues walking after getting up. If the team has any genuine concern for it's players, then after an incident like that there would've been more in depth study and discussion about it all. I hope this doesn't turn out to be a wasted career for such a young and promising player.
I honestly still can’t believe they are playing stupid about the first concussion. They fired someone over it right?
The unaffiliated neurotrauma consultant was fired by the NFL players association. I think the situation is that they are employees of the NFL but NFLPA has a right to fire them. So neither the Dolphins nor the NFL really did anything.
It's pretty clear what happened to anyone how has played or watched sports, though.
Thank you I’m glad I’m not the only one. Why they keep acting like the first hit just doesn’t count or something? Millions of people watched it happen on tv like cmon now.
Needs to start a podcast on sports injury or just sports Tua has much love around the sports community plenty other routes he can take than being on the field could turn into a huge deal look at what pat McAfee has done and no disrespect to him but people didn't really know pat when he retired and now he's everywhere. With tuas popularity I'm sure he would have no issues finding a route off the field to take. Pray for a speedy recovery and praying for Tuas mental health i know he's gotta be Goin thru it right now. There's people rooting for you to do well best of luck Tua.
I thought most doctors were going to recommend that he needs 6 months of non football after the second concussion in 4 days but once again the Miami Dolphins found doctors that would send him back out there after just a couple weeks off
Kid may need to strongly consider retirement! His decision but he seems pretty prone to this injury, probably largely due to his size, especially compared to those tackling him!
I remember that wide receiver Collie that played with Peyton Manning on the Indy Colts.I think he had more concussions than anyone in NFL history.He had so many that you could look at him and he would be concussed.Had to retire because of it.
I have admittedly anecdotal evidence about a person who had a single bad concussion. This person suffered blinking lights for at least six months. Their personality totally changed. They became very grouchy, a lot more sexually promiscuous, and a lot less predictable/consistent. They had been running a business with their sibling for more than 20 years, and never had any major squabbles. Within a year of the concussion, the other sibling withdrew from the business, as they could no longer cope with the concussion victim's mood swings, and sudden lack of inhibition. The business collapsed shortly afterwards. The collapse of the business was not entirely due to the effects of the concussion. There were financial matters, also. But I believe that the concussion played a part, probably necessary but not sufficient, to put it in scientific terms.
Absolute insanity if he puts his 2 feet back on the field this year, with the money that he’s already made, I will start thinking about becoming an entrepreneur
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got my 7th concussion in 9th grade, first was 6th grade, i have been suffering from chronic migraines since the 5th. Most were minor but the first and the last 2, those fucked me up bad, haven’t played contact sports in so long. i miss it but then again i’m an old man now. can’t say i’d do much either way😂🎉
Tua is on the Wes Welker level in concussions, its getting worrisome
Jordan Reed was the worst I can remember
This is crazy. No way they missed that yesterday.
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What doesn't help is that Tua never learned to brace for a fall. So I feel like he ends up giving himself more injuries than he should. Doesn't help that the team nor the league are really looking out for him, it's the fans who are.
if this keeps happening then tua could end up like andrew luck. a great young qb with lots of talent who unfortunately had a bad o-line that couldn't protect him well leading to lord of injuries and an early retirement.
Austin Collie comes to mind. Some of the shots he took scared the s#%$ out of me
If he had torn his hamstring earlier in the season. Sat out a few games, went back and tore it again, he would be done. He was not given enough time to heal. Same with the brain. That is what Dr. Omalu was trying to say, players get concussions in all sports, the problem is they are not given enough time to heal.
As some with post concussive syndrome I would argue three concussions from personal experience after my third concussion they started coming way easier seven concussions in last ten years with two coming in past calendar year
It is more important that he is ok 30, 40, or 50 years from now. I hope he is ok
Unfortunately the symptoms of CTE can surface way earlier. Late 30s/early 40s.
Has the thought crossed anyone else's mind that these injuries -- which Tua has been getting since college -- are like messages from the universe?
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Are there also levels of concussions? Slight, medium, devastating? If so would that make a difference on your recommendation?
They should consider allowing guardian caps in game. Alot of our players who had concussion issues were allowed to play with them and none of them ever received another concussion while playing. They look dorky forsure but who cares. Players who opt to use them, can prolong their careers.
Some concussions can be career ending reminds of me Chris Holdsworth from the UFC, He was undefeated and took a bad knee from TJ Dillashaw in training that essentially ended his career cause he could never recover from the Concussion symptoms for years and at this point is just coaching and not fighting anymore.
The worst part is that he's going to be having CTE by the time he's 40 if not earlier. Sadly his body just can't take those hits and he sadly stuff like this happens to him.
Being aware that everyone’s body are very different and react very differently in specific situations it does seem like he is more predisposed to concussions. Watching his injuries he’s also always banging the back of his head off the ground. Is he not breaking his falls properly? I know that sounds ridiculous but I’m seriously asking the question. Maybe a better question is… is he falling in an odd way to avoid something else. Rodgers has suffered collarbone breaks and people said it’s because he was bracing when he was being tackled. It seems almost like Tua rolls before he impacts the ground. I don’t know that I can remember seeing another QB bang his head the exact same way so frequently. Am I crazy or do other people see it too?
The NFL should make a rule making it mandatory to put a player on IR if they get three concussions. Also is it still up to the teams to determine if a player sustained a concussion? I thought they made those decisions from a third party
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I feel that in this type of sport the athletes should learn how to save other players in those falls.
In other words- be ready to accommodate the opponent in the fall..
we have seen what happens to people when they get repeated or really bad head injuries (antonio brown) and i think he needs to think very long about retiring
This one might be the most serious because Tua himself reported the symptoms to the team....
Tua recently had a child and was also probably inspired by Kenny Pickett reporting his concussion to the team last week.
He reported the first one too.
Time to sit him out the rest of the season and or think about a new QB etc. He can’t relied on. To injury proned
@FierceAugLeo it’s because of the oline , the dolphins have not been able to keep a healthy qb all season. All 3 have got hurt. It’s not tuas fault but people that don’t know shit about football blame him
Yes. Period. He needs to consider retirement, not just quitting this season. He's going to be a vegetable in 10 years if he keeps getting concussed at this rate.
Its none of your decisions on what he does but his alone. He has the absolute best medical team giving him all the information that he will need to make HIS decision.
Luke keuchley had 3 confirmed in his last season. And he chose to retire because of so many