Born To Be A Monster? I Dennis Nilsen's Murders | Real Crime
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- Scottish civil servant Dennis Nilsen wanted male companionship but couldn't deal with anyone's emotions but his own. Serial killing solved the problem. Known as Muswell Hill Murderer, all of Nilsen's murders were committed in the two North London addresses in which he resided between 1978 and 1983. His victims would be lured to these addresses through guile and killed by strangulation, sometimes accompanied by drowning.
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“Then he killed me.”
That’s something you don’t hear everyday.
😂😂 I knew it was coming and I still laughed
@@wastedtalent666 it’s still one of my favorite things on the Internet
LMFAO, SAME
That ain't no sht, how freakn funny, in a warped sort of way! Carl was about " Three sheets to the wind" as they used to say😜
On the news
That poor plumber...the service call from hell.
Decomposing human body parts might not be the worst thing he has had to clean out of a drain. Psychologically it is the most disturbing, but if you are going by disgusting odor smelling like a skunk sprayed a rotten egg, quantity/volume of material needing to be removed, it erupting like old faithful filling the inside of your coveralls eyes mouth and ears, the odor penetrating your skin and not washing off for weeks.
Bretton Ferguson: This maybe but knowing that you are near to a dead body would psychologically scar you and terrify you, plus I have heard that this smell lingers for months too, possibly mind over matter,
A dead body is more common than you would think. That “smell” isn’t always a busted drain in the wall
@@BrettonFerguson your poetically GRIM
True I've worked clearing drains and now pest control. Drains can smell worse than decaying animals
I serviced Dennis Nilsen's television back in the very early 80's. It was a rented set and I was able to fix it on site, i.e, at his attic flat in North London. He asked if he could observe me maintaining the TV. I can recall him hunched over asking questions as I tinkered away. He certainly encroached upon my personal space - so much so I could feel his body warmth upon my own skin. At the time I simply thought he was curious about the inner-circuitry of a television set. Maybe he was. I'm just glad I declined his offer of a brew.
Reading your comment gave me chills. How many times you must of thought of that service call after learning who he was.
Crazy how one little decision can change or end your life.
Wow that's crazy! 😱
I m already feeling dead after reading your comment
dodged a bullet
Stephen Holmes his first victim. A 14 year old Irish boy. Went to London to attend a pop concert. Never returned to the Emerald Isle. 14. Nilsen wasn't just a serial killer but a child killer.
@MonkeyGoneToHell They met in a pub therefore Nilsen assumed Stephen was over 18.
@@crose7412how weird you make that statement. The original comment never said he knew either.
@@jenniferzaralee The original poster implied that Nilsen was deliberately targeting under-18s but there's no evidence to support that.
Isn't serial killer child killer same thing. Like they would kill multiple people including children
1.stephen holmes 14
2.kenneth ockenden 23
3.marty duffey 16
4.billy Sutherland 26
5-11 are unidentified
12.malcolm barlow 24
13.John howlett 23
14.graham allen 27
15.stephen Sinclair 20
these are the victims just in case you didn't know they're online but I just thought I would tell you
I think when we report on crimes like this, we shouldn't use their name. Give them absolutely no recognition. Only acknowledge the names of the victims. Especially when its somebody who feeds off the attention like Ted Bundy or Charles Manson. We should make the names of the victims more important than the predator, because they are more important that the predator. We spend time explaining why they did it, giving every bullshit excuse but barely even mention the victims names.
@@vanessanixon5197 ABSOLUTELY x
Thank you. Their names deserve to be heard.
I hate the fact that victims 5-11 are unidentified. How fucking sad is that. No one even cared enough about them to look for them or report them missing. I don't know wtf I am talking to here, I just felt compelled to say it.
Rusty blonch Jr. Thanks for giving them an identity. It’s too easy to group them all together under the word “victim” and forget they were all sons and grandsons. And some were also brothers, nephews, uncles, cousins, friends, possibly some even fathers.
The saddest thing is that the victims were all homeless young men. Nobody noticed that they were missing.
@Marshall Carwood
A Scottish (scotch is a whiskey drink) accent wouldn't give anyone the slightest clue of "what they are all about", so I don't follow your reasoning there. Most of the worst serial killers in the UK have actually been English, and I'd imagine that any Scotsman (or woman) reading your comment would rightly feel somewhat offended...:-/
@Marshall Carwood
My apologies, as I've just checked the dictionary and you are correct.....
Scotch
(adjective)
old-fashioned term for Scottish.
1. short for Scotch whisky.
2. the people of Scotland.
3. the form of English spoken in Scotland.
Until now, I would have described myself as old-fashioned (considering my age), but I guess I must be more of a modern-type woman than I thought!! :-D
It's always good to go for the homeless, and the prostitutes, if your gonna kill people, unless your amazing, at covering up your tracks, and disposing of your victims, then you can kill whoever you want.
God knew the numbers of hairs on their heads and He will judge those responsible
@@kts5920 thanks for advice
When Carl says " he killed me " I think he meant from the inside. The poor guy clearly never recovered from what happened to him.
No, I think he meant what he said. Because he did actually die, then the murderer brought him back.
No he did and was resuscitated , which brought him back to life.
It could be both physically and metaphorically .... to be certain, I think a part of him did definitely die that night, even if he came back physically.
Okay but... Who does that to a child? Working them all up to see his grandfather and not preparing them for what they are about to see? That's so incredibly cruel...
Such a trauma, so disrespectful
@@sophiegolden he was a lunatic irrespective of that. Yes that was traumatic for sure, and he was always going to be weird. However with a home and job he made the conscious choice to kill
Narcisistic parents
@Patrice AQA
It didn't sound like OP was blaming that event for Nilsen's future issues.
They were simply pointing out how messed up it was.
Around 9:25 is the moment in question.
Didn't want the boy to leave...this is SO much like Dahmer.
I thought so too
I have all ways thought that Nilson and Dahmer were very similar.
I thought so as well. Dahmer also used to lie with his dead victims for a while as if it brought him some (screwed up) peace somehow and did necrophilic stuff.... and stashed the body parts in his flat in a similar way... he could be the UK's Jeffrey Dahmer
Booze
Thought the same thing immediately
His mom did act like seeing dead grampa would be the same as seeing live grampa though
His mom was stupid!
joan baczek that was pretty messed up! Makes me wonder what other terrible things she did to him. Not that it excuses what he did to those poor young men.
I was shocked not one of the psychiatrists, therapists, or officers involved in this case found that to be profoundly disturbing and cruel to do to a little boy, whose only friend in the world was now his dead grandfather (I'm sure that mind-screwing she did - likely planted the seed for necrophilia; he now loved his dead grandfather?)
@@Maureen_Schilder agree he mom was cruel I'm 53 I can't see a died body or have me kids T that age see a dead body in my home she was cruel for him to be loner it starts from he's home he must of been egnored or mis treated
So I understand that his gpa was on the table dead ?
I don't have any sympathy for the man he became, but I felt so bad when I heard how he found out his grandfather had died. Who does that to a 6 year old??
A very cold-hearted mother.
Grandpa molested him...
It's scary how obvious his NPD was in those brief home movies, like very extreme. It would have been hell to be around him being constantly antagonised and berated. I was relieved when they said the first room mate got out, I hope that guy recovered his self esteem and lived a good life.
He was such a weirdo. 😮
Nielson had such a whiny, moaning personality. No wonder he had no friends.
Literally every clip from his home videos are of him complaining
😂😂
I feel like everyone knows somebody who does nothing but bitch and whine. I can name 3 off the top of my head lol
That, and that he was also a psychopathic killer.
were they from his camera or some cctv system
@@vanessanixon5197 My mom lives to bitch and whine, lol!!!
Carl Stotter seems such a vulnerable almost childlike man- wanted to trust Nilsen and was almost murdered by him- clearly indelibly scarred- BLESS.
Hey !Hey and wasted on something! In a later interview he appears sober.
Daz Auto Thank you for letting us know- Very Sad indeed- BLESS.
^very sad
Laina Adel Hey Laina- was just about to let you know that another commenter stated he died of alcohol related causes in 2013 but then that very person, That’s YOU DAZ, left a sarcastic LOL remark regarding you hoping he “gets better” and saying he didn’t think so because he died. NO NEED TO GET SNARKY DAZ- Have Some Respect- Full Stop.
Daz Auto How is it funny to make light or fun of someone clearly leading a sad life and succumbing to alcohol abuse?!? If my offense taken at your remark makes me a snowflake ❄️ I’ll take it.
I’ve always felt bad for Carl, you can tell Dennis haunted him the rest of his life. RIP.
@@Quizack wow seriously ?
I can't figure out how his neighbors didn't notice the smell and complain. I was a nurse for 34 years and have been around a lot of dead bodies and they start to smell within a few hours. When my friend committed suicide and laid there in her bedroom for about 6 to 7 hours it took a month to get the smell out of the room.
Interesting 🤔
They did smell it.
I’ve never smelled a dead human (that I know of, anyway), but I have smelled many a dead animal in the outdoors. I‘n thinking that the smell is similar, as the odor of death is unmistakable.
@@EYE_GOTCHA I think you're right. The smell of a dead animal or decomposition is horrendous.
@Repica aka Mousea Mossnaught You've never smelt a dead animal in nature? It's no different. Where have you been Mars?
18 months? 20 minutes in and I’m exhausted by him!
Right?? How could anybody stand to be around that guy?
Friend: “Aside from the smell of decomposing flesh, there was absolutely nothing out of the ordinary about Dennis’ apartment.” I wonder if he even realized what he said...
Fresh Beginnings I know exactly why he did it; I don’t need you to explain it to me. I still found it funny. Like saying, “Except for the completely obliterated bombed-out shell on the left side, the building appeared perfectly normal.” Why so serious, FB?
Flossy Fuuta Yes, exactly. Smart people get the ridiculousness of statements like that.
I mean he never actually said the smell of decomposing flesh, he said he thought it was dry rot.
@Pamela Morris never smelt a dead body but I'm pretty sure I'd know if I did, and I'm probably being judgmental but his friends look like they were probably fucked up on drugs and alcohol alot of the time back then.
Pamela Morris Just like you said, there’s no mistaking it - or so I thought. A heavy odor that permeates everything, I was also surprised about the neighbors.
If you doubt he was a necrophlliac you are not paying attention. He was taking photos of people who were pretending to be dead, as a teenager. This is exactly the kind of thing Dahlmer was doing. It's also why he would never tell anyone *Why* he was killing.
Necrophilia is a subjective label. Dahmer wanted a submissive partner and would engage in necrophilic acts to satisfy this. Since so little research is done on the psychology of necrophiles, pure necrophilia (as a psychology not the act) is still considered very rare, even amongst serial killers. And anyone who engages in necrophilia is considered to have negrophilic tendencies which is what the term necrophile is used to refer to in a non-clinical way regardless of whether they meet the criteria for the psychological classification or not.
@Jordan Belfort I honestly doubt it. It might give him temporary happiness but wouldn't be a long term substitute for sex/relationships.
That's one of the problems for me when people talk about sex dolls for incels, or even child sex dolls for pedophiles. It won't fulfil them in a long term way at all. In the case of pedophiles it will probably just encourage their compulsions and thoughts.
@Jordan Belfort Well, wiki did say he had BPD which can develop from trauma and fractured relationships. But he probably had a genetic predisposition towards it as well. His brother grew up in the same house and went through an almost identical childhood and didn’t become a serial killer...... so I don’t really know how he would,have needed up if he had a different upbringing. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was much the same to be honest.
@Jordan Belfort That doesn’t make a normal person a serial killer. Look at all the kids who survived the Iraq war. Not many of them became serial killers.
Ah yes. The brilliant mind of an arm-chair psychologist doing the Monday morning quarterbacking on partial, highly edited data for those he thinks to be ignorant peons. Thanks ... for nothing.
The plumber discovers human flesh and bones in the pipes. The police officer says to the chief "Come over and take a look around, I've got a bit of a problem here." You gotta love British understatement!
“Local children cane and danced around the bonfire.... they never knew.” (Scene out of a horror movie).
It's a beautiful scene...don't you agree !
What movie is it?
How on earth would local children come to be in his garden? That bit just didn't make any sense to me.
Was a patch of public rough ground behind the garden
It was a bone fire😅
I feel bad for all his murder victims but those 2 men who survived his sadistic murder attempt, my heart goes out to them because they're still suffering
Good story 😮
It's their own fault he was a freak and they were freaks, they put themselves in the line of fire.
@@frankmcnally01 I'm guessing you're the kind of person that blame the men and women that gets raped on them as well.
@@frankmcnally01 ur a freak
@@frankmcnally01 dumbest thing I’ve read in a while
What kind of woman was his mother, that she broke the news of his grandfather's death by telling her son that his grandfather was in the kitchen, when in fact it was the corpse that was in there? Not much is said about Neilsen's mother but just this one event points to the probability that she was routinely cruel and sadistic towards him. So if his becoming what he became had anything to do with his mother then it's nature AND nurture.
IKR...that's what i was thinking the entire time, very poor parenting. I blame the mother for her son's actions..
sadiistic
@methven Arundell You're the one who can't see what a poor parent she is
Maybe his gd is his DAD, and his mom insane from being sexually abused?
@@carastorey678 Maybe. But it seems that he didn't see much of his dad in order to be influenced by him. His grandfather seems to have had much more of a paternal influence. And is there any evidence that his mother was abused?
Everyone laughing at Carl Stotter, shame on the lot of you! He was severely traumatised by what happened to him at that evil's hands. He killed the man his family knew before 1982. This here is a completely broken man. Sadly I'm not surprised to see he passed away on New Year's Day 2013 aged only 52. To all laughing at him, would you like it if people laughed about a member of your family if they had been in this situation? I sincerely doubt it! RIP Carl Stotter. Finally at peace
I agree 💯 with you! RIP dear Sir! Finally at rest!
Well said! Poor guy, I hope he found some kind of peace in the end :(
you have to admit though he was a bit dramatic and the wig
I agree. I felt really bad for him
@@Blobby192😂 I concur
Blimey, you know you're in trouble when you can no longer remember how many bodies there are.
Please excuse my ignorance but what does blimey mean?
@@wifemotherconservative3432 an expression of shock or surprise the same as if you preface a sentence with "wow" or "holy cow" or "holy shit".
Yeah, I bet he really gave a fuck eh! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@KnottyCeltic
I believe the correct full expression is 'Gor blimey'. It is a cockneyism.
Yeah that's how I usually realize I'm in trouble
Killing him and bringing him back repeatedly is a kind of torture that gives neilson god like power and causes trauma bond in victim. The victim becomes controllable and feels they must be thankful to their captor because he gave them life. It’s weird but true. Victim stays and comply out of a bent Sense of thankfulness
BTK did the same to his victims, like the Otero family. But this theory about that the victims would be thankful to him,
I don't fully agree with. Its about power, and controll. Because in that moment, he is God.
Yep all about power over another life. What a sick jackoff
All about control, control someone life...
and you know this because...?
I don't know about that.
He had all them bodies just chillin' in his apt and closets and plastic bags in a multi unit building and no one complained about the smell? Lemme know what air fresheners he was using b/c that's some powerful stuff! lol.
I was wondering the same thing. A bin not cleaned out regularly makes me ill, a 2-day old piece of meat makes me ill and he has three chopped up bodies in the apartment.
Literally had fried onion in my bin for less than 24 hours and it stinks I’ve had to put the bag outside half full. So yeah it’s pretty unbelievable nobody ever complained
Ha ha crying 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I want to know too
If you find out 😂🤣😂😋
Let me know !!
🙏
the fact that Nilsen was completely calm when he saw the police at his house, and when the inspector confronted him about the human remains he actually smiled a little, and then immediately and casually pointed to where the rest of the body was, says a lot. he must have been waiting for a looong time to get caught and felt relief when he saw the police (which was made obvious by his expressions). most serial killers have this trait in common; they just cant overcome their compulsions to kill and seem happy and unbothered when caught, as if they themselves were sick and terrified of the monster in their head.
Yes Dennis Nilsen referred to the day he was caught as “the day help arrived”.
That’s very interesting. I bet you’re exactly right.
I was scared for the dog
Me too
Actually it's very sad. He loved his dog very much and she was put down when he was caught :(
He loved his dog. He didn't even want his dog to see him get arrested in fear it would traumatize the dog.
@@cecile.no1940 noo! That's so sad! 😢
www.murdermiletours.com/blog/serial-killers-murderers-who-loved-their-pets-dogscats
"he wasn't a bad looking guy" are we looking at the same person here or what? 😂
+teamblue Ever been to Britain? The standard for what ''good looking'' means is veeery low. I don't know what happened there, but they have a really bad set of genes.
@@cheyennebrennan966 Yeaaah... But those are exceptions... The average is still awful...
@@davidgreen5994 maybe not now, but 80s Britain was truly a dark time for "attractiveness" lmao
also why they all have horrible teeth, loooool!
Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder.
;-)
Seeing the downward spiral of Carl throughout the years of interviews is so sad. He was a gorgeous young man.
He was fucking disgusting
I didn’t realise his first victim was 14. So sad.
How much more sad is the death of a14 year old than a 17 year old? And how much more sad is the death of a 17 year old than an 18 year old?
I didn’t know his victims were children either, it’s bad no matter what though
@@danlhendl good point...
Child killers deserve a special place in hell.
@@danlhendl at least the older ones had longer to live. its still sad either way. just especially sad to see a preteen/teen robbed of their shot at life
I wish they didnt play such loud music in the background you cant hear the documentary
Anacelis Bercruz I agree!! I hate when they do that. They need to turn down the background music. During those parts, the narrator is practically whispering! Drives me nuts.
It’s from the compression on TH-cam this was mixed for tv then uploaded here years later
Ikr!!!! Can the freaking background music noise!
The subtitles are useless as well! So many great YT documentaries spoiled by loud background "music".
True.
The "background" music in documentaries that are not about music are almost always unneeded.
No need for "dramatic" effect as the story conveyed in the documentary is the drama.
Still, I dunno what good my opinion/perception does, ha ha ha ha!
David Tennant's performance was simply breathtaking..... watching this after watching "Des" and David got him spot on!
Who’s here after watching “Des”?
David Tenant crushed this role. I think even more so now after hearing the real Des talk..
@@jakeso7737
Definitely. I hope he gets an award for making this.
He deserves one.
Disturbing accurate portrayal.
I thought the accent was a bit strong having now listened to Nilsen's, but the look, demeaner & dialogue was spot on
I’m here after watching Des.
For anyone that is curious if has been released, he’s dead passed away at the age of 72.
Thank you
Just asked my wife about that & we looked it up. Died of complications following a stomach op.
and he died in his own piss and shit, i googled it
dale watts 😂
@John Bryan pmsl yeah and he'd have given you the shirt off his back lol
I've watched a lot of shows of this guy but I've never seen these home movies.... very interesting..... Thanks
Same. And im some docus it was not mentioned that he was in military. It said he's a butcher because of family business that he helped to manage when he was younger.
I've seen them before.
He came across as very bossy and quite an unpleasant character in those movies.
This guy lived 10mins away from me when I was young.
Very well researched.
I'm surprised this documentary didn't mention that Nielson's grandfather, according to Nielson's tapes and auto biography said he realised his grandfather was a pedophile who "embraced" him. But he still adored his grandfather.
When he saw his grandfather's corpse, his concept of love and death blended together.
It's completely obvious,but entirely swept under the rug and not even mentioned!!!
Very perceptive
I honestly suspected it right after they mentioned his relationship with him
Most of these seem to be born out of fatherlessness or having a scary dad and sexual abuse. Child sexual abuse is always left out and hidden. Gee I wonder why???
Is there a source for his grandfather being a pdf file? Not doubting just want confirmation
I feel so awful for Carl Stotter. He was so different in earlier interviews. Now it appears as though he’s had to cope with this through years of substance abuse 😔
You're a cutie 😍
@@williamdougie6213 you’re down bad lol
I didn't know about the previous interviews. As if his dad casting him out wasn't enough, then nearly getting murdered, he doesn't get believed. Its just awful. The poor guy.
It seems he passed away in 2013 ☹️ hopefully he is at peace now.
@Bruce Wayne my god how he changed over interviews in time. Initially he simply said he never understood why anyone would want to kill a stranger to this performance
I don’t know if he really knew how to be a companion. I think he thought a companion was more of an audience for his “genius.” Which is what I think he considered himself. Once he did start to become emotionally attached is probably when he’d kill them since he associated love with death. Just my armature 2 cents.
Exactly how i see it
Everyone he loves leaves/dies
Years ago, while I was studying at Bath University, the psychology department had a guest speaker, who had interviewed Nilsen extensively, and even spoke with Dahmer years earlier. His lecture was standing room only, it was that popular.
Weeks later, it came out that he was a fraud. He wasn't what he claimed to be, professor of criminal psychology or whatever at some American university, and hadn't spent time with these notorious serial killers.
The lecture really was fascinating, even if he made it all up! ;)
What a waste
Maybe he will become a serial killer.
Damn he is a good speaker I take it.... imagine being naturally gifted to talk Shit in detail
Sabeeta Saroay I know expert bullshit talkers It’s profitable We see them everyday
I've worked with several universities and most academics "big-up" their backgrounds / experience in some way. It's a real problem with anyone who has studied overseas as it's virtually impossible to check their records
When Carl Stotter talks about Neilson killing him he meant his spirit, soul and self respect. Not in a literal sense. God bless him. Rip
🙏🙏❤️
I feel terribly for what the Stotter guy went through. But it must be said- he has an amazing personality...
Carl was found dead at his home in Brighton in 2014 after falling into a diabetic coma. He had struggled with alcoholism ever since Nilsen's trial.😢
Turn the music up, it doesn't fully cover the narrator yet and you know that's what we all really want.
😂😂😂👍🏽
Ginn right? I was thinking the same thing🙄.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Captain Midnight because when they pirate the documentary (which I appreciate), they turn the volume on the sound track up in order to not get copy right claimed. This one is not as bad as some actually lol.
The retired detective sitting in his office "minding his own business"....dry humor...
He felt personally attacked
The call startled him 😢
"now what's this bother?"
I noticed that lol it was like he really didn't want to do his job lol
Haha protect and serve?
I find it quite interesting that in time past psychopaths were referred to as "moral imbeciles".
or royals.
When they say Nilsen would burn a body in his yard using rubber tires , I thought WHAT. If you have ever burned rubber , you KNOW that the sky fills up with black smoke for quite a long time . The fire department should have been on the scene in minutes.
I caught that as well
Back then I think they were very relaxed about people burning things in their back yards
Did they not say he burned them at night? The smoke would not be so noticeable and without any call outs by residents they'd not have any reason to investigate, esp in those days, perhaps it'd be a different story nowadays.
@@ladyg3nius Bonfires were totally normal back then - people burned all kinds of things. My father used to collect all the 'dry' rubbish from the house - paper, cardboard, plastic etc - and burn it on a brazier in the garden once a week.
Also rubber tires smell terribly when set on fire. But then if the neighbors didn’t report the decomposition smell I guess they couldn’t smell anything at all lol
When Carl suddenly said - "And I slept with him!". It threw a deep shock into me. I don't know why?! Did I not expect that on the first date?!
Lady Luck Not familiar with the gay-scene I take it? Or plenty of girls at nightclubs.
Lots, I mean LOTS of ppl fuck on the first day .. TF?
welcome to the 21st century lol
@@wickedtraven it was the 20th century then
The problem with this documentary is that there is not enough Carl Stotter. I want him to do a series, waxing dramatic and emo on any topic, from his life & experience.
He was clearly off his nut in this interview
Carl Stotter sadly drank himself to death because of the trauma that Nilsen put him through.
nasreen chaudhary Wait? When did he die? I’ve been looking him up and seen nowhere about him being dead. I’ll have a further look.
Edit: Oh no he is dead. Poor Carl. Life ruined by Nilsen.
He’s dead
Best part of this
Carl Stotter was found dead at his home in Brighton in 2014 after falling into a diabetic coma. He had struggled with alcoholism ever since Nilsen's trial.😢 RIP
🙏🙏❤️
Just crossed my mind some tenant renting that flat unaware of what went on in there .
Can we just have a 40 minute documentary with just Carl talking about stuff.
i know it was sad what happened. but this man gets creepier every time you see him the bad wig the over acting dramatics the anger and the way he talks is saying to me look at me this is all about me me me strange .
@@BlytheWorld1972 I agree! He is very weird and very creepy... but I didn't realise that was a wig?! Then I looked up when he was young and he was naturally blonde.
Cmon though, that is a traumatized human if I ever saw one. Clearly relying on medication or substances to get through life. Poor person
@@pru666 oh yes .. lol
@@pru666 I have seen Carl Stotter in other earlier interviews and he was the most normal, intelligent and articulate man. In this interview he was a hot mess. I don't know if it's because it just got to him later on - or he got addicted to something - or both?! If you look into his past, you will see that he had a very sad and difficult life, aside from Neilsen, and now has HIV related health issues.
Please upload all Born To Kill episodes :) I used to watch them years ago and they're so good.
He was protecting himself from harm by being so called selfish. He had been so hurt in the past that by prioritizing his own thoughts and feelings created an almost shield that prevented other's from diminishing him even in conversation. A sad man, unfortunately.
This the most calmest video i think ever made about a serial killer😅
Dennis neilson :Hey Jeff, got any ice cream in the freezer?
Jeffrey Dahmer :No man, I've only got Ben and Jerry.
AHAHAHABA
What did they find in Dahmer's fridge?
Ground Chuck
What did they find in Dahmer's shower?
Head and Shoulders
😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Good god haha
Monster fail.
I laughed
He had a cute dog
It's nice to have something interesting to watch while I'm waiting for the next ad to start
I grew up in that area of london (Muswell Hill) and remember hearing the stories about Dennis Nilsen, completely forgot about it until watching the TV show.
The joke at the time was "1983: the year in which Dyno-Rod solved more murders than the Met."
Good one Sophie.
Lol that's genius 😂😂😂😂
Something about his experience of finding the grandad dead just makes me so sad. I know he destroyed countless lives, but to do that to a 6 year old? His mother gets zero sympathy from me, it was a cruel thing she did.
You're a weird one.
Why don't you wonder if it was the abandonment of his father that made him this way, or perhaps his grandfather may have molested or abused him in some way, rather than blame his mother as though a few parenting mistakes would creat a monster. His mother was certainly flawed, but we don't know her story or many details of Nilsen's growing up, and yet you feel sad for the animal that took the lives and bodies of others as though they were no more than dolls to him and blame a woman because, obviously she's worse. Wtf.
I saw a documentary about his family background I think it was Serial killers and their mothers and his mother was a horrible woman.
@@kristynamatulkova5771 Maybe, but what about the nonexistent dad? He gets to write himself out of accountability by abandoning his child. Why doesn't that make you 'a horrible' person? Single parents are usually women, and they are the one's blamed for bad outcomes while men are ignored when it comes time to play the blame game..Did the doc you watched address that?
@@dreamingrightnow1174 yes, there was a lot about how he was abandoned by his father and how the grandfather substituted that role.
It’s interesting that throughout his life Nilsen always spoke so highly of his Grandfather, then suddenly in ‘History of a Drowning Boy’ he spoke out about his Grandfather sexuality abused him
Stockholm syndrome. He was only 5 when his alleged abuser passed away, and he loved his abuser. Such an early, massive trauma left an entire life time of confusion, insanity and attachment to the abuser. If it did happen, the grandfather broke him for life. And something tells me that the grandfather had been abused too, cause abuse by keen tends to be cyclical. It’s a world wide thing I know, but the UK seems to be a nest of child abuse.
Yikes, I didn't want to feel sorry for Denis Nilsen, but that story of seeing his grandfather was heartbreaking. So many lonely, fatherless little boys adore their granddads and his mother must have been a sadist to do that to him.
What kind of human being kills and cuts another into pieces for pleasure.
A nut.
A sadistic, narcissistic, psychopath.
@Actionbastard I'll have a look cheers.
a psychopath
Somebody with a lot of issues.
His mom: Do you wanna see your grandfather?
Him: Oh. I didn't know he's here
So weird!!!
@@cindylemons9677 and the dude called that a normal childhood....
I wonder if she put a bow on the box??? 😂
Unfortunately his cold-hearted mother didn’t realize actually how much of a hand she had in creating this monster. Which seems to be the case with MANY serial killers.
@@jennajune2101 It seems to be genetic. Psychopaths often have children with similar traits.
He lived in my neighborhood when i was growing up. When this all came out i was terrified for years and couldn’t go past his house.
Did you danced around the bonfire?
@@ubermensch5781 😂😂😂
@@ubermensch5781 omg 😂😂😂😂
As a Northern Irish man I only discovered recently that one of his victims who was never identified came from Belfast.
Him seeing his grandfather dead was the worst thing that could happen to him :-(
What a horrible way to tell a child their favorite person has died.
jekyllhiding same thing I’m saying! His mom is crazy! -(
@@Nat0528 It is so sad.
A happy childhood is so important. It has nothing to do with money, just happiness, love and safety.
I was shocked not one of the psychiatrists, therapists, or officers involved in this case found that to be profoundly disturbing and cruel to do to a little boy, 'you want to see grandfather' (with zero warning he has died?) GF was his only friend in the world, is now his dead grandfather ? (I'm sure that mind-F@%King by his mother - likely planted the seed for something as aberrant as necrophilia; it left him unprepared to love his dead grandfather as if still alive?)
@@Maureen_Schilder It is also pointed out that hundreds of thousands of people have been raised and experienced the same things and did NOT become serial killers.
I dont easily make friends. Never once chopped anyone up.
I shall not be coming over to yours too watch the Queens Birthday, dunno whats in the cuppa tea!
@@vstepwilliepepboxingchanne96 you weren't invited and the monarchy is a vampire to the working class. Thats the tea. 😏
@@carolannelady9271 Very true. Watch Shaun Attwood channel on Prince Andrew and the Queen true evil they are.
@@carolannelady9271 I think some people think of killing others at some stage in their lives though who wronged us badly in life (maybe even warped as it may have been yourself not the person who acted badly). I think mix that with alcohol and drugs and some act on it. I think its a chemical imbalance in the brain it must be surely like a compulsion more ape like mentality from our DNA heritage mixed with modern social modes.
My grandad was one of the people trying to fix the pipes on that house when it was discovered. My nan says she'd never seen him so quite when he got home.
他看见什么了吗
"Not a bad looking man" he looked like Fred West on a starvation diet
This comment made me lol.
He is Fred west and he's alive not dead
He wanted companionship and love but all he knew of companionship and love was that it didn't last so he subconsciously didn't let people get close to him because he thought they'd just leave. He wanted control over others because he didn't have control of himself. He needed to self-reflect and ask himself why people always left.
[EDIT] He was also a narcissist and didn't think anyone else could be good enough for him.
myfairytalelife3 Close. He was a necrophyliac.
I just love how people make excuses as to why for psychopaths. What they do is so out of the ordinary, vile and evil they make up fabricated reasons of control, childhood abuse etc etc with little to no proof. This kinda of mental illness does not have reason, it's simply unbridled evil and instability. Not everything we don't understand has to have a reason.
@@mrs.schmenkman You can be a necrophiliac and a psychopathic narcissist at the same time.
@@jacobasnodgrass5853 Everything happens for a reason, but just because there's a reason it doesn't mean that it's an excuse. I believe it's important to understand why people do what they do when they do it so we can prevent tragedies from happening in the future.
u speakin straight facts
Carl Stotter's recollections are the best part of the story. He needs his own documentary.
Hello l think Carl stottor has passed away
no, don't encourage him; bewigged drama queen...defining event of his sad life
@@trevorpentland6590 nah hes still alive
@@trevorpentland6590 Yes he has, back in 2015.
@@rameshmalik5271 thanks mate think l learnt that from you
Imagine being the person who rented the Melrose Ave apartment after this guy.
Eww! It would never feel like home or a place to live...
That place was an utter shit hole and cemetery
This video showed up right after I finished watching "DES" -- great miniseries by the way.
I agree the mother's behaviour was so odd. Not warning him his grandad was dead. I pity that child.. tho it's hard to pity the man he became.
Also feel so much for the man/men who were revived. I wonder how often he has been disbelieved!
His grandfather was molesting him
He likely had her temperament.
I can’t smoke weed due to the smell (can’t cook regularly either since the smell makes me sick) and don’t know how these people didn’t pick up the smell!!!???
Monsieur P. Picky bastard
Have you seen a specialist about that?
Wow you are very strange about smells
I can't stand the smell either. It reminds me of most of my family that would never work but always lived off me.
Monsieur P. Never hear about edibles?
I know 3 people who knew nilson in prison, one was a guard, one was a physio and one was a prison chaplin. None of them know each other but they all said the same thing, when you looked into his eyes there was nothing there, he was utterly terrifying. The guy I know who was a screw at full sutton and whitemoor said the a lot of real hard cases were genuinely afraid of him.
Nilson is feared by everyone and is very dangerous to society
Cool story brah
This is the most disgusting disturbing thing I have ever heard. That murderer Denis Nilsson preyed on the vulnerable. His first victim was a 14 year old boy. All the victims seem to have been regarded as "less important" than other people by the police. Dreadfully dreadfully sad.
You need to turn down the background music. It's hard to hear over it at times.
Was so hard to watch because of this
Whaaaat... sorry I cant hear you 🙉🙉🙉
It's a tv show, how can the person change the background music on a tv show?
@knotty1966
I’ve noticed a lot of people don’t understand that these shows on TH-cam have been copied from other sources (often tv) and aren’t created by the uploader.
@@Melesse636 odd, isn't it.
It's horrible that his dog got put down when he was arrested 😢
unfortunately if there was a chance the dog had eaten human flesh, it's procedure. RIP doggo
@@OreenPeach I think that it depends on where you live. My neighbor adopted a dog that had to eat his previous owner to survive when the lady died. He is still a very sweet and adorable dog.
rip doggo
@@OreenPeach bullshit. She was very old, had an illness and was likely traumatised by being parted from him.. Yours sincerely someone who worked at the local RSPCA
They didn't know what the dog had seen, what if it rubbed off on him? Plus they figured he'd blame the dog for what he did.
Damn, his house is only down the road from where i grew up.
I feel very sorry for Carl Stotter, I heard he passed away a few years ago if that true RIP.
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Omg !! Finally been waiting for this documentary in good quality for ages! Thankyou!
It often seems that with people with a killer fantasy cross the line when they discover alcohol
Yea. It's lowers people's inhibitions about everything which is why everyone loves it of course, but it lowers the inhibitions they have about...murdering people, unfortunately. Whereas it lowers a normal man's inhibitions about approaching a pretty woman.
Alcohol is a uniquely disinhibiting drug, I think, with its GABAergic CNS depression and NMDA antagonism. On paper, it's like taking a barbiturate and a low dose of a dissociative like ketamine simultaneously. Understandable yet very weird IMHO that it's so ubiquitously ingrained in human culture, and this is coming from someone who uses and relies upon many other drugs including CNS depressants. I've noticed that with most other drugs (including strong CNS depressants) people even on moderate-to-heavy doses seem to have some semblance of control (and self-possession and "presence") but on alcohol the limiters are just gone and there's no self-control at comparable doses.
That's what scares me about alcohol and why I panic around drunk people. Even though of course most peole don't become killers as they don't harbor those inclinations, people do all sorts of unpredictable and awful things to others on alcohol. Terrible substance really.
How can the other tenants just live in a building that must have reeked of human decay??? I never understand how other people didn’t smell the death in these kind of cases where some psycho was storing rotting bodies in their apartment. Unbelievable.
Once you smell it you'll never forget it. I don't know how anybody could stand it.
See your comments everywhere I guess you're as obsessed with these murder documentaries as I am lol
Agree
This man picked me up hitchhiking through Wales in 1979. One of the creepiest experiences of my life. Of course I had no idea who he was except for he was very creepy and I was scared. Many years later I came across his photo in a book of serial killers and I froze and had a flashback. This was long before you tube and I' ve never seena doc on him before. Guess its lucky I am female. This man was seriously creepy. Don' t hitchhike, kids.
Good advice 👍
Why were you getting in a stranger’s car?
@@God.sDaughter Because it was 42 years ago, I was young and stupid, and backpacking through the UK with a friend who.had gone on. aheadof me, leaving me in.Wales alone.
He couldn't drive so doubt this is true
Lies
A disturbed man always wanted to control,
What I dont get is how his friend couldn't tell the smell was decomposing flesh .
Weird.
Sounds like a Jeffrey Dahmer.
Victims of satanic ritual abuse!
My first thoughts exactly...so many parallels and similarities.
That's exactly what I thought a Jeffrey Dahmer type
If we have to compare Nielsen and Dahmer its the other way around. Nielsen was caught 8 years before Dahmer. To me, the only thing that resembles Dahmer is that they both killed men and disposed of the bodies in a similar fasion. That's it. Dahmer was a person that could make you feel empathy for him even though you know what he did. He wasn't even remotly as flamboyant as Nielsen.
@Robin Banks i know he killed first but he wasn't known until 8 years after Nielsen.
Very interesting, informative and educational.
Thank you.
Just watched the 3 part series about this man. Portrayed by the brilliant David Tennant. ....😬😬😬😬
Me too, I thought it was first class
Tenant was excellent. The rest of them miscast
What channel is it on?
@@antoniafaheerty6980 ITV
@@antoniafaheerty6980 be on repeat somewhere. Hope you got to see it.
That poor puppy
She was never harmed, thank God.
@@aintnobodyherebutuschicken1418 He was put down after his arrest
You see his arrogance and superior attitude from the get go. As usual, like all arrogant people. He was really a twisted and evil monster.
Arrogance is different from sociopathic, narcissistic and psychopathic behavior. Not all arrogant person are evil.
You noticed that in him too right? Very charismatic and an inflated ego.
All of the toxic people you’ll find in life have an insatiable lust & need for holding Power & Control over others!
True
Carl stotter was truly messed up from this heartbreaking the way he tells his story Rest In Peace Sir
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The worst fear of any society is that these people aren't monsters. Instead they are people like us for whom life has severely screwed up. That's the waking nightmare.
Great observation. I think that's the reason why there will always be people who vilify others for having empathy for the "monster." A surplus of empathy is clearly not the problem.
Carl Stotter is amazing. He needs his own show.
Died years ago apparently. I just found out. It’s so sad.
2013†
@@spacecat3198 this sad 😔
One of his victims survived, he was loved,he was known to his loved ones as Kara, sadly Kara is no longer with us,may he rest in paradise
no offence but..
fav part, " are we talking about one body or two ?"
Nilsen: "neither maybe sixteen"
Did he have a sense of smell at all?
He probably did, but you can get used to horrible smells if you sit in it for a bit. It's like People who live in hoarder houses with dead pets and all kinds of shit. They get used to it.
you get used to it
like living on a farm
I couldn’t stand it but after a few visits I got used to it
@@catyoinnoriakitty1994 I find this true. While I dont live on a farm I live near one, we pass horses in fields on our walk to take our kids to school. A friend who doesnt live local visited last year and commented on the smell. I honestly dont even notice it because Its a normal everyday thing for us. Never really gave it much thought until she pointed it out.
What I find even stranger is that at least two of the victims must have gone into his flat and smelled decomposing body parts. He may have been used to the smell, but surely they weren’t.....
Lady Beagle Good Point