SVT and NCT are real vibe killers! No need to compare. Carats and Nctzens are supporting each other. We're in peace and it has to stay that way😊😊😊 Also, thanks for mentioning Yuta and the gurl who appreciated Taeil😘 stream Yuta's cover of "White" by TVXQ. Thank you💚
N Yuta ahem let me tell u a story Once a upon a time, KIM MINGYU is not ALWAYS CLEAN he also had a nickname given by carat that is “germgyu” or “mingeww” cuzz he touch others hair after he freaking sneeze on his hand Even jihoon exposed him.... REMEMBER HE CLEANS wHEN NEED TO BTW THNXX FOR BECOMING A CARAT AND I LOVE MINGYU SO DON’T MISUNDERSTAND I LOVE SEVENTEEN💎💎💎💕💕💖💕💎💎💎💕💖💎💕💎💕💖💎💕💎💎💕💎💖💎💎💖💎💖💖💎💖💖💎💖💖💎💖💎💖💎💖💖💎💖💎💎💖💎
I never understand why people complain about "too" many people in kpop groups Like you don't have to learn them, you just watch their dance practice. It's OK when there are many dancers. Also when you listen to the music, you don't think about how many members here. And if you fall in love with them, you will learn them anyways, bc they are great
hi i am natali IKR!! I could never understand why people complain about too many members I mean with that number of members they could still be syncing is a great thing
@@Crystal-kr9to also i laugh every time i see a person knowing from 5 to 50 groups already but being scared of 1 group with 13 members Like damn u already know more than 30 idols, svt is just 1 group instead of 2 lol
People don't understand the talent in these groups like they just focus on the number of members like wtf what's wrong with having more members?! ANYWAYS STAN NCT AND SVT OR PERISH 🙂
Literally sick when people saw SEVENTEEN and said "I can't, there are so many members. So many things happen in one time". I swear, once you slip into the diamond life you will never find a way out. Stan a talent.. SVT💎
But you have to except the fact that people who don't know anything about either kpop or seventeen will say this or even have this thought I'm just saying!
I used to be one of those people 😔 I would watch their videos casually but not get into them completely because of how many member they were. Took me literally a day of dedication to get to know everyone and now I can’t live without them. They are the most genuine and pure idols I have ever seen and the talent they have is unbelievable. If one member is missing it feels so lonely I can never imagine saying they are so many ever again
saw both of them in real life and like a guy said seventeen is so good at hyping a crowd while still maintaining a great performance and singing. their live was so enjoyable even a dark or sad song like dwc or thanks. they’re a good performer
"none of this group can fly to america" WELL GUESS WHAT they just finished their LA concert last night. seventeen is having their world tour, "Ode To You," and already performed to six states and have two more to go. PLUS they'll be having a concert in Europe. yes, they did that.
This is my point of view for svt choreo (if you dont agree with me, just go away and look for other comment. Many ppl underestimate svt and i will make clear of that) : Seventeen's dance is not focusing on how fast or strong the moves is, but the meaning and the story of the song, they visualizing it. That's why svt's performance can be considered as *art* and if you know the meaning of the song, you'll get more depth meaning about it. They make use of their number in their moves wisely and no one outshine the others. What makes svt choreo is so beautiful (based from dancer reaction) is their synchronization, transition, formation, dynamic. That's why *You cannot see their choreo as an individual, they dance in a WHOLE group not only INDIVIDUAL* and if you look carefully, they use much of sequences like timing. *People said that SVT choreos are easy, but it is NOT easy. It's just they executes it flawlessly until it looks like effortless* they're known for their difficulty in choreo such in survival show where almost every trainee wants to avoid their choreo. They contains maby jump and small details, and their moves is smooth af. It's harder to control your body to be smooth than moving fast and powerfully. This is too why you'll hard to find any svt cover. If you want to cover svt, make sure you have a big number of ppl, because it will be empty (and incomplete) if you just use a small amount of ppl it will lack of smtg What makes svt choreo is hard not only the synchronization, dynamic, transition, and level (not only synchronization okay) is their connection, it may be easy to learn from individual moves but the challenge isn't about the individual moves but how they combine their individual styles to move as a group. When they practice they even focusing about the angle and degree, they won't stop practicing until 3 times without any mistakes, they can learn their choreo in 24 hours, they make their own choreo, no dance hole in seventeen. I've known kpop since a long longgg time ago but never really attached and amazed by any groups. No matter how fast, sexy, hardcore, dark, powerful their choreo and i despise cute concepts for bg. But once i saw Ador U, omagoshh, ADORE U, THAT CHEERFUL CHILDISH CUTE ONE. And i can't stop to falling in love with them. I myself shocked too, and that's how i enter kpop entirely and be a part of a fandom
Yass.. this is really what i want to say. Thanks for explain this so clear. Even i'm multifan but i'm never like everything from boygroup.. like this .. before . Seventeen really defferent from others.. they all have anything and so talented even they have 13 people but THEY ALL TALENTED. They really born to be Idols. Dont forget about their personality too..and their visual.I know its a lot boy group who has perfectly visual but i stan a group not only just because the visual but first i stan for the talent :V and luckly SVT have anything not just talent. Its so hard to finding a group who have everything Ps : Sorry i know its too longg :V
@@neurotic0227 same , first i watch Adore U MV im not really like it :V its not my style but yeah i listen it again and again😂 the song was addictive and tbh its was one of the best debut song -.- i mean however they grow up the song's never getting old and they make their own song and choreo from they debut until now and everything was good :v its too much :V but i really glad now every cb they grow better and better .. now their MV was really high quality :v tbh too their content is high quality and they make their own stuff tho:V
"SEVENTEEN...They're just the best performing group as a unit" You got me right there!! That was like the perfect description for SEVENTEEN 💕💕 SEVENTEEN as a whole group could take the Universe
Seventeen kings 👏 they are so underappreciated and I hate how America doesn't want anything to do with them because "there are too many members". They have more to offer. They really are the most superior group when it comes to choreography and dancing in sync.
No one comes close to Seventeen in performing as a group. And that's just proven by numerous awards and recognition they earned for each performance they give. We can all argue that they both are immensely talented performers but when it comes down to overall performance quality, Seventeen is well rounded in all aspects and delivers an overall great experience taking into account the tiniest of details that complete a performance, while NCT focuses in delivering skill and precision matched with their personal brand and vibe.
seventeen are just so good, words can't describe how mesmerising they are, like i just can't. their family bond also portrays their emotions in their performances so well!
@@Svtrighthere2019 seventeen and NCT both are honestly because they have all a kpop group needs to have. idk what carats think they are the only superior ones and then say they aren't toxic. Even as an army i would say NCT and Seventeen are the most well rounded in kpop even though I think NCT choreographies are harder like 7th sense and black on black compared to like hit or don't wanna cry but seventeen is very synchronised so that's satisfying to watch also NCT has a better vocal line and has more different flavours and vocalists to offer so they are also better in vocals
@@excusemesir-mu9xk be fr. Nct have great vocalists, but ain’t no way they are outdoing seungkwan and dk. Svts vocal lines comes second only to exo babes. And for choreography, seventeen choreography is insanely diverse and the fact that they take a lot of part in making it already makes them more well rounded. Also how did you get a carat being toxic from one sentence which didn’t even mention another group? Are u glitching or sum? Plus if you take the group members into account and how much they do themselves, that’s already an upper hand over every kpop group.
i was just about to comment that Black on black would have been a better vid to compare to SVT I wish they would pick mvs and choreo that are on the same level like NCT is my ult group but Regular choreo is more relaxed compared to all there other videos
Oh no someone got triggered even though the original comment did not mention nct lmao I love how some of y’all don’t even need an actual reason to become salty. What a bunch of crybabies pfftt
Omg, just like, when you see SEVENTEEN individual dance, your nose will start bleeding. That's one thing I hate about SEVENTEEN, they make me lose my blood, but anyways, PROUD TO BE A CARATTT
I don’t mean to be rude but I feel like there’s always a certain pair in every video that just... shouldn’t be reacting in these videos. They keep making unnecessary/ignorant comments when they don’t know anything other than 2 little facts of a group. They shouldn’t keep jumping to conclusions and saying things like “considering they don’t have a choreographer” when seventeen’s whole performance unit choreographs their dances, and “this is why they shouldn’t tour in America cause they can’t fly out 13 people with staff” when seventeen literally tour worldwide so many times without a problem. Comments like these have happened too many times in the videos and it might just be me, but the comments aren’t even constructive criticism, they’re just plain rude so it’s quite uncomfortable honestly. If you aren’t going to at least LOOK like you want to be reacting, then don’t participate....
me as carrot and grass .. i really loves this reaction.. yass every each of them have their own skills .. my CaratZen feelsss~~~ thank u.. i enjoy this so much..
SEVENTEEN is the only one for me~ They compose, choreograph and manage most of their work by themselves. I really have respect to groups like those. And one of Seventeen's member, DK, is going to be in a musical. Hearing about that makes me feel happy (because he is my bias-wrecker)
You can can really that about almost every group. Compared to some other groups which do a completely different style every time, NCT has more similar concepts. I wouldn't say they're special for "not sticking to one concept". And I'm not hating on NCT. I think they're incredible, and i have full albums on my playlist and have watched many of their shows. But it's not a bad thing that they have similar concepts. It gives them a certain style.
Tirazi id kindly disagree with the “more similar concepts” statement. nct 127 is a hip hop based group but each song has a different story and sound to it. same with nct u and nct dream (not including wayv because so far we’ve only heard chinese versions of previous songs except for dream launch) like sure nct dream is a concept of their youth but it’s like watching them grow. from chewing gum to we go up they showcased the different phases of growing up. like them singing about chewing gum to rebelling. and nct u’s comeback is different every time, they don’t stick to a specific concept since it’s a rotational group. (but yo the 7th sense’s lyrics are honestly so deep like damn)
@@veradavidovic8034 i think our definition of 'concept' varies, if you mean concept wherein style in music artistry and music videos alongside fashion then ALL kpop groups does that, that's what Kpop is ever since it all started... but what i meant on NCT not having to stick to concept is the idea of taking risks on everything such as having unlimited members, having multiple sub.units and having cultural touches, they're music on the other hand is something very unusual to the kpop we all know... its very experimental to the point that people don't like it at first but as time passed by it becomes quite addictive... idk if you can understand what i mean... but if you can't its fine but to me that's what i think and feel and i don't think insights can change that.. thank you 😊
DoTae have strongest bond in NCT why you replying to everyone that has a different opinion than you? saying that they “don’t know NCT” like its their opinion damn
i love gahyeon they literally just shitted on winwin and johnny saying they can’t sing or rap and that they ruin the song, i really wonder what they’re on 😂
The girl wearing glasses is so me when talking about SEVENTEEN. I can really see her eyes are shooting so much hearts. Gurl, you are my soul sister. I love NCT as well, like all of them~~ both teams are so talented and I admire them so much, but I have this fetish over self producing idols. Have you people seen SVT while recording? Jihoon making and producing most of their songs; Hoshi's drawing/plotting their choreography (those dots only him can understand). The synchronization in everything they do; they are moving as one! Gosh. I have lot of things to say about them but I might write a novel. Bye~
Obviously this dude has never seen some of the members of Seventeen individually dance. Vernon, Dino, Jeonghan, Hoshi, Jun, Minghao, Woozi all superb individual dancers. Seventeen are the best at synchronicity as a group. All the members are good dancers. Plus when it comes to Hip Hop dancing Vernon is no joke!
Exactly ! Like they should not assume something abt them when they don't know them that well Like nct had tried other concepts too but they don't know that and so they consider them as someone who have only tried hip-hop But I appreciate them appreciating both the groups!
He never did say that Seventeen has no good dancers. What he said did make sense. Individually NCT does have better dancers but as he mentioned Seventeen has very captivating choreography. While NCT has very sharp choreography which is more suited for dance battles then for being a crowd favourite.
It just that svt does'nt show that much. Sm has money to promote their son. Hey You go here to show your talent. You go there. And they were actually talented. No hate. I actually really love jisung*nct dream's member* after watching his performance in a show tv. But for svt they barely in any famous show back then. They gain fans and fame by their performance and songs. Step by step svt will show the world what they got individually. Carat already know. But svt prove from their solo's performance in idealcut concert last year. Jeonghan beautiful and elegant dance withe his song purple rose. Hoshi with touch and ect. And if anyone seem sk freestyle dance they will know that even the individual members are really good at dancing. Dk was a part of aerobic performance at isac along with perfomance member. He is a main vocal of svt and vocal unit but He asked himself to be part on that. Hip hop unit also really good. Just watch their individual fancam of their performance. They will give you kinda different feeling. It just feel different but as one they are incredible. Dont start with woozi and tge actual performance unit. It's gonna be a long night if I type this. Anyway you got the point right
dude stop complaining about how many members are there, this isnt "the more less member wins" . look at the quality asdfghjkl thanks for this tho hehe.
SVT also has amazing individual dancer, for me i love Hoshi, Jun & Woozi's dance skills the most. Pledis doesn't really show their individual skills that much as SM.
Seventeen is crazy talented!! NCT 127 is really good at their concept though and they’re very cool and they’re SM so I automatically love lol but I think SVT will always have my heart.
love them both but i personally just admire seventeen more because of the one and only amazing choreographer hoShii!! i rlly admire his talent and how much work he puts into seventeen. svt members all dance so well and i wish they show more of their individual talents. The8, Jun, Dino, and Hoshi (performance unit) are amazing solo and w their group. They have their own styles of dancing. Two different group w different concepts, all amazing dancers and a lot of members but the more the better!! also i dont rlly think having a lot of members takes the attention away from the dancing i rlly enjoy watching groups w more than 9 members dance just bc they all look sooooo in sync and ahh just amazing.
Seventeen's dance has always been about group dynamic and as a whole rather than individuality. That's just their strength. Because I think doing that keeps the dance more compact than messy because of the kind of songs they produce and the number of members. Their choreo's have always been made for stages and performances on stage and how to adjust that depending on the necessity. And they have never stayed in one single concept. That's just how they are. The togetherness have always been their strong point.
Im an SM and PLEDIS stan. when in terms of dancing, both group is amazing but seventeen do their own choreos and song thats why seventeen for me but nct really amazing like their songs is always have different vibes:)
Usually, when they compare two boy groups the comment sections are literally filled with biased fans. BUT NOT THIS ONE! Im so proud of NCTZENS and CARATS😭😭😭
NCT is the hardest one but seventeen also killed me with a unique choreography. *both are amazing!* I just fell on them a month ago :') before i only noticed nct, but now seventeen also took over my attention 🙈
13:36 I believe that he misspoke "NCT" instead of 17 when he mentioned about how shook 17's live performance at KCON gave him :3 I'm totally agree with him though, even though all the groups were insane!!! But 17 and Super Junior, they are so freaking good at boosting audiences hype. They know how to talk and interac, their energy and power until the end was the most memorable thing for me. They deserve to be encore groups, no one can do it better!
Seventeen members are talented people. The mamber has stable vocals and intense dance. SVT wants people to enjoy their songs as a whole. And they always try something new for that
@@rayaden_17 but none of them are the same actually they have a distinct musical sound they go for but they have different musical directions each time no two songs are alike
@@ilyunoh8272 yeah I agree they are not alike I just meant as ina similar vibe not same but similar Plus I love all their songs and am an nctzen so I have no problem with that
Both. Seventeen is a bit better when it comes to dancing as a whole group ( Nct is not far behind) but that person was right, Nct has amazing individual dancers like Ten (one of the best dancers in kpop right now), Jisung, Taeyong, Winwin, Yuta etc etc. i'm not saying Seventeen doesn't, because they do as well but for nct, it's more showcased. Also, since when has nct always had the same concept? Are firetruck, limitless, cherry bomb, touch, regular, simon says etc. the same concept? And don't get me wrong, i really like Regular choreography but there are far better ones from nct, such as black on black, firetruck, cherry bomb etc. EDIT: I agree that nct can dance amazingly as a group and that they have a difficult choreography, never said otherwise. But I checked out Seventeen's getting closer dance practice and i was blown away by their synchronization. Overall i think it's just stupid to compare the two groups. Both have different dances and dancers. Seventeen and nct are both one of the best dancing groups in kpop anyway.
@@skinnylegend9782 hm i think nct hv some best choreo than svt too. idk but sometimes svt choreo its to much than the actually song. but i really do like their choreo at their song dont wanna cryb
0:51 These two, I feel like I’ve seen them in another SVT vs another group video and still they didn’t choose SVT. Tbh I don’t think they should be there reacting, they’re actually biased right from the start. It’s like whenever SVT is on the screen they comment more on how many members there are and other nonsense things and whenever they are actually watching the dance video, they just keep on laughing, it’s really annoying and offending. Every video, they’re just finding more and more stupid reasons not to choose SVT. I’m sorry but you better remove those two.
Too all carats 😊 we don't need to compare because we are so happy and proud of our group SVT and they don't want us to be bad against others who work as hard as them and everyone else 😊 so let's support SVT .. let's support other groups too like NCT and peace 😍🤘💓.. No but seriously I can't really compare because they are both amazing ✨ .
I am a huge fan of nct and both groups are really good at their dance choreography. But I must say that seventeen are more synchronised (nct arent that far behind at all),however, NCT gives us a wide diverse range of formation and concepts with a very distinct sound, yet pulling them off so effortlessly. both groups go HARDDD
@@nyamnyam8947 SVT have balance and their dances allow all their members spotlight and their units actually showcase each and every member.They also have solo songs for each. Unlike NCT that many of their members look like back up dancers most of their career.
@@neoyong5583 as an nct stan this is kinda true though. They say it's about diversity but that's not what sm promotes. Almost all the time the same four people are in the center or focus. It really baffles me that they have multiple subunits but they don't let their artists shine.
personally as a svt stan i wanna say their teamwork and choreo as a group is ?? super stable and good for 13 members nct 127 is more individualistic n they portray themselves like ?? with a more one v one charm quoting minghao he said they kept in mind the formation of all the members at all angles and that,, really stands out to me
Even tho NCT is my ult group and they're amazing dancers I'll have to give this one to seventeen... I mean they ain't known for their dance for nothing
NCT has different concept from other kpop groups especially when they first came out. 7th sense was really different from anything SM produced before and thank goodness the boys managed to pull off being 'different'. However SVT does have the title of self producing idols because the members write, produce and choreograph their songs. However, in terms of wackiness, SVT wins hands down (watch their diss rap battle). I think NCT is concious that they have to maintain SM's reputation vs SVT being the main income generator of Pledis. Can't deny that both groups are over flowing with talent so it's exciting to see what they will contribute to kpop.
@@nomad82912 Then you don't really know NCT. Some of members composed & wrote lyrics, but because SM has high standard, your songs need to compete with other professional songwriters' song. So they had lil' chance to get selected. And about choreo, they did contribute to the choreos, but just on some modification since they had choreographers too. But if you want to see their dance, you should watch Ten's Hit The Stage since he prepared it together with Prepix & the process of Ten+Winwin creating choreo on WayV channel. And about wackiness, don't you know that NCT stands for Neo Crackhead Technology? You should watch their legendary mafia game, a cup of coffee video & crackhead video. Then you will know that they are far from normal..
@@nailulghayah620 their songs not being selected because it doesn't meet SM standards means that they have a long way to go. You have other artists like Suga, Hanbin and Woozi who have produced hits. As for choreo, you only mention Ten vs the performance team of SVT. There's no doubt that NCT can dance but coming up with the choreo is totally different. As for being crackheads, they are nowhere near the crackhead level of BTOB. Please don't try to convince me to like NCT more than other groups. I'm a multi-fan and have been into kpop for a long time. My nbr 1 group will always be DBSK but nbr 2 onwards will change depending on my mood.
Its funny how people said that its unfair when they compare that nct's dance with getting closer from svt. Let me tell you something, they compare our dawn is hotter than day against on of the hardest choreo from a popular group but svt still winning dude. And for people who said its unfair because they compare svt with nct 127, that must be svt hiphop team vs nct 127 it will be fair. Are you really sure for that? Svt's hiphop team = 4 members Nct127 = 10 members. Its fair? Really? Better you make your own reaction vids!
Say it louder :v but ok i got this :V some people really though its unfair bcs SVT win :V Ya'll even they bring sad song, they still can win :V so just admit it.
SEVENTEEN make their own lyrics and compose their own songs. They also create their own choreography and Jihoon has copyrighted and made more than 63 songs in total. Seventeen are known as self made idols and are known for being kind and versatile. Proud to be a CARAT 💎😻💖💖
@DoTae have strongest bond in NCT don't worry 😂 i know..also u are nctzen so you know all about them but she is carat.. she just want to tell about svt's skill and proud about it :v what's the problem? Btw i think we not hate SM tho.. people who say like svt or choice them bcs they are carat :v
DoTae have strongest bond in NCT didn’t you just say winwin and johnny can’t rap or sing in another comment? oof solo stans really don’t know anything about NCT
Haha this channel really know how to heat the comment section :"D Bcs putting bts vs svt is always become popularity vs talent in the comment section.. This time svt vs nct127 will be a sharp battle in the comment section.. There is always ups and downs, more and less in every group.. Nct is talented, its just bcs of SM's reputation that put them in such a hard position.. I mean, they had a good quality music by the best composer in SM (no wonder), but when they put a hip hop/dark concept, well nothing is wrong it is all perfect obviously.. but more people already stick to bts's style and try to compare then.. Also, when they debut and has more members with amazing dancing skills.. but svt is already known for syncronization and self-composing group in the industry (and maybe a stronger point bcs svt unexpectedly comes from Pledis) So maybe some people always expected more and more something new from them especially they comes from SM.. and what makes it a bit worse is sometime SM gives more spotlight to a certain member (idk if it is deliberate or not) eventhough they have a strong potential as a group.. Where SVT has no member overshadowing each other, like if people watch them together especially in performance, they will be like pointing their talent as a whole group not individual.. It is a hard position for NCT when they have to rise up their name as a group.. But again.. both svt and nct are all talented, its juat about ur taste in music and hard battle in this industry.. We'll see them more in the future.. :D
hana I agree. Members like Winwin (who is one of the most graceful dancers in the industry, in my opinion) are just treated like backup dancers that are occasionally used for a “wow” moment when they do a martial arts move (Firetruck). It’s so unfair, because they have so much more talent to be used.
Just like how shitty Pledis manage SVT. Literally 5-10 words for Jun in every SVT songs. I must say most handsome in Performance team yet always in the back at their choreography. To be honest it's so frustating to be Jun bias.
Why is people even arguing about if nct is better or seventeen is better? That is so stupid, like don't we know how to respect other people opinions. There is no one better than the other is just preferences, if you think that nct is better, that's totally fine and if you think seventeen is better that's totally fine too. Please stop trying to compare these amazing groups, their styles are different, their focuses are different, like there's nothing that can be compare between them, and please stop insulting each other just because you don't agree with his/her opinion. Both groups are amazing, talented, hardworking and precious. Not everyone thinks the same and it's totally fine so stop making a big deal just because you don't agree with other opinions. (There are probably some grammar errors in here and all those things, English is not my mothertongue so yeah forgive me for that)
Ashley m my comment wasn’t made with malicious intent first of all... my point in my comment was that don’t make assumptions without being fully educated or informed..plenty of other large or medium sized groups have toured the states before in the past outside of these two groups. You’re right he doesn’t HAVE to do anything...be he SHOULDN’T make uneducated assumptions either then 🤷🏾♀️ that’s it 😬😊
SVT and NCT are real vibe killers! No need to compare. Carats and Nctzens are supporting each other. We're in peace and it has to stay that way😊😊😊
Also, thanks for mentioning Yuta and the gurl who appreciated Taeil😘
stream Yuta's cover of "White" by TVXQ. Thank you💚
And our fandom is so peaceful and humble💖
@@Nick0206 REALLY?
My two favorite groups ever. Ikr no need to compare them, they are both talented af. Don’t forget ‘97 liners are really good friends also :D
N Yuta ahem let me tell u a story
Once a upon a time, KIM MINGYU is not ALWAYS CLEAN he also had a nickname given by carat that is “germgyu” or “mingeww” cuzz he touch others hair after he freaking sneeze on his hand
Even jihoon exposed him.... REMEMBER HE CLEANS wHEN NEED TO
BTW THNXX FOR BECOMING A CARAT AND I LOVE MINGYU SO DON’T MISUNDERSTAND
I LOVE SEVENTEEN💎💎💎💕💕💖💕💎💎💎💕💖💎💕💎💕💖💎💕💎💎💕💎💖💎💎💖💎💖💖💎💖💖💎💖💖💎💖💎💖💎💖💖💎💖💎💎💖💎
''In a peace'' sure...
you can't just choose between svt and nct. that's like against the law
데이 facts
i love u already
This is the best comment ever 😍😍
exactly
so fuking true✨ praise✨✨✨✨✨✨
I never understand why people complain about "too" many people in kpop groups
Like you don't have to learn them, you just watch their dance practice. It's OK when there are many dancers. Also when you listen to the music, you don't think about how many members here. And if you fall in love with them, you will learn them anyways, bc they are great
hi i am natali yah. It’s interesting anyways since you’ll see many different choreographies.
SAY IT LOUDER
hi i am natali IKR!! I could never understand why people complain about too many members I mean with that number of members they could still be syncing is a great thing
@@Crystal-kr9to also i laugh every time i see a person knowing from 5 to 50 groups already but being scared of 1 group with 13 members
Like damn u already know more than 30 idols, svt is just 1 group instead of 2 lol
Yeeeaaahhh true. NCT have so many members tooo, how about that. I mean isn't amazing how 13 people synchronized. I don't really get these people.
"when you are watching seventeen, it's like watching a play. it's telling a story." yes exactly!
It's 2019 and there's still people complaining about the number of members in a group? Okay.
Man it's 2020 and still they are complaing for 13 membs, how rude!
People don't understand the talent in these groups like they just focus on the number of members like wtf what's wrong with having more members?! ANYWAYS STAN NCT AND SVT OR PERISH 🙂
SVT and NCT would already take over the industry if people didn't see the number!!, but the member🥴💎💘
@@seventeenscarat1348 yess
Literally sick when people saw SEVENTEEN and said "I can't, there are so many members. So many things happen in one time". I swear, once you slip into the diamond life you will never find a way out. Stan a talent.. SVT💎
But you have to except the fact that people who don't know anything about either kpop or seventeen will say this or even have this thought I'm just saying!
I used to be one of those people 😔 I would watch their videos casually but not get into them completely because of how many member they were. Took me literally a day of dedication to get to know everyone and now I can’t live without them. They are the most genuine and pure idols I have ever seen and the talent they have is unbelievable. If one member is missing it feels so lonely I can never imagine saying they are so many ever again
Agree
used to be one of them now i love them
saw both of them in real life and like a guy said seventeen is so good at hyping a crowd while still maintaining a great performance and singing. their live was so enjoyable even a dark or sad song like dwc or thanks. they’re a good performer
yayaay
Yess
I became a fan after going to their concert they’re definitely really good
The girl in glasses is me when talking about SEVENTEEN
m00d
Same 👍
TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Dude, same
Same 😂
"none of this group can fly to america"
WELL GUESS WHAT they just finished their LA concert last night. seventeen is having their world tour, "Ode To You," and already performed to six states and have two more to go. PLUS they'll be having a concert in Europe. yes, they did that.
Preach😂
This is my point of view for svt choreo (if you dont agree with me, just go away and look for other comment. Many ppl underestimate svt and i will make clear of that) :
Seventeen's dance is not focusing on how fast or strong the moves is, but the meaning and the story of the song, they visualizing it. That's why svt's performance can be considered as *art* and if you know the meaning of the song, you'll get more depth meaning about it. They make use of their number in their moves wisely and no one outshine the others. What makes svt choreo is so beautiful (based from dancer reaction) is their synchronization, transition, formation, dynamic. That's why *You cannot see their choreo as an individual, they dance in a WHOLE group not only INDIVIDUAL* and if you look carefully, they use much of sequences like timing.
*People said that SVT choreos are easy, but it is NOT easy. It's just they executes it flawlessly until it looks like effortless* they're known for their difficulty in choreo such in survival show where almost every trainee wants to avoid their choreo. They contains maby jump and small details, and their moves is smooth af. It's harder to control your body to be smooth than moving fast and powerfully. This is too why you'll hard to find any svt cover. If you want to cover svt, make sure you have a big number of ppl, because it will be empty (and incomplete) if you just use a small amount of ppl it will lack of smtg
What makes svt choreo is hard not only the synchronization, dynamic, transition, and level (not only synchronization okay) is their connection, it may be easy to learn from individual moves but the challenge isn't about the individual moves but how they combine their individual styles to move as a group. When they practice they even focusing about the angle and degree, they won't stop practicing until 3 times without any mistakes, they can learn their choreo in 24 hours, they make their own choreo, no dance hole in seventeen.
I've known kpop since a long longgg time ago but never really attached and amazed by any groups. No matter how fast, sexy, hardcore, dark, powerful their choreo and i despise cute concepts for bg. But once i saw Ador U, omagoshh, ADORE U, THAT CHEERFUL CHILDISH CUTE ONE. And i can't stop to falling in love with them. I myself shocked too, and that's how i enter kpop entirely and be a part of a fandom
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Very well said...
Yass.. this is really what i want to say. Thanks for explain this so clear. Even i'm multifan but i'm never like everything from boygroup.. like this .. before . Seventeen really defferent from others.. they all have anything and so talented even they have 13 people but THEY ALL TALENTED. They really born to be Idols. Dont forget about their personality too..and their visual.I know its a lot boy group who has perfectly visual but i stan a group not only just because the visual but first i stan for the talent :V and luckly SVT have anything not just talent. Its so hard to finding a group who have everything
Ps : Sorry i know its too longg :V
@@avishafitri7486 yasss, svt is
visual
@@neurotic0227 same , first i watch Adore U MV im not really like it :V its not my style but yeah i listen it again and again😂 the song was addictive and tbh its was one of the best debut song -.- i mean however they grow up the song's never getting old and they make their own song and choreo from they debut until now and everything was good :v its too much :V but i really glad now every cb they grow better and better .. now their MV was really high quality :v tbh too their content is high quality and they make their own stuff tho:V
They cut Taeil’s high note in Simon Says I’m calling the cops
LJN HRJ I was literally waiting for that part to come so I could see their reactions! 😤 I’m sad
I wait for it too
that feeling tho😆
Taeil will slays it, apado gwaencanha:'v
i'm not okay with that, i'm waiting for their reaction abt that ㅠㅠ
127: has 10 people
them:
svt: has LITERALLY only 3 people more
them: thEyRe sO mAny
I think is for the choreo, NCT choreo focuses more on highlighting members :3
nct as a whole is 21- boom- HAHHAHAHA
black on black with 18 members
So
Taeyong
Doyoung
Jaehyun
Jungwoo
Teil
Johnny
Mark
Haechan
Yuta
Lucas
Ten
Chenle
Jisung
Renjun
Jaemin
Jeno
16 members?
rop kun, winwin, xiaojun, hendery and yangyang say hi
"SEVENTEEN...They're just the best performing group as a unit"
You got me right there!! That was like the perfect description for SEVENTEEN 💕💕 SEVENTEEN as a whole group could take the Universe
Seventeen kings 👏 they are so underappreciated and I hate how America doesn't want anything to do with them because "there are too many members". They have more to offer. They really are the most superior group when it comes to choreography and dancing in sync.
Yes
They said same for nct may be their brains are weak to remember abt kings of dance and sychronization
No one comes close to Seventeen in performing as a group. And that's just proven by numerous awards and recognition they earned for each performance they give. We can all argue that they both are immensely talented performers but when it comes down to overall performance quality, Seventeen is well rounded in all aspects and delivers an overall great experience taking into account the tiniest of details that complete a performance, while NCT focuses in delivering skill and precision matched with their personal brand and vibe.
seventeen are just so good, words can't describe how mesmerising they are, like i just can't. their family bond also portrays their emotions in their performances so well!
NCT is literally the most well rounded group in kpop I have ever seen what you talking about?
@@excusemesir-mu9xk then u defo havent seen svt
@@Svtrighthere2019 seventeen and NCT both are honestly because they have all a kpop group needs to have. idk what carats think they are the only superior ones and then say they aren't toxic. Even as an army i would say NCT and Seventeen are the most well rounded in kpop even though I think NCT choreographies are harder like 7th sense and black on black compared to like hit or don't wanna cry but seventeen is very synchronised so that's satisfying to watch also NCT has a better vocal line and has more different flavours and vocalists to offer so they are also better in vocals
@@excusemesir-mu9xk be fr. Nct have great vocalists, but ain’t no way they are outdoing seungkwan and dk. Svts vocal lines comes second only to exo babes. And for choreography, seventeen choreography is insanely diverse and the fact that they take a lot of part in making it already makes them more well rounded. Also how did you get a carat being toxic from one sentence which didn’t even mention another group? Are u glitching or sum? Plus if you take the group members into account and how much they do themselves, that’s already an upper hand over every kpop group.
I'm laughing at the 2 in 4:27 stressing that SVT has soo many people, ironically NCT has more when they dance to black on black. HAHAHAHA!
IKR!
i was just about to comment that Black on black would have been a better vid to compare to SVT
I wish they would pick mvs and choreo that are on the same level like NCT is my ult group but Regular choreo is more relaxed compared to all there other videos
@@pma6991 It would've been better if they use vids from NCT as a whole
Yeah their divided into 2 groups for a reason duhh. Theres too many members.
@@jeonwonu8307 4** subunits**
One of the best thing about SVT is they don't outshine one person and they produce and help each other. 😊
Yass
@@qiankunisasnack9165 why r u pressed? He didn't say anything tho? 👀
@@qiankunisasnack9165 did i say nct is not talented? HAHAHA lol 😂
Oh no someone got triggered even though the original comment did not mention nct lmao I love how some of y’all don’t even need an actual reason to become salty. What a bunch of crybabies pfftt
@@seraph-wt2vy i know right like did i compare them? I'm just proud of our boys 😂 I did'nt even say anything about NCT why so salty hehe
Nct and Seventeen = 👑👑💖💖👏👏👍 and it's a fact 😂.
I'm a Caratzen, but I'd choose Seventeen. I like Seventeen's songs more and SVT are self-producing.
That being said, I of course still love NCT.
Same
Omg, just like, when you see SEVENTEEN individual dance, your nose will start bleeding. That's one thing I hate about SEVENTEEN, they make me lose my blood, but anyways, PROUD TO BE A CARATTT
I don’t mean to be rude but I feel like there’s always a certain pair in every video that just... shouldn’t be reacting in these videos. They keep making unnecessary/ignorant comments when they don’t know anything other than 2 little facts of a group. They shouldn’t keep jumping to conclusions and saying things like “considering they don’t have a choreographer” when seventeen’s whole performance unit choreographs their dances, and “this is why they shouldn’t tour in America cause they can’t fly out 13 people with staff” when seventeen literally tour worldwide so many times without a problem. Comments like these have happened too many times in the videos and it might just be me, but the comments aren’t even constructive criticism, they’re just plain rude so it’s quite uncomfortable honestly. If you aren’t going to at least LOOK like you want to be reacting, then don’t participate....
Preach!!! This channel is so damn annoying in general but they keep popping in my recommended ugh
YES
THANK YOU
Amen
me as carrot and grass .. i really loves this reaction.. yass every each of them have their own skills .. my CaratZen feelsss~~~ thank u.. i enjoy this so much..
"grass" lmaoooo
Me too,our nct fandom names is so many we never really had a real fandom name lol
@@khalisahqaisara5440 I believe we should also go by "OYE!" for Mark
@@nadegerichards9434 yeah 😂😂
I love the way you mention yourself as carrot and grass😂
Seventeen is just really good at choreos and individually, they're very good too, it's just that they haven't shown much yet individually
I'm sorry, what do you mean? You kind of went back on the individually part... What?
SEVENTEEN is the only one for me~ They compose, choreograph and manage most of their work by themselves. I really have respect to groups like those. And one of Seventeen's member, DK, is going to be in a musical. Hearing about that makes me feel happy (because he is my bias-wrecker)
Seventeen's choreos have the smoothest transitions among others
I’m just a simple girl. I see Wonwoo on the thumbnail, I click. 😉😂
Me too 😂
Haha LMAO 😂😂
me too 😂
same
eh me too xD
NCT is the kpop group that doesn't stick to one concept and that's what makes them special hahahah, love the reactions tho, thank you!
You can can really that about almost every group. Compared to some other groups which do a completely different style every time, NCT has more similar concepts. I wouldn't say they're special for "not sticking to one concept". And I'm not hating on NCT. I think they're incredible, and i have full albums on my playlist and have watched many of their shows. But it's not a bad thing that they have similar concepts. It gives them a certain style.
@@omerion385 'similar concepts'...wait-
Tirazi id kindly disagree with the “more similar concepts” statement. nct 127 is a hip hop based group but each song has a different story and sound to it. same with nct u and nct dream (not including wayv because so far we’ve only heard chinese versions of previous songs except for dream launch) like sure nct dream is a concept of their youth but it’s like watching them grow. from chewing gum to we go up they showcased the different phases of growing up. like them singing about chewing gum to rebelling. and nct u’s comeback is different every time, they don’t stick to a specific concept since it’s a rotational group. (but yo the 7th sense’s lyrics are honestly so deep like damn)
@@veradavidovic8034 i think our definition of 'concept' varies, if you mean concept wherein style in music artistry and music videos alongside fashion then ALL kpop groups does that, that's what Kpop is ever since it all started... but what i meant on NCT not having to stick to concept is the idea of taking risks on everything such as having unlimited members, having multiple sub.units and having cultural touches, they're music on the other hand is something very unusual to the kpop we all know... its very experimental to the point that people don't like it at first but as time passed by it becomes quite addictive... idk if you can understand what i mean... but if you can't its fine but to me that's what i think and feel and i don't think insights can change that.. thank you 😊
@@sramlie7013 I AGREE. 💜
seventeen!! both have great dancers but to me svt is more well rounded?? and i tend to enjoy their performances more
DoTae have strongest bond in NCT why you replying to everyone that has a different opinion than you? saying that they “don’t know NCT” like its their opinion damn
DoTae have strongest bond in NCT i’ve ulted nct since 2017 what are you on😭😭 i just prefer svts choreos n dancers
i love gahyeon they literally just shitted on winwin and johnny saying they can’t sing or rap and that they ruin the song, i really wonder what they’re on 😂
김스테파니 who?
wonurixx the person named “DoTae have strongest bond in NCT”
Girl : okayy OKAYY what his name?
Boy : Hoshi
Girl : HOSHII
Literally me
*SEUNGCHEOL*
*JEONGHAN*
*JISOO*
*JUNHWI*
*SOONYOUNG*
*WONWOO*
*JIHOON*
*MYUNGHO*
*MINGYU*
*SEOKMIN*
*SEUNGKWAN*
*HANSOL*
*CHAN*
*!!!*
*SE-VEN-TEEN!*
*WOOHOO!!!💎🌻*
*PROUD C.A.R.A.T RIGHT HERE!*
Wohooooo~~~ "JunHui" btw
@@jerv_6154 it's Moon Junhwi in Korean actually
Like srsly whenever I watch seventeen their chores never get old. I'm always discovering new things and noticing new things. I never get bored
Both groups are amazing and different from each other. I wish people would stop making videos like these because it only creates fanwars.
緑 be a rebel and choose both groups. NCT AND SVT FOREVER
The girl wearing glasses is so me when talking about SEVENTEEN. I can really see her eyes are shooting so much hearts. Gurl, you are my soul sister.
I love NCT as well, like all of them~~ both teams are so talented and I admire them so much, but I have this fetish over self producing idols. Have you people seen SVT while recording? Jihoon making and producing most of their songs; Hoshi's drawing/plotting their choreography (those dots only him can understand). The synchronization in everything they do; they are moving as one! Gosh. I have lot of things to say about them but I might write a novel. Bye~
Every people when first time watched seventeen:
"Wow there are so many people!"
Yep you're right but there's only 13 people not 17 XD
I like both and they are really good but my favorite is seventeen. And i think hoshi and the performance unit do an awesome job with choreographie
Obviously this dude has never seen some of the members of Seventeen individually dance. Vernon, Dino, Jeonghan, Hoshi, Jun, Minghao, Woozi all superb individual dancers. Seventeen are the best at synchronicity as a group. All the members are good dancers. Plus when it comes to Hip Hop dancing Vernon is no joke!
Exactly !
Like they should not assume something abt them when they don't know them that well
Like nct had tried other concepts too but they don't know that and so they consider them as someone who have only tried hip-hop
But I appreciate them appreciating both the groups!
Nct synchronized well
Agree😁
He never did say that Seventeen has no good dancers.
What he said did make sense. Individually NCT does have better dancers but as he mentioned Seventeen has very captivating choreography. While NCT has very sharp choreography which is more suited for dance battles then for being a crowd favourite.
It just that svt does'nt show that much. Sm has money to promote their son. Hey You go here to show your talent. You go there. And they were actually talented. No hate. I actually really love jisung*nct dream's member* after watching his performance in a show tv.
But for svt they barely in any famous show back then. They gain fans and fame by their performance and songs. Step by step svt will show the world what they got individually. Carat already know. But svt prove from their solo's performance in idealcut concert last year. Jeonghan beautiful and elegant dance withe his song purple rose. Hoshi with touch and ect. And if anyone seem sk freestyle dance they will know that even the individual members are really good at dancing. Dk was a part of aerobic performance at isac along with perfomance member. He is a main vocal of svt and vocal unit but He asked himself to be part on that. Hip hop unit also really good. Just watch their individual fancam of their performance. They will give you kinda different feeling. It just feel different but as one they are incredible. Dont start with woozi and tge actual performance unit. It's gonna be a long night if I type this. Anyway you got the point right
SEVENTEEN BEST PERFORMANCE GROUP FOR 2 YEARS STRAIGHT SO YEAH I CHOOSE SEVENTEEN :)))
100% agreed
Yup! I love them both but will pick svt anyday if i have to choose between them.
dude stop complaining about how many members are there, this isnt "the more less member wins" . look at the quality asdfghjkl thanks for this tho hehe.
SVT also has amazing individual dancer, for me i love Hoshi, Jun & Woozi's dance skills the most. Pledis doesn't really show their individual skills that much as SM.
SEVENTEEN SEVENTEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
Seventeen is crazy talented!! NCT 127 is really good at their concept though and they’re very cool and they’re SM so I automatically love lol but I think SVT will always have my heart.
True af. I also love nct but seventeen will always have my heart
So me LOL automatically love SM but still loving 17 so much
Stan talent, stan NCTEEN
agreed!
love them both but i personally just admire seventeen more because of the one and only amazing choreographer hoShii!! i rlly admire his talent and how much work he puts into seventeen. svt members all dance so well and i wish they show more of their individual talents. The8, Jun, Dino, and Hoshi (performance unit) are amazing solo and w their group. They have their own styles of dancing. Two different group w different concepts, all amazing dancers and a lot of members but the more the better!! also i dont rlly think having a lot of members takes the attention away from the dancing i rlly enjoy watching groups w more than 9 members dance just bc they all look sooooo in sync and ahh just amazing.
Seventeen's dance has always been about group dynamic and as a whole rather than individuality. That's just their strength. Because I think doing that keeps the dance more compact than messy because of the kind of songs they produce and the number of members. Their choreo's have always been made for stages and performances on stage and how to adjust that depending on the necessity. And they have never stayed in one single concept. That's just how they are. The togetherness have always been their strong point.
Im an SM and PLEDIS stan. when in terms of dancing, both group is amazing but seventeen do their own choreos and song thats why seventeen for me but nct really amazing like their songs is always have different vibes:)
I m just so proud of seventeen :')
10:00 ME WHENEVER I WATCH SEVENTEEN PERFORM
Usually, when they compare two boy groups the comment sections are literally filled with biased fans. BUT NOT THIS ONE! Im so proud of NCTZENS and CARATS😭😭😭
NCT is the hardest one but seventeen also killed me with a unique choreography. *both are amazing!* I just fell on them a month ago :') before i only noticed nct, but now seventeen also took over my attention 🙈
Agreee
13:36 I believe that he misspoke "NCT" instead of 17 when he mentioned about how shook 17's live performance at KCON gave him :3 I'm totally agree with him though, even though all the groups were insane!!! But 17 and Super Junior, they are so freaking good at boosting audiences hype. They know how to talk and interac, their energy and power until the end was the most memorable thing for me. They deserve to be encore groups, no one can do it better!
Seventeen the best
If you stress wiht SVT because they have 13 members, you must check NCT when they dance in the whole full members in Black on Black wiht 18 members
Don't care
@@putripratiwi2923 salty much?
@@putripratiwi2923 ever since nct made their name as the largest kpop group, I've seen some people get pissy about it.
@@maryamsheikh8527 haha. I hope people don't judge idol just because their fans ,
@@hana1042 if they make another comeback with full members it will be too much 😊
Seventeen members are talented people. The mamber has stable vocals and intense dance.
SVT wants people to enjoy their songs as a whole. And they always try something new for that
Who else was low key annoyed at the couple in black? My poor carat heart
...nct don't do one concept 😭haha
I agree they have done so many concepts only a 2 or 3 comebacks have a same concept
@@rayaden_17 but none of them are the same actually they have a distinct musical sound they go for but they have different musical directions each time no two songs are alike
@@ilyunoh8272 yeah I agree they are not alike
I just meant as ina similar vibe not same but similar
Plus I love all their songs and am an nctzen so I have no problem with that
ikr. in what world they do???
yeah, the girl in glasses thought NCT has one concept, damn they haven't seen other nct mv's nor the b-side tracks for each album hahahahah....
Raise your flags caratssss!
Sory i'm not a carat. I'm carot
Both. Seventeen is a bit better when it comes to dancing as a whole group ( Nct is not far behind) but that person was right, Nct has amazing individual dancers like Ten (one of the best dancers in kpop right now), Jisung, Taeyong, Winwin, Yuta etc etc. i'm not saying Seventeen doesn't, because they do as well but for nct, it's more showcased. Also, since when has nct always had the same concept? Are firetruck, limitless, cherry bomb, touch, regular, simon says etc. the same concept? And don't get me wrong, i really like Regular choreography but there are far better ones from nct, such as black on black, firetruck, cherry bomb etc.
EDIT: I agree that nct can dance amazingly as a group and that they have a difficult choreography, never said otherwise. But I checked out Seventeen's getting closer dance practice and i was blown away by their synchronization. Overall i think it's just stupid to compare the two groups. Both have different dances and dancers. Seventeen and nct are both one of the best dancing groups in kpop anyway.
I think nct are better dancing group just look at ten and taeyong also svt have better choreos
@Ashley m yeah but sometimes their choreos are weird asf but still creative
@@jelenabeocanin987 love yours too 😂😂😂
@@skinnylegend9782 hm i think nct hv some best choreo than svt too. idk but sometimes svt choreo its to much than the actually song. but i really do like their choreo at their song dont wanna cryb
@@dhinaanandita I agree but as I said some moves are very questionable
0:51 These two, I feel like I’ve seen them in another SVT vs another group video and still they didn’t choose SVT. Tbh I don’t think they should be there reacting, they’re actually biased right from the start. It’s like whenever SVT is on the screen they comment more on how many members there are and other nonsense things and whenever they are actually watching the dance video, they just keep on laughing, it’s really annoying and offending. Every video, they’re just finding more and more stupid reasons not to choose SVT.
I’m sorry but you better remove those two.
I really wanted to jump into the screen and smash their heads together, because they're so disrespectful
Too all carats 😊 we don't need to compare because we are so happy and proud of our group SVT and they don't want us to be bad against others who work as hard as them and everyone else 😊 so let's support SVT .. let's support other groups too like NCT and peace 😍🤘💓..
No but seriously I can't really compare because they are both amazing ✨ .
S E V E N T E E N NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN😭😭😭😭💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗!!!!!!!.
I am a huge fan of nct and both groups are really good at their dance choreography. But I must say that seventeen are more synchronised (nct arent that far behind at all),however, NCT gives us a wide diverse range of formation and concepts with a very distinct sound, yet pulling them off so effortlessly. both groups go HARDDD
formations that mostly poeple are in the back lol
@@valiantzane8603 you say that like seventeen doesn't do that lmao miss me with dat
@@nyamnyam8947
SVT have balance and their dances allow all their members spotlight and their units actually showcase each and every member.They also have solo songs for each. Unlike NCT that many of their members look like back up dancers most of their career.
valiant zane the entire concept of nct is to be diverse miss me with ur shit
@@neoyong5583 as an nct stan this is kinda true though. They say it's about diversity but that's not what sm promotes. Almost all the time the same four people are in the center or focus. It really baffles me that they have multiple subunits but they don't let their artists shine.
10:11 She spoke my mind. I couldn't have said it better. I really enjoy watching Seventeen's performances.
personally as a svt stan i wanna say their teamwork and choreo as a group is ?? super stable and good for 13 members
nct 127 is more individualistic n they portray themselves like ?? with a more one v one charm
quoting minghao he said they kept in mind the formation of all the members at all angles and that,, really stands out to me
I'm caratzen but I prefer Seventeen because seeing them dance is very "satisfying" and the dance is in sync
Even tho NCT is my ult group and they're amazing dancers I'll have to give this one to seventeen... I mean they ain't known for their dance for nothing
miep miep awwww thanks for appreciating seventeen's talent💖
@@hyl4044 YAYAYAYA SEVENTEEN
carat supporting nct from now on.. appreciation for ur comment !!
SVT so good but for me NCT have different music style, concept and its awesome
shinju channel ofc they have different colours, concept, style and music. for me liking seventeen AND nct is the best of both worlds 💆♀️
Yep
NCT has different concept from other kpop groups especially when they first came out. 7th sense was really different from anything SM produced before and thank goodness the boys managed to pull off being 'different'. However SVT does have the title of self producing idols because the members write, produce and choreograph their songs. However, in terms of wackiness, SVT wins hands down (watch their diss rap battle). I think NCT is concious that they have to maintain SM's reputation vs SVT being the main income generator of Pledis.
Can't deny that both groups are over flowing with talent so it's exciting to see what they will contribute to kpop.
@@nomad82912 Then you don't really know NCT. Some of members composed & wrote lyrics, but because SM has high standard, your songs need to compete with other professional songwriters' song. So they had lil' chance to get selected.
And about choreo, they did contribute to the choreos, but just on some modification since they had choreographers too. But if you want to see their dance, you should watch Ten's Hit The Stage since he prepared it together with Prepix & the process of Ten+Winwin creating choreo on WayV channel.
And about wackiness, don't you know that NCT stands for Neo Crackhead Technology? You should watch their legendary mafia game, a cup of coffee video & crackhead video. Then you will know that they are far from normal..
@@nailulghayah620 their songs not being selected because it doesn't meet SM standards means that they have a long way to go. You have other artists like Suga, Hanbin and Woozi who have produced hits. As for choreo, you only mention Ten vs the performance team of SVT. There's no doubt that NCT can dance but coming up with the choreo is totally different.
As for being crackheads, they are nowhere near the crackhead level of BTOB. Please don't try to convince me to like NCT more than other groups. I'm a multi-fan and have been into kpop for a long time. My nbr 1 group will always be DBSK but nbr 2 onwards will change depending on my mood.
Omygosh did u just-
Seventeen and NCT 127?
U know how to break a multi fandoms heart.
nct 127 definitely focuses more on vibe and swag when dancing, and seventeen focuses on being in sync and sharp. It's all style and are both amazing!
I like NCT but Seventeen are my kings. They are king of performance, dance, and synchronization. Also powerhouse of vocals!
when you're a CARATZEN+WAYV... I've got nothing to say.... 🤐
i feel you, mate
ME 2:'
Yesss!!
Seventeen 😍😍😍
SEVENTEEN
Its funny how people said that its unfair when they compare that nct's dance with getting closer from svt. Let me tell you something, they compare our dawn is hotter than day against on of the hardest choreo from a popular group but svt still winning dude.
And for people who said its unfair because they compare svt with nct 127, that must be svt hiphop team vs nct 127 it will be fair. Are you really sure for that?
Svt's hiphop team = 4 members
Nct127 = 10 members.
Its fair? Really?
Better you make your own reaction vids!
Say it louder :v but ok i got this :V some people really though its unfair bcs SVT win :V Ya'll even they bring sad song, they still can win :V so just admit it.
for me, seventeen. also their all songs are meaningful and great.
NCT ALWAYS 🥰😍
Gosh I freaking love seventeens choreo 💜 carat until the end
same~♡
I saw wonwoo and clicked 💜
mood
Yaash 😂
me too omg
That's me
Me too
Im just a simple hooman. I see wonwoo and the word Seventeen.I click.
My two favorite groups but if I have to choose I would choose seventeen since they are my ult group
*N* *C* *T* 💚
SEVENTEEN make their own lyrics and compose their own songs. They also create their own choreography and Jihoon has copyrighted and made more than 63 songs in total. Seventeen are known as self made idols and are known for being kind and versatile.
Proud to be a CARAT 💎😻💖💖
@DoTae have strongest bond in NCT don't worry 😂 i know..also u are nctzen so you know all about them but she is carat.. she just want to tell about svt's skill and proud about it :v what's the problem? Btw i think we not hate SM tho.. people who say like svt or choice them bcs they are carat :v
DoTae have strongest bond in NCT didn’t you just say winwin and johnny can’t rap or sing in another comment? oof solo stans really don’t know anything about NCT
Ok guys please don't war about it ok if you want to expose your ult group's skill but don't drop another group.. please appreciate other opinion too..
@stop it get some help I wish I could use your username at some dumbasses here xD
@DoTae have strongest bond in NCT you're very salty omg, in every comment that carat wrote you'll be there. So passione he?
Haha this channel really know how to heat the comment section :"D
Bcs putting bts vs svt is always become popularity vs talent in the comment section..
This time svt vs nct127 will be a sharp battle in the comment section..
There is always ups and downs, more and less in every group..
Nct is talented, its just bcs of SM's reputation that put them in such a hard position..
I mean, they had a good quality music by the best composer in SM (no wonder), but when they put a hip hop/dark concept, well nothing is wrong it is all perfect obviously.. but more people already stick to bts's style and try to compare then..
Also, when they debut and has more members with amazing dancing skills.. but svt is already known for syncronization and self-composing group in the industry (and maybe a stronger point bcs svt unexpectedly comes from Pledis)
So maybe some people always expected more and more something new from them especially they comes from SM.. and what makes it a bit worse is sometime SM gives more spotlight to a certain member (idk if it is deliberate or not) eventhough they have a strong potential as a group..
Where SVT has no member overshadowing each other, like if people watch them together especially in performance, they will be like pointing their talent as a whole group not individual..
It is a hard position for NCT when they have to rise up their name as a group..
But again.. both svt and nct are all talented, its juat about ur taste in music and hard battle in this industry..
We'll see them more in the future.. :D
hana I agree. Members like Winwin (who is one of the most graceful dancers in the industry, in my opinion) are just treated like backup dancers that are occasionally used for a “wow” moment when they do a martial arts move (Firetruck). It’s so unfair, because they have so much more talent to be used.
Just like how shitty Pledis manage SVT. Literally 5-10 words for Jun in every SVT songs. I must say most handsome in Performance team yet always in the back at their choreography. To be honest it's so frustating to be Jun bias.
5:44 - "like a martial arts"
hey there minghaoo ㅋㅋㅋ
SEVENTEEN FTW 😍
SEVENTEEN💗
It's only 127 it's not even that many lol I wonder how will they react if they watch Black on Black 😂
I will choose SEVENTEEN 🥰 i love nct too but...my soul picked seventeen😂
Why is people even arguing about if nct is better or seventeen is better? That is so stupid, like don't we know how to respect other people opinions. There is no one better than the other is just preferences, if you think that nct is better, that's totally fine and if you think seventeen is better that's totally fine too.
Please stop trying to compare these amazing groups, their styles are different, their focuses are different, like there's nothing that can be compare between them, and please stop insulting each other just because you don't agree with his/her opinion. Both groups are amazing, talented, hardworking and precious. Not everyone thinks the same and it's totally fine so stop making a big deal just because you don't agree with other opinions.
(There are probably some grammar errors in here and all those things, English is not my mothertongue so yeah forgive me for that)
Please reaction to Seventeen "Thanks" and "Crazy in Love" choreography and Seventeen performance unit "Lilili Yabbay" MV thank you
Seventeen
SAY THE NAME SEVENTEEN!❤🔥
Siamese Panda 😑
4:40
Now we in 2020 where svt sold out shows in America.
That's the level seventeen be dominating
I need to say in getting closer seventeen are all vocally stable. Carats are proud! 🔥
My top 2 groups 💜
Seventeen will always be up there for me because I enjoy them a lot but nct's vibe and stage presence is bloody amazing!
SEVENTEEN CHAMPION!!!👏👏👏
@DoTae have strongest bond in NCT Dude can you stop spamming??
@DoTae have strongest bond in NCT its her opinion, for me its NCT .
truth : you'll never get bored with seventeen's music and choreo. I mean, you'll really stick watching them for the first time u see them
When the girl kept saying “Seventeen has so many members” I was like, girl try to watch nct black on black 😂
I will always choose SVT.
SEVENTEEN 💖💖💖
4:42 might wanna do some research my dude. NCT is actually about to do a tour here this year as well as Seventeen....
Ashley m my comment wasn’t made with malicious intent first of all... my point in my comment was that don’t make assumptions without being fully educated or informed..plenty of other large or medium sized groups have toured the states before in the past outside of these two groups. You’re right he doesn’t HAVE to do anything...be he SHOULDN’T make uneducated assumptions either then 🤷🏾♀️ that’s it 😬😊
Girl how you know seventeen coming?
Lala urempress I tweaked and was thinking about stray kids lol...my point still stands though 🤷🏾♀️ I wish Seventeen would come here though haha
@@thechigirl2498 damn you got me so happy lmaoo I'm really waiting for seventeen
Lala urempress lol my bad...didn’t mean to get ya hopes up..I mean st the rate these groups are announcing tours tho...they just might 😂
they are talking about how seventeen has too many members when they literally only have 4 more members than nct 127 but go off i guess 😭🤣
Wait until they see all the NCT units come together😂