The Hits for Alex Anthopoulos Far Outweigh Any Misses
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
- After a disappointing season by many fan’s standards for the Atlanta Braves in 2024, Alex Anthopoulos’ job as the GM has wrongfully come into question.
While there have been some misses lately, you cannot argue the position AA has put this team in long-term and the great moves he’s made like acquiring the 2024 NL Cy Young winner.
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Letting Freddie walk is still one of the worst decisions the Atlanta Braves organization has made
Good show Jake, i missed the last few with work & my mother's health declining (she's 75 & still hates the off season as much as any of us). Appreciate you helping us all get our Braves fix until Spring training...of course my happines was lifted this week as UGA beat Texas and (sorry i know ya from AL) but Tenn beat Bama..so short of the Braves playing deep in the postseason, thats the best i can ask for until we start the 2025 season...
Go Braves 2025
Semper Fi'
Thanks, Jackson. Prayers for your mom.
And I went to Auburn, so... yea, I'm ready for Spring Training.
Ozuna has been paid $70.6mil since he's been in Atlanta, and has produced $79.1mil in production according to Fangraphs, Morton has been paid $80mil since he's been in Atlanta, and has produced $77.6mil in production. Arcia has been paid $7.9mil since he's been in Atlanta, and has produced $28.5mil in production. Murphy has been paid $13mil since he's been in Atlanta, and has produced $46.1mil in production. Olson has been paid $43mil since he's been in Atlanta, and has produced $72.9mil in production. The name of the game is to get equal or greater value for the money spent, no matter what the player may cost, as little as Arcia, or even as great as Olson.
You also have to consider the opportunity costs of those signings. They could have had Contreras performing at an All-Star level for years, instead of Murphy.
@@arzdiamondbacks That's not necessarily true, as Contreras wouldn't likely be as valuable on the Braves as he is with the Brewers
@@MassBoost That's quite a cope.
@@arzdiamondbacks Contreras has seen 281 plate appearances from the DH spot, as he leads the Brewers in DH plate appearances, and that would have never happened in Atlanta with Ozuna at DH. Plus Contreras has played 228 games at the catching position, an average of 114 a year, and with the Braves having d'Arnaud as the 2nd catcher, Contreras would have never had near as many opportunities to catch that many games.
@@MassBoost That's assuming the Braves would continue to give Contreras and d'Arnaud equal playing time, which they would have been stupid to do given their respective 2023 numbers. The team either misevaluated Contreras's defense and made a bad trade, or they would have mis-managed his playing time going forward. One of those two must be true, otherwise the Braves would have a much better catcher right now.
All those who think the Contreras trade was bad; think of how bad it was for the athletics not wanting him. Basically Contreras for Ruiz was a bigger misstep
So bad.
Nick Markakis was signed under Jon Hart before Alex ever arrived.
You're right, the original 4-year deal was before AA. AA did the follow-up deal with Markakis, which was still OK. But I was certainly thinking of the first deal.
AA long term Roster building philosophy is Expert-level
Once you hit championship level, he just has to take risk w/ 1-2 players expensive players to make @dynasty level expert
🎉🎉
Agreed. Foundation was built, now it's just maintaining and take a few big shots that doesn't wreck the future.
AA is riding a train to Cooperstown.
Wow. Probably needs another WS or two for that.
Well my opinion is this about the 2024 Braves. I am very proud of what they accomplished along with AA despite all the injuries I think the Braves did very well. So what they got swept, I am still proud of them .
Same.
I have to mention this since Richard Rodriguez was mentioned. No one knew he was going to be bad, as MLB implemented the checks for foreign substances on June 21, 2021, and he was one of the offenders. From the start of the season till June 20th, Rodriguez's spin rates on his fastball was 2582 rpm and his slider had a spin rate of 2511 rpm, but from June 21st on, his spin rates on his fastball dropped down to 2323 rpm, while his slider took a massive dive all the way down to 1991 rpm. So he lost 259 rpm on his fastball and lost a whopping 520 rpm on his slider after MLB started checking for foreign substances. Rodriguez's slider spin rate had never been below 2150 rpm back in 2018, and his fastball had never had a spin rate below 2347 rpm before this, which was also back in 2018 also.
Good point.
What the heck happened with Kirby Yates this year.
That year following the recovery year.
AA the biggest accomplishment was to extend all those players in friendly contracts........the biggest missed was to let Freddie go..
Freddie was the centerpiece of the Braves offense. LA has the ability ($$$) to dismantle our team. Fried’s next although not as huge as FF at this juncture.
And the Freddie thing wasn't completely his fault. All Freddie had to do was pick up the phone.
@@LockedOnBraves I agree. AA had to make a move or miss out on both. We can’t compete if LA or NY wants a player. That’s why this WS falls flat with me but reluctantly, I’m with the NL.
@@LockedOnBraves ..AA gets pay to make things happen.......He had Freddie one on one for a while to close the deal......I'm a Braves fan but also objective...
@@protectpr7064 Matt Olson 8yr 168 Million; FF 6yr 162 Million. Braves had the money to retain FF....
AA should get his Ouija board and somehow make Kelenic move to Philly. No charge. That’ll make me happy. 😃
Haha. I don't want him to go anywhere that he might stick it to us.
This trade deadline was absolutely abysmal. There were no upgrades whatsoever to the team. Luke Jackson was horrid. Alex crapped
The bed on that deadline. Bet next years will be much better.
This wasn't a great one for him.
AA is the greatest, but the worst move feels like Odorizzi... And Snit kept starting him the whole second half😂. Odorizzi made Bryce Elder look like Cy Young. My dad calls me in the middle of every game and he was like...who the eff is this guy, where did he come from, and why did they get him??😂😂😂.
He he Tommy Millone were pretty bad.
Yeah I don't think there are many misses. At least not recently. Kelenic, maybe but I think you would be dumb to write him off already and even if he never pans out you really didn't give up anything worth keeping to get him. Murphy is the most needlessly maligned player I can ever remember in Braves history. Again you gave up a handful of guys who turned out to be busts, a past his prime Manny Piña and Contreras who let's be really really clear was not on course to keep catching in Atlanta. He would have ended up eventually replacing Ozuna. He only improved at all behind the dish because the Brewers historically work miracles on catchers and even then most people who think he's a good defensive catcher have not bothered checking his numbers since the first half of last year. Everyone else on the team is signed undervalue from Cy Young winner Chris Sale to likely future Cy Young winner Spencer Strider to MVP Ronald Acuña to all-star second baseman Ozzie Albies to two of the most powerful bats in the game on the corners of the infield to even Arcia who, while being the weakest link on the team is not a bad 9th best player to have and makes almost nothing. And even in the face of some of the worst injury luck in the last few years he keeps finding gold in dumpsters every time he's asked to. From Rosario and Soler in '21 to Iglesias in '22 to Lopez in '23 and Urshela, Merrifield and Laureano last season. He keeps trading away "all the good prospects" only to pull a Spencer Strider or Vaughn Grissom, or MH2 or Spencer Schwellenbach up seemingly every time he needs to while guys that get traded away seemingly never pan out. There's no way to even kinda understand how MLB roster building works and criticize AA's moves in Atlanta. He's been downright miraculous. Last time he made a bad move was probably Smyley I guess. When he first came to Atlanta he made a few shaky moves on pitchers but since then he's been the best GM in MLB and it's not even remotely close.
Brother I'm a fellow everyday-er on here and in my mid 40's-ish...lol...and I've seen your comments many times on here, and I just wanted to take a moment to tell ya this comment on AA you just posted was spot on my friend...I can usually spot (either extremely young or extremely baseball knowledge naive) commenters on here pretty easily...either way good to have some us in here to talk real $hit about baseball during the off season...as always...
GO BRAVES 2025 ⚾🔥🔥 &
SEMPER FI' 🇺🇸
Good comment, Kyle. And yes, even his "bad" moves weren't moves that really hurt the team long-term.
Richard Rodriguez 🤮🤮🤮
I remember it a lost worse than the numbers indicate.
Here's the thing with the misses or bad decisions such as the FF fiasco... his misses will cost the team for years. Olson... just ain't on FF level, even with his 23 season...FF still had a better year overall in LA. and if William Conteras continues to get better...boy oh boy! smh
I love Alex. I think he is a top 5 team builder in the game without question. Maybe top 2 or 3. This lineup however is insane.
1. RF Ronald Acuna
2. 1b Freddie Freeman
3. Dh Marcell Ozuna
4. 3b Austin Riley
5. C William Contreras
6. Cf Michael Harris II
7. LF Jorge Solar or anyone else.
8. 2b Ozzie Albies
9. SS Dansby Swanson
I don’t blame AA for Freddie. If a guy, or his agents, don’t want to sign with you for what you are willing to sign them for then you have to move on. And he stole Olson from the A’s. I also would not have signed Dansby to anywhere near what Chicago gave him. Trading wild bill is something immediately regreted.
I agree with that. The FF/agent situation hurts even though I do like Olson.
I think pierce Johnson is done. He had a horrible stretch to end the season. Then there was the homer to Lindor in game 161.
All of our best relievers looked kind of tired at the end.
Murphy was awful. However, when the move was made , it was the right thing. Murphy was on the up. He just hit a wall.
Yea, and I think they were trying to get ahead of the increase in stolen bases with the new rules.
The thing that irks me about Alex is all the players he lets go. They should’ve bent over backwards to keep freeman. Olson is fine. But it was a huge mistake.
@kyleknapp1985
A players "value" is not just measured on the field. It's also locker room, team bonding,public engagements.
You must remember the circumstances surrounding freeman resigning.
Allot of "MEva" attitude.
Greedy was also the
"Old guard" who held the Team chemistry back. ( he struggled in the first 1/2 if I recall correctly) then showed up in playoffs....of Freddy was on atl we would Not have had a 2023 MLB MVP🎉🎉
I do think he should have just given FF the extra year despite the ultimatum from his agent.
@@LockedOnBraves
Great take Jake🎉🎉
@ the time we discussed his worth around around. Freddie wanted 27 plus a 6th yr.
Imo he didn't give AA any breathing room. I miss his Playoff moxie tho.
Currently, AA should "adjust" his model. Teams seem more reluctant to trade with Braves, like "wht does he see tht we we ddnt see in player X?"
Braves are a Championship/ dynast level team Now, gotta make a BIGGGG splash.
*go get Soto to supplement Acuna Jr season sabatoging potiential. Keep Arcias,trade off Soler.
#i actually believe Soler was a K-mart version of Soto, I dont see it working tho.🎉🎉
Hate to gut-punch ya, Jake, but I think the Sean Murphy move was the worst big move AA made. That being said, nobody's perfect, and the "bigger" moves he makes does seem to work out more than others. You've got to also look at the moves he doesn't make. Keeping Snit around for another year is probably more about loyalty and knowing he's only got a year left, than it is about a smart baseball operations decision -- if that even is an AA decision.
Murphy still has a chance to make it good. Rodriguez trade from the pirates was worse
The Murphy trade certainly looks bad now. At the time, I didn't think it was terrible; although I didn't think it was a huge upgrade even in the moment.
alex did a very bad job this year
How so?
@@MassBoosttell him mass, wtf is this guy even talking about, I'd have ignored this ignorant comment but since you called him on it, I thought I'd let give ya little back up...lol...when folks post $hit like this I love how they never (never) give any context or examples...may not be a bot, but might as be.
What could he have done differently? I would have liked a different type of bat at the deadline, but there were so many holes to plug with the injuries he simply didn't have the resources to fix them all.
I am probably not going to have a whole lot of people agree with me but I have seen A.A. make some dumb*** decisions. 26.5 mil for a left fielder who never has played well. Trading William Contreras and 5 other players for a catcher who completely forgot how to hit. Charlie Morton and his 100 million dollar contract after all the options were picked up. You let the face of our franchise leave after winning the world series. Brilliant move! 😂The foundation of our team was what Coppellella brought in Ronnie, Ozzie, Riley, AJ Minter, and traded for Max and Dansby. And yes i know all about his suspension which is b.s. considering the Astros cheated the game of baseball and stole a world series and got a slap on the wrist but signing 16 year old kids to more money is way worse. What a joke. I said when we won the World Series Snit and A.A. had 3 years to do nothing. Well times up its time to do something.
Coppy was good too.
You act like AA had to make a move for Olson. Not true. Freddie wasn’t signed.
Don't go that route.
now imagine if Freddie still went to LA, NY acquired Olson and Braves had to take Rizzo
Read up on how all of that went down. AA was left with little choice but to move on because of FF's agent who he later fired.
@@LockedOnBraves I did. But I feel like it shouldn’t have mattered. Freddie outplayed that last contract. He’s a HOF’er and that one hurt. Like some things are sacred. He was there for the bad times and he led during the good. And who knows what happens last year or the year before if he’s still a brave. Maybe he takes down a couple Phillies pitchers in October and helps change the course . No use in dwelling on it at this point. I honestly just feel that was a situation that should’ve been a given. Give that extra year bc he earned that
@@kyleknapp1985 Freddie's wife and agent forced him to sign with LA because of the lifestyle and endorsement opportunities. Which explains why he took a cheaper deal (if you factor in taxes and deferrals) to go to LA than what the Braves offered. AA would have had to overpay him to keep him. Why else do you think Ohtani is playing in LA for $2M a year? Players want to go there to win and for the LA lifestyle, it's not just about money.
jake alex needs to be fired now i think he wasted a lot of money on players
Dumb
That would be pretty dumb for the Braves to fire him. He's be scooped up in a heartbeat.
It doesn’t matter though. You need to spend to win in the mlb. Just look at the Yankees and the dodgers.
Unless you're the Rays, Royals, Mets, Indians, and Astros, as all of those teams have been to the World Series over the last 10 years with a back half payroll.
@@MassBoost💯
Just like Arizona last year
@@eros587 what about Arizona this year?
6th highest payroll in MLB in 2024 just behind the Dodgers.