Mike here, Vanilla Fudge were for sure one of the best bands that I saw in the sixties. All of them blew my socks off, but mostly Tim Bogart in his white flowing robe.
A titan of rock music, Ritchie Blackmore’s standing has led to him being asked numerous times about his favourite bands. One group he has mentioned on several occasions as having a tremendous impact on himself and Deep Purple is Vanilla Fudge. Notably, the American group instilled rock with a much harder edge, with their hit cover of The Supremes’ ‘You Keep Me Hangin’ On,’ one of the most inventive in history. They were also the group that produced the legendary drummer Carmine Appice ... In a conversation with Guitar World in 1991, Blackmore recalled how he met the late Purple keyboardist Jon Lord and he said that both of them loved Vanilla Fudge: “We loved Vanilla Fudge - they were our heroes. They used to play London’s Speakeasy and all the hippies used to go there to hang out. Clapton, The Beatles, everybody went there to pose. According to legend, the talk of the town during that period was Jimi Hendrix. But that’s not true, it was Vanilla Fudge ... They played eight-minute songs with dynamics. People said, ‘What the hell’s going on here? How come it’s not three minutes?’ Timmy Bogert, their bassist, was amazing. The whole group was ahead of its time." - Far Out Magazine 2023 and Rock And Roll Garage
Carmine Appice appeared in a lot of bands in the 70’s decade! Explosive musical drumming!! Beautiful historical video, Ed Sullivan show was the place to watch the best music live! At the time! Remember the Beatles?!!
Im listening to music over 60 yrs this is one of my all time favorites. Loved it in 68, still do. Mark Stein is a great singer. Kudos to all the band members job well done. Their still touring I know Mark is still the lead not sure about the others. Best of success on yr channel
Vanilla Fudge (the debut album) was a huge success. So many memorable covers. John Lennon was quoted as saying his favorite cover of a Beatles song was “Ticket to Ride” by the Vanilla Fudge. It’s awesome.
They became famous for their slowed down, heavy covers of current popular songs, but they did indeed have many originals as well…their initial run yielded 5 albums, I believe. One of the bands that began “progressive” rock, before it was called that. They were among the “psychedelic” bands of the time, the NY version of that : ) I had their albums as an adolescent…
Vanilla Fudge were renowned for their covers, often extending them, slowing them down, changing time signatures. There's a clip around of them on the Jimmy Fallon show in 2011 playing this that you might want to take a look at. Carmine Appice was very influential - I think John Bonham picked up on a number of his techniques in the early days in Zeppelin - and has still got it as the Jimmy Fallon clip confirms.
Not sure they really did their own material, but they made their name by doing very original and creative covers of famous songs. They changed the songs completely and made them their own. I saw them in 1968. It was a great show.
Man you are killing me. I can't believe Sgt Pepper's in one day. I don't waste my time recommending songs, but if I'd known you hadn't heard them... Well hindsight and all that. Welcome to acid rock, dude. 2 absolute classics of the genre
I am familiar with this group, but I didn't hear this cover until I saw Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. I heard the original by The Supremes plenty of times.
I have loved this band for years. The best rhythm section at the time- Tim Bogert- Bass, Carmine Appice- Drums. Now of course it's MISA and Akane. Best album- ROCK & ROLL 1970- try Need Love for hard rock or Church Bells Of St Martins for great vocals. Tim died recently but I think Carmine is still alive. They later formed Cactus- 1970 then went on to play with Jeff Beck in Beck Bogert & Appice- 1973- I saw them live. Later Carmine joined John Sykes (Guitar ex White Snake 1987) in Blue Murder (1989 Metal) Thanks for the reactions- still really enjoying them, especially this earlier music.
Carmine Appice and Tim Bogert later went on to play with Jeff Beck and to be founding members of Cactus. Carmine also played with Rod Stewart for years.
Now even I am not old enough to have seen this lot...sadly.....But back when Hendrix was first playing the London clubs and everyone who was anyone was going to see him play... He was going to see Vanilla Fudge play...
Appice and Bogert went on to be in Cactus and also played with Jeff Beck for a time I believe. Appice was also in Blue Murder and those guys played in a lot of other stuff too. Carmen's brother Vinnie was in Black Sabbath and played with Ronnie James Dio. I was a sophomore in high school, I think, when this came out. I still have one vinyl Vanilla Fudge album.
One of the first political albums out (besides Zappa) was Vanilla Fudge - The Beat Goes On. Ahead of its time. And even Zappa has a story about them at the Edgewater Inn. This is where Mudshark comes from.
Their single of this cover was under three minutes but their album version was almost 7 and a half minutes. You should really try the album rendition if you'd really like to get lost in this song.
L33: One of the albums that never leaves my car is Carmine Appice Guitar Zeus. He is still kicking ass today and is a hard rocker at heart. Great reaction.
Great band whose members played well with others! 😅 Check out Superstition from the Beck, Bogert, & Appice album. Heavy stuff! I think… it’s pronounced AP-a-see.
Superb cover of a great tune. I love to spin the vinyl 45. Please also try Frigid Pink's cover of "House of the Rising Sun." which was released about the same time.
Played in a 60s garage band / 1-hit wonder cover band, keyboardist on the B3 like here. This was our closer. Carmine is great to cover. Check out their other song from this TV performance, Shotgun. Another cover, sped up to fit their live time slot. Bogert's bass solo is sick. When you hear Carmine's outro you'll know where Bonzo got his from for Rock & Roll. th-cam.com/video/_tyQrd1JbXc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ytS7y2MjlU2WzPCw
Do check out the original studio version (album version, NOT the AM radio cut.) The mix by the tthe Sullivan broadcast crew was inferior. Also, give the original Supremes version a listen so you'll realize the wild difference between the two.
The British took Vanilla Fudge and *ran* with it. They profoundly influenced all the big hitters of the wave of British hard rock that followed. Trans-Atlantic ping-pong was still a thing back then -- the world was a much bigger place. Appice, in particular, is a legend. Check out Deep Purple before "In Rock".
OK here is something from my favorite guitarist, singer, songwriter but not because of him, but because of the production quality of the drums, great drummer too although I am not competent to judge that but I have never heard drums on a record sound this good and it is from '75 although Rick Mackay who produced it is still around. th-cam.com/video/A7FOTBdbPN8/w-d-xo.html - also Mark Stein is in the band on keys and Carmine Appice played drums on one song on the album when Bobby Berge the drummer was under the weather. You should probably also listen to it just because it may be one of the best rock songs of the 70's that you will otherwise probably never hear.
Supremes version was 67, Vanilla Fudge version was 68. It is so intense and a drastically different take on the song, they really transformed it into a dramatic hard rock song. The album studio recording is a little longer version and really good. Their other material is not quite as good.
IMO this is far better than the original by The Supremes. The Supremes version was pretty much R&B, whereas this is hard-hitting rock & roll, and Diana Ross sang it like she was scolding a fellow, whereas Mark Stein sings it like it hurts so bad he can barely believe it. Carmine Appice is a hall of fame drummer, and Tim Bogart was a bassist extraordinaire and a phenomenal vocalist in his own right. You should check out their covers of The Beatles song, Eleanor Rigby. Maybe listen to The Beatles version then this one, together in one video.
Dino Danelli of the Rascals from mid 60's on was the pre-eminent rock drummer of the time. The American Keith Moon only better, tighter, more precise. A drum machine. Carmine was insane as well but Dino The Great was in a class by himself
Not really a cover more of a reinvention .VF was good at it .along the line of Dylan's All along the Watchtower that Hendrix transforms in to pure magic ... Early power drummer along with Dino Danelli of the Rascals and Michael Shrieve with Santana: Soul Sacrifice live at Woodstock (find the long version ) if you haven't a must for a drummer
The most over exaggerating band of all times. They were all rock stars. Check out The Rascals Good Lovin’! Dino Dinneli was an awesome underrated drummer!!!
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It’s called talent. Carmine Appice is perfection. And this was live with what they had back then and it sounded fing great!
In 1967 I was 15 years old, and to this day,I still get chills watching this.R.I.P. Tim Bogart
Mike here, Vanilla Fudge were for sure one of the best bands that I saw in the sixties. All of them blew my socks off, but mostly Tim Bogart in his white flowing robe.
A titan of rock music, Ritchie Blackmore’s standing has led to him being asked numerous times about his favourite bands. One group he has mentioned on several occasions as having a tremendous impact on himself and Deep Purple is Vanilla Fudge. Notably, the American group instilled rock with a much harder edge, with their hit cover of The Supremes’ ‘You Keep Me Hangin’ On,’ one of the most inventive in history. They were also the group that produced the legendary drummer Carmine Appice ... In a conversation with Guitar World in 1991, Blackmore recalled how he met the late Purple keyboardist Jon Lord and he said that both of them loved Vanilla Fudge: “We loved Vanilla Fudge - they were our heroes. They used to play London’s Speakeasy and all the hippies used to go there to hang out. Clapton, The Beatles, everybody went there to pose. According to legend, the talk of the town during that period was Jimi Hendrix. But that’s not true, it was Vanilla Fudge ... They played eight-minute songs with dynamics. People said, ‘What the hell’s going on here? How come it’s not three minutes?’ Timmy Bogert, their bassist, was amazing. The whole group was ahead of its time." - Far Out Magazine 2023 and Rock And Roll Garage
Thanks for your post! Great history!
Carmine Appice appeared in a lot of bands in the 70’s decade! Explosive musical drumming!!
Beautiful historical video, Ed Sullivan show was the place to watch the best music live! At the time!
Remember the Beatles?!!
He was a Legend
Im listening to music over 60 yrs this is one of my all time favorites. Loved it in 68, still do. Mark Stein is a great singer. Kudos to all the band members job well done. Their still touring I know Mark is still the lead not sure about the others. Best of success on yr channel
I saw them do this about 10 years ago and it was still just as amazing as in the 60s
One of my favs
More old Hippie music. Lol love Vanilla Fudge yeah late 60 had some kick ass music.
Vanilla Fudge (the debut album) was a huge success. So many memorable covers. John Lennon was quoted as saying his favorite cover of a Beatles song was “Ticket to Ride” by the Vanilla Fudge. It’s awesome.
Carmine is a monster on the drums!
They became famous for their slowed down, heavy covers of current popular songs, but they did indeed have many originals as well…their initial run yielded 5 albums, I believe. One of the bands that began “progressive” rock, before it was called that. They were among the “psychedelic” bands of the time, the NY version of that : ) I had their albums as an adolescent…
Vanilla Fudge were renowned for their covers, often extending them, slowing them down, changing time signatures. There's a clip around of them on the Jimmy Fallon show in 2011 playing this that you might want to take a look at. Carmine Appice was very influential - I think John Bonham picked up on a number of his techniques in the early days in Zeppelin - and has still got it as the Jimmy Fallon clip confirms.
I can't even guess how many quarters I shoved in the Jukebox at the Caboose Bar on the west bank at the U of Minnesota in '67 to hear this one . . . !
Not sure they really did their own material, but they made their name by doing very original and creative covers of famous songs. They changed the songs completely and made them their own. I saw them in 1968. It was a great show.
Man you are killing me. I can't believe Sgt Pepper's in one day. I don't waste my time recommending songs, but if I'd known you hadn't heard them... Well hindsight and all that. Welcome to acid rock, dude. 2 absolute classics of the genre
Tim Bogert would sit in on Jam Night at my bar in Simi Valley. Not the friendliest of people but boy could he play!
I am familiar with this group, but I didn't hear this cover until I saw Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. I heard the original by The Supremes plenty of times.
I have the album Beck,Bogert, Appice. That’s half of these guys + Jeff Beck. I miss original style covers.
You just ran into one! Classic
I have loved this band for years. The best rhythm section at the time- Tim Bogert- Bass, Carmine Appice- Drums. Now of course it's MISA and Akane. Best album- ROCK & ROLL 1970- try Need Love for hard rock or Church Bells Of St Martins for great vocals. Tim died recently but I think Carmine is still alive. They later formed Cactus- 1970 then went on to play with Jeff Beck in Beck Bogert & Appice- 1973- I saw them live. Later Carmine joined John Sykes (Guitar ex White Snake 1987) in Blue Murder (1989 Metal) Thanks for the reactions- still really enjoying them, especially this earlier music.
In 1968 for their first US tour, Led Zeppelin was opening act for Vanilla Fudge!
Vanilla Fudge were quite influential on the very early Yes.
Carmine Appice and Tim Bogert later went on to play with Jeff Beck and to be founding members of Cactus. Carmine also played with Rod Stewart for years.
The Fudge did the Supremes justice 😊😊😊
Psychedelic!!!!!!!!!!
One of their original songs, written by Appice and Bogert, is The Break Song, 23 minutes with a kick ass drum solo.
Now even I am not old enough to have seen this lot...sadly.....But back when Hendrix was first playing the London clubs and everyone who was anyone was going to see him play... He was going to see Vanilla Fudge play...
They mostly covered others hits. Many at a slower tempo. The drummer & bassist later played in the Jeff Beck Group.
Carman was in Beck Bogart and Appice and Catus also. Love their Superstition cover.
And this is live.
Early heavy metal🤘
This is a tamed down version for them. Saw them live , but the crowd wasn't into it because they were waiting for The Mamas and Papas coming on next
Carmine Appice is/was a beast and a legend. Good friend of John Bonham, they influenced each other.
Appice and Bogert went on to be in Cactus and also played with Jeff Beck for a time I believe. Appice was also in Blue Murder and those guys played in a lot of other stuff too. Carmen's brother Vinnie was in Black Sabbath and played with Ronnie James Dio. I was a sophomore in high school, I think, when this came out. I still have one vinyl Vanilla Fudge album.
Saw the day it aired! 🔥🤘✌
Keith Moon and Ginger Baker were playing like that back then.
Twirling the drumsticks while playing. Look at the size of his bass drum. Such an influence on John Bonham.
Break Song by Vannila Fudge. One way or another by Cactus & Lady by Beck Bogart & Appice
One of the first political albums out (besides Zappa) was Vanilla Fudge - The Beat Goes On. Ahead of its time. And even Zappa has a story about them at the Edgewater Inn. This is where Mudshark comes from.
I'd love to see his reaction to the Mudshark!
@@timjefferson2137 Yes bring the band down behind me, boys.
I forgot to name the song. Soul Sacrifice.
The absolute epitome of psychedelia!
My man you have to listen to there album renaissances to me it’s there best album there first album good but renaissances takes it to another level 🟤
Their single of this cover was under three minutes but their album version was almost 7 and a half minutes. You should really try the album rendition if you'd really like to get lost in this song.
Vanilla Fudge/Some Velvet Morning😊
L33: One of the albums that never leaves my car is Carmine Appice Guitar Zeus. He is still kicking ass today and is a hard rocker at heart. Great reaction.
Fun band. They did covers mainly and made the songs their's.
Mikes were small because they were wired and didn't need batteries. State of the art back in the day.
Great band whose members played well with others! 😅 Check out Superstition from the Beck, Bogert, & Appice album. Heavy stuff!
I think… it’s pronounced AP-a-see.
Superb cover of a great tune. I love to spin the vinyl 45. Please also try Frigid Pink's cover of "House of the Rising Sun." which was released about the same time.
Played in a 60s garage band / 1-hit wonder cover band, keyboardist on the B3 like here. This was our closer. Carmine is great to cover.
Check out their other song from this TV performance, Shotgun. Another cover, sped up to fit their live time slot. Bogert's bass solo is sick. When you hear Carmine's outro you'll know where Bonzo got his from for Rock & Roll.
th-cam.com/video/_tyQrd1JbXc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ytS7y2MjlU2WzPCw
they played this on the fallon tonight show a few years back......you'll love watching appice doing this live
Theme from an imaginary western
Great performance! Also check out Wilgar Campbell's drum solo on Rory Gallagher's live version of 'Bullfrog Blues'.
I'll add it to the list! Thank-you my friend :)
the album version is fantastic since it’s longer.
Do check out the original studio version (album version, NOT the AM radio cut.) The mix by the tthe Sullivan broadcast crew was inferior. Also, give the original Supremes version a listen so you'll realize the wild difference between the two.
Seems like you almost gotta take this full circle and do The Mud Shark by Zappa, where he shares a story about Vanilla Fudge. Do it.
If you appreciate drumming watch Santana at Woodstock. The long unedited version. Michael Shrieve is beyond AND he was a kid.
The unedited version.
Some people believe that Keith Moon was the role model for the Muppets' Animal. I think Carmine is much closer to that.
The British took Vanilla Fudge and *ran* with it. They profoundly influenced all the big hitters of the wave of British hard rock that followed. Trans-Atlantic ping-pong was still a thing back then -- the world was a much bigger place. Appice, in particular, is a legend. Check out Deep Purple before "In Rock".
OK here is something from my favorite guitarist, singer, songwriter but not because of him, but because of the production quality of the drums, great drummer too although I am not competent to judge that but I have never heard drums on a record sound this good and it is from '75 although Rick Mackay who produced it is still around. th-cam.com/video/A7FOTBdbPN8/w-d-xo.html - also Mark Stein is in the band on keys and Carmine Appice played drums on one song on the album when Bobby Berge the drummer was under the weather. You should probably also listen to it just because it may be one of the best rock songs of the 70's that you will otherwise probably never hear.
oh are we going to lose Captain beefheart back there on his CD cover
Check Out Superstition by Jeff “Beck, Bogert and App a cee “
I think a "percussion" heavy song you might like is "Give it to Me" by the J. Geils band. Check it out.
I'd love to hear your reaction.
Hi Lee,
Uriah Heep were heavily influenced by Vanilla Fudge
Ronnie
SCOTLAND
Supremes version was 67, Vanilla Fudge version was 68. It is so intense and a drastically different take on the song, they really transformed it into a dramatic hard rock song. The album studio recording is a little longer version and really good. Their other material is not quite as good.
Have you caught Dire Straits "Sultans of Swing" from the Alchem tour? I'd love to hear what you have to say about the drum work in that one!!
That was a Frank Frazzeta poster.
It sure is!
I only knew the Kim Wilde version 💀
IMO this is far better than the original by The Supremes. The Supremes version was pretty much R&B, whereas this is hard-hitting rock & roll, and Diana Ross sang it like she was scolding a fellow, whereas Mark Stein sings it like it hurts so bad he can barely believe it. Carmine Appice is a hall of fame drummer, and Tim Bogart was a bassist extraordinaire and a phenomenal vocalist in his own right. You should check out their covers of The Beatles song, Eleanor Rigby. Maybe listen to The Beatles version then this one, together in one video.
Dino Danelli of the Rascals from mid 60's on was the pre-eminent rock drummer of the time. The American Keith Moon only better, tighter, more precise. A drum machine. Carmine was insane as well but Dino The Great was in a class by himself
psychedelic is the word, kind of pre-prog
Not really a cover more of a reinvention .VF was good at it .along the line of Dylan's All along the Watchtower that Hendrix transforms in to pure magic ... Early power drummer along with Dino Danelli of the Rascals and Michael Shrieve with Santana: Soul Sacrifice live at Woodstock (find the long version ) if you haven't a must for a drummer
Compare this to the version by the Supremes.
The most over exaggerating band of all times. They were all rock stars. Check out The Rascals Good Lovin’! Dino Dinneli was an awesome underrated drummer!!!
Here is the full show th-cam.com/video/qzmZ1GXWmyM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=y-KZ_CMzis7JW__S I am joining your Patreon $10 tier supporting drummers being i was one way back when