I love this new regime of receivers. It's a receiver core by committee. I think it's more beneficial to have 3 or more number 2s than a number 1. Coupled with the run first approach puts fear in a defensive coordinator. Great move Brandon beane!!!
Stefon who? Diggs? Doesn't ring a bell. I truly hope we see the Texans in the playoffs and kick their asses on our way to the Super Bowl. It would be poetic watching Diggs cry like a girl before demanding yet another trade.
Great show! If I had to guess my top four pass catches, it would be the following: 1: Kincaid 2: Shakir 3: Samuel 4: I’m split between Cook and Coleman, but I’m going with Coleman
Coleman is going to end up at his career peak being a mid tier wr at best. I'd say a consistent 600-700 yard guy. Maybe hits 1k once in his career. But usually peeks around 750. He has height, hands, yada yada. But he has the speed of TE, and a weak route runner. If you all would've traded Knox then drafted this guy as a tight end, that'd have made more sense. Dudes another KB. I mean, of coarse I could be wrong, but anyone who's honest and not in homer mode can see it. And I'd bet the farm that I'm not wrong on this one. And this is coming from a guy who doesn't even play scratch offs. We shall see. Dude wont bust out of the league. But don't be surprised if he ends up on a team at some point in his career that makes him a TE. A wr 1-2, with that speed? Yeah, ppl point to Jerry rice and Larry Fitzgerald etc for low end speed. But not too many prospects are Jerry rices and Larry Fitzgeralds. Coleman is not some phenom prospect who has a whole arsenal to make up for what he lacks. I dont think the bills biggest mistake was letting KC draft worthy. It was drafting this guy. Letting KC get worthy was their second biggest. Ppl say KC was going to end up w Worthy anyway. Ok then, if that's the case then why did they move up to get him then? KC wouldn't have done that if they thought they would for sure get him. They saw something that made them move up. They moved up for a reason. I think the bills will have another good season. Lose again come playoff time and by year 3, your fanbase will be wanting Coleman out at the deadline. Maybe year 4 at latest. He'll finish out the last year of his rookie deal somewhere else. You all will be lucky to get a late 3 rounder for him at that time. That's my honest projection.
I think that Coleman, Kincaid, and also Knox are going to fit in with a heavy run/play action game with Coleman in the slot to get the mismatch’s on backers
Love Anthony and Cover1! This was a great conversation - I can’t wait for the season to start! I’m going to say Kinkaid, Shakir, Coleman & Samuel all top 650 yards! Go Bills! #BillsMafia🎉
Gap runs involve pulling an offensive lineman (in traditional power run blocking this is usually an interior offensive lineman, but the Bills often utilize a gap run called "Dart" where they pull the left tackle Dawkins). There is no pulling in zone runs, but instead each lineman has to block defenders in a specific area (i.e. "zone"); in something like a stretch or outside zone play this can involve the entire offensive line shifting their blocks to the right or left.
Gap schemes means there is a specific track the run is supposed to follow. The OL creates the gap for the RB to go through. Zone schemes mean the OL block a "zone" and the RB cuts off those blocks and there is no predetermined track.
Loved the James Cook Conversation, I think its fair to say James benefited a lot from fantastic run blocking, but i do think his skillset is really good for exploiting that blocking. hes extremely explosive out of his breaks and his vision has really developed. i agree however hes not complete without being able to pass pro better.
hopefully he worked on everything, I heard joe brady say that he looked different in a good way. He needs to work on his ball security, catching, pass pro, and fighting through contact
MOST OF THE BEST OFFENSIVE GAMES I'VE EVER SEEN ANY TEAM PLAY WAS WHEN THE BALL WAS DISTRIBUTED TO MANY RECEIVERS AND THE RUN GAME WAS EFFECTIVE TOO MAKING THAT OFFENSIVE UNPREDICTABLE AND UNSTOPPABLE!! I HOPE THE BILLS CAN CREATE SUCH A TEAM OFFENSE THE POTENTIAL IS THERE. GO BILLS!!!
Thurman Thomas in his best year had 669 yards on 60 receptions, and that was before the 90s SB run. I'm not sure Cook will get that many targets. Using too many short and screen passes, that increases the number of plays run and that increases the wear and tear on the O line. Hoping for q good mix.
We’re going to run a Steelers run/play action game with Coleman in the slot to get the miss match’s and MVS and Curtis Samuel at #1/2. Samuel might also be put into the backfield with a Deebo Samuel type offense.
I really like prohaska. I wish you two would get together once a week for a podcast during the season. I would also like to know who between you two who would win in a rap battle?
My 4th to top 650 would be MVS because he can make the explosive plays that offset the lack of targets. Claypool can be that guy as well but obviously there's more guess work with him.
With an offense that looks to spread out their passes, it would seem kind of hard to make predictions on who will get what for stats. A lot of unpredictable surprises last year for the Bills. Defenses also have a say. If someone came out and had an excellent first few games like Diggs last year, chances are pretty decent the other team will know to lock him down. Then Allen will be throwing elsewhere. The next big receiver, defenses probably target too. I'm sure Brady and Allen will be ramming it down opponents' throats to certain receivers at their weakest spots points which can vary between teams. Also is changing up passing to other receivers worth it if you are successful with your main guy(s) like vs the cowboys last year? All for the sake of letting everyone have receptions? I'm not answering that question.
Thank You Joe and Anthony. Joe and Anthony to me the offensive line is questionable. Please let me understand how you two feel about the offensive line?
Cook should never be asked to pass block (or run someone over for that matter). If he is in for a pass play, he should be running a route. If the expectation is the rush will get there, it should be a route ten yards downfield but outside or underneath the other receivers.
And Cook should be getting more passes10 to 20 yards downfield, be one of the 600 yard relievers (with a 25 yd per catch average) and make receiver 2 pay in his follow on contract.
I think kincade and shakir will both have over 1k and i think samuel and coleman will both have over 500. Knox is gonna be sneaky idk what he will do but i think hes gonna have some big games and his td number will end up higher.
I'm very curious to see what ends up rolling out on the field the defense will be top 15 at minimum, offensively that is what is keeping content creators and DCs up at night I can easily see 3 1K receivers this year, Kincaid, Samuel and Coleman, this will be the year Allen gets MVP and a 💍, off the top my head with Allen 3 receivers have had career bests, Beasley, Smoke and Diggs, pretty confident the top dog in the afc east, and top 3-4 in the AFC
Travis Clayton should be your blocking running back if you think we need one. Looking at him carrying the ball in his rugby highlights, instead of wasting a down on a screen run the draw.
Kincaid will have 150 targets just like diggs. The difference is allen won't be forcing those targets to kincaid. He'll be targeted when he's open or close to it.
I don't think Josh Allen is incapable of running screens. The bills have not had a lot of skill position players that were great at running screens either which has to be accounted for. I also think that has led to the screen game not being practiced much which will affect the office's ability to run it effectively.
The reason the Bills haven’t been a good screen team is because of Allen’s mobility and reluctance to work within the pocket. Defenses gameplan against Allen’s mobility by not rushing aggressively off the edges. Because of that, it is tough to get RB’s behind the defensive ends as they are not flying into the backfield, rather playing contain to keep Allen from escaping the pocket. The most successful screen plays have gone to WR… the best example of this was vs Seahawks in “21.
Defense, including playoffs… held 11 teams to 21 or fewer points in 2023 and the Bills went 11-0 in those games. Allen went 1-7 against opponents that scored more than 21… the only win coming against the chargers. The issue has never been defense, it has always been Allen’s untimely mistakes and inability to make plays in the clutch.
KC won the SB w/o a 1000 yd receiver. Having one isn't necessary. Our D is what has cost us in the playoffs...we all should hope the injury bug doesn't hit again
Why do football fans forget all that a player has done for their team as soon as they move on. He did not sign a lifetime to contract. Football fans are such children.
different story when that player forced themself out by causing a stir and talked bad about his QB. I appreciate everything diggs did for this team but I don’t respect him anymore simple as that
On the quick throws behind the line of scrimmage primarily to diggs they do not block it up to the point of stop running those plays. Step one -can't do it
I don't think the Bills should pay James Cook a big contract after his 4 year contract is up. Run him in 2024 and 2025, and keep their options open after that.
Why have 1 guy recieve for 1200+ yds when you can get 3-4 guys with 800+ yards and make it harder for a defense to predict the top target. Im happy with a young hungry WR room
If Allen is going to have to win games cognitively or ( from the neck up) ….. it’s going to be a looooooong season. Dorsey deployed the same E.P. Offense that Daboll did. The system never changed and Dorsey was well versed in this system, not only from his time in Buffalo but also with Cam Newton in Carolina. Daboll learned this system in NE and McDermott identified this scheme as a fit for Allen, because it helps mask his weaknesses as far as getting the ball out on time or playing within structure. The issue wasn’t Dorsey… the only season that Allen played consistently well for the entirety of the season was 2020, the Covid year with no fans in the stands. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that when Buffalo made it to the playoffs that season and limited fans were allowed to attend games, Allen’s performance dropped off a cliff. The Baltimore divisional game and the KC AFC championship were mediocre performances from Allen. Every season since has been hit or miss with Josh. He has 4-6 games a year were he is the worst player on the field for either team. Judging by the statements made by Brady, McDermott and Beane… the system isn’t changing this year either. There may be some tweaks to the way it’s called or schemed based on player personnel, but I highly doubt we’re going to see Allen suddenly playing in time or making anticipatory throws. The reason that the Bills were so successful down the stretch last season is because they leaned heavily into the run game to limit Allen’s turnovers AND the addition of Douglas solidified the defense. I’ve said it 100 times and I’ll keep repeating. Including playoffs, Buffalo’s defense held eleven teams to 21 points or less and they went 11-0 in those games. Allen and the offense went 1-7 against teams that scored more than 21 points.
Nice cherrypicked stats on the Bills being 1-7 against teams that score 21 or more, that angle conveniently ignores the fact that in the post season the defense has given up an average of 33 pts in our four playoff loses with our lowest points given up during the span being 27pts. Since 2020, the Bills offense in the post season have averaged 27pts per game, while the defense has been giving up an average of 25pts For a comparison, the Bengals in their seven game playoff sample size from the last few year averaged offensively 23pts, while their defense only gives up an average of 19pts. Even the Chiefs defense since 2020 in the post season is only giving up an average of 22pts. Requiring 27 or more points in order to win in the postseason is a ridiculous ask, should be easier to ask your defense to not give up so many points when you have a defensive Guru at HC. The Bills defense has given up 27 pts or more in 5 of 9 playoff games since 2020, how about that for mediocre!
@@Invader135 That’s kinda broad and lacks context… How many points did Josh Allen score in the Texans wildcard loss? 0 How about the Baltimore divisional round? 7 The AFC championship vs the Chiefs? 1 TD in 3.5 quarters and another in garbage time when the game had already been decided. How many points did Allen hand to the Dolphins in the wildcard with his 2 interceptions and 2 fumbles, one of which was returned for a TD? 13 How many points did he score against Cincinnati in the divisional loss? 7 5 of 10 or half of Allen’s playoff performances he had a QBR below 60 Texans QBR 42.5 Ravens QBR 43.5 KC AFC championship QBR 52 Miami QBR 27.8 Bengals 57.6 In none of those games did Allen play well enough to win. The Bills did pull out a few of them, but only because the defense stepped up and won them. If your defense is on the field the entire game because your offense can’t score points… eventually the score is going to get run up on you.
@@mazzvidz More cherry picked stats lacking any context. He scored a TD (receiving td) against the Texans and lead them to 19 points, and was a bad holding call against Dawkins from getting in range for a lead. Against the Ravens he scored 7, and lead them to a FG to win a game where the opposing QB played worse. Against the Chiefs he did struggle, but so did the defense that gave up 42 points and forced only a single punt, and against the Dolphins despite errors, made enough plays to win. Using QBR is pointless without knowing who your comparing it against, and in the case of most of the examples you gave like Ravens, and Miami the other teams QBR was worse (and thats besides the point that QBR is a flawed metric). Show me the stat that shows that shows the defense giving up 27 or more points on defense in 5 of 10 playoff games is considered good. The point isnt to have spotless stats its to give your team a chance to win and Allen has done that more than the defense. Besides the Ravens game, the defense doesnt have any games of note since 2020 in the post season. The same way you can talk about 1 TD in 3.5 quarters against the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game, I can say the Bills defense didnt force a punt until 3.5 quarters against a underpowered Chiefs defense. Your arguments are completely biased against Allen an you never seem to criticize the defense at all, which is ultimately my point.
@@Invader135 The defense won the Miami game… 😂😂😂 Miami only scored 2 TD’s on offense, all their other points came from Allen… and it still took TWO defensive stands at the end of the game to come away with the win. Defense also shut the Texans out for an entire half… if Allen could have scored one… ONE passing or rushing TD, they win. He couldn’t. The Cincinnati game he had more turnovers than scores The Baltimore game was won by a Taron Johnson 102 interception return and a Trent Murphy hit that put Lamar Jackson out of the game.
@@mazzvidz i get it dude, the defense never had a bad game and Allen is bad lol Allen has 28 tds and 5 TOs in his 10 playoff games only Mahomes has done more, but apparently you think Allen is the problem 😂😂😂 Burrow has as many turnovers in seven playoff games as Allen in 10 playoff games, an only 9 tds but has made it further because he has an actual good defense and not a choking defense like the Bills that you think is so good. You know you cant defend the defense being bad, so you rather deflect and blame Allen instead of holding McD and his defense accountable
I am terrified if I’m a Bills fan from 2 quotes in this episode “it’s on Josh to be QB from the neck up for the 1st time in his career.” ITS YEAR 8!!! What are we talking about 😂 and “it’s on Josh to keep things on schedule and on time.” When has he ever proven he can do that! 😂
👆🏻 This. It’s only year 7 though but your point is valid. Allen isn’t the brightest bulb in the box. He’s been in the same E.P. Offensive system his entire career. He should be able to run it in his sleep by now.
@@jeffreybateman7314 A Wonderlic test is an IQ test in the same way that McDonalds is food. It doesn’t measure pattern recognition in the way that traditional IQ tests used by the US military does. It measures general cognitive abilities in math, vocabulary, reasoning and is multiple choice which opens the possibility of chance playing a role in the outcomes. However.. it is probable, perhaps even likely that Allen lacks maturity and wisdom and not cognitive ability. Would certainly explain his poor decision making on and off the field.
@mazzvidz You are entitled to your opinion of his decision-making on the field. If you have looked at his QBR since 2020, you'll see that he is top tier. As for your off-field comment, that seems personal.
@@jeffreybateman7314 Nothing personal… but when he’s getting so hammered at training camp ( by his own admission) that he requires oxygen and rehydration fluid to recover… 2 weeks before the opening game vs the Jets… I think it’s fair to call into question his priorities and decision making.
I think those 4 WR over 650 yards will be Kincaid, Shakir (those 2 i see as interchangeable in order), Samuel and Coleman. Cook, Knox, Hollins, MVS i see under 650 most likely but you never know. If Claypool makes the team he could be a wildcard, especially he catches fire. #GoBills
Josh Allen has a cannon of an arm, and is at his best when he puts the ball down the field with chunk plays. Screen passes never seem to net much yardage overall. None of this dink and dunk stuff.
I am sure if you look at previous episodes you will see my comments about Josh Allen throwing the screen match 100% with what you said today. Your further conclusion that the Bills should throw more screens is illogical. Josh doesn't need to learn how to throw the screen because the Bills should never do it. 95% of the Bills pass plays should be balls thrown on a line usually 10 to 30 yards downfield sometimes 40. The rest should be lob bombs even though Josh doesn't throw them especially well either.
Diggs was the worst screen receiver I have ever seen. He was bad on the few they ran under Dorsey, Brady should have seen this and not run it so much. This crew by their physical nature should be better.
I always thought our screen limitations were scheme related, rather than personnel. Now I see where both are true. (I think missing out on the dude from the Commanders - who's name I now forget - sent those plans sideways.) I'm hopeful that new players, staff, and philosophy add up to a threat that the other teams will fear, rather than invite...
Oh boy.....lol Why do you guys compare your team to KC? It literally makes no sense at all. No to be combative, but come on now. Let's be real here....
The only time I see the Bills missing Diggs is against Miami. He had the Dolphins #. I appreciate all the productivity Diggs brought to our Bills for 3.5 years. I'm really wanting Josh to develop that clutch, when we need a first down reliability with Kincaid. If Josh/Dalton develop this, Diggs will be a forgotten man in Buffalo. If not, we'll be reminded by national media that Diggs was a veery important piece to Josh's success.
Hmm 🤔 dont think josh can process? He can he isn’t willing to do it he wants to have fun to the detriment to the consistency of the offense. Its the i can make anything happen out there
Thanks Joe- always look forward to your daily updates. Anthony always a great guest to gain his perspective!
I love this new regime of receivers. It's a receiver core by committee. I think it's more beneficial to have 3 or more number 2s than a number 1. Coupled with the run first approach puts fear in a defensive coordinator. Great move Brandon beane!!!
Stefon who? Diggs? Doesn't ring a bell. I truly hope we see the Texans in the playoffs and kick their asses on our way to the Super Bowl. It would be poetic watching Diggs cry like a girl before demanding yet another trade.
I agree and I Billieve we are going to beat them 🦬❤️💪🏈
He's only a rental for them I thought. Maybe I'm wrong.
That would be great what would suck is the Texans beat us in the playoffs with Diggs having a huge game.
we could do it twice.. once in the season and once in the playoffs. Now that would be poetic 😂
Well he’s a free agent so… can’t really demand a trade unless they franchise him
This season is gonna be so fascinating for us bills fans. So many unknowns. It’s gonna make this season that much more fun to watch
Great show! If I had to guess my top four pass catches, it would be the following:
1: Kincaid
2: Shakir
3: Samuel
4: I’m split between Cook and Coleman, but I’m going with Coleman
I agree. But I’d consider Knox for that 4th spot as well. It’ll probably be Coleman tho
I see it just like that. I have been very critical of knox, but he has the talent to break out. @@sprawlz6466
Coleman is going to end up at his career peak being a mid tier wr at best. I'd say a consistent 600-700 yard guy. Maybe hits 1k once in his career. But usually peeks around 750. He has height, hands, yada yada. But he has the speed of TE, and a weak route runner. If you all would've traded Knox then drafted this guy as a tight end, that'd have made more sense. Dudes another KB. I mean, of coarse I could be wrong, but anyone who's honest and not in homer mode can see it. And I'd bet the farm that I'm not wrong on this one. And this is coming from a guy who doesn't even play scratch offs. We shall see. Dude wont bust out of the league. But don't be surprised if he ends up on a team at some point in his career that makes him a TE. A wr 1-2, with that speed? Yeah, ppl point to Jerry rice and Larry Fitzgerald etc for low end speed. But not too many prospects are Jerry rices and Larry Fitzgeralds. Coleman is not some phenom prospect who has a whole arsenal to make up for what he lacks. I dont think the bills biggest mistake was letting KC draft worthy. It was drafting this guy. Letting KC get worthy was their second biggest. Ppl say KC was going to end up w Worthy anyway. Ok then, if that's the case then why did they move up to get him then? KC wouldn't have done that if they thought they would for sure get him. They saw something that made them move up. They moved up for a reason. I think the bills will have another good season. Lose again come playoff time and by year 3, your fanbase will be wanting Coleman out at the deadline. Maybe year 4 at latest. He'll finish out the last year of his rookie deal somewhere else. You all will be lucky to get a late 3 rounder for him at that time. That's my honest projection.
Really? You erased my comment? Wow.. I thought this was social media. I was being social.
I think that Coleman, Kincaid, and also Knox are going to fit in with a heavy run/play action game with Coleman in the slot to get the mismatch’s on backers
My four for over 650....Kincaid, Samuel, Shakir and......here we go....Claypool!!
#RunRayRun I can’t wait to watch Ray Davis impress and prove his worth. Great content and info.
Love Anthony and Cover1! This was a great conversation - I can’t wait for the season to start! I’m going to say Kinkaid, Shakir, Coleman & Samuel all top 650 yards! Go Bills! #BillsMafia🎉
Class act with the tag team of Joe and the Ant!
Great conversation with you and Anthony! Always bringing it. Still not used to the new Stinger, not bad, just not used to it
Joe could you explain gap scheme runs vs zone again. I just don’t recognize the difference.
Gap runs involve pulling an offensive lineman (in traditional power run blocking this is usually an interior offensive lineman, but the Bills often utilize a gap run called "Dart" where they pull the left tackle Dawkins). There is no pulling in zone runs, but instead each lineman has to block defenders in a specific area (i.e. "zone"); in something like a stretch or outside zone play this can involve the entire offensive line shifting their blocks to the right or left.
Gap schemes means there is a specific track the run is supposed to follow. The OL creates the gap for the RB to go through. Zone schemes mean the OL block a "zone" and the RB cuts off those blocks and there is no predetermined track.
@@LockedOnBills -Thank you Joe! Got it!
The word that Ant was looking for is Synergy.
Loved the James Cook Conversation, I think its fair to say James benefited a lot from fantastic run blocking, but i do think his skillset is really good for exploiting that blocking. hes extremely explosive out of his breaks and his vision has really developed. i agree however hes not complete without being able to pass pro better.
hopefully he worked on everything, I heard joe brady say that he looked different in a good way. He needs to work on his ball security, catching, pass pro, and fighting through contact
MOST OF THE BEST OFFENSIVE GAMES I'VE EVER SEEN ANY TEAM PLAY WAS WHEN THE BALL WAS DISTRIBUTED TO MANY RECEIVERS AND THE RUN GAME WAS EFFECTIVE TOO MAKING THAT OFFENSIVE UNPREDICTABLE AND UNSTOPPABLE!! I HOPE THE BILLS CAN CREATE SUCH A TEAM OFFENSE THE POTENTIAL IS THERE. GO BILLS!!!
Shocker, this episode went over.
Ant's a great guest. This show, Cover1, and Buffalo Plus. Bills Mafia is lucky!
Awesome show guys.
Glad you enjoyed it!
First three and i believe Coleman!
Thurman Thomas in his best year had 669 yards on 60 receptions, and that was before the 90s SB run. I'm not sure Cook will get that many targets.
Using too many short and screen passes, that increases the number of plays run and that increases the wear and tear on the O line. Hoping for q good mix.
Dig the new intro!!
We’re going to run a Steelers run/play action game with Coleman in the slot to get the miss match’s and MVS and Curtis Samuel at #1/2.
Samuel might also be put into the backfield with a Deebo Samuel type offense.
Let's go!!!!
I really like prohaska. I wish you two would get together once a week for a podcast during the season. I would also like to know who between you two who would win in a rap battle?
Kincaid, Shakir, Samuels, and KEON. Yes, I said that. Mostly bc I bot his jersey and I would love for him to be a break out star. It COULD happen...
My 4th to top 650 would be MVS because he can make the explosive plays that offset the lack of targets. Claypool can be that guy as well but obviously there's more guess work with him.
With an offense that looks to spread out their passes, it would seem kind of hard to make predictions on who will get what for stats. A lot of unpredictable surprises last year for the Bills. Defenses also have a say. If someone came out and had an excellent first few games like Diggs last year, chances are pretty decent the other team will know to lock him down. Then Allen will be throwing elsewhere. The next big receiver, defenses probably target too. I'm sure Brady and Allen will be ramming it down opponents' throats to certain receivers at their weakest spots points which can vary between teams.
Also is changing up passing to other receivers worth it if you are successful with your main guy(s) like vs the cowboys last year? All for the sake of letting everyone have receptions? I'm not answering that question.
1. Coleman
2. Samuel
3. Cook
4. Kincade/Knox
What no one seems to realize in the TE position on our team will be used underneath.
Shakir…😂
@@COYSNY i think he’s best served our team in the same role but his production will be up to him and YAC
Love the Braves jersey
I think chase claypool is going to emerge as a top 10 WR
Thank You Joe and Anthony. Joe and Anthony to me the offensive line is questionable. Please let me understand how you two feel about the offensive line?
I am under the impression mack hollins will light up the target board and anticipate him to be a mentor role for Coleman
Heck yeah pro ant.
I think Joe wakes up in a cold sweat when he has a nightmare about paying running backs.
Cook should never be asked to pass block (or run someone over for that matter). If he is in for a pass play, he should be running a route. If the expectation is the rush will get there, it should be a route ten yards downfield but outside or underneath the other receivers.
And Cook should be getting more passes10 to 20 yards downfield, be one of the 600 yard relievers (with a 25 yd per catch average) and make receiver 2 pay in his follow on contract.
I say the passing offense will be BETTER than last season also the running game will be better due to wr who are willing and able to run block 🎉
I go Kincaid, Shakir, Samuel and Coleman. My spoiler is Knox, if he stays healthy and avoids the dropsies.
I think kincade and shakir will both have over 1k and i think samuel and coleman will both have over 500. Knox is gonna be sneaky idk what he will do but i think hes gonna have some big games and his td number will end up higher.
I'm very curious to see what ends up rolling out on the field the defense will be top 15 at minimum, offensively that is what is keeping content creators and DCs up at night I can easily see 3 1K receivers this year, Kincaid, Samuel and Coleman, this will be the year Allen gets MVP and a 💍, off the top my head with Allen 3 receivers have had career bests, Beasley, Smoke and Diggs, pretty confident the top dog in the afc east, and top 3-4 in the AFC
Travis Clayton should be your blocking running back if you think we need one. Looking at him carrying the ball in his rugby highlights, instead of wasting a down on a screen run the draw.
Kincaid will have 150 targets just like diggs. The difference is allen won't be forcing those targets to kincaid. He'll be targeted when he's open or close to it.
I think people are sleeping on ray Davis. He reminds me of Thurman n Brian Westbrook.
Agree!!! Not much on Ray. I sure hope Josh gives him a chance. He’s a beast. I want to see Ray run!!!
I don't think Josh Allen is incapable of running screens. The bills have not had a lot of skill position players that were great at running screens either which has to be accounted for. I also think that has led to the screen game not being practiced much which will affect the office's ability to run it effectively.
The reason the Bills haven’t been a good screen team is because of Allen’s mobility and reluctance to work within the pocket.
Defenses gameplan against Allen’s mobility by not rushing aggressively off the edges. Because of that, it is tough to get RB’s behind the defensive ends as they are not flying into the backfield, rather playing contain to keep Allen from escaping the pocket.
The most successful screen plays have gone to WR… the best example of this was vs Seahawks in “21.
@@mazzvidz agreed. I'm simply rebutting the notion that Josh cannot do it.
Talk D…. That’s the issue ….And always been …. The O is exciting and new for sure …. Deserves talk … but D is most important at this point
Defense, including playoffs… held 11 teams to 21 or fewer points in 2023 and the Bills went 11-0 in those games.
Allen went 1-7 against opponents that scored more than 21… the only win coming against the chargers.
The issue has never been defense, it has always been Allen’s untimely mistakes and inability to make plays in the clutch.
KC won the SB w/o a 1000 yd receiver. Having one isn't necessary. Our D is what has cost us in the playoffs...we all should hope the injury bug doesn't hit again
100 percent with you on the D
Why do football fans forget all that a player has done for their team as soon as they move on. He did not sign a lifetime to contract. Football fans are such children.
different story when that player forced themself out by causing a stir and talked bad about his QB. I appreciate everything diggs did for this team but I don’t respect him anymore simple as that
Joe and AntMan in the moooornin’
Hey. U coulda ended the show @ 2:11 ... according to majority of national media !! 😀😂
Ha!
That guy !! Is no longer that guy😁 we are going to be better than those that are talking smack.. let's Goooooooooo!!!!!!!!🏈💪🦬❤️🎉
On the quick throws behind the line of scrimmage primarily to diggs they do not block it up to the point of stop running those plays. Step one -can't do it
Loud, we can just stop talking about digs.We got other wireless receivers we need to speak about.Now that dude's gone let it be gone
I don't think the Bills should pay James Cook a big contract after his 4 year contract is up. Run him in 2024 and 2025, and keep their options open after that.
Joe-Ant is basically Jordan-Pippen… only it’s two jordans
Alternatively, Khalil Shakir is the only Bills receiver who has ever dropped a pass from Josh Allen. Go Bills!!
Why have 1 guy recieve for 1200+ yds when you can get 3-4 guys with 800+ yards and make it harder for a defense to predict the top target. Im happy with a young hungry WR room
Mack Hollins 700+ yards with Josh 'Allen he had 690 with Carr / Raiders. Wake up !
Yea cuz they needed him too Mack Hollins is not gonna be used as much if he even makes the roster lmao
That’s a nice theory but doesn’t translate to reality.
If Allen is going to have to win games cognitively or ( from the neck up) ….. it’s going to be a looooooong season.
Dorsey deployed the same E.P. Offense that Daboll did. The system never changed and Dorsey was well versed in this system, not only from his time in Buffalo but also with Cam Newton in Carolina. Daboll learned this system in NE and McDermott identified this scheme as a fit for Allen, because it helps mask his weaknesses as far as getting the ball out on time or playing within structure.
The issue wasn’t Dorsey… the only season that Allen played consistently well for the entirety of the season was 2020, the Covid year with no fans in the stands.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that when Buffalo made it to the playoffs that season and limited fans were allowed to attend games, Allen’s performance dropped off a cliff. The Baltimore divisional game and the KC AFC championship were mediocre performances from Allen.
Every season since has been hit or miss with Josh. He has 4-6 games a year were he is the worst player on the field for either team.
Judging by the statements made by Brady, McDermott and Beane… the system isn’t changing this year either. There may be some tweaks to the way it’s called or schemed based on player personnel, but I highly doubt we’re going to see Allen suddenly playing in time or making anticipatory throws.
The reason that the Bills were so successful down the stretch last season is because they leaned heavily into the run game to limit Allen’s turnovers AND the addition of Douglas solidified the defense.
I’ve said it 100 times and I’ll keep repeating. Including playoffs, Buffalo’s defense held eleven teams to 21 points or less and they went 11-0 in those games. Allen and the offense went 1-7 against teams that scored more than 21 points.
Nice cherrypicked stats on the Bills being 1-7 against teams that score 21 or more, that angle conveniently ignores the fact that in the post season the defense has given up an average of 33 pts in our four playoff loses with our lowest points given up during the span being 27pts. Since 2020, the Bills offense in the post season have averaged 27pts per game, while the defense has been giving up an average of 25pts
For a comparison, the Bengals in their seven game playoff sample size from the last few year averaged offensively 23pts, while their defense only gives up an average of 19pts. Even the Chiefs defense since 2020 in the post season is only giving up an average of 22pts.
Requiring 27 or more points in order to win in the postseason is a ridiculous ask, should be easier to ask your defense to not give up so many points when you have a defensive Guru at HC. The Bills defense has given up 27 pts or more in 5 of 9 playoff games since 2020, how about that for mediocre!
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That’s kinda broad and lacks context…
How many points did Josh Allen score in the Texans wildcard loss?
0
How about the Baltimore divisional round?
7
The AFC championship vs the Chiefs? 1 TD in 3.5 quarters and another in garbage time when the game had already been decided.
How many points did Allen hand to the Dolphins in the wildcard with his 2 interceptions and 2 fumbles, one of which was returned for a TD? 13
How many points did he score against Cincinnati in the divisional loss?
7
5 of 10 or half of Allen’s playoff performances he had a QBR below 60
Texans QBR 42.5
Ravens QBR 43.5
KC AFC championship QBR 52
Miami QBR 27.8
Bengals 57.6
In none of those games did Allen play well enough to win. The Bills did pull out a few of them, but only because the defense stepped up and won them. If your defense is on the field the entire game because your offense can’t score points… eventually the score is going to get run up on you.
@@mazzvidz More cherry picked stats lacking any context. He scored a TD (receiving td) against the Texans and lead them to 19 points, and was a bad holding call against Dawkins from getting in range for a lead. Against the Ravens he scored 7, and lead them to a FG to win a game where the opposing QB played worse. Against the Chiefs he did struggle, but so did the defense that gave up 42 points and forced only a single punt, and against the Dolphins despite errors, made enough plays to win. Using QBR is pointless without knowing who your comparing it against, and in the case of most of the examples you gave like Ravens, and Miami the other teams QBR was worse (and thats besides the point that QBR is a flawed metric). Show me the stat that shows that shows the defense giving up 27 or more points on defense in 5 of 10 playoff games is considered good.
The point isnt to have spotless stats its to give your team a chance to win and Allen has done that more than the defense. Besides the Ravens game, the defense doesnt have any games of note since 2020 in the post season.
The same way you can talk about 1 TD in 3.5 quarters against the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game, I can say the Bills defense didnt force a punt until 3.5 quarters against a underpowered Chiefs defense.
Your arguments are completely biased against Allen an you never seem to criticize the defense at all, which is ultimately my point.
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The defense won the Miami game…
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Miami only scored 2 TD’s on offense, all their other points came from Allen… and it still took TWO defensive stands at the end of the game to come away with the win.
Defense also shut the Texans out for an entire half… if Allen could have scored one… ONE passing or rushing TD, they win. He couldn’t.
The Cincinnati game he had more turnovers than scores
The Baltimore game was won by a Taron Johnson 102 interception return and a Trent Murphy hit that put Lamar Jackson out of the game.
@@mazzvidz i get it dude, the defense never had a bad game and Allen is bad lol
Allen has 28 tds and 5 TOs in his 10 playoff games only Mahomes has done more, but apparently you think Allen is the problem 😂😂😂
Burrow has as many turnovers in seven playoff games as Allen in 10 playoff games, an only 9 tds but has made it further because he has an actual good defense and not a choking defense like the Bills that you think is so good.
You know you cant defend the defense being bad, so you rather deflect and blame Allen instead of holding McD and his defense accountable
Yall better get used to paying RBs , cause RBs are making a comeback as Offenses move back to running the ball.
I am terrified if I’m a Bills fan from 2 quotes in this episode “it’s on Josh to be QB from the neck up for the 1st time in his career.” ITS YEAR 8!!! What are we talking about 😂 and “it’s on Josh to keep things on schedule and on time.” When has he ever proven he can do that! 😂
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This.
It’s only year 7 though but your point is valid. Allen isn’t the brightest bulb in the box. He’s been in the same E.P. Offensive system his entire career. He should be able to run it in his sleep by now.
No. Allen had a 37 Wonderlic, correlating to a very high IQ. Also, he was a great student. He's very bright.
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A Wonderlic test is an IQ test in the same way that McDonalds is food. It doesn’t measure pattern recognition in the way that traditional IQ tests used by the US military does. It measures general cognitive abilities in math, vocabulary, reasoning and is multiple choice which opens the possibility of chance playing a role in the outcomes.
However.. it is probable, perhaps even likely that Allen lacks maturity and wisdom and not cognitive ability. Would certainly explain his poor decision making on and off the field.
@mazzvidz You are entitled to your opinion of his decision-making on the field. If you have looked at his QBR since 2020, you'll see that he is top tier. As for your off-field comment, that seems personal.
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Nothing personal… but when he’s getting so hammered at training camp ( by his own admission) that he requires oxygen and rehydration fluid to recover… 2 weeks before the opening game vs the Jets… I think it’s fair to call into question his priorities and decision making.
I think those 4 WR over 650 yards will be Kincaid, Shakir (those 2 i see as interchangeable in order), Samuel and Coleman. Cook, Knox, Hollins, MVS i see under 650 most likely but you never know. If Claypool makes the team he could be a wildcard, especially he catches fire. #GoBills
Josh Allen has a cannon of an arm, and is at his best when he puts the ball down the field with chunk plays. Screen passes never seem to net much yardage overall. None of this dink and dunk stuff.
Not true Andy Isabella caught a pass shakir is the only WR to catch a TD
Isabella did not catch a pass
I think ti will be clome cook Shakira and the new running back
I am sure if you look at previous episodes you will see my comments about Josh Allen throwing the screen match 100% with what you said today. Your further conclusion that the Bills should throw more screens is illogical. Josh doesn't need to learn how to throw the screen because the Bills should never do it. 95% of the Bills pass plays should be balls thrown on a line usually 10 to 30 yards downfield sometimes 40. The rest should be lob bombs even though Josh doesn't throw them especially well either.
I like your show man, but you act like the bills is some innocent football team that deserves to win a super bowl
If all yr gonna do is be a hater go somewhere else with that shit
Dawson knox
Why is EVERYBODY sleeping on knox???????????????
Andy Isabella & Justin shorter never caught a pass from josh during a game???? Fact check time 💡💡💡💡
During a regular season game? I believe that is a fact. I recall one play designed for Isabella last season, but I think Josh overthrew him.
Thanks Adam, I don't remember a specific instance, just did seem like an unusual statistic.
Ok.... fact check loading..... yep, confirmed neither Isabella or Shorter has caught a pass from Josh Allen
Diggs was the worst screen receiver I have ever seen. He was bad on the few they ran under Dorsey, Brady should have seen this and not run it so much. This crew by their physical nature should be better.
I always thought our screen limitations were scheme related, rather than personnel. Now I see where both are true. (I think missing out on the dude from the Commanders - who's name I now forget - sent those plans sideways.)
I'm hopeful that new players, staff, and philosophy add up to a threat that the other teams will fear, rather than invite...
When was this Diggs offense? Diggs will be missed as much as Hill was missed in KC.
Oh boy.....lol Why do you guys compare your team to KC? It literally makes no sense at all. No to be combative, but come on now. Let's be real here....
The only time I see the Bills missing Diggs is against Miami. He had the Dolphins #. I appreciate all the productivity Diggs brought to our Bills for 3.5 years. I'm really wanting Josh to develop that clutch, when we need a first down reliability with Kincaid. If Josh/Dalton develop this, Diggs will be a forgotten man in Buffalo. If not, we'll be reminded by national media that Diggs was a veery important piece to Josh's success.
Josh's arm is to strong, like a hulk smash. Doesn't have the ability to throw a touch screen pass.
The 4 that will go over 650 are
Kincaid
Shakir
Samuel and Colman
First off wtf is this dude? A nobody? Second I couldn't agree less with everything y'all said. bad bad takes
Hmm 🤔 dont think josh can process? He can he isn’t willing to do it he wants to have fun to the detriment to the consistency of the offense. Its the i can make anything happen out there