An Old House, Hidden in the woods
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- This is the story of an old house hidden in the woods. The House is Hopwood Hall in Middleton Manchester UK. This is a very old stately home now abandoned and dilapidated. We explore the grounds and learn about the history of this historical manor house in manchester Britain. This house is 600 years old and was home to the Hopwood family since 1426.
I just came across this video and recognized it immediately. Thankfully today, 2022, Hopwood Hall is being restored. There’s so much to do, and its slow going, but my friend from Michigan, USA, named Hopwood DePree, a Hollywood producer, is heading up the restoration of this, his families old ancestral homestead, along with many volunteers and preservationists. You can follow its progress on his TH-cam channel
That's great news. Incredible place with so much history.
I rebuilt the left hand stone and brick entrance pillar a few years ago after a car run into it and knocked it over if you look you can see the cement is lighter than the right hand one. Another cracking video mate keep them coming.
Nice one Judd and thanks
In my school we watched your vidioe because we are learning about the Hopwood Hall
Really ? !!! what all the class ?
Fascinating. I came across this video by accident. My memories of Hopwood go back over 50 years when it was part of a teacher training college and some of the rooms of the "Old Hall" as we called it were used as lecture rooms. Sad to see it in such poor condition but good to know that there are plans to restore it.
This bloke is amazing he really does some outstanding videos! Martin that has to be one of the best yet. Its a place to keep an eye on to see how it turns out. Was there any more of that video footage from inside?
Hi Gary thanks very much. Yes if you google Hopwood hall look for the MEN result and the video is on there. I just omitted the talking bits 👍
I love a hidden house, nice video friend, lovely transitions, great music and a little history. Love it.
Thanks 😊👌
Brilliant work Martin. It would be wonderful to have a follow up on this, see if Hopwood has been true to the vision of his ancestors.
Lord Byron also visited Hopwood Hall a piece from Middletonia, see below;
Edward Gregge took over Hopwood in 1773 on the death of the widow Mary Hopwood and assumed the name Hopwood by act of Parliament. Dr Robert Hopwood probably regarded Edward as an adopted son as he was twenty years his junior and had served as his substitute in the King's army in 1745. When Edward Gregge-Hopwood died in 1798, his son Robert succeeded him at Hopwood. The new squire was a good friend of Lord Byron.
Lord George Gordon Byron became Lord of the Manor of Rochdale from 1808-1823. He was known to be an "intimate friend of Robert Gregge-Hopwood." In 1811 Lord Byron resided at Hopwood Hall while he concluded the settlement of the Byron family estate in Rochdale. It is also rumoured that while residing at Hopwood Hall he drafted his most famous poem 'Childe Harold's Pilgrimage'.
Written by Mr Dennis Horner. Submitted March 2009 www.middletonia.co.uk/localhistory/hopwoods.html
nice 🙂 some research
Hi Martin
There is a lot of progress in the last 8 months if you liaise with Hopwood who is totally dedicated to the project he may grant you a tour
Such a beautiful and stately mansion! Thank you for showing this place to us Martin. It will be wonderful to see it restored.
Really interesting history mate....and I just spotted the Chameleons quote at the end, from Second Skin I think. And then of course realised that they were from Middleton too! Nice cryptic touch 👍😎
Hi Martin. Another very well told video. Story telling is something that just comes naturally to you. Thumbs up!
Hi Lucy thank you, great to hear from you hope your well. 👍💖
Guy fawkes blew my mind too every bonfire night
I played tennis there once,it was SPLENDID.
Great story Hopwood hall needs lots of love and care thanks Martin. John Rooney
It does John
Fascinating.
Our family moved to Hopwood in around 1970. That's the area of Hopwood in Heywood.
Spent many afternoons in Hopwood woods.
The story of the Hall really is fascinating.
I really do hope the development is successful as at least then it will get some TLC. Thanks again for your work on this Martin.
Thanks Christopher. I used to run by it in 1979 on cross country and never looked twice 😀
What an amazing place!
Thanks so much for this
I walk past this weekly and never knew how old she was , thanks so much keep up the brilliant work !
Hi Lewis, yes the age on this thing is staggering 👍😀
well martin that was very interesting and the films from HOPWOOD were wonderful
As always amazing & informative Martin
Wow fascinating stuff Martin, I send the links to your videos to my Facebook friends, and they always get fantastic reviews and this one will be no different, I find all your urban adventures fascinating so a big thank you from me and don’t ever give up making them
Nice 1 Martin, its a nice old place. Hope this Hopwood Dupre' can do somethin. I've never heard of him. One of my pass times is Actors, Movies/Tv and stuff, at 65 nearly [4 months] 66, you gotta have somethin to do. Thanks m8, keep up the good work, you and yours stay safe and well.
I enjoyed watching this thank you for taking the time to research the house.
Thanks you
My auntie Kit used to tell us that Hopwood Hall was owned by our family. Sadly she's passed away now and I can't recall her reasoning behind the statement. She also said claimed 'we' owned a lot of central Manchester, but again I can't recall why. Great video, thanks a lot.
Any relation to the Ducie family ? Or Moseley ?
my wife is from middleton and remembers going there as a 6year old she now lives in devon
Very interesting about Hopwood Hall - I've driven past on the bus many times but never ventured close to it. Fascinating, especially about Guy Fawkes. Let's hope they make progress with the renovation. I once visited Rose Hill in Northenden when it was derelict. It was since renovated and now houses apartments. At least with a hotel, people can visit.
Yes Id love to go Back Aidan and maybe take a look inside
Gosh thanks what a beautiful hall, so delighted the American gentleman ancester is going to rescue it, a hotel would be wonderful. I wish him well.
Another great video, Martin - really enjoying these.
I’m originally from Heywood and have been through Hopwood Woods on many occasions. I was interested to hear of the Guy Fawkes connection to Hopwood Hall - Heywood is more commonly known for its connection to Peter Heywood of Heywood Hall who was the man that arrested Guy Fawkes as he was in the process of lighting the fuse under Parliament. It looks like different areas of the parish were on different sides!
Hi Martin. I am a new subscriber only just found your channel on TH-cam and I am loving your content. I have recently moved away from Middleton after 11 years and your videos are making me miss Manchester even more. I have visited some of the places in your videos and it's really interesting to learn the history of these places. Keep up the good work pal 👍👍👍👍
Hi Ben thanks very much. Your from Middleton ?
Nice video , keep them coming. Thanks for sharing
Another great video Martin, nice bit of history from a pretty atmospheric location. If the ice house is a similar design to the one at Heaton Hall/Park it will basically just be a big round hole in the ground with some form of steps, it up near the Top car park by the playground with a walkway by it. I wonder if that's the ice house which is part of the sunken garden you mention??? Take it easy mate, I look forward to the next video. Dave.
Hi Dave, thanks a lot mate. Ive never seen the Ice house at Heaton Park. Although Ive since seen a pic of the Hopwood Hall Ice house and yes its a round shaft
the hopwood ice house is about a 5 minute walk away from the hall. I was part of the team that dug it out many years back. its in nearby lords wood, pretty much next to the old boating lake
That raised a few goose pimples. The link below seems dead, I hope work to save this building is still on the table.
Yes I think its ongoing Roger
Check out the TH-cam site
Hopwood XIV
another amazing video - thank you
Hi Jimmii thanks very much 👍
Cheers from the U.S.! Wonderful video, great research and presentation. Brilliant history lesson. Subscribed! Thank you.
Very Interesting, as Well as Awesome, Thank You
Great stuff👍
Awesome video and so much info, thanks for sharing
Thanks very much 👍
Next to my college, im applying to be part of the team that are renovating the hall.
Just down the road from my house too
Hi John, is the Renovation still ongoing then ?
@@MartinZero please make an update
Just watched your Hopwood Hall film. As usual very good and informative. Thanks very much. Mcr and surrounding boroughs have such a powerful Victorian heritage it can take up all of the bandwidth for other heritage. I hope the American or the local council preserve such a historical site, even the alpaccas and ostriches. Those beams, cruck-frames (?) Look amazing. The building looks Tudor/Jacobean in part then part Georgian/Victorian. Tudor chimneys were often round, like barley-sugar columns. Ordsall, Wythenshawe, Clayton and Baguley have their halls as you know so Manchester isn't all Victoriana. Agecroft had it's Hall but was parcelled off to the States!Radcliffe has it's Tower, Bury it's castle and Kersall it's Cell. It was a monastic building, Cluniac, a daughter church from the mother abbey church at Lenton in Leicester until Henry VIII dissolved the monasteries.I believe when they constructed the Metrolink to the Etihad Campus home of Manchester City Football Club, where they constructed the turn-back for empty vehicles awaiting duty they came upon the remains of Bradford Hall and timbers from the 1300's which basically lies under the turn-back.
P.S. in your inquiry and what got numerous replies from viewers about train lines usually approaching Mcr on viaducts. In contrast, if it gets built, HS2 will he in tunnel from the Airport to Picc. Largely passing under Mcr's southern parishes. ☺.
Hi Mark I think the American is cracking on with the work. Interesting about HST 2
Excellent vid mate. Gonna check it out myself. Cant believe never heard of it👍
Ned kelly Hi Ned. The woods is great it’s just a pity you can’t get so close to the house
Martin Zero. It would be awesome to be able to have a look inside. Maybe you could have a look at Worsley old hall if you've not already done so, or smithills hall in Bolton. Look forward to ya next vid, mate.👍
i love the music I want to go ..thank u it takes me away from my "reality" thank u Martin
Thanks Jim
The american Hopwood DePree bought this house for renovation. Good on him to keep the name going. Hopefully all goes well.
Love it. Amazing
Top draw video bro, I know those woods like the back of my hand from being a nipper...top video bro...crack on
👍you have got a great channel going tomcat..I'm a Middletonian
Well done that man,I used to live in Heywood but i never new that it existed,can you do an update please?😊
What a great grand ramshackle!!
Any recent action on the hotel idea?
Still a work in progress Jim
Check out the TH-cam site
Hopwood XIV
Oddly enough, I believe one of the people who arrested Guy Fawkes in the act at the Houses of Parliament was a Peter Heywood, whose family gave their name to the town to which Hopwood adjoins. Curiouser and curiouser!
Wow another fascinating video, good stuff
I am hooked love your vids
Thank you Julie 😃👍
Ah Guy Fawkes, the country could engage his services now.
Surely they all need a rocket put up them in that sheltered workshop for the unemployable known as Westminster.
Martin, I dont think anybody could accuse you or being boring.
Another top interesting and educational video.
Absorbing story. Nice to see also that on 29th October 2017 Hopwood DePree has managed to source 10k in grants to start restoring this beautiful building. That's what it says on his twitter page @HopwoodX1V.
Hi Denise, really, has he ? I am hoping to get in and film inside I did ask him but he hasn' t responded. Lets hope he gets the place finished
Congrats on 500 subs dude, stunning stuff as always :)
SASHTv Thanks very much my friend. Yeah it’s a bit of a milestone for me. Am really chuffed 😃👍
It’s amazing what’s on our doorstep and we never see. Where I live now in Horwich, at the bottom of Rivington Pike, they are renovating the old terrace gardens, they have come across mosaic floors, new paths, all sorts. They haven’t finished yet
Are they renovating them Brian ?
@@MartinZero yes. You can find them on Facebook ( Rivington Terraced Gardens ), Instagram rivington ) and Twitter ( RivingtonTG)
We went up there last week. Fascinating stuff. Looking forward to seeing them completed.
@@jenratcliffe7232 Pigeon Tower Open Day where you can view inside 23rd March but expect long queues
So sad to see buildings like this going to waste. What a stunning building
Hi guys, yes its so sad. Just hope they manage to get it done up 👍
Yes it loos like some work has Been done looking at your video lets hope they get it fixed
WOW.what an amazing place.
Fantastic isnt it 👍
i was looking at stuff about underground disused canals, when i stumbled up on your channel. Love it and subscribed. X
Thanks Lorraine am glad you did, really appreciate your support 👍
Proper old school Martin !
Oh yes Jowad, the age of this place is staggering 👍
Three of my brothers went there to train asteachers. They built a fabulous campus with great facilities ,the theatre / lecture theatre even had a full size flying gallery for scenery. The DeLaSalle brothers also ran the secondary school onto other side of Rochdale Rd. My brothers and I all attended De La. Salle in Salford. I always wondered about the big wooden steps in the Orwell in front of the Cathedral , now thanks to you I know.
What is under Victoria station, just curious as we used to get the train from thereto Ashton!
When we were kids in te1940's there was an Icehouse but it was, as I remember further away from the Hall somewhere towards the Golf club. The Icehouse was a round brick built structure sunk in the ground and had a brick Dome. There was a hole or entrance which we could look in through down into the inside. It was a good few yards round. in later years seeing the same building the whole of the Dome had collapsed and whole thing was partly filled in.
Hi Bob, yes, I thought the icehouse was in the grounds of the house, but it seems that its where you say towards the golf course. I wouldnt mind having a walk over to see if its there
Seem to remember from the path which passed the icehouse nearer to the Hopwood Golf Club you could see the Club House. "Lady Hopwood's cottage",
Very interesting video Martin! I live very close to Hopwood and the hall, and I am well into local history...Middleton in particular. I also noticed from watching another of your videos that you record your own music...well me too! Great stuff ...keep it up!
Hi Chris I only do basic stuff. What do you do ?
@@MartinZero Hi Martin, I have a basic recording setup (computer) and mainly focus on creating my own instrumental versions of some of my favourite songs. I have a youtube channel which you should be able to access by clicking on my profile? (I'm pretty new to this!) If you can, have a listen and let me know what you think!
@@chrismcdonagh5108 Ok will do
Fascinating!
Hello, thank you, its a fab place isn't it
Martin Zero Indeed. I did a short spell at Hopwood College a good few years ago. We used to go wandering around the hall being inquisitive nosey teenagers. I never knew or realised how old the house, and its foundations really was.
It would be amazing if the Hopwood Hall does get restored. Another reason to appreciate Middleton's heritage. Its has such an enchanting air about it.
Fabulous video, Martin. Definitely one of my favourites you have covered.
My favorite is the image transfer that you do. It is like taking our minds in to a deep time travel 💊 capsule! Image when you apply for a job where it says in part of the employment application: How long you live in your current residence? And you answer, 500 years!!!!!!😳😳😳😳
Nice video Martin, one of our friends was studying at the hall many years ago 👍
Oh yeah it was a teacher training college
We used to get trainee teachers from there at St Dominic's,some good sorts some nerds!lol! Tanx for the film.
Hi Seanna, I bet a lot of my teachers were trained there as well 😀👍 Thanks
Martin Zero some come straight to mind Brian Kenny,from Langley lovely guy.Mike Chapman from south Wales taught me to believe in my ability as a Rugby player learnt more off him in one season top lad.Some music was played there Martin Christy Moore,Robert Palmer ,Elkie Brooke's to name but a few in the 60s&70s I live in Ireland now & am a Stonemason working on heritage so your film wins on all counts with me.I used to ferret rabbits with my dad so a lot of dear memories in that part of Manchester.
Martin Zero Aww so good I'm getting teary now cos I lost Dad this time last year Martin well done! Love from the West of Ireland its moved me!
Wow your from Ireland cool. That woods is still quite beautiful. was you born in Middleton. Stonemason quite a craft, Thats gonna be a big job restoring that place.
Martin Zero no I'm a Slum Paddy lol! Crumpsall 1957 we moved to Middy in 1968 a different place with country n fields . Love Heritage love my job too Martin.
Excellent videos, new subscriber and glad I found your channel
Thank you very much Lee
Still looks really good shape
Ordsall Hall in Salford also has a Guy Fawkes connection. The following is from wikipedia
The hall was the setting for William Harrison Ainsworth's 1842 novel Guy Fawkes, written around the plausible although unsubstantiated local story that the Gunpowder Plot of 1605 was planned in the house.
He must have bee up here Plotting, me thinks 🤔
There is a FB page for Hopwood Hall.
Fascinating Martin!!! What a grand old place that is!!! Thank you.
Jo! Este tío SI sabe hacer vídeos!
Muchas gracias mi amigo, realmente aprecio su apoyo. 👍
You’ve done a phenomenal job here, well done. Very interesting. Would love to meet up for a socially distanced walk.
Thanks Saf, Am in Manchester centre a lot
Wow! amazing video Martin! It's such a shame that a place with such history is in such a state, left to wreck and ruin 😯 hopefully it will be refurbished to its former glory one day. Thanks Martin
Hi Neil. Its a total tragedy that its like that. But it has been for years. What was the quality like Neil. Ive just run it through and TH-cam haven't processed it into HD quality yet. Usually a short delay
Yeah i noticed the quality wasn't as good but I streaming it to my TV and it was fine
Ok it will probably be in HD soon. It goes up in draft mode early on, then gets processed to 1080p
BRO I WENT PAST THIS TODAY
i dont understand everybody's fascination with the ice house.
in america, i assume England was the same, they would cut ice blocks off of ponds and store it in insulated buildings, the ice kept the ice frozen. i dont think it would last all summer, but it lasted well into the summer.
they didnt make ice, they stored it.
that is why it was next to the pond.
middle class had to buy ice from someone who cut it and stored it.
This Ice house for some reason is about a mile from the house ?
@@MartinZero - it cant be next to the house. The house has heat. They needed to keep the ice cold into the summer.
@@MrYfrank14 Yeah I realise now
@@MartinZero - was harvesting ice not a big thing in your area, before refrigeration? In the US, everybody did it. It was big business. I assume the whole world did it, but maybe it was a US thing. I am just surprised that so many commenting here know nothing about it.
@@MrYfrank14 Well its a bit before my time. Plus its not that hot here. My Grandma never had a fridge and just kept the milk in the outhouse near the back door 😀People just bought food and cooked it that day. So no, I don't think the need for Ice was a big thing.
hi martin, i would really like to get into explorering places and just wondered 1. how do you find abanded places? and how do you pur ur videos together? do you use special software?
Hi Matt. A lot of the places I visit are just places I know about. I don't have any special knowledge. If you look at a website called '28 days later' its an urban exploration website its pretty good, you may get some ideas from there. I edit the videos using a programme called 'Final cut Pro' its pretty good. I got it from the apple app store. There is other editing software in a range of prices, if you do a youtube search usually you can get some good reviews. Thanks for subscribing cheers Matt 👍
HI martin , I went to collage there and our student union bar was in the building attached to the hall
Fab Andy. Are you a teacher then ?
no I'm not a teacher, I make bespoke models for architects , completely different direction. I live down south now but I'm a Manchester boy born and bred. Very much enjoying your adventures
@@andy_croft Ahh great stuff and thanks
It would be amazing to restore and save such an important structure. By the way a small complaint........you and your shows are so interesting that when i watch all mt workers gather around and no work get done....just sayin lol. We love you way over here in Peru!
Peru !!! Wow that’s amazing thank you for watching
restoration is on the way. they're currently finding funding at the moment
@@northerncounties1392 Oh sooo happy!
@@MartinZero Every day at lunch they ask for one of your video! Confession, i watch without them too. lol We love you
hi martin great video,i was down there today working but didnt come accross the gates, is it assessable by car? i drove down the back way and couldnt go further than the farm gates
Hi Andy, no its not. I had to park in the college grounds then if you walk round the back of the fancy church its there
8:48 "ouch" - Martin Zero 2017
Have you ever looked into starforts they always have underground canals
Do you have a link to video?
An up date would be nice seeings its now 2022
Some american actor found out that he's inherited it and is making a documentary on restoring it.
He's on TH-cam. Just look for @HopwoodXIV
I live 2 min away an never even new it was still there
Hello, Iam the same, I live down the road and had to look at the map to find it, even though I did cross country at school round those woods. Still never saw it 😀👍
Martin Zero ino small world i used to fish on the canal where u was walking the dog in one of your videos where u said your freind crashed your bike into the canal keep up the great vids pal cant wait for more
Hi thanks very much. Ahh yes My Red Raleigh Chopper at the bottom of the lock. Small world mate. Whats in there Pike and stuff ?
Martin Zero had some nice fish out of there bream tench and last summer caught a nice carp up near rose of Lancaster and yh seen other people catching big pike but iv only caught 1 on there myself 👍👍
Bet you anything Martin..the owner probably bailed when he found out how much it will cost to convert with all the modern needs of today’s travellers.
Anyway at least the story went off with a bang!
It's owned by the local council. The renovations are in progress. Loads of videos showing the work on TH-cam.
The ice house is in a separate part of the woods nearer the golf course
Hi Shane, yeah I believe so. I keep meaning to go check it out
I will get some pictures when I am back in the UK in a few weeks as my mother lives opposite there and post them. Keep up the videos not found them long since but interesting great way of passing time in Germany
Thanks Shane, Germany cool, let me know if you get any good pics
Ok 👍🏻
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It should be a national treasure. Why are they letting it rot away.
Well Hopwood is trying to do it up now
Update in daily mail see link below. 😅
The path looks pretty clear so there are probably caretakers looking out for it.
there's a lot of work going on in trying to restore the building currently. the nearby college also runs some classes next to the hall
@@northerncounties1392 Wonderful news... thanks for letting me know that.
Often permission is given to enter these buildings, people are surprised when they ask.
I should probably ask more 🙂👍
Tartarian again Martin u must see if there is any evidence of Ariels or a well witch hunters house nice find
Unbelievable not Victorian can you tell nice find
Thanks very much Jay
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😀Thanks very Much Andrew, Say hello to your class from me 👍
Watched a few of your vids so far, and i'm really enjoying them. This one is in my home town so you earned yourself a new sub :). Keep up the great work .
Hi Gazz thanks very much. Many thanks for subscribing appreciate the support mate 👍
Another fantastic installment mate, so well put together! Imagine being able to chat with the walls in that place and listen to them tell you all they've seen over the years. It's tragic how places like this fall into disrepair, I'm glad it seems well protected. A bit like the hall in Heaton Park too. There's a place near me called Baguley Hall, its hundreds of years old too. Amazing really.
Hi Lewis. Yeah its criminal the way these places become unloved. Its a cash thing I suppose. Yeah Heaton Park there is another near me called Tongue Hall
Martin I was at Hopwood Hall 1973 to 1976. If you turn right after going through the gates at 13.20, over the little bridge and through the woods, you’ll come to the old mill pond. When I was there, the remnants of the waterwheel were still in the ruins of the mill. From memory we calculated that the diameter of the wheel must have been about 12 feet. If you look on google earth you can see the outline of the old mill about 50 metres to the north of the mini roundabout at the entrance to the college grounds. I’m sure you’ll find it very interesting. Keep up the good work!👍
I was at Hopwood 1974 -77. Had a great time
My Nanna was a cleaner / cook in there in the 60s/70’s when it was used to train teachers. My aunt used to go to work with her in the school holidays & loved exploring the place - especially the secret passage ways xx
Hi Tina, thats cool, bet it was in better nick then as well. Yeah I heard there are passageways in there 👍
What was your nannas name as l worked there at that time
My Great Grandfather was 'Lady' Hopwood's Smoke Inspector. Lady is in quotation marks because, although of aristocratic birth she was not a 'Lady' but all the locals called her 'Lady'.
She was quite a pioneer in her day. She campaigned for the introduction of the 'Clean Air Act' and was very influential and had great success.
My Great Grandfather would inspect factories and suggest ways they could reduce the pollution they caused from their smoking factory chimneys.
I have a walking stick, carved with his name and taken from a branch of a tree in Hopwood woods.
Hi Ian thanks, thats a great story. I have a lot of respect for the rich and privileged at the time that campaigned for better working conditions or that had altruistic motives. You need to treasure that stick 👍
One of the owners of Hopwood was an avid plant collector and brought exotic specimens from all over the world. He planted one hardy example on the estate and it caught on. It caught on a LOT - it was Japanese Knotweed...!
Martin, this channel is brilliant. Manchester is my home town, I grew up in Chorlton, and it's fascinating to see the history of this great place. Hopwood Hall is just down the road from where my parents live in Moston and I had no idea that this place existed. Top work, keep it coming.
Hi Martin.
I've just stumbled upon you site.
Absolutely brilliant.
Going to have great Sunday watching your videos.
Keep up the great work.