Is Time An Illusion? Russell Brand The Trews Ep75
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Russell Brand The Trews Ep75, with special guest Blindboy from The Rubberbandits.
In today's Trews: Is marriage dying out? Can you be fat and fit? Is time an illusion?
I give you the true news so you don't have to invest any money in buying newspapers that charge you for the privilege of keeping your consciousness imprisoned in a tiny box of ignorance and lies.
Thanks to Jimi Crayon: @jimicrayon
and Urban Nerds: @urban_nerds for our creative services
God, I could listen to these lads all day. Should make a tv show with the two of them.
The obsession with 'time' is actually quite a westernised concept. Other cultures deemed socially / economically backward by the western world are not so fascinated with it as we are.
I've had family working in parts of the world (Yemen/Afghanistan/Iraq) where most of the people can't even be exact about their age, what date it is, etc. It's a foreign and bewildering concept to these people as to why the western world is so transfixed and reliant upon focusing and recording the passing of time.
Pretty interesting, the 'trews' today reminded me of this so I thought if share :)
Paul Edwards Your comment has really fucked me up :p But very interesting idea!
Paul Edwards Whoa. Mind blown.
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omg yea me as well
Gabriela Doran It is like that in many parts of Africa, as well. People count their age from the seasons, like how many winters or springs they have seen. They are never sure how old they are nor do they care.They find our concern with ageing amusing, at best. People from portuguese speaking african countries who move to Europe often have a hard time understanding exactly what is the point of wearing a wristwatch.
Our "obsession" with measuring time is down to us having a highly diverse social economic environment where people need to be somewhere and do something at a specific time, I am sure if your on a hospital bed and your surgeon turns up late banging on about how they do things in Africa while your heart pumps its last you would be pretty pissed
you need to have more guests like this....it pulls you into more deep thinking....I love the banter and the direction of this TREWS!!!! excellent work here!!! very well done! xxx
It just goes to show that you can't judge a man by the plastic bag he wears on his face
i was just thinking that. Plastic bags don't really emanate intelligence, lovely surprise
He's wearing it because he doesn't want to be recognised in public
Blind boy has some rather insightful things to say. Which is moderately surprising seeing as he has a carrier bag for a face.
Barnaby Blance he's kind of a brilliant philosopher
This guy blindboy has really some words of wisdom to say... Not only in this episode. Russel you are doing great work! Keep on keeping on ;-)
I am sending thoughts of love and positiveness from Germany to you!
Loving the revolution. A celebrity promoting truth rather than brain deadening irrelevance. It's bloody refreshing.
I wish blind boy could be a permanent co-host.
Love the Rubberbandits. Both seem like really intelligent lads, love to hear them chat about more serious topics than their usual comedy. Big fan.
When I saw a guy in a mask I thought he was gonna be an idiot, turns out he's pretty cool and well spoken!
Blindboy, love ya! :) I recommended Biocentrism (by R. Lanza) to Russell several posts ago. I didn't expect him to read it as so much gets posted, so really glad you brought it to his attention, it's a great read and pertinent to the journey him, you and many others seem to be on. A lot of people surfing the same vibe right now, that synchronicity in itself is pretty remarkable!
Excellent Trews, Sir! And the Irish gentleman with the bag on his face proves a knowledgeable sparring partner. Sweet as, etc.
Right now I'm baking a cake for Robert Lanza on account of him writing that book about how creationism and evolution are actually intertwined. Thank heavens for his sense.
does his book recomend baking him a cake?
Blind boy is one of the wisest men I've ever heard, but his character is the most ironic alter egos I could fathom.
Blindboy is the first person who can make Brand shut up for a minute :)
tojáska well almost ;)
Very nice boys!! You actually stopped me from wondering about how Brian is doing! Blindboy you are brilliant & I hope you continue to hang out with Russell & us. I`m going to go & Google your band now...
It's this Irish guy Blind Boy that sings the theme tune for the trews
So refreshing to learn that Russell Brand knows what's up and is sharing it with the world in a few different ways. Was that Jemima Khan at 0:15 ?
A lot of Trews I've watched turn out to be 'my favorite trews episode'. It's good.
Haha I had the same question about Jemima...and I also agree with how many favourites I have!!
Philosophy from the Rubber Bandits - incredible (and great too).
totally agree about the trews about body image. i lost 20 kilos because i wanted to get healthier not just to lose weight! and i am very happy with how i look now
Two very intelligent guys that play the fool quite well. Great to see both here on full blown braniac mode!
russell you need to get this guy on more often! you 2 would make a pretty unstoppable team...
I remember a time when horse outside was everyone's ring tone man the rubberbandits are legends
Time
It’s a funny old thing, a contradiction in terms
Dual natured like the people it so concerns
Can be friend or foe; a gift or a curse
Ally or enemy; ambulance or hearse
Not always been there; an invention of sorts
It withers, bends, decays and distorts
Yet age can show beauty, wisdom and strength
It’s bleedin’ essential for discussions at length
A revealer of truth; eventually it seems
Both destroyer and the fulfiller of dreams
Good old Blindoy representing Limerick CITAAAYYY!!!!!!!!!!
The Rubber Bandits are ace, funny as fuck and mad intelligent!
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
Maybe there isn't a beginning to our universe. We are obsessed with beginnings and end. But just like finding a corner on a sphere, a beginning may not even exist :0.
True.
IT IS TRUE THAT THE UNIVERSE HAS ALWAYS EXISTED FOR ALL OF ETERNITY. MODERN SCIENCE IS STARTING TO LOOK INTO THAT CURRENTLY BY REVISING EINSTEIN'S THEORY OF RELATIVITY. SOON THIS WILL BECOME A MAINSTREAM WAY OF THINKING HOWEVER HARD THE CONCEPT IS TO GRASP.
da skreetz another hard concept to grasp [Caps Lock]
ForceCrystal THERE ARE MANY HARD CONCEPTS ON THIS EARTH THAT ARE RESOUNDINGLY TRUE AND YET HARD TO GRASP. I RESPECT YOUR HONESTY. BUT ASK THAT YOU OPEN YOUR ACCEPTANCE
da skreetz um. I just don't think Caps lock is needed.
You can't expect someone to never say anything hurtful in anger. Unless you expect people to resemble robots.
Anyway, a remark of that kind can be justified. It has a useful function of discharging pent-up annoyance, or getting recompense for hurt feelings.
These things can quite easily be forgotten a minute after they happen. They don't necessarily have any deep significance, it's just a way of dealing with the needs of the moment.
Sometimes when I issue a remark like that, I've got to the point where I'm so in control of my emotions that I know what I'm about to do and why I'm doing it and I ask myself "is this the right thing to do?" and sometimes the answer is "yes". So it's not always a hijack.
Sometimes it's right to let anger (frustration, irritation, etc.) have its way.
Russel brand and blindboy in the same video talkin about stuff. This is my wet dream right here lol
3:06 Okay, here 's a tip for you young bucks, If you argue with your partner, never say hurtful things! She will never forget, you will never be able to undo it. Many relationships end over this. If you get mad and you're worried about what you might say, just walk away. You're probably arguing over 'nothing' anyway.
I stopped living by time 5 years ago.. the best feeling of freedom
TheWall. Photo I hope this joke was deliberate. Either way I laughed
I often found myself thinking about this topic,changing my opinions a couple times the deeper i thought about it.
At first i thought to much on human interpretation of time,which broke down to 24 hours a day/night. Trying to think larger,time has and is always around,its linear and gravity plays a big part, as well as axis spin which i guess would be effected by gravity. The Earths mass within the fabric of space creating gravity an having an effect on spin would produce the earth having days and nights,from a starting point,we can measure how long it takes for the earth to rotate then breaking it down from there to make it more manageable in days,hours,minutes etc.
So, time is basically a measurement and not an illusion, as the definition of illusion would have one believe something isn't as it appears,when in fact it is. Now time is relative as it'll be a different time for me then you,hence time zones. Think larger and other planets with varying masses and spins etc would effect time differently from one galaxy to the next. When we do start to space travel, we'll neex alot of clocks haha :)
Exactly it's relative and not illusory. Also intimately linked with gravity. But no matter what, on any planet any where you'll eventually get old. No escaping aging. That happens when time passes. Therefore real. Even inanimate objects age and decay. Simple stuff. Kinda crazy it's gotten so cliche to question these things, assuming it's "deep".
Not so blind boy good man #uptheirish
I'm starting to like you Russell because anyone who likes the Rubberbandits must be sound,and I love this meaning of life, the universe and everything stuff.Yurt!
Holy f*ck russell I'm an optometry student and I am impressed by your knowledge of the human eye- great episode- love the masked man!
Quantum probabilities of frigidness! that's great. and "idiot wind" seems to be everywhere ha ha. Time is infinite and we can't grasp the depth of it, I love this review with Blindboy he is very intelligent and sweet, I love that beautiful accent he has, I could listen to him all day.. And you are and lovely and frikin funny ,as usual, Russell. It cracks me up that we earthlings think we can figure everything out about the Universe and time, we know so very little, but it's a good thing to keep asking the the questions "Why" and "How" when finally get to use 100% of our brains, then we will know all the answers. dun dun dun, (I miss you doing the intro.)
Strange how some people like our Irish accent and some of us are a bit embarrassed by it and upset when imitated! There are SO many Irish accents. Whatever accent is being used we are not going to crack this question of time very easily and certainly not in 7 minutes. But great stuff. Couldn't miss it
They have calculated the power of the brain and it's storage capability. The good news is we have enough space to store all the knowledge from the universe, the trouble is we will not live long enough to actually succeed in doing so. The probability of any living entity succeeding is highly unlikely.
Russell should do every trews with blindboy!
Awh rubberbandits! Brilliant! Really enjoyed this one. Nice to see blind boy has some intelligent things to say haha in contrast to we usually see him at.
How about this: time is the measurement of change? So whenever we measure or quantify change that's time.
truly food for thought. going to buy this book in the morning
amazing guys thank you
Dylan is referring to himself in 'the idiot wind'. Great show.
Another aspect of this is that it sometimes takes time to get over things. For instance, I haven't completely got over the experience I relate in this poem.
I still have jealousy about it.
The mind
I listened to a lady
Reading a poem
It was a good poem
I felt jealous
But at the same time
I liked her
Mixed feelings
That’s the mind for you
Time is one of the concepts human made to describe the flow of processes around us.
Since all observable processes do move, time exists, it's just personal for different observable entities.
And it's not an illusion, it's a concept. Flow of a process is factual.
THAT WAS FUCKING QUALITY. THIS SHOULD BE A MAINSTREAM NEWSPAPER
Check out an explanation of the dimensions on youtube. It really adds context to the understanding of time.
That's Limerick City 👍
I heard Ken Wheeler talking about time been 4.
4 been the only number that's not in the first 5 numbers of the Fibonacci sequence 11235!
He says its an illusion.
Don't ask me though, I left school at 15.
How was I not aware of these together??
I was out of my mind last night, I think a billion beers came over me.
these are quality man, could do with more then 300 views tho ffs i bet a hello magazines just clocked 1000 in the same time. that point about time being retrospective is good aswell ive never really thought about it that way before and ive read a few things. it is just stuff happening... its hurting my head
I watch the watch on my wrist and measure the decay of the watch itself versus the decay of my wrist. It's a bit like watching paint dry (but much slower).
russell is absolutley brilliant a one man power house to peoples justice in a world turning upside down with bull crap russell calms the people with witty cleaver reviews giving us hope with clairity stay calm and work together we shall over come!!
"Check out the big brain on Blindboy"!!!
movement creates the illusion of time, everything happens at once only our brains recognize patterns and create time. swiss people understand this the best examples - coo coo clock, rolex. great time creating devices
"Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so." -Douglas Adams
He's so right about rage & logic. I see it on social media all the time (of course). lol Idiotwind, I've got to remember that.
Just in case some of you havent heard of the Rubberbandits, check them out, they're a comedy duo from Limerick who've knocked out a few really funny songs...feckin gas! Copy n paste: the rubberbandits horse outside.... Brilliant Irish humour!
You guys should look at string theory that would blow your minds :)
love this !! peace and light
Time is the word we use to describe the entropy of matter, nothing more.
Nope
Yup.
You lose
could be.
It is a word. But it is also the pointer to an observation or experience.It is also a description that is part of the fabric of space itself. So your description is valid from a poetic standpoint, but from from an ontological standpoint, it is not absolute. BOom mr manhattan! Take that!
Also, observing the mental explanation of what happens when you look at a fridge, as it exists within your mind(the thought explanation about how you observed the fridge), is also not real, because while it is a symbolic representation of something real, your mind does not possess the ability to extract the full actuality of the message being conveyed through the explanation, even if the explanation is fully intended to send out a full representation of something real. example:You learn about cells, but when you experience thoughts about cells within your mind, you are not actually experiencing an understanding about cells as they truly are, your mind is percieving a multitude of symbols intending to deliver you a full complete connection and perception on all levels of the nature of a cell, but your mind is not interacting with a cell, rather it is interacting with the explanation and so infinite nuances are left out, and it becomes 2 dimensional, and not real, cells exist, but they are not cells, they are what they really are, cells are an idea, no one has ever been in a relationship with the idea of a cell and been able to truly percieve a cell in reality at the same time. In essence almost everything is lost in translation through symbolic thought, which is any thought at all, both your thoughts and your senses aren't real, well thoughts are real as thoughts, they aren't real as anything else. A thought about a cell is real as a thought about a cell, but not real as a cell itself, and again almost everything is lost in translation.
Someone can fully intend to explain a real thing to you, but when you observe their explanation, you are not observing what they are explaining, only the explanation, which your brain does no truly possess the capacity to find the real thing through. See for yourself, you will find that everything loses it's sense of realness when you are lost in thought about it, because you are not in relationship with the real, but with the thought about the real, and the difference will always be there. The real makes you happy, but the world of symbols makes you feel dead inside, we live in a society lost in symbols, and this is the greatest problem in the world today.
His Irish accent is too cute man. I'm trying to take him seriously too :')
fancy seeing you here:)
I'm surprised with the people I've seen here. Saw CrabStickz commenting on Trews :')
Creationism conceptualized by that which was created.
Considering the roots of consciousness.
Just like the tree that makes no sound when it falls, is there a creation where there is no human consciousness?
I think I entered a parallel universe instead of looking and finding a fitness channel on youtube I found an "unfitness channel "..I'm now into health & Unfitness. ..
Someone might have already said this- time is just a standardised measurement of change. Our concept of time is directly related to the movement of the earth and the moon as they orbit the sun. As such, my garden needs water in a specific time-frame as relative to the movement of the earth and the relative intensity of the sun; but I would hazard the guess that 'time' is not a quantifiable entity such as velocity, mass or energy (I know- mass, being a derivative of energy, is no longer viewed scientifically as a fixed quantity but it still comes in handy when measuring butter and flour for a cake).
If the earth didn't move you'd still age.
FOR FUCK SAKE ;
"Dylan mistreated" ?
That album is called BLOOD ON THE TRACKS be cause Dylan was in the habit of given her the odd punch.
The whole album is an apology.
The track Sara ; was recorded with his ex-wife sara Lownds right there looking at each other so that it would be recorded at an authentic apology.
That book seems to make a lot of sense, but which came first, consciousness or time? If it took millions of years for elements to form in the big bang, millions of years for it to cool down enough so that electrons could attach themselves to the protons and neutrons, millions of years for it to cool down so that atoms could come together to form molecules- which could become life after another amount of time; wouldn't it be that time had to come before consciousness?
Welcome to my illusion of quantum probability YOU TWO heheheh love you guys.~)) I thank thee both of you Blindboy and beautiful Russ for today's thinking proposition and if I recall correctly, quantum physics ascertains that reality is a projection of "the observer", thus: who is the observer? you? me? us?
Reality being a communion state of mind :) I've always thought & sensed "time" as being circular or elliptical, being plasmated via concentric orbits that coallesce like syncopathic flux-reflux : Pythagora's Music of the Spheres?
This moment we're building up together in this circle within this Russellian community is also ipso factum already a part in the fulcrum of " the present eternal": the here & now we all energizing it, right this instant by seeing, watching, reading, observing, listening, feeling, sensing and contemplating:
Behold we are ancient light traversing aeons, dust of stars being conscious of themselves in this moment eternal
I LOVE YOU ° NAMASTE
Rubberbandits - Genius...
there was no start and will be no end to life
I really did just have a discussion with this at a stop light the other day with my brother about this very subject. Weird.
Blind boy, your best guest. Maybe more people should hide their faces seems a trend ATM.
This is the type of content you should expand upon for good trews, it reminds me of Bill Hicks wish to hear a 'positive drug story' in the news for once. I'm not saying you both were indulging at the time of filming but I do find it sometimes helps when pondering the nature of reality or watching trews.
Check out membrane theory or m-theory in quantum physics as it includes the notion of a 'holographic universe', the theory is trying to solve the questions surrounding the big bang, such as inflation or expansion. An example of the holographic universe could be the fact that atoms are mostly empty space and that we know nothing about dark matter or dark energy, that's because it just isn't there. We are in fact information being 'projected' from a 2D surface or membrane of pure information and energy (think about what this could mean in the context of spirituality!). As for time, time and space (spacetime) are approximations of a more primal entity - information in a quantum process. It's only relative to our minds as we try to make sense of a reality we have a very limited perception of.
Hey Russell! I've read Biocentrism and I think the idea is exceptionally interesting. If you decide to youtube The Afterlife Dysfunction, which explains the theory with a very interesting spin (which you can guess from the name of the video), I think you'd be really excited by some of the implications of the idea! I'd love a reply, especially if you actually take the time to watch the video I've recommended. Thankfully it's only 9 minutes long, so shouldn't take up too much of your time! (I didn't make the video by the way, I'm not trying to get views or anything).
I love trews
Quoting from my anatomy textbook: "In many ways the eyes resemble detached CNS nuclei that are totally devoted to processing visual stimuli." Is resemble the operative word?
Never would have thought blind boy was so smart
The almost impossible gameshow, was, in my opinion a unique work of genius. The likes of which will probably never be seen again.
What a team
The universe exists in two forms, mental (sine/time waves and cosine/space waves) and our 'material' experience of said waves via the method of the fourier transform
Haha I used to read the Beano as a child :)
we all did gina baby
Russell Brand Oi, Russel! when can we get some Trews T shirts? I'm all about revolutionizing commodity merch . This Trews is picking up a lot of youtube exposer. lets capitalize on this. ; ) luv yah mate.
awesome!
Is Dylan's 'Idiot Wind' just about his angry arguments with Sara, which is certainly one theme in a long & complex lyric, or does it also refer to the relentless babble of the media and its power to distort our perception? Pete Hammil said, in his sleevenotes: 'It is a hard, cold-blooded poem about the survivor's anger, as personal as anything ever committed to a record. And yet is can also stand as the anthem for all who feel invaded, handled, bottled, packaged; all who spent themselves in combat with the plague; all who ever walked into the knives of humiliation or hatred. The idiot wind trivialized lives into gossip, celebrates fad and fashion, glorifies the dismal glitter of celebrity. Its products live on the covers of magazines, in all of television, if the poisoned air and dead grey lakes. But most of all, it blows through the human heart. Dylan knows that such a wind is the deadliest enemy of art. And when the artists die, we all die with them.'
Life without reflection.
great video!!
This episode of Trews precipitated a panic attack. Thanks :(
I love the idea of illusive reality - we could all be entirely different looking beings to one another (antenna, no ears, 5 arms, etc) but our nervous system interprets the world around us as due to the way it understands it. An x-ray image will see a skeleton, not a body. Imagine if we all had x-ray vision!
The idea of quantum probability is interesting BUT, as with what I've mentioned above, all our senses marry up to make something appear to be what it is. Our visual perception says the fridge looks cuboid-ish. Our tactile perception clarifies that. So it becomes harder to inject the idea that the fridge isn't as we sense it because we continually receive emotionally conclusive perceptions of what it is. Especially as it was created by humans (well, unless there are alien slaves that we don't know about, wearing hairnets and rubber gloves, working on assembly lines).
However, it could be in a state of constant flux, and it is just by coincidence that we only perceive it as this fridge like being only when we are sensing it. I guess that is a Humean approach in some respects.
Anyway, back to my roast dinner... that may or may not really be there.
Brand is out classed here by old school brains n legitimacy. Blind boy is solid, Russ is revealing himself as the grasping 2$ shaman/empty suit he is.
Get Matt Morgan on the Trews next!
Time is the experience of sine waves, it is becoming, the Mike Hockney books "The God Series" have a great explanation of what time is.
Great stuff as always Russell!
Why does commitment have to be marked by marriage certificates? Cohabiting is a relatively recent term which has developed to accommodate the changes in family formations. The article 'Happy Families' discusses how throughout the 50's and 60's there were more couples choosing to marry, which when compared with past and current statistics represented a break from the norm. I feel as though the media constantly amplify current developments, in this case, contemporary family dynamics. Does having a marriage certificate in some way make you better parents? I don't think so... In my opinion this idea reflects the governments political agenda. For example is the relationship counselling available in some children's centres a strategy to improve children's outcomes? In my opinion this resembles yet another initiative to save the government money. I have no idea why cohabiting, monogamous, committed couples are in any way less capable parents. In order to achieve the best chance of achieving positive outcomes for your children shouldn't require parents to be in a committed relationship. As long as your children are loved, entertained, and have a stable routine with one of or both parents, I see no reason why these factors are any cause for concern. One possibility is that a lack of time could result in parents struggling to be fully available to their child, despite the fact that alongside these changes the 'traditional' roles of each gender has increased the number of married family units which have both parents working full time and offering limited amounts of quality time. For me this is a greater concern to children's welfare as secure attachments are less likely to form with two parents that are rarely available, than stable families that choose to cohabit instead of gaining a piece of paper to express their commitment! This is not an issue which would be highlighted through the media as, once again it's all about the money. The fact of the matter is the move away from traditional families and historic stigma attached to children born out of wedlock, doesn't present a cause for public concern.
there is no time, time is on my side.out of time, plenty of time,
I have pondered the many uses of the word in it,s various terms of reference,any time.all the time,time has come today.but it is only in the present that we exist
the premise that reality is created by our perception is certainly not a new concept,I read about it in high school and that was many years ago.
i love your new friend, more of him please. but can he appear with a less scary mask please.
Good stuff - love the comment on healthy - not thin or fat. Excellent episode & lovin' Blind Boy. Full marks for the numbskulls insert. Trews up a gear - who'd a fought! :) Peace
time is the original currency used to rule the masses.
time is in forward motion no matter how it is perceived i disagree with all of that , it would be nice to increase the speed of our absorbtion and make one day last 7 there by living 7 times longer
so brilliant .....fuckin love it.
Russell, when are you going to talk to Robert Lanza about the book he isn't willing to write?