I Agree with everything you said except for 6:53 0 turns I've had a lot of experience with 0 turns and lawn tractors. 0 turns get stuck so much easier and yes, I've gotten lawn tractors stuck too, but 0 turns, just it happens more often
I agree, I have both and in the spring I favor the lawn tractor with its mower. My zero has loaded tires, does that make it worse? I thought it made it better, I'll have to try unloaded tires, maybe?
I agree. Especially awesome when you have a lot of trees, or other stuff to mow around. I still keep my traditional rider to bag cuttings (mostly for compost).
Well put. All I want to say is The Bad Boy is a lot better machine than Kubota zero turn. BB uses about half the gass as my new Kubota. I wished I had stayed with BB. Low maintenance also.
I have a couple of really wet spots that my 1000+ lb Bad Boy Maverick HD is not at all shy about getting stuck in. My 4WD LS tractor and a piece of chain is all that it takes to Hurk it right out. I'm learning to avoid those spots.
Hills & slopes... I have a Cub Cadet ZTR with a steering wheel, and you're right, they're great on hills. That's the sole reason I went with the steering wheel version. Hard to use... I also have a lap-bar ZTR, and while neither of my ZTRs are hard to use, I am more accurate with my steering wheel model. I can mow faster up next to obstacles without hitting them. And I can mow with less overlap from row to row. Mine CC ZTR is the only riding mower I've ever used that has a suspension seat, and it's more comfortable than any other mower I've used.
Depends if you have a very expensive model than a standard residential model. They don't have suspension seats and on a rough lawn they will beat the hell out of you. The cheapest zeroturn I've seen with a suspension seat was $9,000 and for the really goo suspension seats they were close to $15,000 I don't need a car payment to mow my lawn.
I like lawn and garden Equipment, I enjoy working on them I enjoy working with them, I work on and with them as a hobby some out work others but at the end of the day, if you just need to cut your grass. most any lawnmower will get the job done. . . .
On a hill with zero turn mower mow with the slope not up and down. A zero turn will wheelie up hill. When going with the slope if it loses traction just point it down hill and it won't flip. Don't listen to the people that say to point uphill and back down, if you're doing that then it's not steep anyways
Technically, the safest is to keep your front end pointed downhill at all times, but if the slope is so steep that you're backing up it, it might be a good idea to find an alternative
FYI we own the steering wheel zero turn and if you actually zero turn it it will leave a ~10"-12" circle under the non-moving rear tire. The lever guys apparently can actually reverse the opposite wheel.
If the front wheels were keeping pressure on the back wheels, they would tend to dig in and in soft turf or mud, they'll be even more prone to get stuck. Some zt's do have shocks on the front casters but it's for ride comfort and not for traction
@@phillydude5150How many divots did she create? There are numerous professionals on and off TH-cam who would disagree with your conclusions. I consider myself a relatively intelligent person and I can tell you there is a learning curve to the “proper and efficient” operation of these machines. I suppose like your wife even an idiot can jump on the machine and be cutting grass in a few minutes. But clearly those individuals will be risking their lives and/or damaging property while they do so. Contrary to your devil-may-care attitude, virtually all zero turn mower manuals warn about the dangers of operating these machines on inclines. Your approach to these machines is dangerous and inaccurate. I hope your viewers take your advice with a grain of salt. I most certainly do.
Bought a gravely zt hd 52 would have been the 60 but damn women but it's built like a Sherman tank 4 yr 500 hr warranty forged blade spindles and fisher Barton commercial blade upgrade trailer hitch upgrade assist handle upgrade floor mat upgrade and the weather proof cover only a 100.00 difference for the sixty she said didn't say you couldn't buy the sixty you just wouldn't put in in my yard ah huh I looked at every brand I've been a small engine mechanic since age 5 now 56 world lawn and encore same thing great machine ferris dealers were but heads that thought they had gold beside chassis suspension ha ha I don't think so how ever gravely and ariens are identical on certain models but my gravely has a 7 ga fab deck and the ariens apex is 10 ga fab deck but it has 3100s Kawasaki fr691v 23 ho 8 mph f 4 mph r 5 gal fuel tank hmoh her yard is 100x100 takes ten minutes with the 52 and even my own dough and she says no to the 60 for an extra 100 bucks then it would be 7 minutes ha ha hey between you and me I just might be able to get her to go shopping for a day and then i.ll get the 60 of course it'll be a few grand now that I have 28 hrs on her and she needs a little recoat gravely paint or maybe just keep what I have its better then walking oh she italian and german yah should have opened an equipment joint up and i could choose witch mower I use 7 days a week hmm now theres an idea ol buddy
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I Agree with everything you said except for 6:53
0 turns I've had a lot of experience with 0 turns and lawn tractors. 0 turns get stuck so much easier and yes, I've gotten lawn tractors stuck too, but 0 turns, just it happens more often
I agree, I have both and in the spring I favor the lawn tractor with its mower. My zero has loaded tires, does that make it worse? I thought it made it better, I'll have to try unloaded tires, maybe?
I agree. Especially awesome when you have a lot of trees, or other stuff to mow around. I still keep my traditional rider to bag cuttings (mostly for compost).
Well put. All I want to say is The Bad Boy is a lot better machine than Kubota zero turn. BB uses about half the gass as my new Kubota. I wished I had stayed with BB. Low maintenance also.
I have a couple of really wet spots that my 1000+ lb Bad Boy Maverick HD is not at all shy about getting stuck in. My 4WD LS tractor and a piece of chain is all that it takes to Hurk it right out. I'm learning to avoid those spots.
Mowers and mud don't mix... but I keep trying!
Hills & slopes... I have a Cub Cadet ZTR with a steering wheel, and you're right, they're great on hills. That's the sole reason I went with the steering wheel version.
Hard to use... I also have a lap-bar ZTR, and while neither of my ZTRs are hard to use, I am more accurate with my steering wheel model. I can mow faster up next to obstacles without hitting them. And I can mow with less overlap from row to row.
Mine CC ZTR is the only riding mower I've ever used that has a suspension seat, and it's more comfortable than any other mower I've used.
Depends if you have a very expensive model than a standard residential model. They don't have suspension seats and on a rough lawn they will beat the hell out of you. The cheapest zeroturn I've seen with a suspension seat was $9,000 and for the really goo suspension seats they were close to $15,000 I don't need a car payment to mow my lawn.
I can get yaa suspension seat upgrade for $175. Let's do it!
I like lawn and garden Equipment, I enjoy working on them I enjoy working with them, I work on and with them as a hobby some out work others but at the end of the day, if you just need to cut your grass. most any lawnmower will get the job done. . . .
On a hill with zero turn mower mow with the slope not up and down. A zero turn will wheelie up hill. When going with the slope if it loses traction just point it down hill and it won't flip. Don't listen to the people that say to point uphill and back down, if you're doing that then it's not steep anyways
Technically, the safest is to keep your front end pointed downhill at all times, but if the slope is so steep that you're backing up it, it might be a good idea to find an alternative
FYI we own the steering wheel zero turn and if you actually zero turn it it will leave a ~10"-12" circle under the non-moving rear tire. The lever guys apparently can actually reverse the opposite wheel.
Zero turns don’t cut as well…who was the crackhead who said that…that’s the main reason you buy one is the cut quality and the time savings.
On all the zero turns, why don’t they fix the front wheels with shocks on them to help keep pressure on the back wheels
If the front wheels were keeping pressure on the back wheels, they would tend to dig in and in soft turf or mud, they'll be even more prone to get stuck. Some zt's do have shocks on the front casters but it's for ride comfort and not for traction
Ferris mowers have coil-over shocks
You understate the learning curve. That’s dangerous.
Learning curve? What? My wife hopped on my zero turn and was cutting grass with it in about 5 minutes. It's not rocket science.
@@phillydude5150How many divots did she create? There are numerous professionals on and off TH-cam who would disagree with your conclusions. I consider myself a relatively intelligent person and I can tell you there is a learning curve to the “proper and efficient” operation of these machines. I suppose like your wife even an idiot can jump on the machine and be cutting grass in a few minutes. But clearly those individuals will be risking their lives and/or damaging property while they do so. Contrary to your devil-may-care attitude, virtually all zero turn mower manuals warn about the dangers of operating these machines on inclines. Your approach to these machines is dangerous and inaccurate. I hope your viewers take your advice with a grain of salt. I most certainly do.
@@phillydude5150Why did you delete my reply? Do you fear the truth?
Bought a gravely zt hd 52 would have been the 60 but damn women but it's built like a Sherman tank 4 yr 500 hr warranty forged blade spindles and fisher Barton commercial blade upgrade trailer hitch upgrade assist handle upgrade floor mat upgrade and the weather proof cover only a 100.00 difference for the sixty she said didn't say you couldn't buy the sixty you just wouldn't put in in my yard ah huh I looked at every brand I've been a small engine mechanic since age 5 now 56 world lawn and encore same thing great machine ferris dealers were but heads that thought they had gold beside chassis suspension ha ha I don't think so how ever gravely and ariens are identical on certain models but my gravely has a 7 ga fab deck and the ariens apex is 10 ga fab deck but it has 3100s Kawasaki fr691v 23 ho 8 mph f 4 mph r 5 gal fuel tank hmoh her yard is 100x100 takes ten minutes with the 52 and even my own dough and she says no to the 60 for an extra 100 bucks then it would be 7 minutes ha ha hey between you and me I just might be able to get her to go shopping for a day and then i.ll get the 60 of course it'll be a few grand now that I have 28 hrs on her and she needs a little recoat gravely paint or maybe just keep what I have its better then walking oh she italian and german yah should have opened an equipment joint up and i could choose witch mower I use 7 days a week hmm now theres an idea ol buddy