Very good explanation of what's going on, I would hoped more people would do that so we can understand better what's going on, great sounds from that system, I am going to adquire a similar setup, don't have to break the bank with Behringer in the game at last, you're the man!!
Thanks. I sometimes wonder if I’m going overboard with the explanations (as the knowledge / experience of viewers obviously varies) so it’s good to know that it’s helpful.
@@ZvookUK I find it very useful, I see your video, then use VCV Rack to test what you doing, and use that knowledge to understand and help to formulate proper questions to my doubts and help with a proper eurorack setup without the need to sell the house :D , having practical examples of theory is always a must, for me at least.
I also appreciate proper explanations. TH-cam videos with lots going on but no explanations might be nice to listen to, but they are not very useful for people wanting to replicate certain techniques or sounds.
The ‘beating’ caused by the slightly out of tune oscillators, panned either side, has a ‘widening’ effect on the sound. Plus the differences between the two filters also has an effect.
Thanks for these vids - I'm a modular noob, and struggling a bit to get my head around it all tbh - got a 960, a Model D and a Pro 1, just trying to figure out getting them going in sync - I'll get there one day!
You’re welcome! If you’re using the pro 1’s internal sequencer I’ll be difficult to get them in sync (I have a pro 1 but never use the internal sequencer) you could use the 960 for both (with a sequential switch you could have 16 steps running for the model D and 8 steps for the pro 1). Using a circadian rhythm generator like the one the disting mk 4 has (or Pamela’s new workout) will allow you to make more interesting gate patterns than straight up ‘a gate per step’ seq. But there are lots of other options. Figuring all this out is what’s so fun about modular.
@@ZvookUK Thanks for the reply - barely touched the Pro 1 yet, and yes, I'll ideally have the 960 driving them both. I've got the switch as well, but can worry about extra steps later. I saw your vid on the disting, looks interesting. Got the Doepfer quantizer at the moment, might try and unload that for the disting sometime, just need to watch the spend until I can justify it by getting some results! So if I wanted to run the Pro1 and D from the 960, would I need a stackable cable from the osc output to the gates on both synths?
Looks like the 960, 962, and a quantizer are going to be my first Eurorack modules. At the moment I sequence my Neutron using an SQ-1 slaved to my MPC One. Digital step sequencers just don't cut it - particularly as almost none can be modulated to create Dervish D style sequences (necessitating re-entering the same sequence for each transposition). The SQ-1 sends CV to the Neutron and the MPC does the "one finger playing" via MIDI. I find my Neutron needs a "seed" note from MIDI anyway, I can't just hit it with CV or it plays ridiculously low pitches.
The Disting MK4 (or the Disting EX for that matter - two Distings in one is a great idea. Straight away when you use it you realise a couple would be very handy) has a few great quantizers on it. Though if you want a dedicated quantizer I'd recommend the Sonic Potions Penrose (www.thonk.co.uk/shop/penrose/). It comes as a DIY kit (relatively easy and basic soldering) or pre made for it bit more. I'll probably end up getting one at some point as a dedicated quanitizer with buttons that correspond to keys/notes on a keyboard is very handy.
Nice. Ive just taken stock of a Boog sys55. I use cubase, so if i just want to sync my 55 to that, is the expert sleeper all i need? Before the 960 i was using a doepfer dark time.
Yeah. If your interface has an ADAT light port ES3 is the best way to go imo. (That’s what I use) But expert sleepers have all different types of modules you can use to hook up your DAW to your CV based rig.
You’ll also need their Silent Way VSTs or something like Native Instruments Blocks to convert the midi data to CV data the ES3 (or equivalent) can use. Check out the manual for the Silent Way suite. It has a “voice” VST which can send out gate, envelope and quantised pitch CV. A complex LFO VST, a step LFO VST, sync/clock VST plus a few more.
To be fair Behringer get to split their overheads across thousands of units (and are possibly subsidizing prices from profits in other product categories to capture market share). Most Eurorack developers are small outfits that are doing very well if they can split their costs across hundreds of units but I'm sure many developers don't actually make a real profit let alone a living.
Very true - Behringer has the advantage of being a large company who can afford to gets units made in china on a mass scale. And I think the improved surface mount technology to enable them to do it is fairly new.
I’ve watched a few of your excellent 960 videos now and have learned enough to convince me to buy one, thank you. A new sub for thee here!
So cool behringer gave us the ability to use these things, never thought id see so many people jamming on "Model 15s" and 960s and system 55s
Very good explanation of what's going on, I would hoped more people would do that so we can understand better what's going on, great sounds from that system, I am going to adquire a similar setup, don't have to break the bank with Behringer in the game at last, you're the man!!
Thanks. I sometimes wonder if I’m going overboard with the explanations (as the knowledge / experience of viewers obviously varies) so it’s good to know that it’s helpful.
@@ZvookUK I find it very useful, I see your video, then use VCV Rack to test what you doing, and use that knowledge to understand and help to formulate proper questions to my doubts and help with a proper eurorack setup without the need to sell the house :D , having practical examples of theory is always a must, for me at least.
I also appreciate proper explanations. TH-cam videos with lots going on but no explanations might be nice to listen to, but they are not very useful for people wanting to replicate certain techniques or sounds.
Wonderful sounds - loving the panned filters - big thumbs up !
The ‘beating’ caused by the slightly out of tune oscillators, panned either side, has a ‘widening’ effect on the sound. Plus the differences between the two filters also has an effect.
Thanks for these vids - I'm a modular noob, and struggling a bit to get my head around it all tbh - got a 960, a Model D and a Pro 1, just trying to figure out getting them going in sync - I'll get there one day!
You’re welcome! If you’re using the pro 1’s internal sequencer I’ll be difficult to get them in sync (I have a pro 1 but never use the internal sequencer) you could use the 960 for both (with a sequential switch you could have 16 steps running for the model D and 8 steps for the pro 1). Using a circadian rhythm generator like the one the disting mk 4 has (or Pamela’s new workout) will allow you to make more interesting gate patterns than straight up ‘a gate per step’ seq. But there are lots of other options. Figuring all this out is what’s so fun about modular.
@@ZvookUK Thanks for the reply - barely touched the Pro 1 yet, and yes, I'll ideally have the 960 driving them both. I've got the switch as well, but can worry about extra steps later. I saw your vid on the disting, looks interesting. Got the Doepfer quantizer at the moment, might try and unload that for the disting sometime, just need to watch the spend until I can justify it by getting some results! So if I wanted to run the Pro1 and D from the 960, would I need a stackable cable from the osc output to the gates on both synths?
Looks like the 960, 962, and a quantizer are going to be my first Eurorack modules. At the moment I sequence my Neutron using an SQ-1 slaved to my MPC One. Digital step sequencers just don't cut it - particularly as almost none can be modulated to create Dervish D style sequences (necessitating re-entering the same sequence for each transposition). The SQ-1 sends CV to the Neutron and the MPC does the "one finger playing" via MIDI. I find my Neutron needs a "seed" note from MIDI anyway, I can't just hit it with CV or it plays ridiculously low pitches.
The Disting MK4 (or the Disting EX for that matter - two Distings in one is a great idea. Straight away when you use it you realise a couple would be very handy) has a few great quantizers on it. Though if you want a dedicated quantizer I'd recommend the Sonic Potions Penrose (www.thonk.co.uk/shop/penrose/). It comes as a DIY kit (relatively easy and basic soldering) or pre made for it bit more. I'll probably end up getting one at some point as a dedicated quanitizer with buttons that correspond to keys/notes on a keyboard is very handy.
Great music mate.
Cheers!
I love these kinds of sequences.
Me too - classic sounds.
great demo & details - thanks!
loving this!
Nice. Ive just taken stock of a Boog sys55. I use cubase, so if i just want to sync my 55 to that, is the expert sleeper all i need? Before the 960 i was using a doepfer dark time.
Yeah. If your interface has an ADAT light port ES3 is the best way to go imo. (That’s what I use) But expert sleepers have all different types of modules you can use to hook up your DAW to your CV based rig.
You’ll also need their Silent Way VSTs or something like Native Instruments Blocks to convert the midi data to CV data the ES3 (or equivalent) can use. Check out the manual for the Silent Way suite. It has a “voice” VST which can send out gate, envelope and quantised pitch CV. A complex LFO VST, a step LFO VST, sync/clock VST plus a few more.
Mine is on order something about the vintage in line step sequencer that just delivers .......and why pay more
absolute bargain, just ordered one on the back of this video. it's about time someone disrupted the massively overpriced eurorack market.
To be fair Behringer get to split their overheads across thousands of units (and are possibly subsidizing prices from profits in other product categories to capture market share). Most Eurorack developers are small outfits that are doing very well if they can split their costs across hundreds of units but I'm sure many developers don't actually make a real profit let alone a living.
Very true - Behringer has the advantage of being a large company who can afford to gets units made in china on a mass scale. And I think the improved surface mount technology to enable them to do it is fairly new.