As I can see, I’m not the only person who really appreciates this explanation. I first noticed Daimler cars living in South Africa in the 2000s. They always looked like re-badged Jags. It has confused me for years, but my confusion and curiosity was never enough to look into the matter. Thank you for making this video.
Basically it has become and an ultra luxurious trim level for jaguar but they there hasn't been another one since the the lunch of the new style XJ In 2010
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂. Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂 According to the Brits and British documentaries: Paper was invented in Britain 😂 Water was first discovered in Britain 😂 Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂 American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂 Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣 Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂 Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂 Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂 Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣 Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂 Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂 Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂 When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂 Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂 A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭 If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
To be honest I think jag should simply move upmarket and stop trying to compete with BMW or Mercedes as it never succeeds at that and maybe introduce a brand bellow they own the Rover marque for example
@@Thanos.m oh dear ... as a Jag passenger since 1968 and later driver, for at least two decades, I believe that Jaguar is no more. Not worth it. Forget it. It has become a revenge of the colonies.
As an American, my only experience with these came by way of my Father, who spent enough time in Europe with the U.S. Army to become seriously infatuated with (among others) the Daimler-Jag V8. He told me about them for years until we came across one at an auto show. He actually owned a pre-WWII Mercedes sedan, a V8 BMW, and a Beetle he picked up new right at the factory. While working for a major German distributor during his time off-base, he got to set up new Porsche Speedsters for delivery, lapping them on the banked track behind the dealership, with many going to Allied officers. He also claims to be the first person to drive the NSU rotary engine in its test mule chassis, blasting laps at a then mind blowing 8-9000 rpm. Pretty exciting stuff for a 19 year old kid who'd grown up building stripped down flathead V8 1930's Ford roadsters....
Jag got 2 good V8 engines by the takeover, but failed to make good use of either. The 2.5 V8 when fitted the Mk2 Jag was a lighter and more powerful than the 2.4 inline6 by Jag. The 4.4 V8 beat the Jag 3.8 in a similar way. But the idiots at Jag suffered from the not invented here syndrome and refused to take these engines seriously.
@@basilpunton5702 - it's an interesting argument; if the absolute potential increase in displacement created by 'v'-type engines isn't required, is the inline the better type? Many German and English companies seem to have favored the inline, while here in the US "V8's are great", and sixes (even v-type) seem to be considered dull.
@@floydblandston108 I was alluding to the weight and power of the V8 engines. You are right about the differences between cultures.The Jag i6 were heavy and lower power compared to the V8's. I do not care what is the cylinder count. At 2.5l it is realistically top of 4 and bottom of 8 cylinders, there are exceptions mainly diesel 4's. Weight/power/fuel usage are what is most important.
It's worth recording that the Royal Family were almost exclusively Daimler users until the present Queen changed her allegiance to Rolls Royce in the 1950s. One reason was that the patented Daimler "fluid flywheel" preselector transmission made them ideal for low-speed parade work. From the mid 30s the British Daimler company made more money from their bus chassis than from the cars, the last buses coming off the production line in 1981. That same transmission which made for ease of driving was still a major selling point.
No mention of Daimler buses that were made in the United Kingdom. The last model was the Daimler Fleetline, a double deck bus chassis that was very popular with municipal bus operators until production ended in the early 1980's.
Before you say it, Brits say "DAY-MLER", Germans say "DIE-MLER". I've picked one way to say it and I've stuck with it. To explain why Daimler became to use the Mercedes name, it was a brand name that they eventually used as their company name, maybe because of the confusion of using "Daimler".
When I was a boy we had a 2.5litre V8 in the Jag Mk2 body. Perhaps some info on Lady Docker and the Docker Daimlers that pushed the company into more financial distress. Daimler Dart, possibly first fibreglass bodied car. 4.2 and 2.5 V8 engines were excellent. But what happened to the German Engines?
Interesting video, thank you. Love the picture of the car used to carry visitors to Medlow Bath, the location of the once fabulous Hydro Majestic Hotel, and the Jenolan Caves in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney.
Perfect content as always, sir. It clears up my confusion, why "Daimler" (a seemingly German brand) was a producer of British armored vehicle and automobiles.
Nice of you to show the Danish "Crown One", The Queen's vehicle for official affairs, a DS 420, we enjoy seing around town here. When she's on private business, like personal shopping, she uses "Crown 121", which was a Jaguar XJ last time I saw it.
In 1978 my wife and I were in England on holiday and hired an Imp in Liverpool and spent a couple of weeks touring Scotland. I hadn't seen one before and was very impressed with it, a real pleasure to drive. Prior to that we had the use of a mini which compared very poorly to the Imp.
For me growing up I always knew them as posh jags, but later I knew about the Mercedes tie in, but never knew about the Indian connection. Great and informative video.
no Mercedes tie in. Daimler tie in. The Mercedes brand name was created years later by Emil Jellinek, son of a Vienna rabbi, who became Daimler´s (DMG, Daimler Motorengesellschaft) first international salesman. Mercedes was the name of Emil Jellinek´s daughter. Jellinek´s first wife was from a Sephardic (Spanish) Jewish family in Algiers. Hence the Spanish name of their daughter: Mercédès
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂. Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂 According to the Brits and British documentaries: Paper was invented in Britain 😂 Water was first discovered in Britain 😂 Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂 American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂 Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣 Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂 Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂 Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂 Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣 Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂 Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂 Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂 When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂 Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂 A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭 If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
There was also Austro-Daimler, which started as a sister company of german Daimler in Austria but became independent in 1909. They stopped making cars in the 1930s and went up in the Steyer-Daimler-Puch industrial conglomerate. In the 1970s now Steyer-Puch colaborated with Mercedes Benz to design and manufacture an off-road vehicle, which became the g-class.
Thank you for this! I found the whole naming very confusing after seeing that Jags were also called Daimlers, but Daimler was the parent company of Merc
Jaguars are not called Daimler, Jaguars are called Jaguar. Jaguar offer a trim level called Daimler the same way that Ford offer a trim level called Ghia. Ford are not called Ghia.
@@vectorfiles Daimler AG didn't change its name to Mercedes Benz group until February 2022, they also no longer make trucks since Daimler truck was spun off as a independent company in 2021
I used to work for a coachbuilders Startins of Aston in the 80s we converted many DS420s to hearses they were beautiful comfortable old girls I always had a fondness for them.
My fave (beside my own) was the Majestic Major, a large saloon (sedan) introduced in 1960 and often built as a limousine. It was timed by one magazine as reaching 60 mph in 9.1 seconds. That's one really happy chauffeur!
There has been a bit of restructuring in what was the Daimler AG. We now have three companies: Mercedes-Benz AG including sub-brands Mercedes-Maybach (luxury), Mercedes-AMG (performance), smart (small cars), Mercedes-EQ (electric cars). Daimler Trucks AG selling trucks and buses under the brands BharatBenz, Freightliner, FUSO, Mercedes-Benz (again), Setra, Thomas Built Buses and Western Star. And Mercedes-Benz Mobility AG specialising on financing, leasing, insurance and fleet management. (Side note: Siemens Mobility uses the same term but does something completely different: building trains ...) People will remember that Daimler-Benz, Daimler-Chrysler or just Daimler was the name of the corporation behind all of it but that's not true any more with the recent split up. Now it's a sub-brand of Mercedes-Benz Group ....
@@ramadhanisme7 From what I found out, Fuso is 89% owned by Daimler Trucks and 11% by Mitsubishi. They are using the Mitsubishi trademark by a licence agreement.
The escapades of Sir Bernard and Lady Docker at the helm of BSA/Daimler in the 50's are a fascinating tidbit of automotive history. It's been suggested that they were the death of Daimlers for the Royals.
It's really interesting about these other British luxury marques, Such as Lanchester, Armstrong-Siddeley, Alvis, Lagonda, Bristol, and pre Jaguar Daimlers, I also like Austin Sheerlines and Princesses, and how Vanden Plas and Princess changed from marque to model name to trim level or vice versa
There was a 3rd Daimler car brand. Austro-Daimler. It was a hightech company in Austria-Hungary, creating tanks, aero engines, race cars and high end luxury cars. Car production ended in 1934 when the steyr-daimler-puch AG (some sort of austian british leyland) was founded. Some years ago someone bought the name and is now building a super GT with around 1000 hp under the name Austro-Daimler Bergmeister.
Very informative video about the two "Daimlers". But a small correction. While Tata Motors had a long relationship with the Benz company of Germany, Daimler Benz no longer has any share ownership in Tata Motors. While Tata bought JLR, they did have about 5-6% share, because Mercedes Benz car manufacturing in India had partially depended on the Tata Motors manufacturing facilities at one time. In fact Mercedes Benz India started as a JV with Tata Motors, who were then called Telco (short for Tata Engineering and Locomotive Company Ltd.). Though over time Tata exited that JV and Daimler took a few shares in Tata Motors. But eventually once the co-operation was no longer required, and Tata effectively became a competitor through JLR, Daimler Benz divested its share of Tata Motors back in 2010.
Thanks for clarifying. I think in the video I mentioned at the time of acquisition they had a part ownership, but as you say it was sold around 2010 I believe.
@@TunedMercedes Well "competitive" is a subjective matter, though I had only mentioned JLR are a competitor. Also, not sure I would call a manufacturer which had sales of over 400 thousand cars a "niche producer". And I think many will argue that the Range Rover series is still the benchmark in the premium SUV space.
@@julupani this is a basic business school example actually. MB sets pretty much the market and then you have competitors to it that compete on power or other areas (bmw) and then niche manufacture that may dominate a segment like luxury off road vehicles, ultra luxury etc. I think range rover if they focuses on reliability it can continue to be a great brand.
Interesting article but your pronunciation of Daimler may well have been correct in Germany but in the UK it's always been pronounced as "Dameler" (still spelt Daimler) we do say rain, not rine don't we??? and The Daimler Motor Company was a British company wasn't it? I have a few Daimler cars, not Dimelers!
Hear hear! Also amuses me that even the tyre company Michelin itself pronounces its name 'mitchellin' in its British advertising - only poncey restaurants pronounce it 'meeshlan'. And then there's Nestles, nobody in the UK used to call it Nestlé!
The really interesting part is that Gottlieb Daimler was born Däumler (pronounced "Doimler"). Nowhere is it mentioned why he changed the spelling of his family name. My best guess is that he wanted to adopt his name to British spelling (as there is no "Umlaut ä" in the English alphabet) when he started selling engines in Britain.
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂. Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂 According to the Brits and British documentaries: Paper was invented in Britain 😂 Water was first discovered in Britain 😂 Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂 American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂 Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣 Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂 Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂 Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂 Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣 Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂 Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂 Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂 When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂 Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂 A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭 If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
Gottlieb Daimler was an anglophile and in the early 1930s the German motorcycle company NSU built successful racing bikes constructed my Englishman Walter William Moore and ridden by Tom Bullus of Bradford. How good the 1940s could have been if engineers had shaped the future.
great video. my dad had a bunch of XKR XJR (we modified them quite a bit) from the era that they also sold Daimler which was next level up but less sporty. I got to see a lot of them new though. They were a little longer and had picnic tray tables, that is what stood out about the 90-00 daimler jaguars
I remember seeing a Daimler version of an early 60's Jaguar Mk. II when I was a kid. It was imported to the States by serviceman and was very luxurious.
Absolutely fascinating. I never knew the two were related. I always thought the UK company’s name was pronounced Dameler while the German, Dimeler. Incidentally, my P1 teacher, Miss Langmuir, with whom I was in love, had a Dameler, sorry, Dimeler.
Nobody in the UK pronounces it 'Dimeler', at least, I've never heard it said that way. Most German brand name pronunciations get 'Anglicised' in the UK, either because of the spelling or because the German pronunciation is just too, er, German for us to get our tongues around!
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂. Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂 According to the Brits and British documentaries: Paper was invented in Britain 😂 Water was first discovered in Britain 😂 Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂 American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂 Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣 Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂 Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂 Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂 Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣 Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂 Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂 Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂 When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂 Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂 A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭 If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
purchased my first British Exoticar in 1975 ( 20 yrs. old , Working Cowboy in TEXAS ) 1975 Lotus Europa S2 ( Renault Power ) daily driver for 8 yrs. , 40+ yrs. , 3 live aboard Yachts , a luxury Motor Coach , and a TRUCK LOAD of Cars LATER !!!! lol , still a wild a$$ Cowboy / Surfer here on Padre Island !!!! watched your Crossfire mini docu ( sweet ) , currently living at Beach Front RV Resort with my Coach , race car trailer and my 06 Daimler Ghia Crossfire ( purchased NEW in 06 ) i have discovered , lol , when you are on a RIGHTOUS SURFING SAFARI DONT EVER STOP !!!!
When I think of Daimler, I think of the 2.5 liter hemi V8 that is currently being rebuilt in our shop…. Which is based on a Triumph/Norton motorcycle engine.
Many years ago when cars were registered local the Queen's cars were registered in Kingston upon Hull. It has been a while since I came across this but I believe HRH may have been one of the registration alphabetical groups.
Hm, yes. We (GB) pronounced Daimler differently too. Big Car could have added not a pinch of salt but pepper to this doc by paying a little attention to the difference...
I do like the 90's Daimlers, I know they are really just posher Jags but they are that little bit more special. I can't see JLR bringing it back now though, especially since they dropped the new XJ.
We call it 'DAME-ler' in England...which by your accent you shoud know! Theres also confusion with Talbot being both English and French at the same time and being hyphonated with Clement -, - Lago, -Darracq, and Sunbeam -, or just standalone...You could do one about that.
Such crisp and well produced mini documentary type bulletin👌🏽👍🏼 As someone from India and as someone who saw it first hand (in the 1990s) of how the Tata's never really took pride in.. nor really marketed the Mercedes CKDs they assembled.... ..i simply feel sorry for the Jaguar brand now.
The Mercedes name came about in 1900 - Emile Jellinek was a very wealthy individual and was the Consul-General for the Austro-Hungarian empire in Nice, France. He was a supporter of the Daimler company and acted as an unofficial distributor of the cars to his friends. Paul Daimler (Gottleib's son) had designed a new, more radical, car and Jellinek was so impressed, he placed an order for 36 of the new model paying a large amount of money up front. The new car was called the Mercedes after Jellinek's daughter. After that, all the cars were called Mercedes and later Mercedes-Benz, following the merger with the Benz company in the 1920s.
This is brilliant. I have always wondered about this. I remember seeing what I thought were XJ6 Jaguars badged as Daimlers and thinking, 'The're German arnt they?
Thank you very much indeed! While I roughly knew the whole story, I am very grateful for your excellent brief explanation! I am sure most people had no idea! Very well told!
Just one remark: you (Big Car) could have added not a pinch of salt but rather a bit of pepper by paying attention to the different pronounciation between the German and British Daimler companies. Myself being British born but also German language speaker. You only used the German (original) pronounciation.
To be honest I wasn't aware of the British pronunciation. I've been living in the US too long! When I was made aware of it after the Chrysler Crossfire video I thought of changing to say "daymler" for the British one, but the video was already in the can. I agree it would have been better, at least to differentiate both companies audibly.
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂. Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂 According to the Brits and British documentaries: Paper was invented in Britain 😂 Water was first discovered in Britain 😂 Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂 American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂 Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣 Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂 Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂 Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂 Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣 Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂 Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂 Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂 When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂 Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂 A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭 If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
@@stevenr2463 In the UK it wasn't a trim level it was a separate marque, like how we got the (non classic) Mercury Cougar as a Ford Cougar because we don't have the Mercury marque over here
Strange pronunciation of Daimler it's DAimler (Day im ler) not DIamler, As for the same company making the Mini as the Limos, The vast majority of the Limos were built at Vanden Plas in Kingsbury
I worked for a mercedes/jaguar/Audi dealer in the 90s. Jag had a vaden plas (my mis-spelling) trim level that had a fluted grill and deck trim that looked like the Daimler in some of the pictures
I noticed a photo early in this video of a Daimler car with signwriting that said "Medlow Bath and Jenolan Caves" A nice little Australian connections as they are two areas in the Blue Mountains to the west of Sydney. I know them both well. BTW, I noticed you pronounce the name like "Dime ler", I always thought it was "Dame ler". I guess I had it wrong all these years.
Thanks! I always wondered how we got Jaguars under the Daimler brand. Daimler was and is still often used by workers of Mercedes-Benz AG (former Daimler-Benz and DaimlerChrysler) to represent their company. The say "Ich schaff beim Daimler" and they didn't mention neither Mercedes nor Benz. So... Daimler is still a thing in Germany, although is officially not used anymore for the car division.
Much as I always love these Videos I do find you saying "Dyemlar" annoying. All my friends always called it "Dame-lar". Even the BBC would agree with that.
The biggest turn of events in auto industry is, in WW2, Rolls Royce built British spitfires and BMW built German MEs. The two battled the skies for dominance, half a century later, BMW came to own Rolls Royce auto division.
allways interesting info you upload! if i may suggest another name to explain, as an austrian i'd be happy to hear you talking about MERCEDES! hint: her last name was JELINEK!
Britain was not the only country where Gottlieb Daimler entered a licensing agreement, there was also Austro-Daimler (which gave Ferdinand Porsche his start in the auto industry and which marketed a "Maja" car named after Emil Jellinek's *other* daughter) and, briefly, America (the "American Mercedes" built by the family that owned the Steinway piano company). It showed how little he knew about how the industry and markets would work out that Daimler (the man) gave Simms the license for all the British Empire which left the Steinways with the US only. Even ten years later, Simms would've wound up the licensee for the British Empire excluding Canada and Steinway the one for USA *and* Canada.
When I was a boy we had a V8 2.5 Daimler (Mk2 Jag body. Perhaps some information about Lady Docker and the Docker Daimlers. Excellent 4.2 and 2.5 V8's the Daimler Dart and what happened to the German Engines???
I owned a 1988 Daimler branded Jaguar XJ40 for several years. It was a beautiful looking car with an interior that was stunning to look act and to sit in. It had picnic tables, tan leather upholstery and polished wood trim and everything about it was luxurious. Unfortunately it suffered from typical Jaguar reliability or lack thereof otherwise I would have kept it.
Great video (as ever!). I had often wondered what the relationship was so it was fabulous you made this video telling the story. Full disclosure I own a '68 Daimler V8 250 :)
Before watching I was thinking about sone weird old colonial hangover tradition. Love you explaining these random automotive facts, could be a series in it of itself!
I believe Daimler (of Coventry!) acquired Lanchester as a lower middle class brand but that went nowhere fast either. So I wonder of the Lanch name is another Tata has rights to.
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As I can see, I’m not the only person who really appreciates this explanation. I first noticed Daimler cars living in South Africa in the 2000s. They always looked like re-badged Jags. It has confused me for years, but my confusion and curiosity was never enough to look into the matter. Thank you for making this video.
Basically it has become and an ultra luxurious trim level for jaguar but they there hasn't been another one since the the lunch of the new style XJ In 2010
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂.
Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂
According to the Brits and British documentaries:
Paper was invented in Britain 😂
Water was first discovered in Britain 😂
Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂
American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂
Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣
Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂
Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂
Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂
Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣
Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂
Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂
Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂
When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂
Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂
A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭
If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
Now it's tata
I’d love for Daimler to make cars again with their badge. And Lanchester. They haven’t made a car since 1956 but they’re still an active marque
They should be JLRs brand to compete with Rolls Royce & Bentley
To be honest I think jag should simply move upmarket and stop trying to compete with BMW or Mercedes as it never succeeds at that and maybe introduce a brand bellow they own the Rover marque for example
@@Thanos.m oh dear ... as a Jag passenger since 1968 and later driver, for at least two decades, I believe that Jaguar is no more. Not worth it. Forget it. It has become a revenge of the colonies.
@@Lando-kx6so yes!
Daimler is now a truck company. I was recently thinking about this and I think they should make it as a car company. But where do you place it?
How things changes today's Daimler is owned by Indian company . Kudos to TATA Motor and Ratan tata😎
still we need the diamond back.
That's as far as it goes name only
@@bishalnath24 aisa mat bolo bmro sab log apni apni chize mangne lage to adhe se jyada England khali ho jayega 😪
@@awdhootkanawade 🤣
@@awdhootkanawade sarcasm 🤣
As an American, my only experience with these came by way of my Father, who spent enough time in Europe with the U.S. Army to become seriously infatuated with (among others) the Daimler-Jag V8. He told me about them for years until we came across one at an auto show. He actually owned a pre-WWII Mercedes sedan, a V8 BMW, and a Beetle he picked up new right at the factory. While working for a major German distributor during his time off-base, he got to set up new Porsche Speedsters for delivery, lapping them on the banked track behind the dealership, with many going to Allied officers. He also claims to be the first person to drive the NSU rotary engine in its test mule chassis, blasting laps at a then mind blowing 8-9000 rpm.
Pretty exciting stuff for a 19 year old kid who'd grown up building stripped down flathead V8 1930's Ford roadsters....
cool!
American-market Jaguar-era Daimlers were marketed as "Jaguar (model name) Vanden Plas".
Jag got 2 good V8 engines by the takeover, but failed to make good use of either. The 2.5 V8 when fitted the Mk2 Jag was a lighter and more powerful than the 2.4 inline6 by Jag. The 4.4 V8 beat the Jag 3.8 in a similar way.
But the idiots at Jag suffered from the not invented here syndrome and refused to take these engines seriously.
@@basilpunton5702 - it's an interesting argument; if the absolute potential increase in displacement created by 'v'-type engines isn't required, is the inline the better type? Many German and English companies seem to have favored the inline, while here in the US "V8's are great", and sixes (even v-type) seem to be considered dull.
@@floydblandston108 I was alluding to the weight and power of the V8 engines. You are right about the differences between cultures.The Jag i6 were heavy and lower power compared to the V8's. I do not care what is the cylinder count. At 2.5l it is realistically top of 4 and bottom of 8 cylinders, there are exceptions mainly diesel 4's. Weight/power/fuel usage are what is most important.
It's worth recording that the Royal Family were almost exclusively Daimler users until the present Queen changed her allegiance to Rolls Royce in the 1950s. One reason was that the patented Daimler "fluid flywheel" preselector transmission made them ideal for low-speed parade work. From the mid 30s the British Daimler company made more money from their bus chassis than from the cars, the last buses coming off the production line in 1981. That same transmission which made for ease of driving was still a major selling point.
Not to mention, the 'Windsors' have always been sort of 'ixnay on the Ermanjay' about themselves....
Daimler Super V8 - Queen Elizabeth's personal car! - old git, UK
Many thanks for another great video, and a fantastic cameo of the Lego Technic Test Car must be 25 years since I built mine as a young teenager. 👍
I like these shorter, more informal style of videos. A nice change of pace while still being informative
Glad you liked it. I was trying something different.
as a kid i saw Jaguars with a Daimler badge, and i never did understand. But this video clears it all up.
No mention of Daimler buses that were made in the United Kingdom. The last model was the Daimler Fleetline, a double deck bus chassis that was very popular with municipal bus operators until production ended in the early 1980's.
Sorry. Everyone’s being too polite to you here! Nobody in the UK has ever pronounced it Dimeler. It has always been Dame-ler.
well now we know the proper way to say it. you are showing your ignorance.
Before you say it, Brits say "DAY-MLER", Germans say "DIE-MLER". I've picked one way to say it and I've stuck with it.
To explain why Daimler became to use the Mercedes name, it was a brand name that they eventually used as their company name, maybe because of the confusion of using "Daimler".
I left 2 comment and they both disappears. Love your work...
When I was a boy we had a 2.5litre V8 in the Jag Mk2 body. Perhaps some info on Lady Docker and the Docker Daimlers that pushed the company into more financial distress. Daimler Dart, possibly first fibreglass bodied car. 4.2 and 2.5 V8 engines were excellent. But what happened to the German Engines?
@@robertwestinghouse4098 Odd - I can see both of them.
Brits also don't pronounce the "r" AFAIK.
More like „deimler“ 😉
Interesting video, thank you. Love the picture of the car used to carry visitors to Medlow Bath, the location of the once fabulous Hydro Majestic Hotel, and the Jenolan Caves in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney.
My 1984 Mercedes had on its data plate 'Manufactured by Daimler-Benz'. Mercedes was simply the name of the daughter of Daimler-Benz's best client.
Perfect content as always, sir. It clears up my confusion, why "Daimler" (a seemingly German brand) was a producer of British armored vehicle and automobiles.
Nice of you to show the Danish "Crown One", The Queen's vehicle for official affairs, a DS 420, we enjoy seing around town here. When she's on private business, like personal shopping, she uses "Crown 121", which was a Jaguar XJ last time I saw it.
In 1978 my wife and I were in England on holiday and hired an Imp in Liverpool and spent a couple of weeks touring Scotland. I hadn't seen one before and was very impressed with it, a real pleasure to drive. Prior to that we had the use of a mini which compared very poorly to the Imp.
For me growing up I always knew them as posh jags, but later I knew about the Mercedes tie in, but never knew about the Indian connection. Great and informative video.
no Mercedes tie in. Daimler tie in. The Mercedes brand name was created years later by Emil Jellinek, son of a Vienna rabbi, who became Daimler´s (DMG, Daimler Motorengesellschaft) first international salesman. Mercedes was the name of Emil Jellinek´s daughter. Jellinek´s first wife was from a Sephardic (Spanish) Jewish family in Algiers. Hence the Spanish name of their daughter: Mercédès
@@rnayabed they tried to make a car but it failed
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂.
Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂
According to the Brits and British documentaries:
Paper was invented in Britain 😂
Water was first discovered in Britain 😂
Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂
American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂
Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣
Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂
Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂
Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂
Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣
Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂
Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂
Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂
When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂
Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂
A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭
If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
@@chi-8289 umm chill dude?
@@chi-8289 you've used the same emoji over 9000 times
Amazing. I am so delighted you did a video on this subject! Nice work.
Thanks! I've been waiting for someone to explain this to me.
Nice one thanks man I'm glad you did a video explaining Daimler 😀 much respect
There was also Austro-Daimler, which started as a sister company of german Daimler in Austria but became independent in 1909. They stopped making cars in the 1930s and went up in the Steyer-Daimler-Puch industrial conglomerate. In the 1970s now Steyer-Puch colaborated with Mercedes Benz to design and manufacture an off-road vehicle, which became the g-class.
Interesting!
Your videos are pure joy! I wish Discovery channel had you onboard in it’s heyday. I see great things happening.
Thank you for this! I found the whole naming very confusing after seeing that Jags were also called Daimlers, but Daimler was the parent company of Merc
Jaguars are not called Daimler, Jaguars are called Jaguar.
Jaguar offer a trim level called Daimler the same way that Ford offer a trim level called Ghia.
Ford are not called Ghia.
Daimler was not parent company of Mercedes, Mercedes was just the market name of their vehicles.
@@mesuesja80 yes, Daimler AG in Stuttgart, listed in the German DAX, was the parent company of Mercedes-Benz until 2019.
@@vectorfiles Daimler AG didn't change its name to Mercedes Benz group until February 2022, they also no longer make trucks since Daimler truck was spun off as a independent company in 2021
This channel is gonna get HUGE in the near future..
Mark my words!
I used to work for a coachbuilders Startins of Aston in the 80s we converted many DS420s to hearses they were beautiful comfortable old girls I always had a fondness for them.
My fave (beside my own) was the Majestic Major, a large saloon (sedan) introduced in 1960 and often built as a limousine. It was timed by one magazine as reaching 60 mph in 9.1 seconds. That's one really happy chauffeur!
There has been a bit of restructuring in what was the Daimler AG. We now have three companies:
Mercedes-Benz AG including sub-brands Mercedes-Maybach (luxury), Mercedes-AMG (performance), smart (small cars), Mercedes-EQ (electric cars).
Daimler Trucks AG selling trucks and buses under the brands BharatBenz, Freightliner, FUSO, Mercedes-Benz (again), Setra, Thomas Built Buses and Western Star.
And Mercedes-Benz Mobility AG specialising on financing, leasing, insurance and fleet management. (Side note: Siemens Mobility uses the same term but does something completely different: building trains ...)
People will remember that Daimler-Benz, Daimler-Chrysler or just Daimler was the name of the corporation behind all of it but that's not true any more with the recent split up. Now it's a sub-brand of Mercedes-Benz Group ....
Fuso is under daimler now? So they have took over mitsubishi truck?
@@ramadhanisme7 From what I found out, Fuso is 89% owned by Daimler Trucks and 11% by Mitsubishi. They are using the Mitsubishi trademark by a licence agreement.
The escapades of Sir Bernard and Lady Docker at the helm of BSA/Daimler in the 50's are a fascinating tidbit of automotive history. It's been suggested that they were the death of Daimlers for the Royals.
Holy cow just noticed the logo. That's brilliant.
I have one of the last Daimler Super Eights, built in late 2008. Never seen another!
It's really interesting about these other British luxury marques, Such as Lanchester, Armstrong-Siddeley, Alvis, Lagonda, Bristol, and pre Jaguar Daimlers, I also like Austin Sheerlines and Princesses, and how Vanden Plas and Princess changed from marque to model name to trim level or vice versa
There was a 3rd Daimler car brand. Austro-Daimler. It was a hightech company in Austria-Hungary, creating tanks, aero engines, race cars and high end luxury cars. Car production ended in 1934 when the steyr-daimler-puch AG (some sort of austian british leyland) was founded. Some years ago someone bought the name and is now building a super GT with around 1000 hp under the name Austro-Daimler Bergmeister.
0:23 - Using sound from "Angry German Kid" was a nice touch
Was looking through the comments hoping someone else noticed haha
For some strange reason I seem to be hitting the like button way before the video ends...... Love your stuff, Mr. Big Car 🙂
Very informative video about the two "Daimlers". But a small correction.
While Tata Motors had a long relationship with the Benz company of Germany, Daimler Benz no longer has any share ownership in Tata Motors. While Tata bought JLR, they did have about 5-6% share, because Mercedes Benz car manufacturing in India had partially depended on the Tata Motors manufacturing facilities at one time. In fact Mercedes Benz India started as a JV with Tata Motors, who were then called Telco (short for Tata Engineering and Locomotive Company Ltd.). Though over time Tata exited that JV and Daimler took a few shares in Tata Motors. But eventually once the co-operation was no longer required, and Tata effectively became a competitor through JLR, Daimler Benz divested its share of Tata Motors back in 2010.
Thanks for clarifying. I think in the video I mentioned at the time of acquisition they had a part ownership, but as you say it was sold around 2010 I believe.
i mean im not sure id say they are competitive. one is a market leader and the other one is a niche producer
@@TunedMercedes Well "competitive" is a subjective matter, though I had only mentioned JLR are a competitor. Also, not sure I would call a manufacturer which had sales of over 400 thousand cars a "niche producer". And I think many will argue that the Range Rover series is still the benchmark in the premium SUV space.
@@julupani this is a basic business school example actually. MB sets pretty much the market and then you have competitors to it that compete on power or other areas (bmw) and then niche manufacture that may dominate a segment like luxury off road vehicles, ultra luxury etc. I think range rover if they focuses on reliability it can continue to be a great brand.
Thanks for explaining! I always wanted to know this but I also always forgot to read something about it. So, thanks again. 👍
Interesting article but your pronunciation of Daimler may well have been correct in Germany but in the UK it's always been pronounced as "Dameler" (still spelt Daimler) we do say rain, not rine don't we??? and The Daimler Motor Company was a British company wasn't it? I have a few Daimler cars, not Dimelers!
Thank you for saying this - I didn't because of perhaps offence to what is a rather good channel.
Hear hear!
Also amuses me that even the tyre company Michelin itself pronounces its name 'mitchellin' in its British advertising - only poncey restaurants pronounce it 'meeshlan'. And then there's Nestles, nobody in the UK used to call it Nestlé!
The really interesting part is that Gottlieb Daimler was born Däumler (pronounced "Doimler"). Nowhere is it mentioned why he changed the spelling of his family name.
My best guess is that he wanted to adopt his name to British spelling (as there is no "Umlaut ä" in the English alphabet) when he started selling engines in Britain.
@@vectorfiles or because Daumen means thumb in german and there is a story about the Däumling, a man as big as a thumb
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂.
Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂
According to the Brits and British documentaries:
Paper was invented in Britain 😂
Water was first discovered in Britain 😂
Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂
American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂
Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣
Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂
Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂
Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂
Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣
Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂
Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂
Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂
When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂
Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂
A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭
If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
That was a refreshing video 🥳 Thank you 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great explanation! Thanks for that!
Gottlieb Daimler was an anglophile and in the early 1930s the German motorcycle company NSU built successful racing bikes constructed my Englishman Walter William Moore and ridden by Tom Bullus of Bradford. How good the 1940s could have been if engineers had shaped the future.
True dat ! 😉
For goodness sake, man, when I was growing up in England in the 1960s and 70s, it was pronounced the way it looks, not "Dymeler".
Maybe he's trying the German pronunciation, since that is the origin of the brand?
UK brand is Daymler. German is Diemler.
@@creamwobbly
Nothing wrong with using the word "brand".
And how does it look to be pronounced?
Ngl Pronouncing it as "Dymler" sounds way cooler than "Deimler"
great video. my dad had a bunch of XKR XJR (we modified them quite a bit) from the era that they also sold Daimler which was next level up but less sporty. I got to see a lot of them new though. They were a little longer and had picnic tray tables, that is what stood out about the 90-00 daimler jaguars
Nice colours on channel's logo 👍
Nice information 👍🏻👍🏻🙏 greetings from India
I remember seeing a Daimler version of an early 60's Jaguar Mk. II when I was a kid. It was imported to the States by serviceman and was very luxurious.
That was the Daimler 250 made from 1962-69. It had the same body as a Jaguar MKII but with a 2.5 litre V8 engine.
Absolutely fascinating. I never knew the two were related. I always thought the UK company’s name was pronounced Dameler while the German, Dimeler.
Incidentally, my P1 teacher, Miss Langmuir, with whom I was in love, had a Dameler, sorry, Dimeler.
Nobody in the UK pronounces it 'Dimeler', at least, I've never heard it said that way. Most German brand name pronunciations get 'Anglicised' in the UK, either because of the spelling or because the German pronunciation is just too, er, German for us to get our tongues around!
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂.
Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂
According to the Brits and British documentaries:
Paper was invented in Britain 😂
Water was first discovered in Britain 😂
Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂
American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂
Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣
Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂
Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂
Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂
Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣
Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂
Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂
Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂
When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂
Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂
A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭
If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
@@chi-8289 yea the British told the world that their shitt doesn't stink 🦧
I can't believe you forgot to mention Daimler-Chrysler! That was the name of the merged company, and found on thy plaque in my 99 Dodge Ram pickup.
thank you for this little video, now I understand why the only Daimler I knew looked like old Jaguar and not Mercedes Benz
purchased my first British Exoticar in 1975 ( 20 yrs. old , Working Cowboy in TEXAS ) 1975 Lotus Europa S2 ( Renault Power ) daily driver for 8 yrs. , 40+ yrs. , 3 live aboard Yachts , a luxury Motor Coach , and a TRUCK LOAD of Cars LATER !!!! lol , still a wild a$$ Cowboy / Surfer here on Padre Island !!!! watched your Crossfire mini docu ( sweet ) , currently living at Beach Front RV Resort with my Coach , race car trailer and my 06 Daimler Ghia Crossfire ( purchased NEW in 06 ) i have discovered , lol , when you are on a RIGHTOUS SURFING SAFARI DONT EVER STOP !!!!
Love these videos! Call me a completist, but when you get a chance you should do the Rover 600 story!
I’ll have to do that one!
When I think of Daimler, I think of the 2.5 liter hemi V8 that is currently being rebuilt in our shop…. Which is based on a Triumph/Norton motorcycle engine.
Many years ago when cars were registered local the Queen's cars were registered in Kingston upon Hull. It has been a while since I came across this but I believe HRH may have been one of the registration alphabetical groups.
I was aware of Daimler (the engineer), but not of the strange, bifurcated nature and even the existence of the UK Daimler. Fascinating.
Hm, yes. We (GB) pronounced Daimler differently too. Big Car could have added not a pinch of salt but pepper to this doc by paying a little attention to the difference...
I do like the 90's Daimlers, I know they are really just posher Jags but they are that little bit more special. I can't see JLR bringing it back now though, especially since they dropped the new XJ.
The XJ will return as an electric
You mean the X391?
It was cancelled late last year.
We call it 'DAME-ler' in England...which by your accent you shoud know! Theres also confusion with Talbot being both English and French at the same time and being hyphonated with Clement -, - Lago, -Darracq, and Sunbeam -, or just standalone...You could do one about that.
Man always wondered what the heck Daimler was. This video helps me understand thanks
Such crisp and well produced mini documentary type bulletin👌🏽👍🏼
As someone from India and as someone who saw it first hand (in the 1990s) of how the Tata's never really took pride in.. nor really marketed the Mercedes CKDs they assembled....
..i simply feel sorry for the Jaguar brand now.
The Mercedes name came about in 1900 - Emile Jellinek was a very wealthy individual and was the Consul-General for the Austro-Hungarian empire in Nice, France. He was a supporter of the Daimler company and acted as an unofficial distributor of the cars to his friends. Paul Daimler (Gottleib's son) had designed a new, more radical, car and Jellinek was so impressed, he placed an order for 36 of the new model paying a large amount of money up front. The new car was called the Mercedes after Jellinek's daughter. After that, all the cars were called Mercedes and later Mercedes-Benz, following the merger with the Benz company in the 1920s.
Thank you for that Stephen; too many today neither know nor care about such fascinating details which bring little footnotes in history alive...
This is brilliant. I have always wondered about this. I remember seeing what I thought were XJ6 Jaguars badged as Daimlers and thinking, 'The're German arnt they?
Thanks for making this video. I have always wondered why/how two Daimlers existed, and if there was any connection between the two.
Thank you very much indeed! While I roughly knew the whole story, I am very grateful for your excellent brief explanation! I am sure most people had no idea! Very well told!
Just one remark: you (Big Car) could have added not a pinch of salt but rather a bit of pepper by paying attention to the different pronounciation between the German and British Daimler companies. Myself being British born but also German language speaker. You only used the German (original) pronounciation.
To be honest I wasn't aware of the British pronunciation. I've been living in the US too long! When I was made aware of it after the Chrysler Crossfire video I thought of changing to say "daymler" for the British one, but the video was already in the can. I agree it would have been better, at least to differentiate both companies audibly.
@@BigCar2Big Car - you are living in the US??? Honestly? Your English is still very good ... 😉
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂.
Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂
According to the Brits and British documentaries:
Paper was invented in Britain 😂
Water was first discovered in Britain 😂
Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂
American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂
Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣
Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂
Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂
Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂
Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣
Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂
Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂
Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂
When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂
Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂
A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭
If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
I've often wondered indeed why Jaguar hasn't reintroduced Daimler as like an ultra luxury trim level on their cars indeed.
Well, now you know ...
@@stevenr2463 In the UK it wasn't a trim level it was a separate marque, like how we got the (non classic) Mercury Cougar as a Ford Cougar because we don't have the Mercury marque over here
@@londonweekend I am from Guernsey, GB. Seems I might have been misunderstood.
Strange pronunciation of Daimler it's DAimler (Day im ler) not DIamler, As for the same company making the Mini as the Limos, The vast majority of the Limos were built at Vanden Plas in Kingsbury
I worked for a mercedes/jaguar/Audi dealer in the 90s. Jag had a vaden plas (my mis-spelling) trim level that had a fluted grill and deck trim that looked like the Daimler in some of the pictures
Yes. Because they couldn’t use the Daimler name in USA. They called it VDP
You say "Dime ler" I say "Dame ler"....
I noticed a photo early in this video of a Daimler car with signwriting that said "Medlow Bath and Jenolan Caves"
A nice little Australian connections as they are two areas in the Blue Mountains to the west of Sydney. I know them both well.
BTW, I noticed you pronounce the name like "Dime ler", I always thought it was "Dame ler". I guess I had it wrong all these years.
I must say I appreciate that explanation, But I have never heard DayMler pronounced as DimeLer.. Thanks.
Thanks! I always wondered how we got Jaguars under the Daimler brand. Daimler was and is still often used by workers of Mercedes-Benz AG (former Daimler-Benz and DaimlerChrysler) to represent their company. The say "Ich schaff beim Daimler" and they didn't mention neither Mercedes nor Benz. So... Daimler is still a thing in Germany, although is officially not used anymore for the car division.
I always wondered if there was a connection between the two
Much as I always love these Videos I do find you saying "Dyemlar" annoying. All my friends always called it "Dame-lar". Even the BBC would agree with that.
The fighting and talking voices were impressive
Will you add Austro-Daimler into the next program?
"Daym-luh" is the most widely accepted British pronunciation of Daimler, not "dime-lah".
Of course I would give my eye teeth for a Daimler Double Six!
Check out the 1980 Briggs and Stratton 6 wheeled gas electric hybrid car. I think it is a great subject for you to make a video of.
Yeah, that would be a fun one to do!
Please talk about the Rover P5B and the Queen! My dad owns one
Thank you!
The biggest turn of events in auto industry is, in WW2, Rolls Royce built British spitfires and BMW built German MEs. The two battled the skies for dominance, half a century later, BMW came to own Rolls Royce auto division.
An excellent explanation.
allways interesting info you upload! if i may suggest another name to explain, as an austrian i'd be happy to hear you talking about MERCEDES! hint: her last name was JELINEK!
Very interesting story! Thanks!
Nice job choosing a Fiero to represent Pontiac at the end. One of the few Pontiacs to not have an equivalent Chevrolet, Buick, or Oldsmobile
It was random, although the Fiero is one of the most famous Pontiacs, maybe not for the best reasons!
Britain was not the only country where Gottlieb Daimler entered a licensing agreement, there was also Austro-Daimler (which gave Ferdinand Porsche his start in the auto industry and which marketed a "Maja" car named after Emil Jellinek's *other* daughter) and, briefly, America (the "American Mercedes" built by the family that owned the Steinway piano company).
It showed how little he knew about how the industry and markets would work out that Daimler (the man) gave Simms the license for all the British Empire which left the Steinways with the US only. Even ten years later, Simms would've wound up the licensee for the British Empire excluding Canada and Steinway the one for USA *and* Canada.
ayyy theres a fiero! good video.
When I was a boy we had a V8 2.5 Daimler (Mk2 Jag body. Perhaps some information about Lady Docker and the Docker Daimlers. Excellent 4.2 and 2.5 V8's the Daimler Dart and what happened to the German Engines???
Dime-ler MEH! Daim-ler thank you
I owned a 1988 Daimler branded Jaguar XJ40 for several years. It was a beautiful looking car with an interior that was stunning to look act and to sit in. It had picnic tables, tan leather upholstery and polished wood trim and everything about it was luxurious. Unfortunately it suffered from typical Jaguar reliability or lack thereof otherwise I would have kept it.
Daimler is also known for Trucks in the US, too. The trucks, and, the Sprinter Vans, which are then sold via Mercedes dealerships.
Great video (as ever!). I had often wondered what the relationship was so it was fabulous you made this video telling the story. Full disclosure I own a '68 Daimler V8 250 :)
Glad you enjoyed it Alex
The Daimler limousines of 1907-13 are so beautiful, and of course the great 420❤❤❤🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I always assumed they were 2 different companies whos unrelated founders just so happened to have the same name.
@ 2:57 - photo from Australia: Medlow Bath and Jenolan Caves.
Before watching I was thinking about sone weird old colonial hangover tradition.
Love you explaining these random automotive facts, could be a series in it of itself!
Where did you got that ISS behind in the showcase? Looks cool
Lego - they made it. Not sure if they still do.
Lady Docker was an peacock personality, whose public flashiness and extravagance, put off buyers of Daimler cars in the late 1950’s
I liked the Majestics. the SP250 was "interesting." The V8 should have been used in the 420/420G series.
I believe Daimler (of Coventry!) acquired Lanchester as a lower middle class brand but that went nowhere fast either. So I wonder of the Lanch name is another Tata has rights to.
According to Wikipedia, JLR owns the brand, so yes. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanchester_Motor_Company
I'm waiting with anticipation of the video about the Peugeot 206
Sorry, Peugeot videos seem to do really badly. Not sure why.
Tata motors must also acquire rolls Royce or BAE systems
I have not heard of a Dimeler before ?