Why Buy the TUDOR Black Bay 58 when this Exists? (SEIKO SPB147 Gilt Dial Review)

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  • @EscapementWatch
    @EscapementWatch  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I spoke about Tudor a lot because I've reviewed the 63MAS 100 times before and this video is for my subs. So if your new here and are curious why so much Tudor talk that is the reason. Go here for a full review of another 63mas. Its same watch just different color: th-cam.com/video/sciWa37cUDA/w-d-xo.html -FALLING

  • @timemeasured9137
    @timemeasured9137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    It should be a Seiko standard to make all their dive watches come with both the silicon strap and metal bracelet.

    • @jimmason8502
      @jimmason8502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would buy this if it was on a bracelet. But I'll get the SPB143J1 instead.

    • @timemeasured9137
      @timemeasured9137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jimmason8502 I own both the SPB143 and SPB147. The silicone strap on the 147 is surprisingly satisfying and is equally as nice as the 143. It comes down to which dial you like the best....If you're a bracelet guy, no doubt get the 143, it's arguably the best of the bunch. The advantage of having both is that I can interchange the bracelet and the strap. Cheers!

    • @sinjon
      @sinjon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jimmason8502if you prefer the 147 you can always buy it then buy a bracelet from strap o. It honestly fits better than the original Seiko bracelet

  • @jaquino6786
    @jaquino6786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    He stops talking about Twodoor at about 5:15

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      some heros dont wear capes!

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @munchkin42 ahahahahahahhahaha

    • @xavierayayaell546
      @xavierayayaell546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Oh thank the lord, nothing more offensive than someone shitting on a Seiko review by keep talking about a watch in a totally different price range.

    • @DonPakundo
      @DonPakundo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He "loves" the brand.

    • @TheJmebe
      @TheJmebe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was just think the exact same thing - is the title wrong!

  • @folumb
    @folumb ปีที่แล้ว +14

    what I like about the 63MAS and 62MAS is that they have an independent lineage to the BB58 but do resemble it. Honestly, as much as I love watches, I can't wrap my head around spending multiple thousands for a watch and Tudor is supposed to be "low end" luxury. For all the imperfections of the Seiko and QC issues other enthusiasts point out, the look and price point are more than enough for me....for now. Maybe if I become rich in the future this comment will be irrelevant but as a solidly middle class person with family, if I have thousands of dollars disposable, it has to go to wife and kids, not to a watch.

  • @TerenceOhh
    @TerenceOhh ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I bought my SPB147 blindly without knowing the heritage behind it. I just love how it looks and it was love at first sight. Researching after acquiring it makes me feel better and wiser. Felt like I won the lottery. Much much excitment after they released the BB58! Awesome video, sir.

  • @catthedog954
    @catthedog954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    "Two Door"

  • @tankt13
    @tankt13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Came for a Seiko review, learned a lot about some brand called Two-Door instead...

  • @canonyeo4286
    @canonyeo4286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I bought this. The gild dial resembles that of the Sla025, a 1968 reissue that won the Grand Prix. Looks rugged on a matching brown shell cordovan strap. A keeper for my collection.

    • @timemeasured9137
      @timemeasured9137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree 100%, this is a keeper in my collection also. Cheers!

  • @philiplauzon1743
    @philiplauzon1743 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m a Tudor fan and I bought a SPB147 and I am sooooo happy. I have a Pelagos and had a BB41 in the past

  • @RandomRobReviews
    @RandomRobReviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great fun video. Thanks for the tip with the timegrapher too, will try that.

  • @javierrodriguez7759
    @javierrodriguez7759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the dark brown tone and the almost yellow font of the hour and bezel marks make a lot of sense in a watch that represents the first diver design. so satisfying, I'm so glad it's not limited at the moment 😍

  • @Laughingorcorp
    @Laughingorcorp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been watching so many videos of Seiko. Wow. Yours review is spot on!

  • @daidojiuji9276
    @daidojiuji9276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just got the SPB147. The colors are awesome in person. It's my 2nd 62mas after the SPB213. Love love the design despite the flaws

  • @MyZippy13
    @MyZippy13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sold my Tudor BB58 Blue and got this and put a Nato on it.

  • @trailblazer2339
    @trailblazer2339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video!loved it. By the way, the accuracy is quite impressive.

  • @SoCalWatchReviews
    @SoCalWatchReviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad I found your channel! Great video man.

  • @gilbertjuarezjr8183
    @gilbertjuarezjr8183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love Seiko watches and just picked up the 62 mas and love it

  • @davidbreckler5327
    @davidbreckler5327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have Tudor 58 and i thought your intro was funny... the Black bay is awesome! I like it more than a Sub...

  • @teixas777
    @teixas777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best watchmaker of the world ! How control the gift of time...richter or poor...all materials...Only SEIKO!

  • @yoinkhaha
    @yoinkhaha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had a two-door once. It didn't have a vertical clutch and column wheel, but it had a manual, clutch, and steering wheel.

    • @jimmason8502
      @jimmason8502 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL. It's pronounced Tooder, not Two-door. And Tudors are not made by Rolex, their made by Tooder.

  • @edteach3r
    @edteach3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome video, thank you. Liked and subscribed. The cappuccino SPB147 is the pick of the crop for me because of the reasons that you pointed out. I tried it on at a local AD and loved it. However, my preferred diver is still my SKX007 (which features a sapphire crystal, coin-edged bezel, ceramic insert and Strapcode bracelet as modded by Marc at Long Island Watch).

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the sub!

    • @jimmason8502
      @jimmason8502 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EscapementWatch I think the brand is pronounced tooder, not two door, as in coupe. Just being picky.

  • @markjohn1910
    @markjohn1910 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve recently purchased the spb 147 . Absolutely love it , only gripe is the strap keeps slipping out of the catcher , which is a pain

  • @scottlalonde2878
    @scottlalonde2878 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, thank you.

  • @iancarnell5020
    @iancarnell5020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Is this a Seiko or Tudor review?

    • @bryanb4308
      @bryanb4308 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s a two door review.

  • @nimai0108
    @nimai0108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will definitely check out Kavar jewelers and mention your channel if I decide to purchase.
    Keep the videos coming 👍

  • @TheStormDeagle
    @TheStormDeagle ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought I was the only one who had this idea then I saw this video! They do resemble closely plus, I love both Seiko and Tudor

  • @N3VURMYND
    @N3VURMYND 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This vid helped a lot! I just ordered this watch at a good deal and I can't wait til I get it! Thanks for the review!
    Ps: also looking to buy that Willard. 😍

  • @Reisito305
    @Reisito305 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3 years later, is it still worth purchasing?

  • @WookieChewie13
    @WookieChewie13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribed. Keep it up, your channel will grow soon!

  • @DeLaSpeed
    @DeLaSpeed 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man, thanks for making this video. I was kinda put off from the stock images of this model, but after seeing this I think it looks dope! I will be checking this watch out at my local AD tomorrow.

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No problem 👍 I believe this one is still available. If you decide to get one Email me for a discount code.

  • @AdiFerG7H
    @AdiFerG7H 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hesitate to buy spb 143 or spb 147 because i read there is a lot accuracy problems, which one do you suggest me ? best regs to all

  • @MrWhite-yg6yk
    @MrWhite-yg6yk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I currently have the four door Seiko. Although a slimmer, more refined two door is next on the list.

  • @evh4611
    @evh4611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That is one beautiful Seiko diver man

  • @kikomachine8276
    @kikomachine8276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's just awesome!

  • @GabrielTan1980
    @GabrielTan1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The only thing I hate about this watch is the inaccuracy of the 6R35 movement. I had the SPB143 and 151, the quality of the overall execution is let down by how inconsistent the accuracy is. Even after regulation.

    • @MrKacperk
      @MrKacperk ปีที่แล้ว

      Get a cheap demagnitizer from ebay. Problem solved. My Seiko 187 went from +25 spd to +1 spd.

  • @emanuele76
    @emanuele76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I own a BB58 that I bought not because I wanted a cheaper Rolex but just because I wanted a gorgeous diver. And that was the case. I also own a Seiko SPB149J1 that I just bought. I use the 2 watched for different reasons and they feel very different on the wrist. Comparing SEIKO and Tudor makes no sense, especially when you then compared each brand to their more expensive sisters. They all have their own history, their reason to exist and they have their own segment.

  • @allanrossfuentes
    @allanrossfuentes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome man! I have a suggestion, if you could try a straight end link strapcode on this watch, that would be awesome. I think there is also a two tone that might suit this 62mas gilt,hehe..

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wish I could but I do not have any!

  • @khronokraze
    @khronokraze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have this very watch. I was originally going for the grey dial version with bracelet. It is nice, also. But, it feels safe and at the time seemed like everyone was going for that one. Besides, I love the brown gilt and the dark grey bezel combo so that's the way I went. The overall vintage looks, the brown could be said to mimic a black dial that's gone tropic towards the brown tone.
    However, mine did pretty badly out of the box, unfortunately. -30 secs per day?! Extremely disappointed to say the least. I gave it a good run for well over 2 weeks and no change. In the end I had to open her up and fix the regulation myself. It's now hovering pretty well around +3 to +5 secs per day. Much better than what it started out with and I prefer to err and deviate towards the + rather than the -.
    I would really like to get a bracelet option for it. But, it probably has to be the seiko OEM one. Why? Because the case finish with the diashield I believe slightly darkens (and warms slightly) the stainless steel. As such, any aftermarket option will be just noticeably brighter and will not be a perfect match. The OEM bracelet should also have the diashield applied to it as well so it should be same slightly darkened look as the case. What I am not looking forward to is paying the price of the oem bracelet. It's like near $300.. at least on Gnomon it is ($290). Idk.. it works on a mesh bracelet pretty well. But, I do like me a matching link bracelet for my watches whenever possible.
    I was considering the boutique version as it comes on a bracelet. But, it seems hard to find and I'm not sure I want to pay the premium on one. I also like the gilt with the brown dial on the one I have now.
    I pretty much agree.. this line of watches is Seiko's BB58 equivalent, regardless of the color.. and, unlike the bb58, we will likely not need to wait years just for 1 additional color option. Seiko got at least 4 out the gates, bam!
    Lastly, curious. Why do you say 63mas? Isn't it 62mas? Sorry if I miss the reference or got something wrong.

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      63 is the first 2 numbers in the movement. Just like 62 was the first two numbers in the movement for the original. 6R mas is used sometimes for the 05x 62mas. Thanks for the input bro! The 143 did feel safe to me as well. It sucks you has a bad movement tho.

    • @khronokraze
      @khronokraze 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EscapementWatch ah, got it. Thanks. Yeah, no matter if paying low $100s or $1k+, unfortunately seiko qc has reasonable level to be subpar. But, it still is one of my favorite brands and I do enjoy the many variety they offer, regardless.

    • @kikomachine8276
      @kikomachine8276 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got the Willard X and put an Uncle Seiko Waffle strap on it. When I get to buy this 147 I'd put the seiko bracelet on it... I think it could work out fine.

  • @leath25
    @leath25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still think my orient kano looks similar to all the seikos 62 mas and this one alike.ive got the black dial and red bezel. Still only £156.00on amazon uk.and runs +2 seconds a day.well mine does.only trouble is you need a 7 inch wrist to pull it off.

  • @sneak880
    @sneak880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the bezel diameter flush with the case at 40.5mm?

  • @user-bn9dp7ps4w
    @user-bn9dp7ps4w ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol enjoyed the sad violin

  • @simonwright6882
    @simonwright6882 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is the 2 door a coupe or a convertible..?

  • @johnwick860
    @johnwick860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    rare case wherein "cream" beats a "blue" 👍🏼

  • @resjon7981
    @resjon7981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pulled the trigger, SPB147 on its way!

  • @RayMelville
    @RayMelville ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video but what's a two door?

  • @MarcraM82
    @MarcraM82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your channel is good! i wish they made the BB58 with a silver bezel though! then id buy. like the old heritage models but the 39mm case.

  • @antiquaantique
    @antiquaantique 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi FallingTitan, just out of curiosity i found your post on reddit regarding you selling the bracelet that came with SPB143 which was apparently for SPB051, was it true? How does it fit into the SPB143? Is the endlink wobbly? I'm thinking to get the bracelet from SPB051 as it fits better to SPB143 imo. Been lookin into this information but i couldn't find any information. Would you be able to share some pictures of SPB143 on that bracelet, if any? Cheers mate, greetings from down under...

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I sold the watch. I bought it used with that bracelet on it. The seller swapped it with his old SPB051 by accident. There was no wobble if I recall correctly and it fit well. I don't have any photos of it sorry.

    • @antiquaantique
      @antiquaantique 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EscapementWatch okay, no worries thank you so much for clarifying.. 🙏

  • @Twin_solo_az
    @Twin_solo_az 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the bezel diameter? I can't find this anywhere. That number will pretty much decide if I buy this or not. Thanks for your videos.

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      check out my 62mas vs 63mas video I believe I did measure in that one. I do not remember the exact number atm

  • @davidcoleman2796
    @davidcoleman2796 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the gry dial . This is a nice watch . I think it is a bit to big for me .

  • @rustydrog
    @rustydrog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Two-door?

  • @saintsmccastle3521
    @saintsmccastle3521 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello!. Beautiful Seiko ......but I miss an applied Seiko logo and a framed date window in gold matching hands and indexes .....cheers!.

  • @dariot707
    @dariot707 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why doesn’t the Seiko bezel line up with the 12 o’clock dial 👎

  • @stevem863
    @stevem863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Clearly great looking watch. Tudor is the baby sister to Rolex, but I think they are moving forward in the affordable luxury watch line. As for Seiko, they make classic watches at affordable prices that are super reliable. Just dig the dial color with the gold accents to the hands and indices. Great lum, nice bezel. Just another watch that is oversized.

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      40mm is over size?

    • @stevem863
      @stevem863 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, 40mm is my sweet spot. Did I get the case size wrong?

  • @danielleclare2938
    @danielleclare2938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BB58 looks perfect. Form following function always pleases and I just like it and want the 925. Rolex has nothing to do with it.

  • @jasonbarnwell4680
    @jasonbarnwell4680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would get this one over the 143 if it wasn’t for the white date window sticking out like a sore thumb

  • @entroheat
    @entroheat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw a video when you said the Tudor bezel action is best for 60 clicks, I own the s&g and before that the 79230R but man they nice in their bezel action for sure but not close to my SLA039 or my grand seiko SBGA031 and that’s an older model. In my opinion high end seikos and grand seikos have better bezel action that Tudor and on par with Rolex.

  • @lennybolo
    @lennybolo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos so much!!!
    You just really know what you're doing.
    It is awesome!!!!!

  • @fd6661
    @fd6661 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want the SPB143 on this rubber strap

  • @drgeek100
    @drgeek100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think Black Bay 58 will become a classic and price will surge in a few years....especially after they discontinue the line.

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Price has increased in 2022 from Tudor to $3900 now.

  • @El-AYE-Ra1s3d
    @El-AYE-Ra1s3d ปีที่แล้ว +1

    U should do a vs of this watch vs the spb209

  • @MANZE077
    @MANZE077 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the Spb143, love it. Spb147 is on the way. Nice review and "TwoDoor" nods...

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good choice!

    • @daveLin104
      @daveLin104 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi do you prefer the 143 or 147 :)

    • @MANZE077
      @MANZE077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@daveLin104 I kept the 143.

    • @daveLin104
      @daveLin104 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Manny A if you don't mind me asking why the 143 ? Is more universal than the 147 ? Is the gold too much after a while.

    • @MANZE077
      @MANZE077 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daveLin104 I had the 143 first. The 147 is a beautiful watch, but after having both I decided I would keep only 1, and that was the 143. You cannot go wrong with either. The gold/ gilt accents on the 147 are not too much, it is a classic looking watch, really is!

  • @michaelfierman3256
    @michaelfierman3256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That is one gorgeous watch, but since for about 2:48 seconds you made me feel like a second class citizen...Tudor owner ( Tudor poseur? ) it took me a while to recover. So aside from that, you mentioned another version of this with no gilt? because I'd be interested in that. I love the brown dial, but maybe too much gilt on this particular one for me. Timegrapher winner though!

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      haha sorry bro. some ppl call the tudor the poor mans rolex. I dont but just saying ever hear that one???? it sucks but its out there. Yes another brown only available from seiko boutique. the boutique version. Im trying to get one.

    • @michaelfierman3256
      @michaelfierman3256 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EscapementWatch I was kidding....it didn't bother me at all. If people think that who cares? I love mine. Great episode

  • @OpheliaNL
    @OpheliaNL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish the SPB147J1 would come with a metal bracelet

  • @jlzab6914
    @jlzab6914 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please, what is the difference between SPB147 and Sbdc 105. Thanks

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      nothing. just international reference number vs north american

    • @jlzab6914
      @jlzab6914 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EscapementWatch Merci 👍

  • @siulungkwong
    @siulungkwong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful

  • @haybob2527
    @haybob2527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I want a 2 Door hatchback..😁👍

  • @TheViolentTeddy
    @TheViolentTeddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I came here for the Seiko. Not the Two door!! 🤣🤣🤪🤪😝😝

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry not sorry!

    • @TheViolentTeddy
      @TheViolentTeddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EscapementWatch you're funny!! 🤣🤣
      See you on the SAASY page!!

  • @tacohans2262
    @tacohans2262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dont think you beat anything or the system by buying a Tudor. People buy Rolex cause of the brand. Rolex is a brand that none watch people buy because of the name and nothing else. 90% of Rolex buyers dont know anything about watches. You wont get the name and the brand by buying the Tudor. You will get a great watch like Omega and JLC etc, but thats not important for most of the Rolex buyers (sheeps)

  • @jonandresen1483
    @jonandresen1483 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool watch, I have the 149 and love it. Your content is good but man, could do without the boudoir shots, don't want to know you that well ha ha!.

  • @blueday6067
    @blueday6067 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to ask if the strap is suitable for people with a wrist only 16cm,thanks

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have 16.5cm so yes it will fit.

    • @blueday6067
      @blueday6067 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Understood, Thank you very much for your answer😀

  • @MisterMaster4life
    @MisterMaster4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for sharing. Great video, great humor, love the watch.. I actually just bought a Tudor Black Bay Steel and gold and a Tudor Royal day date in steel. Really nice watches. But yeah, nobody cares about Tudor being a sister brand of Rolex. I don't even bother explaining it to people. Nobody cares, I don't even care! I like them but always end up selling them anyways. They sure don't prevent me from contemplating to flip the Black Bay and buy this Seiko. It's super good looking.
    How I see it, in the end there are 10 kind of watch wearers.
    1) The Sleeper: The type that's not really into watches. They buy or get a watch and wear it for the rest of their life. Like my girlfriend for instance. In our 10 year relationship, she wore one Rado Diastar for 10 years straight. And I bet my life on it 10 years from now in 2031 she will be still wearing that same watch😴😴😴😴
    2) The Flasher: The type that has money enough and buys the most expensive one just for the status but has no clue about movements or history of brands. They love their monstrosity iced out Jacob the jeweler watches, Blinged out Rolex's and other hideous watches normal people wouldn't want to be caught dead with.
    3) The Nitpicker: The type that saves up for a watch, looks at specs and watches reviews for years and then buys it. They tend to go for watches with a great price/quality ratio and go nuts over a misaligned bezel or scratch on their watch. They also promote their watch wherever they can as the best watch ever!
    4) The Collector: The true collectors, they keep everything they ever bought and have an impressive collection, a widely variation of all sorts of watches.
    They are very knowledgeable and own many expensive watches but like to wear their cheap watches just as much as their expensive ones.
    5) The Flipper: the absolute watch nutjobs. They are quite similar to the collectors only don't place too much emotional value on their watches because they tend to sell it rather sooner than later so never get too attached to a watch. Always want a new watch, and when they have it, they sell it for the next best thing...the flipper is never truly happy. No matter the brand, no matter the cost, it never stays long. They do love watches and are in general very knowledgeable but they can't afford or don't have the need to own dozens of watches at the same time, so frequently sell part of their collection to buy the next one.
    That would be me.
    A typical number 5...a serial flipper.
    6) The Rolex nerd: this type is usually the lower educated type who fell with their nose in some money. They only talk about Rolex and think that people who don't wear a Rolex are poor people....Rolex Rolex Rolex!
    7) The High Horseman:
    This type usually used to be Rolex guys, but evolved in their snobbery and look down on Rolex and every other brand since they found out they're all just low to mid tier brands and there are far more expensive watches out there. Since they found out they love to talk about it. They love pretending they own Lange and Söhne and Pateks and in case they actually own one they walk around with a polish cloth in their pocket. They don't actually wear their watch, their watches wear them.
    8) The hypocrite:
    This type loves their Grand Seiko and think everybody else are fools for buying Swiss watches, because to them Grand Seiko is superior and cheaper and they love Grand Seiko for being "lowkey".
    Not realising by talking non stop about Grand Seiko being better and amplifying how Grand Seiko is much more expensive than a normal Seiko, they also brag...they also seem to forget Grand Seiko is also overpriced, just like every other Swiss brand.
    9) The fashionista:
    The type that think Armani and Chanel watches are something to write home about. Not knowing they just payed 2000 dollar for a watch with a $20 movement.
    10) The Scrooge.
    Last but not least, the Scrooge. The type that is very proud and content with their $10 Casio and always claim a $10 watch tells the time just as good as $10.000 watch. They're very proud at their Jerry Springer'ish wisdom and think the rest of the world went insane by paying over $10 for a watch.
    With that said, back to the lovely Seiko. If I pull the trigger, which I will, this Seiko will be my new next best thing. Love it!!!
    After 30+ years of seeing watches come and go I'm secretly always on the lookout for The one! The never ending search for the perfect watch.
    I'm dying for a stayer which I won't sell...
    Will this be it?
    Anyways....my apologies for my little bookwork. Felt like sharing my vision on watch wearers...for anyone who read this far: Which category are you?

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow thank you for such a great comment a lot of effort went into this. I am loving the 10 types I think I'm a combination of a couple of them I do flip however I do have keepers like my stowa. something I would never get rid of it has stood the test of time it just will never leave the collection I love experiencing tons of watches because I truly get to hone in on what I love. Congrats on your new watches. I actually just bought a two-door black Bay 58 10 hours ago, and I'm still going to poke fun at two-door because it's just fun and I love the brand and their positioning in the market.

    • @MisterMaster4life
      @MisterMaster4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EscapementWatch Haha no problem at all my friend. I never mind talking about watches with fellow watch enthousiasts and glad to hear you enjoyed my little bookwork! Hahaha two-door! That's a good one! Don't mind me using that name in the future! But congrats on your Black bay! Really nice watches aren't they?! Can't really go wrong with them. They nailed the design and personally I have had mine for over 2 months now and believe it or not, it runs +0 seconds in 2 months. It's hands down the most crazy accurate automatic watch I've ever owned. The inhouse MT5612 is from another planet....or maybe I just got a very rare and lucky example..who knows.
      Sometimes it runs a second slow or fast but it somehow evens itself out every day and when I wake up in the morning it's still exact the same time as the atomic clock. Sometimes I wonder if they didn't secretly put a quartz in that two-door😂.
      I have the 41mm S&G and it just sits so perfectly on my wrist...it's a real winner.
      And yet somehow I feel the uncontrollable need to sell it again to have something new in exciting around the wrist.
      The mind of a flipper is a mysterious yet wonderous thing. Used to own a Pelagos as well which I truly adored...yet sold it.
      Either way, Tudor is a great brand! And I bet you'll have a great time with your 58.
      And yeah I understand what you mean when you talk about your Stowa. (Which are super great watches by the way). I always wanted to buy one but never came to it due the lack of water resistance. I need my crowns to be screwed down. They do have the new sport pilot flieguhr but it isn't half as beautiful as the normal flieguhr so that's a pitty.
      But I do get the emotional value some watches may possess. I used to be number 4...the Collector. I had an Omega that was just like your Stowa, a watch I would never sell! Or so thought....it was My first luxury watch. Or actually my third, but my first really cool one....untill I sold it.😂
      After that I never placed any emotional value on watches again. One day I saw all those watches laying around in my house while never actually wearing them...waste of money...and thus I became a flipper with a rule:
      I only allow myself to own 3 expensive watches at the same time!
      Awell, it keeps us from the Street right?!

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha yes it does. I do like to wear my watches so I try to limit it to under 10 sometimes I don't wear my Stowa for 3 months but I love it too much and then when I put it back on the honeymoon begins again and it doesn't leave the wrist for about a month.

    • @adjoshi2423
      @adjoshi2423 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Collector, although my collection is just getting started. My first watch was a fossil from my dad. Then on my 18th birthday I bought myself a tag heuer F1. On my 21st birthday I bought myself a Tag Heuer aquaracer, and then this year I’m 23 and after selling all stock from my business I went and bought myself a tag heuer Carrera. I just saw this seiko and I’ve fallen in love with it. I think this will be my next watch. But I really want a tag heuer Monaco.

    • @flow2tech
      @flow2tech ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MisterMaster4life haha Love that 10 types..You nailed it..#6 is by far the most annoying type and they seem to be all over the forums but I never really run into them in real life..
      Me, I'm the type that searches for the grails that have the heritage but are still somewhat affordable for a guy that has a family and other responsibilities...These Seiko Prospex fit that bill perfectly ..Got an Alpina heritage seastrong compressor , couple Hamilton's, this 62 mas , the mm200 and waiting on that Willard vintage reissue to arrive with textured grey dial....A fun hobby...

  • @markthespark301
    @markthespark301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another nice looking watch from Seiko, however having just got the BB58 myself and owned a number of Seikos previously, the Tudor is on a different level.
    Previously had the 62MAS re-issue SPB051, and also have the SPB153 Willard, so no stranger to the brand. As much as I enjoy my Seikos, there are elements which are obviously designed to keep the cost down, and always found the accuracy to be variable. Nothing wrong with that, but with retail prices in the UK now past £1,000 for some of these models, I'm not sure they represent the good value that they used to.
    As for the Tudor, it feels like it'll last a life time and the time keeping is consistently excellent (currently +1s after 10days!).

  • @hirosinoha5873
    @hirosinoha5873 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like sioicon stap.

  • @vitero5745
    @vitero5745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hahahahaa nice shout out to Adrian

  • @DonPakundo
    @DonPakundo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Didn't have to shi!t on another brand just to show how good this is. You also forgot to add Seiko created the mother of all my pet peeves, misalignment, from the chapter rings, Bezel insert, dial. I don't own a Tudor and I have about 6 Seikos.

    • @landerzone2643
      @landerzone2643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What he said about Tudor is exactly true. Poor mans Rolex that you have to explain and justify to anyone other than watch enthusiasts but is still inordinantly expensive.

    • @simonc765
      @simonc765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@landerzone2643 Never have I mentioned the relationship between my BB58 and Rolex to anyone. The watch is that popular because its design and features are hard to beat at this price-point. Your mindset seems to be entirely “flex” based…

  • @coralsaddiction4598
    @coralsaddiction4598 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought BB58 from a local AD last year. Wore it 6 months and wasn’t all that impressed. Sold it on eBay. Now I’m looking at SPB 147. I don’t think I’d own another Tudor. Omega, Zenith and even B01 based Breitlings are better than Tudor. Tudor BB Chrono uses the B01 movement by the way. So why not go with original Breitling

  • @hzee13
    @hzee13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video as usual 👍

  • @gjigpbfrrsdmy7858
    @gjigpbfrrsdmy7858 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wasn’t Vulcain Cricket the first alarm watch ?

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are correct Vulcain first mechanical alarm, JLC first automatic alarm and Seiko was first quartz alarm.

  • @ahmedhishamdr8485
    @ahmedhishamdr8485 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My only 2 problems with this particular Watch is the time accuracy and the price!

  • @EluciaDeLuteIma
    @EluciaDeLuteIma ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why won't Seiko just make a no date version for their watches?

  • @evh4611
    @evh4611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sold my Tudor Black Bay Heritage eta because i stopped liking wearing a hockey puck on my wrist

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL

    • @sebwrafter
      @sebwrafter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha I agree, way too chunky for a retro designed watch imo

  • @tacohans2262
    @tacohans2262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 149 is so much better looking.

  • @timemeasured9137
    @timemeasured9137 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful watch. I’m thinking this might look even more amazing with a black PVD case!!!

  • @A_Dude_And_His_Watch78
    @A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anyone who buys a Tudor because it's a cheap Rolex bought it for the wrong reason. I bought my BB Heritage because I liked the more vintage design than the modern sub. I even got the 41mm with the thick case and I love it for what it is.

  • @MrFredrictai
    @MrFredrictai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    haha, 2:48 mins of tudor talk holding a Seiko, I thought you put the wrong audio track for this clip....

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahaa yeah i realized that while editing. was gonna cut it all out while editing.

  • @harkatdz
    @harkatdz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want one but with steel bracelet

  • @frankieclifton
    @frankieclifton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It is Chew Dore not Two Door

  • @uesugikaru
    @uesugikaru 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which one to get?

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the Gilt!!!

    • @uesugikaru
      @uesugikaru 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seiko just announced the 55th anniversary limited edition willard x btw.

  • @HarryUnchained
    @HarryUnchained 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dude stop talking about Two Door, we're Seikopaths doesn't care about Two Door. ;)

  • @Ryan.Dennie
    @Ryan.Dennie ปีที่แล้ว

    "I drink water, I talk about watches"...nice play :)

  • @PreeyenMistry
    @PreeyenMistry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the design but Seiko need to wake up with QC, lots of people have poor lume pip placement on these. Thankfully the srp775 scratches my itch for a gilt watch.

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah the lume pip is annoying. but the bezel lines up at least lol

  • @El-AYE-Ra1s3d
    @El-AYE-Ra1s3d ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish they had a black dial

    • @EscapementWatch
      @EscapementWatch  ปีที่แล้ว

      Check spb239 version charcoal black dial

  • @rolexmagazine
    @rolexmagazine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! To clarify, Tudor is not owned by Rolex. Rolex SA and Montres Tudor SA are separate companies both owned by the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation. It’s like saying that Blancpain is owned by Omega (which is obviously false); they are simply part of the same financial holding, the Swatch Group.

  • @AGC828
    @AGC828 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not being a "wath guy (enthusiast)" I alredy have trouble justifying spending more than $4k CAD. A BIG stretch for me to spend around $3500 for a Tag Heuer Aquaracer Solargraph 200 Pro...one watch I do want....or think I do right now...for it's design/looks and the solar charging (yes I know other brands hav them too...am looking at the SNE585 from Seiko too...dunno if I'd buy a Garmin...as the screen might washotu in bright sun0....
    Black Bay 58---odd range...so many models such a huge range in pricing $4-21k CAD ummm...WHY? :)) Forget what special feture the $21k watch had :)) Prob didn't make it worth $21k ...in my mind..

  • @dostoevsky90
    @dostoevsky90 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone pls comment on
    Spb317 vs Spb147

  • @maurseg6588
    @maurseg6588 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use to have the Balck bay with the red bizel,,,,, and nowbody know tudor watches,,,,only the serie in netflix jjajajaj

  • @timemeasured9137
    @timemeasured9137 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love this on a bracelet!

  • @guykoch5484
    @guykoch5484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude that opening segment cracked me up 😂

  • @user-tz8tz8bm6p
    @user-tz8tz8bm6p 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will someone explain to me what a Two Door watch is please? I thought I knew about watches, but have no idea what Two Doors are?

  • @bighands69
    @bighands69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tudor watches has the spirit of Rolex all over them but they are still a tudor.

    • @alexs7758
      @alexs7758 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And rolex is still a rolex .. it’s not like it would ever compare to the Grand Seiko and Credor