A lot of change since then, firstly its been renamed back to Teesside Airport, the trains now only stop on the one platform (it was too expensive to keep the other platform open) but in better news there are now services to London, Cardiff, Southampton, Dublin, Belfast and improved services to Aberdeen & Amsterdam. In summer you can now fly to Majorca, Bulgaria, Isle of Man and Alicante. Also with the new platforms being built at Darlington it will allow up to 8 trains an hour to serve this line so hopefully a new, closer station will also be considered!
The station is now completely closed and the London flights have been cancelled due to not many passengers and it being too expensive to land in London
The International Air Transport Association assigned TEA to the airport in Tela, Honduras. National Rail uses TEA for the Teeside Airport railway station. The IATA code for Durham Tees Valley Airport (formerly Teeside International Airport) is MME.
The Stockton & Darlington was a freight line (it only carried passengers on the opening day), and the Liverpool & Manchester was a passenger line. That's the basic distinction.
The S&D was the first public railway, that is to say anyone could run a train along it unlike the private railways that came before it. It was a bit like a public road and was occasionally used by rail adapted horse drawn coaches (early Pacers). It had no signals; if two trains met, one had to reverse. Whilst the Swansea and Mumbles was the first railway to offer regular scheduled passenger services, these were horse drawn. The L&M was the first railway to offer scheduled steam-hauled passenger services; it was also the first to introduce signalling. As ever you have to define 'first' before you can decide what was the first. The first railways we know of are mine railways depicted in German woodcuts from the fourteenth century.
AndreiTupolev according to the Grace's Guides website, there were no passengers carried between the opening day (27-9-1825) and December of the same year, when a passenger service was introduced. Initially this was horse drawn. It wasn't until sometime in 1833 that they replaced the horses with steam locomotives. So the S&D was the first steam railway, and the L&M the first steam passenger railway. The L&M was built to transport goods and people to and from Manchester and its nearest port, Liverpool.
Yes, the opening day, there's a famous painting (I think by Terence Cuneo, so it may not necessarily be 100% accurate) of all the crowds riding in open wagons. But that was a special occasion, it wasn't like that regularly.
Did you know that this is a DOUBLE parliamentary service? Because it's the only service to call at Teesside Airport, AND the only service (except for the open-access Grand Central) to use that side of the triangular junction between Eaglescliffe and Stockton! (It doesn't actually terminate at Eaglescliffe like Geoff said, it runs through to Hartlepool)
Durham Tees Valley Airport (MME) has two flights to Amsterdam on KLM, Aberdeen has 1-2 on Eastern Airways and then one flight weekly in the summer on a Saturday to Jersey with Flybe and occasionally some charters
This is now updated Durham tees valley now flies to Amsterdam,Aberdeen, Norwich and Humberside also with seasonal Flybe flights to jersey still on the cards and has holiday charters (one rotation) to Verona,Venice,Mederia, Dubrovnick and lapland and are increasing even with TUI's absence with more small tour brands taking advantage, the airport is on the mend, also daily schedule is much nicer with 15 arrivals and 13 departures a day compared to 6 of each per day just last year so its more than doubled . Loganair are the newbies and are very cheap.. so whatever people say about it Durham tees valley is not "dead" its on a slow mend after being wounded by the economical recession
My parents once flew to Florida from Tees Valley, back when it had the Heathrow link it was a bustling airport. When that was removed, the airport has pretty much been in freefall (no pun intended). I believe Air Force One once landed with President Bush, probably less hassle to use a quieter airport than to close Newcastle or Manchester.
The platform signs say this platform for Middlesbrough and Saltburn. Only problem is that the one train a week now runs to Hartlepool so doesn't go to either Boro or Saltburn...
Cornish inventor Richard Trevithick's Pen-y-Darren locomotive built in 1802 ( a high pressure steam engine) converted to run on wheels in 1803, is regarded as the first steam locomotive, on 21 February 1804 it pulled a load of 10 tons of iron and 70 men for a distance of 9.75 miles, from Pen-y-Darren, Merthyr Tydfil to Abercynon in South Wales but due to the fact it ran on cast iron rails that broke under the wait of the train it only ran for a short time,so has been rather overlooked in popular history.Technically not a passenger services by modern standards but it did carry people.
To answer the question at 1:27 : First railway of any sort - Wollaton Waggonway (Nottinghamshire, 1603) First public railway - Surrey Iron Railway (Wandsworth to Croydon, 1803) First railway to carry passengers - Oystermouth Railway (Swansea, 1807) (All the above were horse-drawn) First railway to use steam traction - Middleton Railway (Leeds, 1812 - railway opened in 1758) First public railway to use adhesion-worked steam traction - Stockton & Darlington (1825) First public railway with (a) only steam traction (no horses), (b) stations, (c) timetables, (d) signals - Liverpool & Manchester (1830).
Technically first ever steam hauled railway journey on the was on the Merthyr Tramroad from the Penydarren Ironworks to the basin of the Glamorganshire Canal at Abercynon on the 21 February 1804 using a locomotive built and driven by Richard Trevithick. However, it took four hours and caused so much damage to the track that the experiment was not repeated.
Pilney'd be jealous - there's a footbridge. And there are a lot less loved halts out there as you've shown. Plus lovin' the t-shirt with the East Berlin crossing man. With hat.
Teesside airport used to have lots of flights and bus services but a housing development company bought it with an eye to running it down until it died so they could build houses on it . Its a former RAF airfield and so the runway is very long. But a conservative mayor recently took it back into public ownership and renamed it back to Teesside airport (after a poll) and it started to thrive again. Well, until the pandemic anyway . This video was taken at the airport's darkest hour . Ryanair is even back now !
I once actually went with a friend to Stockton for a week, but even though we are from the Netherlands, we flew from Weeze (Germany) to Leeds-Bradford and took a train to Stockton, because that was much cheaper.
Stockton and Darlington was the first public railway to use steam locomotives, but these were initially for freight only and passenger services were actually horse-drawn until AFTER the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester, which was the first steam passenger service.
stockton and darlington was the very first railway as we know it today. it was a weekly passenger service on a group of freight lines that got put together. the very first freight line was from Hetton colliery to Sunderland docks
I'd wager it's fine for walking or standing... & the warning is likely in hopes of avoiding a row of people standing from stairwell to stairwell watching the traffic pass underneath. If you had a gaggle of Railfans perched there snapping photos, this would be considerably more weight than a few people crossing at a time, even with luggage!
Rows of people? There are only two empty trains going there each week, less than 20 passengers a year and a mile walk to the airport terminal! (now named Durham Tees the Teesside Airport signs remain)
Durham Tees Valley (MME or EGNV) is still owned and operated by Peel Holdings IIRC. Not been there for ages but think that it's survival is very much down to MAFF and oil rig activity plus the few commercial flights which still operate into there. Still recently described to me as 'more of a bog than a toilet' by a Certified Flight Instructor though ...
The Stockton and Darlington was the first public railway, in 1825. But it was single track, and only freight used steam - passenger services used horse drawn coaches. The seal of the railway itself showed a horse drawing a train of small carts! The trains were quite experimental, and early on had reliability issues. As a public railway, often the services weren't run by the S&D themselves - anyone could run a service on the rails. Local inns ran the passenger services for a while. They picked up and set down whereever they liked, as there were no real stations. Steam trains in theory took priority over horse-drawn ones, but often the drivers refused to give way and caused delays or accidents. By contrast, the Liverpool and Manchester opened eight years later in 1833. It had double track all the way. It had stations. It was the first to only use steam trains for power. It was the first to use a signalling system. It was the first to have timetabled services. It was the first to handle the transport of mail. It was the first to run excursion services. It gave us the standard gauge track size. Stockton and Darlington may well be the first public railway that used steam power, but the Liverpool and Manchester had many more firsts. Perhaps more importantly, if All The Stations were being done in 1825 then it would be a very short endeavour, as there were no stations to visit. Therefore I submit that, for the purposes of All The Stations, the Liverpool and Manchester railway must be considered the first railway.
The Stockton and Darlington (like other railways) was originally made conceived to carry freight when it opened. As such, it opened first (1825). The Liverpool and Manchester was the first railway built to carry passengers as well as freight. So there was just as much significance for when both lines opened but the L&M opened second in 1830. What it shows is that railways were already, even in those early days, becoming an area of interest by the general public as well as captains of industry. This is because the railways, unlike the canals, suddenly opened up connection opportunities for previously isolated communities (only closing when the car became popular (the stations that served them anyway)
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It doesnt wait at Eaglescliffe. It goes to Hartlepool and branmceshes off on the GC lines and waits at H'pool for 10 mins before coming back. This service has now been changed and only one train now stops at MME and that is at 12:36 to Hartlepool. #localknowledge
The stockton and Darlington was opened in 1825 and was the first to use steam engines. The Manchester and Liverpool opened in 1830 and was the first to use ONLY steam engines, no horses at all.
I remember when it was Middleton St George. I also flew on a small charter to Brussels for the day, back in the early 1970s. Never got off at the train station, though passed it by a number of times.
When Teesside Airport was RAF Middleton St George, Airmen on leave - my Uncle was one - would get the train back from wherever (likely NE England) and go past the base fence, pull the emergency cord, leap off the train then walk back to their barracks to avoid the apparently massive (and awkward if late back on weekend leave) walk to/through the main gate.
Liverpool & Manchester, first passenger railway, opened in 1830. The Stockton & Darlington was opened in 1825. However, Richard Trevithick constructed the first ever steam railway locomotive in 1804.
By pure coincidence - I'd just watched one of your 'least visited' videos, and was thinking of suggesting DTV station for your list... only to find - here you are !
The S&DR was not the first public railway, it was not the first to be built under an act of Parliament or the first to use steam locomotives. It was the first public railway to have seen a steam powered passenger train but that was a special on the opening day and passenger "trains" for the first few years were horse-drawn coaches operated under licence. What distinguishes the S&DR is that it was the first line to be built with locomotive operation in mind. It marks the moment in history when waggonways stopped being just a way to get coal to the nearest canal or port (perhaps pulled by one of those new-fangled dillys) and became railways- a mode of transport in their own right. That is as good a claim as any to being the first modern railway. It has been acknowledged as such for most of the 190+ years since it opened but recently there appears to have been a concerted effort to dismiss it as just another wagonway. The argument seems to be that it wasn't an inter-city railway with an intensive passenger service so it doesn't count for some reason. In the last few years I have seen Manchester announcing itself as the birthplace of railways while there have been at least three TV "documentaries" that were supposed to be about the early history of railways yet didn't even mention the S&DR which is just fatuous. Yes the S&DRs passenger service was vestigial but at the time even Darlington, far and away the largest town on the route, had only a few thousand inhabitants. There just weren't that many passengers or potential passengers. The fact is both the S&DR and the L&MR are important milestones in the development of railways. Perhaps the S&DR could be thought of as the prototype with the L&MR the first production model. The prototype always comes first though. If anyone's wondering I do live in County Durham (and I'm in the Friends of Darlington Railway Museum at North Road Station) but I was born and raised in the West Midlands and my mother's from Liverpool.
The Manchester to Liverpool line was the first passenger steam line to link two cities in 1826. The Stockton and Darlington line was the first steam passenger line. Opened in 1825
The Stockton & Darlington railway I thought was the railway on which the first passenger train ran. Some claim it to be the first passenger railway but I don't think it had a proper timetable. Also, the only scheduled destinations from Teesside Airport (I refuse to call it Durham Tees Valley!) are Amsterdam (3 times a day) and Aberdeen (2-3 times a day) for offshore workers. I think there's summer flights to places like Jersey, and there's going to be a Norwich service starting later this year.
Manchester to Liverpool had the first operation PASSENGER service. However, Stockport to Darlington was the first operational railway in general. ie freight services
Liverpool & Manchester was all steam hauled from the start in 1830. Stockton & Darlington was coal trains were steam hauled from 1825, but passenger steam hauled from 1833. Hopefully that clears it up for you all.
The train didn't wait at Eaglescliffe, it continued to Hartlepool (which is a different line, Sunday-only, to the timetable you were reading, which is why it 'disappeared')
I used to get a Newcastle to Boro train to work back in the 90s that used to call at teeside airport and Allens west and in al the times I got the train I don't remember seing anyone get on or off at either station!
Now the service gets 1 train a week but only in 1 direction so that Northern could stop maintaining the footbridge so now if you got off you could not take a train back home
Leo L. Norwich has a small airport with a few holiday flights in the summer with TUI as well as regular flights to Amsterdam, Guernsey, Edinburgh and Aberdeen. The Teesside-Norwich flights have ceased.
I remember the facebook live stream. It looks like Stockton and Darlington Railway was indeed the first public railway to use steam. 1825 v Manchester - Liverpool 1829
Geoff and Vicki didn't answer the obvious question: What do you do once you've got off the train? How do you get to the airport? Do they send a car or a shuttle? If not, what is the point of even having a station there?
The Middleton railway in leeds was the first operational railway In the world starting in 1758 being pulled by horses and getting the first successful working steam locomotive in 1812 but it never carried passengers until it was preserved in the 1960s
I get that 'It's just a train' moment with birds. When someone says, look! an (evil, grr), seagull. I will think, It's a herring gull. Which are lovely. What about common gulls, black headed gulls, lesser black-backed gulls, etc. etc. It's in the poem 'The Whitsun Weddings' by Phillip Larkin. Read it if you like travelling by train. It will blow you away.
I wonder if anyone's been unfortunate enough to get off that 12:36 going the other way in error, and then find themselves stranded there for a week!! If they forgot their mobile too, with that phone box not working, they couldn't even call for a taxi!!
Only flights Durham Tees valley gets are Norwich, Aberdeen, Humberside, Jersey and Amsterdam. There were flights to London ages ago operated by BMI, but no more. Ryanair served the airport for a while, but left a few years ago, due to the £6 fee introduced that departing passengers must pay, before going through security. It's because the airport is running at a loss and under threat.
I stayed at the airport hotel in the late 80s / early 90s. It had been the Officer's Mess when MME / TEA had been an RAF station. It was reputedly haunted by the ghost of an airman who was being retrained on jets from propeller driven aircraft. Apparently, he left the runway to taxi down a taxiway but lost control and crashed into the Mess and sadly died. I neither heard nor saw, nor felt anything remotely spooky there, but It was the quietest airport hotel I've ever stayed at!
The ultimate thing to do is start from Darlington, one person drives to Teesside Airport, the other gets the train, and at the station hand the keys over so both people tick off the station.
To be fair to the designer of the Pacer, they had a terrible problem to overcome and instead of having Beeching-like cuts to train numbers, they instead created a bizarre and cheap crossbreed between a bus and a train that bought the British government plenty of time to come up with a more sensible long-term solution. The fact that Parliament left the things in service for so long is a mark of shame on our government. That doesn't change the fact that the person who designed this was very creative. So, Pacers should get pulled out of service ASAP, and be replaced by nice quality trains that the public deserve. But at least one Pacer does deserve to be in a museum.
Somewhat annoyingly, a lot of the train companies apps don't even recognise Teesside Airport as a Station to be able to purchase a ticket from... ! :-( this includes even the local TOCs such as Northern, TPE and Cross Country !!! The East Coast website you can can, and similarly for the trainline.. very strange...!
The Stockton and Darlington opened before the Liverpool and Manchester, BUT only freight trains were steam-hauled at first, passenger trains were horse-drawn. Steam-hauled passenger services began in 1833, after the Liverpool and Manchester opened in 1830. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockton_and_Darlington_Railway en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_and_Manchester_Railway
Teesside airport has a surprising amount of private airplanes land, I know Duncan Bannatyne is a frequent user as is The Powell Brothers, Tom Hardy and some other guy who is a property developer from Wynyard
Nick Johnson Some of the videos are not in sequence. On the case of this station, I think it was also where they shot the one about what to do the weekend of 12th and 13th August.
A lot of change since then, firstly its been renamed back to Teesside Airport, the trains now only stop on the one platform (it was too expensive to keep the other platform open) but in better news there are now services to London, Cardiff, Southampton, Dublin, Belfast and improved services to Aberdeen & Amsterdam. In summer you can now fly to Majorca, Bulgaria, Isle of Man and Alicante. Also with the new platforms being built at Darlington it will allow up to 8 trains an hour to serve this line so hopefully a new, closer station will also be considered!
now this farce of a station has been closed
The station is now completely closed and the London flights have been cancelled due to not many passengers and it being too expensive to land in London
This was as close as the station could get on the line, if it had a bus shuttle then it would('ve?) be much better
The saddest thing is that because you guys have Rover tickets, all your awkward stations have counted for 0 passengers in the annual totals.
Andrew Saffrey I think they more than made up for that with the support they drummed up at Shippea Hill !!
Didn’t they buy special tickets for the awkward stations because of that?
the conductor at the start i see a lot as i travel on TPE daily for uni hes lovely
The International Air Transport Association assigned TEA to the airport in Tela, Honduras. National Rail uses TEA for the Teeside Airport railway station. The IATA code for Durham Tees Valley Airport (formerly Teeside International Airport) is MME.
The Stockton & Darlington was a freight line (it only carried passengers on the opening day), and the Liverpool & Manchester was a passenger line. That's the basic distinction.
And Stockton-Darlington was first as a railway.
The S&D was the first public railway, that is to say anyone could run a train along it unlike the private railways that came before it. It was a bit like a public road and was occasionally used by rail adapted horse drawn coaches (early Pacers). It had no signals; if two trains met, one had to reverse.
Whilst the Swansea and Mumbles was the first railway to offer regular scheduled passenger services, these were horse drawn. The L&M was the first railway to offer scheduled steam-hauled passenger services; it was also the first to introduce signalling.
As ever you have to define 'first' before you can decide what was the first. The first railways we know of are mine railways depicted in German woodcuts from the fourteenth century.
AndreiTupolev according to the Grace's Guides website, there were no passengers carried between the opening day (27-9-1825) and December of the same year, when a passenger service was introduced. Initially this was horse drawn. It wasn't until sometime in 1833 that they replaced the horses with steam locomotives. So the S&D was the first steam railway, and the L&M the first steam passenger railway. The L&M was built to transport goods and people to and from Manchester and its nearest port, Liverpool.
There were around 450-600 passengers on the opening day of the S&DR
Yes, the opening day, there's a famous painting (I think by Terence Cuneo, so it may not necessarily be 100% accurate) of all the crowds riding in open wagons. But that was a special occasion, it wasn't like that regularly.
Did you know that this is a DOUBLE parliamentary service? Because it's the only service to call at Teesside Airport, AND the only service (except for the open-access Grand Central) to use that side of the triangular junction between Eaglescliffe and Stockton!
(It doesn't actually terminate at Eaglescliffe like Geoff said, it runs through to Hartlepool)
Durham Tees Valley Airport (MME) has two flights to Amsterdam on KLM, Aberdeen has 1-2 on Eastern Airways and then one flight weekly in the summer on a Saturday to Jersey with Flybe and occasionally some charters
Aberdeen Gets some love 👍
but plenty of pilot training and fishery protection flights
Newcastle Flyer Agree With You Mate!!
This is now updated Durham tees valley now flies to Amsterdam,Aberdeen, Norwich and Humberside also with seasonal Flybe flights to jersey still on the cards and has holiday charters (one rotation) to Verona,Venice,Mederia, Dubrovnick and lapland and are increasing even with TUI's absence with more small tour brands taking advantage, the airport is on the mend, also daily schedule is much nicer with 15 arrivals and 13 departures a day compared to 6 of each per day just last year so its more than doubled . Loganair are the newbies and are very cheap.. so whatever people say about it Durham tees valley is not "dead" its on a slow mend after being wounded by the economical recession
Scott Hardy I think W!ZZ Air might start flights and I wouldn’t lie by saying Dublin flights may start up again with Stobart Air or Ryanair
My parents once flew to Florida from Tees Valley, back when it had the Heathrow link it was a bustling airport. When that was removed, the airport has pretty much been in freefall (no pun intended). I believe Air Force One once landed with President Bush, probably less hassle to use a quieter airport than to close Newcastle or Manchester.
The platform signs say this platform for Middlesbrough and Saltburn. Only problem is that the one train a week now runs to Hartlepool so doesn't go to either Boro or Saltburn...
"Teeside Airport: Where God stopped trying"
Whole of Teeside
Cornish inventor Richard Trevithick's Pen-y-Darren locomotive built in 1802 ( a high pressure steam engine) converted to run on wheels in 1803, is regarded as the first steam locomotive, on 21 February 1804 it pulled a load of 10 tons of iron and 70 men for a distance of 9.75 miles, from Pen-y-Darren, Merthyr Tydfil to Abercynon in South Wales but due to the fact it ran on cast iron rails that broke under the wait of the train it only ran for a short time,so has been rather overlooked in popular history.Technically not a passenger services by modern standards but it did carry people.
To answer the question at 1:27 :
First railway of any sort - Wollaton Waggonway (Nottinghamshire, 1603)
First public railway - Surrey Iron Railway (Wandsworth to Croydon, 1803)
First railway to carry passengers - Oystermouth Railway (Swansea, 1807)
(All the above were horse-drawn)
First railway to use steam traction - Middleton Railway (Leeds, 1812 - railway opened in 1758)
First public railway to use adhesion-worked steam traction - Stockton & Darlington (1825)
First public railway with (a) only steam traction (no horses), (b) stations, (c) timetables, (d) signals - Liverpool & Manchester (1830).
Technically first ever steam hauled railway journey on the was on the Merthyr Tramroad from the Penydarren Ironworks to the basin of the Glamorganshire Canal at Abercynon on the 21 February 1804 using a locomotive built and driven by Richard Trevithick. However, it took four hours and caused so much damage to the track that the experiment was not repeated.
And this fits in somewhere www.engineering-timelines.com/scripts/engineeringItem.asp?id=1466
First railways of any sort were in use in Europe by the mid-1500's, according to Wiki.
The Middleton Railway was the first *successful* use of steam because, as previously mentioned, Trevithicks engines ran
Pilney'd be jealous - there's a footbridge. And there are a lot less loved halts out there as you've shown.
Plus lovin' the t-shirt with the East Berlin crossing man. With hat.
Teesside airport used to have lots of flights and bus services but a housing development company bought it with an eye to running it down until it died so they could build houses on it . Its a former RAF airfield and so the runway is very long.
But a conservative mayor recently took it back into public ownership and renamed it back to Teesside airport (after a poll) and it started to thrive again. Well, until the pandemic anyway . This video was taken at the airport's darkest hour . Ryanair is even back now !
How could we possibly not have a special episode devoted to TEA?
I once actually went with a friend to Stockton for a week, but even though we are from the Netherlands, we flew from Weeze (Germany) to Leeds-Bradford and took a train to Stockton, because that was much cheaper.
oh Stalybridge, how often have I froze on your platforms thanks to Northern Rail
Stockton and Darlington was the first public railway to use steam locomotives, but these were initially for freight only and passenger services were actually horse-drawn until AFTER the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester, which was the first steam passenger service.
stockton and darlington was the very first railway as we know it today. it was a weekly passenger service on a group of freight lines that got put together. the very first freight line was from Hetton colliery to Sunderland docks
The S&DR was the first public railway to use steam locomotives
Does the weak bridge say no standing on footbridge? What's the point of having a footbridge then??
So you can WALK across it.
You're right BD. To say something provided for public use is 'weak' surely is flouting Health and Safety Rules.
When the airport station has a weak bridge..but you have luggage
I'd wager it's fine for walking or standing... & the warning is likely in hopes of avoiding a row of people standing from stairwell to stairwell watching the traffic pass underneath. If you had a gaggle of Railfans perched there snapping photos, this would be considerably more weight than a few people crossing at a time, even with luggage!
Rows of people? There are only two empty trains going there each week, less than 20 passengers a year and a mile walk to the airport terminal! (now named Durham Tees the Teesside Airport signs remain)
Durham Tees Valley (MME or EGNV) is still owned and operated by Peel Holdings IIRC. Not been there for ages but think that it's survival is very much down to MAFF and oil rig activity plus the few commercial flights which still operate into there. Still recently described to me as 'more of a bog than a toilet' by a Certified Flight Instructor though ...
In the mid 1990s I often used to catch a flight from Newcastle to Gatwick which called into Teeside on the way - very rarely picked anyone up 😊
BusAndTrainUser why would a short flight like that have a stop over
@@FireboyHDGaming hes referring to the train
The Stockton and Darlington was the first public railway, in 1825. But it was single track, and only freight used steam - passenger services used horse drawn coaches. The seal of the railway itself showed a horse drawing a train of small carts! The trains were quite experimental, and early on had reliability issues.
As a public railway, often the services weren't run by the S&D themselves - anyone could run a service on the rails. Local inns ran the passenger services for a while. They picked up and set down whereever they liked, as there were no real stations. Steam trains in theory took priority over horse-drawn ones, but often the drivers refused to give way and caused delays or accidents.
By contrast, the Liverpool and Manchester opened eight years later in 1833. It had double track all the way. It had stations. It was the first to only use steam trains for power. It was the first to use a signalling system. It was the first to have timetabled services. It was the first to handle the transport of mail. It was the first to run excursion services. It gave us the standard gauge track size.
Stockton and Darlington may well be the first public railway that used steam power, but the Liverpool and Manchester had many more firsts. Perhaps more importantly, if All The Stations were being done in 1825 then it would be a very short endeavour, as there were no stations to visit.
Therefore I submit that, for the purposes of All The Stations, the Liverpool and Manchester railway must be considered the first railway.
Teesside airport also sometimes gets flights diverted from Leeds-Bradford Airport when it gets fogged in (which is annoyingly often)
The Stockton and Darlington (like other railways) was originally made conceived to carry freight when it opened. As such, it opened first (1825). The Liverpool and Manchester was the first railway built to carry passengers as well as freight. So there was just as much significance for when both lines opened but the L&M opened second in 1830. What it shows is that railways were already, even in those early days, becoming an area of interest by the general public as well as captains of industry. This is because the railways, unlike the canals, suddenly opened up connection opportunities for previously isolated communities (only closing when the car became popular (the stations that served them anyway)
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It doesnt wait at Eaglescliffe. It goes to Hartlepool and branmceshes off on the GC lines and waits at H'pool for 10 mins before coming back. This service has now been changed and only one train now stops at MME and that is at 12:36 to Hartlepool. #localknowledge
The stockton and Darlington was opened in 1825 and was the first to use steam engines.
The Manchester and Liverpool opened in 1830 and was the first to use ONLY steam engines, no horses at all.
I remember when it was Middleton St George. I also flew on a small charter to Brussels for the day, back in the early 1970s. Never got off at the train station, though passed it by a number of times.
When Teesside Airport was RAF Middleton St George, Airmen on leave - my Uncle was one - would get the train back from wherever (likely NE England) and go past the base fence, pull the emergency cord, leap off the train then walk back to their barracks to avoid the apparently massive (and awkward if late back on weekend leave) walk to/through the main gate.
Liverpool & Manchester, first passenger railway, opened in 1830. The Stockton & Darlington was opened in 1825. However, Richard Trevithick constructed the first ever steam railway locomotive in 1804.
By pure coincidence - I'd just watched one of your 'least visited' videos, and was thinking of suggesting DTV station for your list... only to find - here you are !
The S&DR was not the first public railway, it was not the first to be built under an act of Parliament or the first to use steam locomotives. It was the first public railway to have seen a steam powered passenger train but that was a special on the opening day and passenger "trains" for the first few years were horse-drawn coaches operated under licence. What distinguishes the S&DR is that it was the first line to be built with locomotive operation in mind. It marks the moment in history when waggonways stopped being just a way to get coal to the nearest canal or port (perhaps pulled by one of those new-fangled dillys) and became railways- a mode of transport in their own right. That is as good a claim as any to being the first modern railway.
It has been acknowledged as such for most of the 190+ years since it opened but recently there appears to have been a concerted effort to dismiss it as just another wagonway. The argument seems to be that it wasn't an inter-city railway with an intensive passenger service so it doesn't count for some reason. In the last few years I have seen Manchester announcing itself as the birthplace of railways while there have been at least three TV "documentaries" that were supposed to be about the early history of railways yet didn't even mention the S&DR which is just fatuous. Yes the S&DRs passenger service was vestigial but at the time even Darlington, far and away the largest town on the route, had only a few thousand inhabitants. There just weren't that many passengers or potential passengers.
The fact is both the S&DR and the L&MR are important milestones in the development of railways. Perhaps the S&DR could be thought of as the prototype with the L&MR the first production model. The prototype always comes first though.
If anyone's wondering I do live in County Durham (and I'm in the Friends of Darlington Railway Museum at North Road Station) but I was born and raised in the West Midlands and my mother's from Liverpool.
The Manchester to Liverpool line was the first passenger steam line to link two cities in 1826. The Stockton and Darlington line was the first steam passenger line. Opened in 1825
The Stockton & Darlington railway I thought was the railway on which the first passenger train ran. Some claim it to be the first passenger railway but I don't think it had a proper timetable. Also, the only scheduled destinations from Teesside Airport (I refuse to call it Durham Tees Valley!) are Amsterdam (3 times a day) and Aberdeen (2-3 times a day) for offshore workers. I think there's summer flights to places like Jersey, and there's going to be a Norwich service starting later this year.
Manchester to Liverpool had the first operation PASSENGER service. However, Stockport to Darlington was the first operational railway in general. ie freight services
You can't fly to London just humberside, Aberdeen and Amsterdam and the airports code is MME
Patryk Wieczorek really with loganair?
Patryk Wieczorek cool!
Not sure about Humberside, but there is a flyBE flight to Jersey on a Saturday. Plus other charter destinations from time to time.
Penguin 32 bmi used to fly to Heathrow
s125ish on okay thanks
Vicky's fascination with Pacers is just divine 😅
We miss you Vicki
Liverpool & Manchester was all steam hauled from the start in 1830. Stockton & Darlington was coal trains were steam hauled from 1825, but passenger steam hauled from 1833. Hopefully that clears it up for you all.
I flew out of there once, to Dublin, but it was a good few years back
Hurray DARLINGTON! The best place and station in world! You should have come and seen Tees Cottage Pumping Station (where I work) it’s amazing!
Damn it Geoff, I missed you at Darlington! I would have bought you a tea!
The train didn't wait at Eaglescliffe, it continued to Hartlepool (which is a different line, Sunday-only, to the timetable you were reading, which is why it 'disappeared')
I used to get a Newcastle to Boro train to work back in the 90s that used to call at teeside airport and Allens west and in al the times I got the train I don't remember seing anyone get on or off at either station!
Now the service gets 1 train a week but only in 1 direction so that Northern could stop maintaining the footbridge so now if you got off you could not take a train back home
The airport is now getting more Aberdeen planes and new Norwich flights
Newcastle Flyer not anymore
i was unaware norwich had an airport-
Leo L. Norwich has a small airport with a few holiday flights in the summer with TUI as well as regular flights to Amsterdam, Guernsey, Edinburgh and Aberdeen. The Teesside-Norwich flights have ceased.
Hey Geoff and Vicki, You should come back up again! Do some more train vids up in Teesside.
I remember the facebook live stream. It looks like Stockton and Darlington Railway was indeed the first public railway to use steam. 1825 v Manchester - Liverpool 1829
Geoff and Vicki didn't answer the obvious question: What do you do once you've got off the train? How do you get to the airport? Do they send a car or a shuttle? If not, what is the point of even having a station there?
The Middleton railway in leeds was the first operational railway In the world starting in 1758 being pulled by horses and getting the first successful working steam locomotive in 1812 but it never carried passengers until it was preserved in the 1960s
In 2000 my wife and I began a ‘around the world’ honeymoon from .......... Teeside Airport! Fond memories of what then was a functional airport.
All the Wind Noise
And as a Bostonian, I all of a sudden got really confused for a minute when you said it was a T station.
It doesn't sit at Eaglescliffe. Even the footnote said that it continues to my local station Hartlepool
I get that 'It's just a train' moment with birds. When someone says, look! an (evil, grr), seagull. I will think, It's a herring gull. Which are lovely. What about common gulls, black headed gulls, lesser black-backed gulls, etc. etc. It's in the poem 'The Whitsun Weddings' by Phillip Larkin. Read it if you like travelling by train. It will blow you away.
Now only 6 flights to/from Aberdeen and 3 to/from Amsterdam from TEA each day
Huh the first transpennine guards normally operate the doors from the back cab
In 2020/21 this station only got 2 passengers for an entire year!!!
I wonder if anyone's been unfortunate enough to get off that 12:36 going the other way in error, and then find themselves stranded there for a week!! If they forgot their mobile too, with that phone box not working, they couldn't even call for a taxi!!
Well theres a road next to the station luckily so more likely than not they could just hitchhike or get help at the airport
If they had a couple grand on em they could jet away to Amsterdam or somewhere for a few days
you do not go to Amsterdam and take your own woman.
just walk to the airport and get a taxi from there as surely they have phones even at a small airport
Only flights Durham Tees valley gets are Norwich, Aberdeen, Humberside, Jersey and Amsterdam. There were flights to London ages ago operated by BMI, but no more. Ryanair served the airport for a while, but left a few years ago, due to the £6 fee introduced that departing passengers must pay, before going through security. It's because the airport is running at a loss and under threat.
6 pounds??!!! gosh thats probably more than the ryanair flight itself
I'd love to take a train journey with Geoff Vicky Jen
The bridge is now closed, only one train comes on Sundays....the station has deteriorated. But the airport has improved.
Could say when combined with part of the bridge signage and the CS short code, was erm 'WeakTea' on the menu?? *ducks*
I stayed at the airport hotel in the late 80s / early 90s. It had been the Officer's Mess when MME / TEA had been an RAF station. It was reputedly haunted by the ghost of an airman who was being retrained on jets from propeller driven aircraft. Apparently, he left the runway to taxi down a taxiway but lost control and crashed into the Mess and sadly died. I neither heard nor saw, nor felt anything remotely spooky there, but It was the quietest airport hotel I've ever stayed at!
UPDATE: the footbridge has been removed and the unused platform demolished. I think they are looking to improve the platform that is still open.
Hasn't been a London flight for years.
About the railway question, Manchester to Liverpool was the first Intercity railway
and now teeside airport only gets 1 train a week now
The ultimate thing to do is start from Darlington, one person drives to Teesside Airport, the other gets the train, and at the station hand the keys over so both people tick off the station.
Put a pacer in the national railway Museum
York intend to preserve 142001
Puckoon2002 Didn't know that!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacer_(train)#Pacer_preservation
I didn't know the NRM had a chamber of horrors!
To be fair to the designer of the Pacer, they had a terrible problem to overcome and instead of having Beeching-like cuts to train numbers, they instead created a bizarre and cheap crossbreed between a bus and a train that bought the British government plenty of time to come up with a more sensible long-term solution.
The fact that Parliament left the things in service for so long is a mark of shame on our government.
That doesn't change the fact that the person who designed this was very creative. So, Pacers should get pulled out of service ASAP, and be replaced by nice quality trains that the public deserve. But at least one Pacer does deserve to be in a museum.
it was stockton and darlington
When are you coming to Newcastle?
What will vicki do when all the pacers are gone?
Attractively Unusual (!!) Worth the Effort for us to see
This should have been an episode of Least Used Stations
Controversial opinion time. Sorry guys, but the Swansea & Mumbles (albeit not steam-hauled): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swansea_and_Mumbles_Railway
Somewhat annoyingly, a lot of the train companies apps don't even recognise Teesside Airport as a Station to be able to purchase a ticket from... ! :-( this includes even the local TOCs such as Northern, TPE and Cross Country !!! The East Coast website you can can, and similarly for the trainline.. very strange...!
probably to discourage you from using it!
Are non-matching earrings gorpcore?
The 12:36 at Teeside Airport actually starts at Hartlepool at 12:05 not Eaglescliffe
Transport Glory Teesside, please.
Vicky, you've finally admitted it publicly ... you only love Pacers to wind Geoff up !!!
Have you been to Breich?
The Stockton and Darlington opened before the Liverpool and Manchester, BUT only freight trains were steam-hauled at first, passenger trains were horse-drawn. Steam-hauled passenger services began in 1833, after the Liverpool and Manchester opened in 1830.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockton_and_Darlington_Railway
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_and_Manchester_Railway
Yes, but the S&DR was the first public railway to use steam locomotives.
Anyone else here after TEA became another #ClosedNotClosed station?
That moment when you're going to fly to Durham tees valley in october..........
At 5:17 when Geoff opens the car door I thought it was Matt Lucas driving!
Teesside airport has a surprising amount of private airplanes land, I know Duncan Bannatyne is a frequent user as is The Powell Brothers, Tom Hardy and some other guy who is a property developer from Wynyard
Steve Gibson, Chairman of Middlesbrough FC uses it frequently too.
Liverpool to Manchester was the first
It was Stockton and Darlington
vicky-
the only person on the planet excited about a pacer
His t-shirt is AMPELMANN!!!!!
I can see this being one of those stations that loses its other platform when the line is electrified.
Durham Tees-Valley has no flights to London...
I love Pacers, all of them
They are removing the bridge and one of the platforms so only one side used on sunday
You can't get much more Parliamentary than that. The local bus (Arriva 12 Mon-Sat) doesn't go anywhere near the actual airport.
Correction Teesside Airport gets 2 flights to Amsterdam
You forgot to do the tick!!!
Me drinking a TEA?
the Manchester to Liverpool was the first line built and used for passengers as this line went through Warrington central and still does
What happened to Scotland?
Nick Johnson Some of the videos are not in sequence. On the case of this station, I think it was also where they shot the one about what to do the weekend of 12th and 13th August.
Nick Johnson i
It was still there the last time I checked.
I don't think it's gone anywhere recently
Desperate Mohammedan the World's Strongest Arab I thought he was going to have a dry-run by sinking the Isle of Wight first.