Brilhart and Woodwind Co mouthpieces on Conn tenor sax - But beautiful
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
- Comparing some of my favorite Brilhart mouthpieces and a Woodwind Co. NY Steel Ebonite on a '24 Conn New Wonder tenor sax. Not a comparison like which one is best with the same reed.
I play them with different reed choices for each mouthpiece.
The reed strengths vary a lot! The Brilhart Hard Rubber has an original facing of around .90 and can take a Regal Queen 5 (!)on it. Why it works so well still puzzles me.
While I prefer a D'Addario Jazz Select 2H on the Brilhart Ebolin. With a heavier reed like a 3M or 3H the Ebolin sounds nice and more bold and is closer to the Hard Rubber sound. Yet I prefer the more lighter and snappier tone of the 2H for this mouthpiece.
The original 7* Streamline is one of my easiest playing and most versatile Brilharts I have ever played. I love the thick smooth tone.
The Woodwind Steel Ebonite is a close contender in tone and a very nice vintage Link like player and the huge chamber matches great with the big bore Conn New Wonder. Refaced by Dave Jary. It projects really well.
(0:18) Brilhart Hard Rubber 4* (1940's original facing)- BG ligature - Regal Queen 5 reed
(2:06) Brilhart Ebolin 3 (Carlsbad era) - Sound Palette ligature - DJS 2H reed.
(3:56) Brilhart Streamline 7* (Carlsbad era) - Bonade inverted lig - Vandoren Java 2,5
(5:41) Woodwind Co. NY Steel Ebonite (Dave Jary reface) - Bonade Inverted lig - Regal Queen 3 reed
The tune is the beautiful ballad But Beautiful.
The recording is made with a EV n/d 468 mic straight into the computer and mixed in Garageband. Only some reverb was added.
Wow, you are really, really good. Was looking for a Brilhart Ebolin demonstration, stayed for the wonderful playing.
Thank you very much, Darth Vader! May the Force be with you!
Woodwind Co. for me. Absolutely classic sound.
Fanastic playing as always. I have a Brilhart Special tenor piece that I bought off ebay... was pleased to discover that it had been refaced to .095" and it played perfectly for section work. I found that it lacked a little projection, so I grabbed a jar of window putty and fashioned a VERY modest step baffle to "hot rod" it. Presto! Instantly my favorite piece. Responsive, dark, but can throw sound when I push it.
I´m playing a Conn New Wonder tenor with a Brilhart Tonaline opened to a 9* and it´s amazing!!!
That sounds like a great match indeed. The Tonalins and Ebolins on an old Conn horn can be magic. Wow! a 9* tip for a Brilhart is huge! I would love to hear you play on it.
I happen to have an original 9* Ebolin. No serial nr so I guess is it from the 70's or 80's. However I guestimate the original tip to be just over a .100 . It is a great player despite the fact that opinions are divided on the modern ones.
@@Jazzznbluezzz1 how can I found you to send a video playing this mouthpiece my friend? a phone number or messeger or whatssapp?
Thank you so much for this. I am looking at getting either a Brilhart HR or Streamline/Personaline, not so sure yet, but this is helping. Great playing as always.
Thank you, Dave. I sure hope it helps you decide. The Brilharts work very nice with old Conns. I have been listening to your nice vids as well for a long time. I think you have a great tone already. I often wish I had that tone.
@@Jazzznbluezzz1 Thank you, and I wish I had your playing style. I have gotten into a lot of Lester lately!
I liked the Tonalin the best. Did not care for the Woodwind, it had a stuffy sound. Nice playing BTW!
Thanks for commenting! The Woodwind has the largest chamber of them all. So that makes it sound a bit tubby and it needs more air to get a full tone. Both the Brilhart hard rubber and the Tonalin are my favorites and I use them on and on. I like the clear full tone of the Tonalin Streamline. That said the Streamline models have a bit more focussed and cutting tone than the regular Tonalins. Just for the record.
Excellent
That. Vandoren reed is head and shoulders above the other ones
You are good; so good I truly believe that you are right up there with the greats of yesteryear. Wonderful understanding of harmony to create such pretty melodic lines. And as for your tone.......but beautiful.
Thank you so much, Warren!
Actually for me it's between the Brilhart HR and the Woodwind Co. They are totally different, but those are the best for me.
Thanks a lot for taking time to listen to this and your nice comments. I have to admit that I agree with your opinion on the Brilhart HR and the Woodwind. In fact I am mostly playing the BHR lately for almost everything I play. I found that with a #4 reed it is as versatile as I want it to be without ever loosing that thick core and velvety edge. While I like the Streamline for its versatility too like I mentioned above I now prefer the Hard Rubber. The tone is richer and seems to have more character in it.
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Hello, I have a Brilhart Carlsbad alto, it has slightly rounded walls inside the chamber. I like this mouthpiece. Tell me, do you have an example of a Brilhart sound with a camera without walls, I wonder how it sounds? I like the Brilhart sound concept much more than modern mouthpieces. Tell me, does the Brilhart ligature make the sound better or is it marketing? I saw that they sell Echo ligature. Thanks.
Hello, I take it that you have an Ebolin or Tonalin mouthpiece? But correct me if I am wrong. Both Ebolins and Tonalins have fairly straight sidewalls with a very slight roundness. The Great Neck era versions had straight sidewalls however slightly more rounded hence a mre darker tone. I have an example of that also. The Hard Rubber version like the first one you hear in the vid has a rounded chamber and scooped out side walls much like the old Otto Links. I am not sure if that is what you mean? Then there are the plastic and Hard Rubber Persobaline models of which the hard rubber also have rounded chambers and scooped out side walls.
I do not have experience with the vintage Brilhart ligatures with the plastic plastic pressure plates. Except for the more common Brilhart brass ligatures both straight as inverted that work well. Not better or worse. The Echo Brass replica gets good reviews so I am curious as well. But I can't help you with that. They look great though.
The one I have on the Ebolin in the vid is a Sound Palette replica that is very well made and works great. I admit it does make difference indeed in a good way. However the tonal differences are small as they are with most other ligatures. It is not like an instant total Nirvana. You'll need a good ear to tell the differences though.
The BG lig I have on the Brilhart Hard Rubber is one of the bunch that to my ears does make a real difference.
I hope this helps.
@@Jazzznbluezzz1 I have Brilhart ebolin carlsbad 0.74. Apparently Arnold Brilhart had some special understanding of sound. This mouthpiece is really good. Slightly round side walls. Yes, I tried the BG ligature, it is interesting. But it is expensive and it is better to buy an Echo ligature. Maybe I'll buy another Brilhart mouthpiece for more insight. Thanks for the reply.
Great Sound and playing!
Like them all, but Brilhart HR most
Thanks!
A master
The same tune with an Otto Link Tone Master:
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they all sound the same the difference is almost nil is to want to hear what is not heard
Thanks for listening and commenting. I agree that they all could do the job fine. However I do hear significant differences although being subtle. But I would not hesitate to take either one of them to a gig (whenever that will be possible again in the future).
Fanastic playing as always. I have a Brilhart Special tenor piece that I bought off ebay... was pleased to discover that it had been refaced to .095" and it played perfectly for section work. I found that it lacked a little projection, so I grabbed a jar of window putty and fashioned a VERY modest step baffle to "hot rod" it. Presto! Instantly my favorite piece. Responsive, dark, but can throw sound when I push it.