Warcraft Reforged Night Elf Tier List | Who is S Tier?

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  • @WTiiWarcraft
    @WTiiWarcraft  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    WTiiWarcraft brings you Night Elf Tier List for Warcraft Reforged
    tiermaker.com/list/video-games/warcraft-reforged-night-elf-tier-list-213381/321207
    Click on "Create This Tier List" to get ranking!
    You can check the Warcraft Reforged Night Elf Pictures here imgur.com/a/d88Xuw4

    • @IHateGoogleHandles
      @IHateGoogleHandles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do u think they will fix everything in one month?
      The launch date is december 31 does it?

    • @duyson5632
      @duyson5632 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Next time you can watch the comparison video, so you can show exactly what's the right way to put things instead of describe things with words which make it sound subjective 😙😙😙

  • @youndse4162
    @youndse4162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Wisp ingame as a ghost is perfect. Just remove the head visible thing

  • @sanur1124
    @sanur1124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Only thing I didn't agree with wtii was Demon Hunter Metamorphosis. Wtii said hand needs to me normal but that will destroy her more no? I mean when in Metamorphosis they become ranged and shoot fel magic from hands. If it's normal arm that would totally destroy the point

  • @nixonstrmelj7092
    @nixonstrmelj7092 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That Glaive thrower portrait looks like a wooden megatron

  • @janlancos370
    @janlancos370 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I think the portraits are now objectively the worst part. They look low-res and most of the characters have really weird expressions. Needs a complete rework, IMO, because at the moment the original versions are actually superior.

    • @AwayWithYouVileBeggar
      @AwayWithYouVileBeggar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're telling me you don't love Meth Head Jaina?
      Jokes aside they should've used the HOTS models as reference because I'm pretty sure they use the same engine. If I'm wrong then they should've used the HOTS models as reference at least for the hero portraits because some of the ones I saw are just horrific.

    • @randjan8592
      @randjan8592 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AwayWithYouVileBeggar HotS is Starcraft 2 engine, but still, I believe they could have somehow just converted the format. In my opinion, HotS really hits how Warcraft would look with more polygons. Just look at Illidan, Thrall or Kael. Kael looks almost exactly the same, except maybe his cloak is bigger. At the moment, I think there's just 1 character I like more in reforged than HotS and that's Maiev, because they did copy her WC3 look and not her WoW look.

    • @AwayWithYouVileBeggar
      @AwayWithYouVileBeggar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randjan8592 Yeah Maiev is bloody awesome same with her counterpart in skirmish/mp.

  • @Zamoxino
    @Zamoxino 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    for me wisp would be 10/10 without the head. with head its 5/10 and i dont care if it will be visible as unit. head on it just seems dumb :D

  • @danielk3084
    @danielk3084 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Archer I don't mind the posture so much, but I get what you are saying. The druid of the claw kinda looks like someone just punched him in the gut, and he is hunched over, makes my back hurt just looking at it. Love the Warden, and ancient of lore, and I personally really like the starry looking avatar. Leaves don't bother me on the ancients, but have not actually played NE in reforged yet. I kinda think the tattoos on the demon Hunters should be team color, at least on metamorphosis, the only other team color is the hero glow. To me about the only thing that stands out, or what I see first, is that really bright green.

  • @coe1282
    @coe1282 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is the reforged content we NEED. I love it and demand more!

  • @reverse3052
    @reverse3052 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos relay make my day

  • @romanjurcak138
    @romanjurcak138 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i actually extremely love the way the wisp is looking ingame , just it isnt somehow looking the same way like in the portrait

  • @FastFoodVicar
    @FastFoodVicar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like theyve taken in the feedback for team colours as they finished the nightelves. Ive not seen all models but so far so good

    • @randjan8592
      @randjan8592 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      what did they change?

    • @FastFoodVicar
      @FastFoodVicar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randjan8592 They didnt change anything, but I feel like they took feedback from the other races as they finished these ones. Basically the other races don't have as much bright visible colour

  • @QuestionableObject
    @QuestionableObject 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All of the icons are just updated versions of the original icons so I don't really feel that the "This doesn't tell me this is an archer" criticism is 100% valid lol

  • @adamk8073
    @adamk8073 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Campaign Maiev also gets her own Avatar of Vengeance model!

  • @TheTCKreen
    @TheTCKreen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting what you said about the Chimera's lankiness. I was actually persuaded by MinuteEarth's video on "The Best Dragon (According to Science)" that dragons should be much lankier than we naturally expect - and in my mind, that also applies for the Chimera.
    (Also, quick question - how do the Dryad and Keeper of the Grove compare side by side? I wonder if the KotG is longer so it's slightly easier to distinguish them?)

  • @АндрейМилошевич
    @АндрейМилошевич 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now waiting Tier list Orc, Human and UD

  • @Xiiao21
    @Xiiao21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Take a shot every time wtii says he wants something to be more cute

  • @ryanmcfall1127
    @ryanmcfall1127 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to see a unit power level tier list (like how good the unit is for it's cost)

  • @kingbigyoshi4685
    @kingbigyoshi4685 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah yes, the three brothers, malfurion, illidan and Barry stormrage. Also rip panda blades

  • @1212Deusexmachina
    @1212Deusexmachina 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What i m worried about is the shadowmelted troops. They look ethereal

  • @IowaHawks023
    @IowaHawks023 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Compared to everything else, owl a tier above. Loooove the owl

  • @johnathonlillecrapp6480
    @johnathonlillecrapp6480 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd like you to rank them based on stats and use

  • @PoutyBun
    @PoutyBun 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everything looks so busy and muddled up with horrendous amounts of detail, ontop of there no longer being a proper, easily-readable art direction to match the critically needed distinction between units and gameplay - this all wraps up into making the new artstyle into looking unfocused, ill-refined and all over the place; likely putting no extra thought into matching the visuals with actual gameplay, beyond them saying "Hey, uprez everything."
    I feel as the crazy proportions units were given in the previous iteration of the artstyle, conveyed clearly what to expect from that unit. (Ogres, Tauren and TC being big, bulky, tanky units that take up lots of space. Smaller proportioned units taking up less space and being less cumbersome to control, etc.)
    It just feels like they didn't take the gameplay into account when making these uprezzed, and sometimes unnecessarily redesigned additions to units.

  • @Bellpepper402
    @Bellpepper402 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think the new model looks like Brightwing from Heroes of the Storm at all. In fact, I think Brightwing is a great example of a cute faerie dragon with a big ol pattable forehead. The ones in reforged are fine but I think the more '"realistic''" take make them less interesting

    • @kesiazezebajki1982
      @kesiazezebajki1982 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      When you take away the wings, tail, those two feathers on the head, colour of the skin and the general body shape including the head, yeah, it doesn't look like it at all.

  • @eafesaf6934
    @eafesaf6934 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do tierlist for all races.

  • @flameseeker4058
    @flameseeker4058 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do undead next please

  • @NBA1Teemo1Mascot
    @NBA1Teemo1Mascot 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any reason why Demon Hunter got a female version? Why not Keeper of the Grove or male versions for the Warden and the PotM? I'm slightly confused ...

  • @denismorosanu855
    @denismorosanu855 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man,
    The old icons dont tell u which unit is either
    I remember when i started playing the game and i didnt know what am i supposed to get from those icons..
    Cuz except from some examples (shaman, necromancer, units that have something representative on their heads) u can't tell that well. I guess we just have to get used to them as we did to the old ones.

  • @Tichondrius-
    @Tichondrius- 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh hey it is a living tree *WHY THERE ARE SO MUCH LEAVES REEE*

  • @DerFuchsJr
    @DerFuchsJr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When we all thought blizzard actually wouldnt fuck this up lol

  • @billko4342
    @billko4342 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    All we need is LOIN CLOTH skin

  • @Kacpa2
    @Kacpa2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Problem with bears is that they gave them giant butts, and changed the posture, originals are really uprightish with small rear, while new ones lean fowards almost being opposite of original's posture. And with everything else, horrible animations that dont even try to be alike originals. Really generic movement on everything while originals have really unique standing out movement, and they have no excuse for any of that because War3hd remakes from Starcraft 2 have exacly the same motion as classic models

    • @romanjurcak138
      @romanjurcak138 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      id say its actually pretty good they are changing things like that , where is it written that they should be exactly the same ? some things might not be that good from the older version , and might be done better in the new version tho

  • @MalcomMalediction
    @MalcomMalediction 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    wisp is by far my least favourite design lol eh i dont like the head flying...everything else seems good

  • @iHaveContrl
    @iHaveContrl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the game even finish? It doesn't look like it is finish though.

  • @kingbigyoshi4685
    @kingbigyoshi4685 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The dryads portrait is horrible, but the icon is excellent

    • @kingbigyoshi4685
      @kingbigyoshi4685 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Druid of the talon in crow form blends in too much with the map, I agree for the D tier

    • @kingbigyoshi4685
      @kingbigyoshi4685 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Teal is kind of the default color, hence the default teal armor on hyppogryph. Speaking of hyppogryphs, I really am not feeling the new parrot style. Too colorful, will be harder to differentiate ingame

    • @kingbigyoshi4685
      @kingbigyoshi4685 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I preferred the OG ancient of wonders model by a long shot

    • @kingbigyoshi4685
      @kingbigyoshi4685 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also protector

  • @田中花子-n1f
    @田中花子-n1f 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wisp,peon,acolyte and peasant will get S+ from me

    • @etheron1235
      @etheron1235 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i agree except for new wisp, it's creepy

  • @jesuslikeslsdnwiid
    @jesuslikeslsdnwiid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    do the other races :)

  • @newfacepaula
    @newfacepaula 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    kinda missed the Tree of Ages and Eternity...

    • @WTiiWarcraft
      @WTiiWarcraft  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are basically identical except for some glowing butterflies & more cracks in the face

  • @pendalfus123
    @pendalfus123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    uncle sam wants this

  • @wowddo
    @wowddo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thought it was gonna be from a gameplay perspective lol

    • @WTiiWarcraft
      @WTiiWarcraft  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's doable but I'm concentrating on the looks currently

    • @normanho5631
      @normanho5631 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean reforged's biggest changes are about how the new models look like currently

  • @Jroushia47
    @Jroushia47 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make more please

  • @raynmanshorts9275
    @raynmanshorts9275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "Just wear the loincloth! Take the rest off!"
    Sorry. This isn't that kind of game.

    • @randjan8592
      @randjan8592 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      not anymore...but it used to be, kinda

  • @salottin
    @salottin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't like the "HARD" wings. You wouldn't be pouring strength into stiffening them if you weren't flying

  • @Tichondrius-
    @Tichondrius- 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It seems that you are nostalgic too much (pidaras koroche). Look at Demon Hunters demon form in WoW and say again "oh Illidan is looking too demonic to meee". Like what?

  • @adamkatz6532
    @adamkatz6532 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    LONGEST POST/RANT OF ALL TIME?
    THE HEART OF THE PROBLEM. yes there is a problem.
    honestly most of the figures are intended to look cool and self sufficient in and of themselves..
    let me explain...
    take the female demon hunter... who can't shadow meld.. when only female night elves were supposed to have that ability.
    the developers aren't thinking deeply about what made the original models so clever and compelling...
    this isn't my soapbox but.... i will address it...
    she can't shadow-meld because the intention behind her character is to safeguard blizzard from gender poltics. frankly.
    there... someone had to say it.
    Feel free to quote me....
    which is remarkable because the new figurines are deliberately gratuitously sexualized.... again... feel free to quote me.
    my point:
    if every unit is a "cool" spectacle it betrays what made the original so aesthetic and tasteful... which was adherence to the nerdy fantasy/mythical artistry... such as the japanese and tribal theme behind the orcs... see Blademaster and orc towers as a reference, or the tauren cheiften and witch doctors respectively.... very cool reach... japan meets orcs meets tribalism... tasteful.. thoughtful.
    every race had intelligent points and tasteful congruency.... and not every unit was rounded at the edges... if you chose rifles you were choosing an old man with an outmoded-musket... old men hobble and spit and tire out... they aren't cool... so the rifles were compelling because it was implied that they were experienced worn-out veterans... that was the component I enjoyed mot about the tasteful artistry behind the game.... the flaws inherent in the nature of some characters, divorcing the game from an industry of impressing tasteless and explosion-seeking 15 year old lemmings. a higher calling was so evident in their thoughtfulness. no offence to anyone I am referring to...
    some raging examples of bad decision-making?
    I think the summon, the elemental, sums up all that is wrong with some of the units within reforged (not all of the new units are in terrible taste as i'll mention later on...)... It's sleek... it's immaculate... it looks like a decal on a race-car... nothing about it is a good idea. it would safely be inserted into a screwball sci fi movie such as.... galaxy quest... where it was, in fact, effectively already created as comic relief.. reference scene with monk where he says.. "it's the simple things in life you treasure"
    Clearly the warden was modelled after a beetle in the original... see the pincers? it was so interesting and deliberate and unique and aesthetic.
    clearly the ancients were intended to be older than time, and very slow speaking and moving... not intended to have a potted cute walking smiling tree motif...
    clearly the ogres were intended to look PRIMARILY stupid and lumbering... not armored and menacing.. no longer fat and clumsy?.. bad taste.
    As promised...
    example of good taste in action:
    the hippogryphs... they took a risk on the hippos... they look like indiginous alaskan salmon art or like persian mythology... fantastic job there. although I think the christmas-reindeer antlers looked more convincing as weapons and gave the old hippos character too...
    but look at the thought that went into the new hippos.... it's self-evident in my opinion, someone smart had a good idea with them..
    the old game was smart.. so i miss that.
    kind regs,

    • @randjan8592
      @randjan8592 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I kinda agree with most of what you said. It's not that I ever thought about it, but I definitely see the original and like it more than reforged, for personality and for gameplay. Most of the old units look clean and when you have a bunch of them in a big army, you can see what's going on.
      "new figurines are deliberately gratuitously sexualized" You meant models? I was a bit confused when you said "figurines", it's like real-life figurines that they sell? I am not sure what do you mean by this. You mean everyone is sexualized? Both males and females on all races?
      I think you are going too far to say Warden is a beetle, but okay, artists work in strange ways and old blizzard artists were free to doodle and make whatever they wanted.
      I like the new hero warden and the Maiev warden, that's the 1 thing I hope they don't change. I don't see a way to improve them without messing something up. It's just that some of these melee heroes look weaker and smaller than the campaign characters. The exact same goes for the blood mage, whom I like less, because I think it's really a blood elf thing to be fancy. The melee map blood mage has a way smaller cloak, which is just on his back, but not on his sides, like Kael's.
      Fat and clumsy ogres comment really reminds me of the first time I played the founding of durotar. In the last mission, when you finally get ogres in your army, I feel like I have "completed" the horde, by getting the fat and clumsy characters in, since we already had menacing and powerful grunts and taurens.
      What would you call an elemental in a sci-fi game? xD
      I am not sure about the hippogryphs. I feel like he's a peacock, or some carnival animal, shiny and colorful, with giant decorative antlers, like he's trying to attract females or something.
      Sadly, "times change", I guess? This is what they made today...I don't know how much of the game can they improve at this point. This is what Blizzard has become. I gave them the money, I will use it for some fun custom games, I will play the campaign, collect achievements, but I might not want to play melee. Also, if I can't play single player without an internet connection, that is just another minus from me. It makes me wonder how did they make HotS. In my opinion, most HotS heroes look like what warcraft should be in high res. Just look at Illidan "the betrayer" skin with the panda blades, it's awesome! It's exactly the same as wc3, except it has feet and more polygons!
      I must finish by saying that I would not use the word "taste". I think thousands of years ago, some smartass people said "tastes are not up to discussion". But, I still think there's something wrong here, the way things look, they can look "wrong", because it's a remaster. We have something to look behind and say "the old thing was better". If it was a new game, like Overwatch, we would not have anything before it to compare it to.
      Lastly, try not to take this personally, but, as Sheep mentioned, you don't have to use ellipsis all the damn time. There are commas as well, they are a part of many European languages. I guess you are trying to paint a picture with your text, but still, commas are a thing.

    • @adamkatz6532
      @adamkatz6532 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@randjan8592 somewhat obviously i am deliberately not using grammar the way that it was intended. thankfully this is youtube and I am in great company in that respect, because I consider the rules of grammar cumbersome and useful only in contexts wherein someone needs to demonstrate an ability to think critically. if you understood what I was saying I am happy, and I am confident that you did because I appreciate that you understood my ogre comment.
      I use the word "taste" because I think that there are actual tiers of quality in opinion. I do. Some people don't, I do.
      totally agree with you about the current warden, I think she looks great, as does the tauren chieften.
      she obviously wasn't an ACTUAL beetle.. but the pincers and insectile covering of her face were reminiscent of a beetle... which made her agile character all the more tasteful and enjoyable to look at. like a character from samurai jack.
      when i talk about gratuitously sexualized characters I am obviously referring to every female hero... which invariably have XXX war-time bra sizes. Which is fine.. just internall contradictory, because creating a female demon hunter is an attempt to create prophylaxis for the (some would say) misogynist-esque comedic relief voicings seen on sorcs and dryads (when you click them enough).
      I do prefer the old hippos... I am not going to lie...

    • @connormac4401
      @connormac4401 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adamkatz6532 they are actually much less sexualized... Evidently wearing more clothes/armor than their low-poly counterparts (I dont want to get into the details...).
      You are too quick to jump on the political side of things. They make female version of DH, DK because they are classes exist in WoW where your characters can be either M or F. If they really want to go full PC they could've added female archmage, female paladins etc.
      Also regarding to the shadowmeld part, it is not that nelf women are capable of shadowmeld. It is only for all nelves that worship Elune can shadowmeld, which is a coincidence that during the third war all men are either druids or DH so they dont get to shadowmeld. Same goes for the female DH, she doesnt believe Elune so she cant shadowmeld

    • @adamkatz6532
      @adamkatz6532 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@connormac4401 interesting, hope youre right.
      I actually do think they're sexualized, not just large breasted and lacking clothes.... they could have easily gone the way they did with the dryads and made them amazon-esque... would have been more interesting and immersive imo.
      having said so the female versions in WOW are not additive in my opinion... just make additional female heroes if you like.. don't replace existing characters.. (although I would ideally like to only make characters female when the character works better as a female aesthetically). making female versions of characters is easy and detracts from the aesthetic.
      i stand corrected about shadowmeld. I am not actually into the lore so much as the aesthetic and the eSport, but that solves that problem.

  • @reqckvvvjrf42
    @reqckvvvjrf42 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont get why the tree of life have to look so derpy, am i the only one who feels this way?

  • @Genata339
    @Genata339 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dryad's eyes are so derpy

  • @TheDabetheman
    @TheDabetheman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you really not notice how you were more critical about the female models than the males? The only female model you liked was the one not showing skin? You’re internalized misogyny is blatantly obvious.

    • @connormac4401
      @connormac4401 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The hunched archer just suck. The Hippo rider's problem comes from the Hippo not the archer and the Spirit of Vengeance is clearly unfinished. The rest of the females are all B and above. The only reason he favored Male DH way more than Female is because its Illidan. GTFO with ur feminist bullshit

  • @salottin
    @salottin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The portraits are HORRENDOUS