Joe, I’m Judy a solo rv’r starting in December do you think this would work on a 13500 domestic with a 2000 generator I don’t have a lot of money for add ons
It’s so fun to discover amazing RV tools and products that truly make RV life better (and give more freedom)! Way to be a detective John and the Soft Start RV system seems like a winner.
Just ordered two, can't wait to install them on our 2020 GD 310!! Only weird part was it showed $529.00 on site with discount, but charged $538.00, not sure why the $9 difference but not worrying about it! We've avoided 30 amp hookups just for the reasons you stated, now we won't be worrying about it!
Thank you for the support Robert! We love ours 👍 I would ask for clarification on billing. Tell them you purchased with RV Odd Squad and I’m sure they’ll make it right if there was a mistake. Let us know please. Hoping that we bump into you Guys out here 👍😊
I installed a Micro Air Easy Start last year. These types of devices are a God send to rv'ers. Ran my 15000 btu air on 2200 watt Honda with no problems.
Already have one and like you I had to drag out my 2000 watt Honda generator and try it out. It was quite amazing the difference it made. Thanks for all you do and the great videos. Stay cool.
I never leave a comment but I truly appreciate your honest review. I just decided to purchase one based on your awesome review. Hopefully tech support will be there for me as well. Thank you both so much.
You are going to love them Barbara :) Wishing had found ours a year ago. We would have saved a ton of money and headaches. Thank you for supporting our Channel
Soft starts work. We use them to start giant 150hp electric motors at the plant where I work (electrician). They greatly extend the life of the motor and mechanical assemblies because it starts... soft, rather than abruptly. I see no reason why they wouldn't be equally effective starting an RV air conditioner 👍
Not sure if my newer Class A comes with these already installed but I can use both of ours at the same time on a 30 amp breaker. The one thing you will see is that the plugs get hot and over time the plug will burn out. I am a retired Master Electrician. My old class A wouldn't run both on a 30 Amp.
Interesting. I just put up Reflectix in all my windows last weekend. Still trying to get my AC to stop constantly running. The power bill jumped 20 dollars last month. I know it's only getting hotter. Like this little gadget. Maybe something to check out. I'm terrified as well of electricity and LP gas. Not my things. Seems pretty easy to install. Having someone to walk you through it in 8 minutes wow! Thanks for sharing - Bloggin Brandi
Two 15,000 BTU/h (2.5 ton) not that much actually. If they are on 220, should be less than 30 amps, if they are 115v, then more. (The voltage determines the amperage.) Soft start devices (not new to the air conditioning industry). They give the motor winding's a bit of a torque boost. And yes, they will make the motors last a bit longer, (less harm to the winding's with the boost.) We use these in home air conditioners all the time. (I am an a/c contractor) Good choice buddy! Never thought of using them on my RV a/c unit. Gonna do it this week.
@@johnhershey4010 That's interesting. I never checked. Generally one horsepower requires 12 amps at 115v. so these would be rated at 2.5 horsepower. One unit would probably actually draw less than the expected, maybe 21 - 25 amps at 115v. I'm going to check my unit and see. John and Mercedes should check using a amp probe just to see how close to the 30 amps their getting. (Hotter days draw more current than cooler days.)
The cooling capacity of a Coleman Mach 15 unit is 15,000 BTU/1.25 tons. These are single phase 115V appliances, consuming a hefty 14.8A/1,702W while operating. For reference, microwaves are typically 1,100W, and blow dryers are between usually 1,000W and 1,500W. The issue is that these units require upwards of 60A to start. The LRA, or locked rotor amperage, rating for these units is 61A! (Not all of this comes from supplied power. Otherwise, starting on 50A service would prove problematic at best.) Soft starters significantly reduce the in-rush current from the supply. This is what makes it possible to start the unit on 30A or lower service. From experience, I'd estimate that peak current at start-up is 20A or less with the soft start installed. So, soft starters minimize tripping circuit breakers and enable the use of air conditioning on low current supplies (30A and possibly 20A or 15A depending on myriad factors, such as generator surge capacity, etc.). As far as the A/C units themselves, optimized starting current delivery greatly reduces starting time. This, in turn, reduces the amount of time that electrical components such as wiring, circuit boards and motor windings are subjected to maximum current, thereby extending the life of the unit. I've installed soft starts on the central air conditioning units of most of my customers. To my knowledge, all are still operating, and that with some of these units pronounced as being on their last leg by companies looking for system replacement revenue. Needless to say, I'm a big proponent!
@@johnlane9432 One horsepower = 746 watts (6.2A @ 120Vac nominal) The load at start-up determines peak start-up current (LRA, or locked rotor amps, for air conditioners), so current draw at start-up varies widely. The Coleman Mach 15 units that the _RV Odd Couple_ are running consume 14.8A while operating. So, almost 30A with both operating simulateously...no matter the temperature. The total energy consumption (kWh) would be higher for hotter days as the units would cycle more frequently to maintain the set temperature. A useful exercise when installing soft starts is to record start-up current using a clamping amp meter on one leg of the supply (line for these single phase 115V units). Measuring before and after installation quantifies the effect of the particular soft start module.
You two are so funny. The end clip should have been the opener too. So funny. I love the the watchdog from another video. So you know I gotta have this too. Thanks again Happy Trails. “ you gotta look wet”. 😂 hehehe
Thank you John & Mercedes for this very informative video. With the honesty of your product review and awesome discount code, my wife agreed to the purchase of the Soft Start RV system. Now when we moochdock from my sisters house, we can run the AC without worrying about it. Keep up the great work and stay safe. Best regards, the Lara Family.
You're out of uniform, John!! Thanks for reviewing this....definitely going to check it out. I'm guessing since it draws less power, then your generator fuel consumption will be less as well. Did you happen to hook it up to a Kill-A-Watt plug to see what it was drawing before and after the SoftStart install? Hope all is well. I'm playing catch-up on your videos. Take care!
Yo Mike! Good to know your ok 👍 Great product! Didn’t test it but I watched them test it on other YT videos. Draws a minimum of 50% less amps. They say up to 70% but I doubt it. Take care Mike
When the temperature gets above 90F you have to question if you are comfortable to be outside. Not much fun at those temperatures regardless of humidity. - go north my friends. Some suggest go to elevation, but that means less oxygen and being miserable a different way.
Yet another powerful video! John, I haven’t seen you that excited in a long time! You and Mercedes are so enthusiastic about this it’s got to be the next best thing to sliced bread. We have two ACs but one is a 15 amp and one is a 13 amp. We realized that if we were going to do any camping in our home state (Texas) we had to have two ACs. You know our situation but I am going to take a look at this anyway because it does open many more opportunities in terms of RV Parks and I have been brainstorming about how we can still use our fifth wheel. I do have one question and it’s probably one that most people would already know but if you end up parking your RV long-term where you have to pay for your own electricity are you saying that this would cut down on that bill because you’re using a lesser amp to plug-in? I loved seeing little Sagey pop in and out of the video. Have a good week guys, I sure appreciate you!
Hey guys!!! Did John get a stain on the old shirt? Did he just happen to get a new one? What gives? You're out of uniform soldier... I do believe that I'm going to get a pair of these. I like to run my generator but I really need this to plug in and run the AC units. I take if from the video that you think the cost is worth it for the price. I would like to do a video about this as well. So, maybe I will get this and add to my generator series. Thanks for the recommendation. Pat
RV Odd Couple thank you. We purchased two of these several weeks ago. Still haven’t installed them though. Also recommended to some friends that purchased them as well.
RV Odd Couple: Hey, thanks for the great video. I do have a Sandpiper 381RBOK 2017. I was wonder with your champion generator if you can run both ac with the fridge at the same time ? Is there a difference between your product and micro air easy start ? Wich one take lower amps ? Greetings.
I use a Goal Zero1250 solar generator..no gas or diesel and is kept indoors (solar panels outside on tripod)..this small generator comes with a dolly and fits anywhere. plug it in to any wall socket and it stores the power till you need it. on a single charge i power my home for at least 4 days before needing solar panels. check it out ar goalzero.com.
Yeah I am 100 miles in the middle of nowhere . No service of any kind . But dam it I better have my 50 amps so I can build this no place . Gotta have it . Funny
John, I'm a lot like you in that I'm very fair (I'm a redhead with green eyes) and I've also had heat stroke twice (once very badly). It is not fun and had my much darker husband not been ok and there to get me help, I shutter to think what would have happened. (Glad most of our kids are darker like him, lol.) BTW, have they invented a "soft start" to help us get out of bed in the morning? LOL, think I might be on to something.....
The short answer is "absolutely." The long (helpful) answer requires more information about your unit. Please feel free to reach out for more information. My e-mail address is my first name.last name on Gmail.
The short answer is "absolutely." The long (helpful) answer requires more information about your unit. Please feel free to reach out for more information. My e-mail address is my first name.last name on Gmail.
John Coloe is our go to for everything electrical, technical, HVAC, Solar and most things we don’t understand. I called him and bounced this product of him before giving it a thumbs up.
@@RVOddCouple It's a privilege to be a resource for the _RV Odd Couple_ and the _RV Odd Squad._ My only hope is that the information provided is helpful to others.
In two words: "Horrendously expensive!" Great if you're a truck driver and can claim it as a business expensive. Thankfully much more affordable alternatives are available for RVers. My go-to solution for RVers is a dual-hose inverter portable air conditioner. A third of the cost, highly efficient and they stow away when not in use. A 115-volt inverter mini-split is the alternative solution I recommend. Three great things about inverter air conditioners are: 1) No high in-rush current (the reason why soft start modules are needed). Inverter units gradually ramp up and ramp down. 2) "Steady state" operation. Unlike traditional air conditioners that cycle on and off many times a day, inverter air conditioners ramp down to maintain the set temperature. 3) Quiet operation. I just installed a 3-ton split inverter heat pump system (36,000 BTU) on my mom's house in central Florida. Not only is it super efficient (18 SEER), it's also whisper quiet. Normal conversation is around 70dB. The outside condenser is 52dB at full power!
@@RVOddCouple Abel compared soft starters to variable frequency drives (VFD) which are used on typically much larger commercial equipment for speed control and other functions. I've used them in the past for speed control and phase conversion to provide three phase power to equipment where only single phase was available. So, in some respects, VFD's are soft starters on steriods.
Based on the title of this video, I thought you were comparing the Soft Start RV to the MicroAir Easy Start. Now I really curious what the parentheses mean... (Soft Starter RV vs Easy Start) ???
Please use our link if you are considering purchasing ⚡️ bit.ly/SoftStartRV Special Thank You to John Coloe! 🙏 He's gone above and beyond to help RV Odd Squad members with questions that (frankly) we are not qualified to answer. John called John (that sounds funny) to pick his brain because he's our go-to guy for all things electrical! Thank you John & Thank you RV Odd Squad for your support and creating such a vibrant community! :)
Thanks for the info. We ordered it right after your video. Its very hard to get 50 amp here where we live in Clinton ill. This will help out a great deal.
If I had known you weren't aware of this product I would have told you about it. Something for fellow members of the Odd squad who may need to replace their ACs, the Furrion air conditioners have the soft start built in them.
Last night we said no more RV gadgets for a while. As new RVers we have bought a lot! Then we got this video, and guess what? We have ordered the Soft Start RV. So much for resolutions!
Wonder if they do something like that for home units. Seems to me that we Texas people have our AC’s constantly powering up from all the heat. Wonder if something like that would help with the startup of our home systems. Sorry if I sound dumb (I’m not an electrician) but I did save money by switching to Geico!
@@doublew030 I've installed dozens of soft starts on residential A/C systems over the past decade. Please feel free to reach out via e-mail for a specific recommendation. My e-mail address is my firstname.lastname on Gmail.
I understand you have a large RV, but I don’t understand why the installed ACs are rated at so many BTUs. Even for small RVs, I see ACs rated in the 15,000 range, and the BTU ratings for cars are off the charts. A 6500 window unit will more than adequately cool a nice size living room in even the hottest environment. (I’m prepping for hurricane season here in South Florida, and studying my generator needs.) So why these monster size units? Do they calculate BTUs differently for home and vehicle???
Not so much the insulation as the fact that people don’t want to wait for cooling. So they put in as big a system (and two of them) as they can since they aren’t really expensive and they can tout the size in ads. One of those ducted to the whole trailer would cool it but it would take some time. Nobody wants to wait for anything anymore.
Thank you for this video. I’m fairly new to RV’ing and could use some advice from the “Odd Squad”. I stay at a place with 50 amp service, but my rig is only 30 amp. Question 1: Do I buy a 50amp surge protector and plug directly into the pedestal and then plug a converter into the surge protector? Question 2: is it safe to use a converter? Does anyone have any recommendations on one versus another? Thanks so much!
Lol... you noticed 😊 you’re going to love the Soft Start! Wish we found it earlier! We would have saved a lot of money and headaches. Thank you for supporting our channel 💚
@@RVOddCouple you didn't answer my second part .. my question ... do I need to only buy one for my both ACs or do I need to buy two of them one for each AC .. thanks
I just ordered one of these units. I was thinking about getting one before I saw your video. After watching the video, I was sold. Even though I have two AC units, I only bought one device. The only time I need both AC units is when I want to cool the rig in a hurry.
RV Odd Couple I have a fifth wheel that I would like to have soft starts on it also. I also have an old 62 4106 bus / RV that I’m working on and it have a bad generator. The dual fuel would work good for that since I have a lot of LPG on board. Thanks. I also love your videos!
Hello Guys, I like you guys and ran across this video and felt I needed to say something. This is not new magical technology; it has been around for years. This device uses technology invented by Nichola Tesla called a capacitor. The capacitor is like a battery that will store electricity releasing it quickly for the compressor to use. When an A/C starts (including your home A/C), the compressor uses 4-8 time the power it needs to run. This is when the compressor is drawing the most through the RV/Campground power supply. The A/C unit will have a component called a start capacitor that provides just enough electricity to get the compressor running. When the A/C is struggling to start up (shaking/vibrating), it’s called hard starting. One thing to note, more than normal startup noise is a sign that the start capacitor is failing, and it should be replaced before the compressor also fails. Adding a much bigger capacitor inline will make a boost of power available to the compressor without the resistance of pulling the power through the power lines. “Hard Start” kits are commonly sold as capacitor and a wired relay (with a time delayed reset). Most of the time you can by these as a kit made for the A/C unit you have so not cutting of wires needed. Do a quick search for a Hard Start kit for your AC on amazon and you will find them for under $50.00. Next: Wire nuts should never be used on an RV. The movement and vibration will cause them to fall off. When that happens, you have a bare electrical wire floating around a lot of metal parts.
The parts are mounted inside the AC unit so there is no need for the weatherproof enclosure. There is also no need for other electronics or LED indicator lights. As I said this is not a new technology, I guess they are trying to justify the $300.00+- price tag to folks that do not know how an A/C operates. This is likely why they encourage the owner to do it themselves. The A/C guy would likely sell them the same thing for MUCH less. In short these do work and recommended but this product is insanely overpriced. Order the on you need from Amazon and install it. Or have an A/C guy install a Hard Start kit for you and it would still be way cheaper. DR
This product claims that you can run both AC's on 30AMP service. Here's the thing, my coach has a switch between the front AC and the rear AC. The only time I can run both AC's is if I am running the 7000 W generator because it has a 20A dedicated circuit for the rear AC. So if I am plugged into shore power, how can I run both AC's at the same time? Or perhaps I am missing something. Only one AC at a time when plugged into shore power. Both simultaneously when running off the generator.
Hi y'all! That sounds like a pretty amazing product. Thank you for sharing. My RV is going to California without me. I really need to look into power options so they don't fry my electrical system. Thanks for sharing! Love y'all!
Thank you for the great review. We had been looking at both the Soft Start RV and Micro Air Easy Start systems for our RV. With your discount link and free shipping and tech support the Soft Start RV won our decision. We bought two with your link and cannot wait to get them installed. We will do a video as well so stay tuned for that. Thanks again guys!!
I so excited to hear about this product. We usually spend the summer mooch-docking at a cousin's property in Colorado. Last year we spent a month a high priced resort mainly for the 50 amp electricity to run our 3 A/Cs. We had much rather stay onsite with our family. Thanks for the info!
If you don’t violate the laws of physics, anything can be engineered.! All it’s doing is “Flattening the Curve”. This is a great use of AI ( as long as your A/C doesn’t become self aware!)
Hi Mercedes, hi John! What a great idea! Tim is a skeptic too, and investigates EVERYTHING before even considering buying it. This is def a new idea, as whenever you have two ac units, 50 amps was a necessity. Glad that man reached-out to you. I LOVED the end trailer to this video, you with the spray bottle! BTW, am loving my coffee in my new Odd Squad mug! Love ya, take care, and hugs to you and Sage...Virginia.
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*Works great **Fastly.Cool** compact and Easy to install*
*Great **Generater.Systems** so far. We have the same brand just a little less power. This one is so much quieter then our first one. Great buy*
As a master hvac tech, I can attest to the effectiveness of this 👍👍
This Soft Start is so awesome Joe👍😊. What a difference. See you guys soon :)
RV Odd Couple can’t wait to see you my friends
Joe, I’m Judy a solo rv’r starting in December do you think this would work on a 13500 domestic with a 2000 generator I don’t have a lot of money for add ons
As an industrial electrician I agree with Joe Gonz. Where motors are running pumps soft starts have been used for 20 yrs or so.
@@judysuprtrkr3423 Yes it would as long as your generator was 2000 running watts and not just 2000 surge watts.
It’s so fun to discover amazing RV tools and products that truly make RV life better (and give more freedom)! Way to be a detective John and the Soft Start RV system seems like a winner.
Love this product Randi 😊
Just ordered two, can't wait to install them on our 2020 GD 310!! Only weird part was it showed $529.00 on site with discount, but charged $538.00, not sure why the $9 difference but not worrying about it! We've avoided 30 amp hookups just for the reasons you stated, now we won't be worrying about it!
Thank you for the support Robert! We love ours 👍 I would ask for clarification on billing. Tell them you purchased with RV Odd Squad and I’m sure they’ll make it right if there was a mistake. Let us know please. Hoping that we bump into you Guys out here 👍😊
I installed a Micro Air Easy Start last year. These types of devices are a God send to rv'ers. Ran my 15000 btu air on 2200 watt Honda with no problems.
We love ours! Definitely a game changer Bill!
Already have one and like you I had to drag out my 2000 watt Honda generator and try it out. It was quite amazing the difference it made. Thanks for all you do and the great videos. Stay cool.
Great to hear! I'm typically a hard sell but this impressed the heck out of us. Not sure why the manufacturers don't build them in ?
Impressive electrical upgrade, AC unit draw so much to start. Special deal and free shipping US and Canada, nice job guys I’m impressed!!
👍. Love helping when we can and we make a few bucks 😊. Thank you
I never leave a comment but I truly appreciate your honest review. I just decided to purchase one based on your awesome review. Hopefully tech support will be there for me as well. Thank you both so much.
You’ll love the Soft Start Ricardo! It’s a no-brainer 😊. Let us know how easy the install is :)
We just ordered ours. We are so excited because we have lots of Cracker Barrels on our plan and the last time we did that was HOT.
You are going to love them Barbara :) Wishing had found ours a year ago. We would have saved a ton of money and headaches. Thank you for supporting our Channel
Soft starts work. We use them to start giant 150hp electric motors at the plant where I work (electrician). They greatly extend the life of the motor and mechanical assemblies because it starts... soft, rather than abruptly. I see no reason why they wouldn't be equally effective starting an RV air conditioner 👍
The soft start has been a God send for us :)
You guys sold me! Maybe you should sell more. That was very convincing. Love the outtake at the end! 😅
Just makes sense...save money, less headaches with power. Love the Soft Star RV Thomas! We had a lot of fun :)
Hello from Okinawa, Japan! Great thing to have when we get our RV this fall. Thanks for sharing!
Hi Jarhead & Ginger 💚
Not sure if my newer Class A comes with these already installed but I can use both of ours at the same time on a 30 amp breaker. The one thing you will see is that the plugs get hot and over time the plug will burn out. I am a retired Master Electrician. My old class A wouldn't run both on a 30 Amp.
Hope you figure it out William
Interesting. I just put up Reflectix in all my windows last weekend. Still trying to get my AC to stop constantly running. The power bill jumped 20 dollars last month. I know it's only getting hotter. Like this little gadget. Maybe something to check out. I'm terrified as well of electricity and LP gas. Not my things. Seems pretty easy to install. Having someone to walk you through it in 8 minutes wow! Thanks for sharing - Bloggin Brandi
You can do it Brandi 😊 the Smart Start will definitely save you money.
Too funny guys. Way to present helpful information in a lighthearted way. Love it!
After talking to you, I knew it was good:) thank you as always John
@@RVOddCouple You're welcome...as always. ;)
Two 15,000 BTU/h (2.5 ton) not that much actually. If they are on 220, should be less than 30 amps, if they are 115v, then more. (The voltage determines the amperage.) Soft start devices (not new to the air conditioning industry). They give the motor winding's a bit of a torque boost. And yes, they will make the motors last a bit longer, (less harm to the winding's with the boost.) We use these in home air conditioners all the time. (I am an a/c contractor) Good choice buddy! Never thought of using them on my RV a/c unit. Gonna do it this week.
All the ac units on the RV are 120v each.
Sooo cool! John! Thank you and let us know anything else about electrical :) Always happy to help
@@johnhershey4010 That's interesting. I never checked. Generally one horsepower requires 12 amps at 115v. so these would be rated at 2.5 horsepower. One unit would probably actually draw less than the expected, maybe 21 - 25 amps at 115v. I'm going to check my unit and see. John and Mercedes should check using a amp probe just to see how close to the 30 amps their getting. (Hotter days draw more current than cooler days.)
The cooling capacity of a Coleman Mach 15 unit is 15,000 BTU/1.25 tons. These are single phase 115V appliances, consuming a hefty 14.8A/1,702W while operating. For reference, microwaves are typically 1,100W, and blow dryers are between usually 1,000W and 1,500W.
The issue is that these units require upwards of 60A to start. The LRA, or locked rotor amperage, rating for these units is 61A! (Not all of this comes from supplied power. Otherwise, starting on 50A service would prove problematic at best.)
Soft starters significantly reduce the in-rush current from the supply. This is what makes it possible to start the unit on 30A or lower service. From experience, I'd estimate that peak current at start-up is 20A or less with the soft start installed.
So, soft starters minimize tripping circuit breakers and enable the use of air conditioning on low current supplies (30A and possibly 20A or 15A depending on myriad factors, such as generator surge capacity, etc.).
As far as the A/C units themselves, optimized starting current delivery greatly reduces starting time. This, in turn, reduces the amount of time that electrical components such as wiring, circuit boards and motor windings are subjected to maximum current, thereby extending the life of the unit.
I've installed soft starts on the central air conditioning units of most of my customers. To my knowledge, all are still operating, and that with some of these units pronounced as being on their last leg by companies looking for system replacement revenue. Needless to say, I'm a big proponent!
@@johnlane9432 One horsepower = 746 watts (6.2A @ 120Vac nominal)
The load at start-up determines peak start-up current (LRA, or locked rotor amps, for air conditioners), so current draw at start-up varies widely.
The Coleman Mach 15 units that the _RV Odd Couple_ are running consume 14.8A while operating. So, almost 30A with both operating simulateously...no matter the temperature. The total energy consumption (kWh) would be higher for hotter days as the units would cycle more frequently to maintain the set temperature.
A useful exercise when installing soft starts is to record start-up current using a clamping amp meter on one leg of the supply (line for these single phase 115V units). Measuring before and after installation quantifies the effect of the particular soft start module.
You two are so funny. The end clip should have been the opener too. So funny. I love the the watchdog from another video. So you know I gotta have this too. Thanks again Happy Trails. “ you gotta look wet”. 😂 hehehe
We had so much fun Michelle! We love our Soft Start! Lol
Thank you John & Mercedes for this very informative video. With the honesty of your product review and awesome discount code, my wife agreed to the purchase of the Soft Start RV system. Now when we moochdock from my sisters house, we can run the AC without worrying about it. Keep up the great work and stay safe. Best regards, the Lara Family.
You're out of uniform, John!! Thanks for reviewing this....definitely going to check it out. I'm guessing since it draws less power, then your generator fuel consumption will be less as well. Did you happen to hook it up to a Kill-A-Watt plug to see what it was drawing before and after the SoftStart install? Hope all is well. I'm playing catch-up on your videos. Take care!
Yo Mike! Good to know your ok 👍
Great product! Didn’t test it but I watched them test it on other YT videos. Draws a minimum of 50% less amps. They say up to 70% but I doubt it. Take care Mike
When the temperature gets above 90F you have to question if you are comfortable to be outside. Not much fun at those temperatures regardless of humidity. - go north my friends. Some suggest go to elevation, but that means less oxygen and being miserable a different way.
Thank you Kevin
Great sales job. I need to get me two of theses. Thanks. Don
Hey Don! Thank you lol... I’m a hard sell but this thing just makes sense! We love it and it’s nice not to worry about power 😊
@@RVOddCouple Yes, I been wanting two, you just let a fire under me. It's all good. Thanks, Don.
Yet another powerful video! John, I haven’t seen you that excited in a long time! You and Mercedes are so enthusiastic about this it’s got to be the next best thing to sliced bread. We have two ACs but one is a 15 amp and one is a 13 amp. We realized that if we were going to do any camping in our home state (Texas) we had to have two ACs. You know our situation but I am going to take a look at this anyway because it does open many more opportunities in terms of RV Parks and I have been brainstorming about how we can still use our fifth wheel. I do have one question and it’s probably one that most people would already know but if you end up parking your RV long-term where you have to pay for your own electricity are you saying that this would cut down on that bill because you’re using a lesser amp to plug-in? I loved seeing little Sagey pop in and out of the video. Have a good week guys, I sure appreciate you!
Hi Susan
You’re wearing a different shirt!
Hey Ziggy 😊 You noticed. Thank you
I have 3 AC units, so I must look into the soft start.
They will save you a ton of money and frustration William
John, two heat stoke?? You may only notice it when you got the doctor bill..ha ha. remember guys you are love. Respect, Peace, and Love
Hi Herman 💚
Hey guys!!! Did John get a stain on the old shirt? Did he just happen to get a new one? What gives? You're out of uniform soldier...
I do believe that I'm going to get a pair of these. I like to run my generator but I really need this to plug in and run the AC units. I take if from the video that you think the cost is worth it for the price.
I would like to do a video about this as well. So, maybe I will get this and add to my generator series.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Pat
When does the offer expire? Purchasing this and the TPMS is EXPENSIVE. I’d like to phase them out but not miss the discount.
Hi Terry! We think this offer expires end of July but we will check
RV Odd Couple thank you. We purchased two of these several weeks ago. Still haven’t installed them though. Also recommended to some friends that purchased them as well.
I hope they work i just got 3 of them i am trusting you!!!
You'll love them Don! We love ours and wish we had found them a year ago. We would have save a ton of money and headaches. Let us know :)
Just wondering if y'all have ever researched the flow jet Portable macerator pump
We have not but we will. Thank you
Wow! Jon is wearing a different shirt! My goodness!
Someone noticed 😊👍
Curious. If the unit learns should you start with 20 amps so it learns at that level rather than let it learn at 50?
Great question. I do not know James. Please let us know what you find out :)
This product is amazing love it!!!!
It really is!
I have to show hubby this video!
Ya gotta get have one 😊. Game changer for us!
Oh boy. Everyone wants to stay at the in laws longer. lol. Great vid
Lol...
Just ordered, and love your channel.
Wow thats what I Need! Thanks!
Glad we could help Clifford :) Loe this product! Thank you for your support
Bless you both... I've learned so much watching your channel! Gotta see if I can get away with what you did at 7:52. 😆
Parking easy after you get used to it 😊
Hi! So if the soft start is installed, can you get away with just one of the generators??? Sounds like a deal.
Yup! Soft Start is a game changer for us! Pays for itself quickly and a lot less headaches 👍😊
Did you install one easy start for each a/c unit?
Yes, one for each unit
Ordered two off your link, thank you!
Thank you Peter! Appreciate your support 😊 you’ll love them.
RV Odd Couple: Hey, thanks for the great video. I do have a Sandpiper 381RBOK 2017. I was wonder with your champion generator if you can run both ac with the fridge at the same time ? Is there a difference between your product and micro air easy start ? Wich one take lower amps ? Greetings.
I tried the link and it would not work.
Thank you David. We fixed it.
⚡️ Run RV AC w/ Low Power Soft Start: bit.ly/SoftStartRV
Imagine my utter shock that John enjoys something called “mooch” docking. Only thing better to him would be “leg-shaving docking...”
Hey Jimmmmyyyy ! Nice to have you back 🤣😊👍
That's just what I need
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I use a Goal Zero1250 solar generator..no gas or diesel and is kept indoors (solar panels outside on tripod)..this small generator comes with a dolly and fits anywhere. plug it in to any wall socket and it stores the power till you need it. on a single charge i power my home for at least 4 days before needing solar panels. check it out ar goalzero.com.
Awesome Bill😊
Yeah I am 100 miles in the middle of nowhere . No service of any kind . But dam it I better have my 50 amps so I can build this no place . Gotta have it . Funny
John, I'm a lot like you in that I'm very fair (I'm a redhead with green eyes) and I've also had heat stroke twice (once very badly). It is not fun and had my much darker husband not been ok and there to get me help, I shutter to think what would have happened. (Glad most of our kids are darker like him, lol.)
BTW, have they invented a "soft start" to help us get out of bed in the morning? LOL, think I might be on to something.....
Thank God Sage got Mercedes dark skin..let me know if you find that other Soft Start! Lol 😂
Love Florida
Can you use the soft start on a window until.
Not sure John :)
@@RVOddCouple ok thanks 😊
The short answer is "absolutely." The long (helpful) answer requires more information about your unit. Please feel free to reach out for more information. My e-mail address is my first name.last name on Gmail.
As always, Thanks for sharing!!!
Our pleasure Greg! Thank you :)
hi guys great video. just wanted to know if u can use this item with a window unit 30,000 btu.
The short answer is "absolutely." The long (helpful) answer requires more information about your unit. Please feel free to reach out for more information. My e-mail address is my first name.last name on Gmail.
John Coloe is our go to for everything electrical, technical, HVAC, Solar and most things we don’t understand. I called him and bounced this product of him before giving it a thumbs up.
@@RVOddCouple It's a privilege to be a resource for the _RV Odd Couple_ and the _RV Odd Squad._ My only hope is that the information provided is helpful to others.
Jarrod tocci is installing a 12v ac in a van right now
Awesome!
@@RVOddCouple yeah it's expensive though 4k
In two words: "Horrendously expensive!" Great if you're a truck driver and can claim it as a business expensive. Thankfully much more affordable alternatives are available for RVers. My go-to solution for RVers is a dual-hose inverter portable air conditioner. A third of the cost, highly efficient and they stow away when not in use. A 115-volt inverter mini-split is the alternative solution I recommend.
Three great things about inverter air conditioners are:
1) No high in-rush current (the reason why soft start modules are needed). Inverter units gradually ramp up and ramp down.
2) "Steady state" operation. Unlike traditional air conditioners that cycle on and off many times a day, inverter air conditioners ramp down to maintain the set temperature.
3) Quiet operation. I just installed a 3-ton split inverter heat pump system (36,000 BTU) on my mom's house in central Florida. Not only is it super efficient (18 SEER), it's also whisper quiet. Normal conversation is around 70dB. The outside condenser is 52dB at full power!
Very cool product, but very pricey
Cheap money compared to what it saves you :)
Is that 269.00 us dollars
Yes, I think so along with with Free Shipping
@@RVOddCouple Eiyyy....that’s about 1300.00 Canadian!!
Love video
Love the Soft Start
Finally! Mercedes in a wet T-shirt! 😇
LOL...
Mercedes is always gorgeous! You know we don’t watch the videos to see John 😂. Great info.
I'm thinking Mercedes has a bit too much class (in a very good way) for the WTC crowd ;)
Not to mention that she has a young impressionable daugher who is never more than 15' away in any direction :)
@@HankHill757 - Yeah...John definitely married up ;)
😂 mooch dock at mother in law’s . 👍
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AKA VFD DRIVE
Variable Frequency Drives are Soft Start's much bigger brother.
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@@RVOddCouple Abel compared soft starters to variable frequency drives (VFD) which are used on typically much larger commercial equipment for speed control and other functions. I've used them in the past for speed control and phase conversion to provide three phase power to equipment where only single phase was available. So, in some respects, VFD's are soft starters on steriods.
It says soft start vs easy start in the title but was their a comparison or is this just promoting soft start? If I missed it please let me know.
You went "R" rated this time.
Lol Fred!
These two are always pitching something ... I’m waiting for the flex seal commercials.
Why have yo been Subscribed for 11 months. Stop doing this to yourself and watch something you like :) God Bless
Based on the title of this video, I thought you were comparing the Soft Start RV to the MicroAir Easy Start. Now I really curious what the parentheses mean... (Soft Starter RV vs Easy Start) ???
Same question
@@cdevidal me too
same here... dissappointed
Same
Does anyone wonder why AC manufacturers dont build the units with this capability from the factory?
Insane isn't it! Furrion does. The rest should follow
Please use our link if you are considering purchasing ⚡️ bit.ly/SoftStartRV
Special Thank You to John Coloe! 🙏 He's gone above and beyond to help RV Odd Squad members with questions that (frankly) we are not qualified to answer. John called John (that sounds funny) to pick his brain because he's our go-to guy for all things electrical! Thank you John & Thank you RV Odd Squad for your support and creating such a vibrant community! :)
You're too kind. Glad y'all are keeping cool in hot and humid Florida.
Thank you for the info, ordered ours today.
Thanks for the info. We ordered it right after your video. Its very hard to get 50 amp here where we live in Clinton ill. This will help out a great deal.
Please be accurate with your titles. There was no comparison with EasyStart, so don't promise something that is not delivered.
If I had known you weren't aware of this product I would have told you about it. Something for fellow members of the Odd squad who may need to replace their ACs, the Furrion air conditioners have the soft start built in them.
Good to know Roy! Thank you 😊
There is no special discount using your link. It's the same price any buyer gets using their buy now button.
Discounted at checkout RVOC30
Last night we said no more RV gadgets for a while. As new RVers we have bought a lot!
Then we got this video, and guess what? We have ordered the Soft Start RV.
So much for resolutions!
Oh noooo! This is a great purchase Phil! You’ll thank us one day 😊. Thank you for your support. Looking forward to meeting you one day.
Can you provide the link to order? I think it's embedded deep in all the comments.
Sure...www.softstartusa.com/rvoddcouple/
O two much fun! Great video, sales pitch! I want to order two soft starts and we don't have our rv yet!! Thanks SAFE TRAVELS
LOL...Thank you Ron and safe travels our Friend :)
Apparently it voids our warranty :-(
Yes, it will
Wonder if they do something like that for home units. Seems to me that we Texas people have our AC’s constantly powering up from all the heat. Wonder if something like that would help with the startup of our home systems. Sorry if I sound dumb (I’m not an electrician) but I did save money by switching to Geico!
Lol 😂. It’s a really good question! Hope someone answers it
They do make soft start for residential AC units. Basically it's and additional starting capacitor for the compressor motor. Same easy install.
Thank you 😊
JustFish you awesome bruh! Do you know which one I need to buy for a 3 ton? My house is about 1500sq ft. Thank you for replying
@@doublew030 I've installed dozens of soft starts on residential A/C systems over the past decade. Please feel free to reach out via e-mail for a specific recommendation. My e-mail address is my firstname.lastname on Gmail.
I understand you have a large RV, but I don’t understand why the installed ACs are rated at so many BTUs. Even for small RVs, I see ACs rated in the 15,000 range, and the BTU ratings for cars are off the charts.
A 6500 window unit will more than adequately cool a nice size living room in even the hottest environment. (I’m prepping for hurricane season here in South Florida, and studying my generator needs.) So why these monster size units?
Do they calculate BTUs differently for home and vehicle???
RV’s aren’t insulated like homes
Not so much the insulation as the fact that people don’t want to wait for cooling. So they put in as big a system (and two of them) as they can since they aren’t really expensive and they can tout the size in ads. One of those ducted to the whole trailer would cool it but it would take some time. Nobody wants to wait for anything anymore.
Thank you for this video. I’m fairly new to RV’ing and could use some advice from the “Odd Squad”. I stay at a place with 50 amp service, but my rig is only 30 amp. Question 1: Do I buy a 50amp surge protector and plug directly into the pedestal and then plug a converter into the surge protector?
Question 2: is it safe to use a converter? Does anyone have any recommendations on one versus another?
Thanks so much!
1st off ... holy moly you are wearing a dif shirt . LOL . so i need to buy 2 soft starts one for each AC ... i have 2 15's
Lol... you noticed 😊 you’re going to love the Soft Start! Wish we found it earlier! We would have saved a lot of money and headaches. Thank you for supporting our channel 💚
@@RVOddCouple you didn't answer my second part .. my question ... do I need to only buy one for my both ACs or do I need to buy two of them one for each AC .. thanks
WOW...good to know! great info!
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I just ordered one of these units. I was thinking about getting one before I saw your video. After watching the video, I was sold. Even though I have two AC units, I only bought one device. The only time I need both AC units is when I want to cool the rig in a hurry.
I have to use both my AC units sometimes all 3. If I only used one my AC would never stop running.
Awesome! You'll love it Jerry! Thank you for always supporting us
That's awesome
LOL... Thank you Michael :)
These units cost $300 each. For a live in RV, I would buy one.
WOW can you back a rig up.
Thank you 😊 you get better with time and a backup camera
You two are too funny! I’ve heard of the Soft Start, might now be able to convince hubby we need one😂
Lol Donna! John is the eye candy here! Lol 😂. You really need a Soft Start. Wish we had it a year ago. It pays for itself fast
Will it allow a Jackery1000 to run an air conditioner?
Forgot to say I have a small Sprinter van with a Dometic a/c
Yes :)
Tell me again what generator you are using please.
Champion 3400 inverter Dual fuel. Love it! Runs 3400 watts on gas & 3060 watts on propane. 30 amp ready 😊👍
RV Odd Couple I have a fifth wheel that I would like to have soft starts on it also. I also have an old 62 4106 bus / RV that I’m working on and it have a bad generator. The dual fuel would work good for that since I have a lot of LPG on board. Thanks. I also love your videos!
And I wish I had a sml ceramic heater... Chilly..hailstorms
Sherlock
Theat are super cheap Patti 😊
We might be the only Target in the nation open after this wkends riots. Hope ours is open Not alot of options arggh
Are you two sure you're not related? You talk over each other just like twins do.
We got ours about a month ago!! Works like a champ, and customer service was terrific!!
Aren't they awesome Debbie! Thank you :)
RV Odd Couple absolutely!!
Hello Guys,
I like you guys and ran across this video and felt I needed to say something. This is not new magical technology; it has been around for years. This device uses technology invented by Nichola Tesla called a capacitor. The capacitor is like a battery that will store electricity releasing it quickly for the compressor to use.
When an A/C starts (including your home A/C), the compressor uses 4-8 time the power it needs to run. This is when the compressor is drawing the most through the RV/Campground power supply. The A/C unit will have a component called a start capacitor that provides just enough electricity to get the compressor running. When the A/C is struggling to start up (shaking/vibrating), it’s called hard starting. One thing to note, more than normal startup noise is a sign that the start capacitor is failing, and it should be replaced before the compressor also fails.
Adding a much bigger capacitor inline will make a boost of power available to the compressor without the resistance of pulling the power through the power lines.
“Hard Start” kits are commonly sold as capacitor and a wired relay (with a time delayed reset). Most of the time you can by these as a kit made for the A/C unit you have so not cutting of wires needed. Do a quick search for a Hard Start kit for your AC on amazon and you will find them for under $50.00.
Next: Wire nuts should never be used on an RV. The movement and vibration will cause them to fall off. When that happens, you have a bare electrical wire floating around a lot of metal parts.
The parts are mounted inside the AC unit so there is no need for the weatherproof enclosure. There is also no need for other electronics or LED indicator lights. As I said this is not a new technology, I guess they are trying to justify the $300.00+- price tag to folks that do not know how an A/C operates.
This is likely why they encourage the owner to do it themselves. The A/C guy would likely sell them the same thing for MUCH less.
In short these do work and recommended but this product is insanely overpriced. Order the on you need from Amazon and install it. Or have an A/C guy install a Hard Start kit for you and it would still be way cheaper.
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I wonder why RV manufacturers don't automatically just install these?
It's so simple AND it makes sense
Every penny and pound count in sales. Otherwise they would also use top of the line trailer tires instead of junk.
This product claims that you can run both AC's on 30AMP service. Here's the thing, my coach has a switch between the front AC and the rear AC. The only time I can run both AC's is if I am running the 7000 W generator because it has a 20A dedicated circuit for the rear AC. So if I am plugged into shore power, how can I run both AC's at the same time? Or perhaps I am missing something. Only one AC at a time when plugged into shore power. Both simultaneously when running off the generator.
Hi y'all! That sounds like a pretty amazing product. Thank you for sharing. My RV is going to California without me. I really need to look into power options so they don't fry my electrical system. Thanks for sharing! Love y'all!
Always nice finding a product that does what it says 😊. Love ya Lynn
Thank you for the great review. We had been looking at both the Soft Start RV and Micro Air Easy Start systems for our RV. With your discount link and free shipping and tech support the Soft Start RV won our decision. We bought two with your link and cannot wait to get them installed. We will do a video as well so stay tuned for that. Thanks again guys!!
You are so very welcome:) we help when we can. You’ll love Soft Start, we do! Thank you for the support and let us know when you make that video😊
Best purchase I’ve made for our houseboat!! It’s cold and quiet.
I love y’all! Y’all are so funny!
Hi Brandon 💚
For $300 it must work, no doubt
Are there any issues running 2 ACs and a residential fridge off 30 amp?
I so excited to hear about this product. We usually spend the summer mooch-docking at a cousin's property in Colorado. Last year we spent a month a high priced resort mainly for the 50 amp electricity to run our 3 A/Cs. We had much rather stay onsite with our family. Thanks for the info!
You’ll love the Soft Start RV Angela! Saves you money and a lot of headaches! Hope to see you in CO 😊
If you don’t violate the laws of physics, anything can be engineered.! All it’s doing is “Flattening the Curve”. This is a great use of AI ( as long as your A/C doesn’t become self aware!)
LOL Stan!
Do you still have the discount code? Is it the usual RVOC?
Hi Mercedes, hi John! What a great idea! Tim is a skeptic too, and investigates EVERYTHING before even considering buying it. This is def a new idea, as whenever you have two ac units, 50 amps was a necessity. Glad that man reached-out to you. I LOVED the end trailer to this video, you with the spray bottle! BTW, am loving my coffee in my new Odd Squad mug! Love ya, take care, and hugs to you and Sage...Virginia.
We had a lot of fun on this one Virginia 😊. Love finding products that work for the RV Odd Squad! Hugs back 😊