@@AndertonsKeyboardDept I'd like to see a Reface CP as one of them. I already own one but I'd be interested to see how close you think it really is to any of the keyboards it's supposed to imitate.
well, you can do a test but no Rhodes sounds like another one, I mean you can set harmonic content of each note, so maybe a sample is closer to Herbie's Suitcase, another can be similar to the Joe Sample's one and so on.
Damn... I tried running the video "blind" behind another browser window and guessing along with Jack. I mistook the Yamaha for the real one! And I've been playing, voicing and repairing wurlies for years. I must say, though, that Jacks Wurlie is a 200a and they tend to sound a little darker than the older models like the 200 that I own. The Yamaha might be modelled on a 200 rather than a 200a, possibly? The Nord was very easy to pick out. Despite Dan saying there is no amp on there, I'm pretty sure he was using the amped sample, which is very easy to spot. The Korg one is just atrocious. I'd wish Nord would try to catch up with Yamaha and ontroduce more/better Wurly samples. Would especially be nice if they would offer some of the older tube-based models as well.
@@andy5178 right, but it would still be easy to pick out compared to Yamaha. Try to take the original sample and apply a bit of amp sim. Sounds almost like the new sample and it works better dynamically because the amp sim actually responds more realistic to dynamics as opposed to the sample.
Another great video guys.... loving your work as always. I play a Wurlitzer EP200A which I absolutely love and I have a Nord too which is great but it'll never quite replace the real deal for Wurli alone. I have got to say the closest emulation of my Wurli is my little Yamaha Reface CP, when played through a master keyboard that thing really sings, I adore it, the EFX are really great. I don't know if it is the same model as the one in the CP73 but it sounds real close to me but I have never played a CP73 to compare. I'd love to know though.
Love these blindfold tests!! Well done:) Love to hear another piano showdown including past winners Nord Grand and Casio w/Ravel against Korg SV2 and Yamaha P515? Either way fun vids!
I was surprised they used the XL model on the Nord. I had a Wurli for a while and found the Wurlitzer 1 (5.8MB) sample (completely dry) was almost identical to the direct Line Out sound of the real Wurli. Maybe it was just too small a sample for a good comparison. Great video though!
Amazing how good the real Wurli is but the CP73 and Nord are so good (also liked the CP73 best). Would love to know how the Roland RD2000 and Keyscape compare against the real Wurli.
Thanks for the comment, we noticed as the video went live that we made a little editing mistake here. The description is all up to date with the correct Nord but unfortunately the video will be stuck with the Nord Grand.
Now thats a nicely executed video! Best Stage Pianos (love the Yamaha! Got one myself to conplement my nord stage) vs. Software vs. THE REAL THING!!!! (Rhodes, clav, synths (Would love to see you compare the Jupiter x to the jp8/jx8p/ sh101 etc. Love you guys!
Wow. Ears of gold there. I,m really a guitarist (40 yrs playing) but do love keyboards, especially EP (big fan of that Mahavishnu Orchestra, Weather Report, Chick Corea, Van Der Graaf Generator 70's vibe) and I would not have got this test no way. I had a Yamaha DX7ii back in the early 90's and that thing could not reproduce strings without sounding harsh, nor analogue pads or swells that sounded warm and lush. It couldn't do much of anything bar destroy brain cells trying to learn how to program the damn thing. Bar existing as a mother keyboard. Bar a half decent sounding EP, the one thing it could do without being offensive to my ears. My Moog Rogue though. Oh man. That cost me 40 quid back in 1991. Someone nicked it. I was so pissed.
Good Stuff Guys! Agree with the ordrer of places. By the way a discontinued Waldorf Zarenbourg [from 2006] for me have a best sound of Wurlitzer from digital keys. And can somebody tell if is a difference in sound between Yamaha CP engine and Reface?
The give away on most emulations is they focus too much on that distorted Wurly sound you only get on the real one if you are playing really hard. Even if you play quite softly on an emulated Wurly it sounds like you are really pounding it.
the problem is: playing and hearing it live on stage or in rehearsel room ist quite different to listening to it in my room. You need a lot of energy to get it right.
4:15 sounds like you put stereo tremolo on Korg Sv2 wurly, should be monaural! Maybe it's called vibrato in Korg. Anyway, Yamaha is great in wurly samples, from Reface CP to the top CP series.
Keyscape definitely continues to challenge a lot of our favourite brands. We filmed a blindfold challenge the other week shooting out the sampled sounds against real keyboards. 🤘 Take a look & let us know what you think! th-cam.com/video/lmGmn11cbLs/w-d-xo.html
My aim is just to learn to play by hear. What do I need? A digital piano? midi controller? Weighted keys? Semi weighted keys? Keyboard? 88 keys? Hans Zimmer inspires me, I just want to play his music. Please suggest a model 🙏 I am super confused Thanks & regards
Hmm. Just a thought. Does the Wurli has any "dry" sound? And could it be heared while you hear the amplified sound through the speakers? Could that give a clue to the blindefolded?
Pleasing to see you thumbed up the Yam as my MODX should (I think) be close/based on this Patch... keep up these entertaining YT drops Jack & Co. 😎🎹🎶👍🍻 ps. forgot to mention, you should have inc. Eric's Wurli from Keyscape....
I have a MODX6 and it keeps impressing me. Added organimation to it to improve its B3 chops, use a boss pedal for Leslie and midi in a lesser 88 key for playing piano, wurly, Rhodes etc. Light and portable for carting to jams but incredibly good and powerful for it’s price. I leave a spare cheap 88 key at my bands practice room. My back thanks me.
@@jml7916 Great set up there, makes sense as a gigging combo. Studio based myself now, using Studiologics SL88 Grand triple-strike sensing master for piano, Rhodes, Wurli, synth keys using GEM S3 Turbo 76-key to play MODX6, racks, VSTi's, etc. which has rare Poly Aftertouch! 😎🎹🎶👍🍻
We don't care whether its an honest blindfold or whatever...... What we want to see is "blindfold test" 😁😁..... There are many keyboard comparisons but when I come to TH-cam, I intentionally search for your channel just to watch your "blindfolded tests". Much love
I picked the Wurli as soon as I heard it too. It just fills the entire spectrum. Everything else sounds like plastic in direct comparison and I'm not a purist at all
Forget what sound closest to the real one, what actually sounds the best? What will cut through the mix? I'll put my money on the Nord every day of the week.
Korg had the bad luck of going right after the real Wurlitzer. I listened back to it compared to the nord and yamaha, it sounds different but not more or less "realistic" imo. Yamaha CP probably is the most accurate wurly of the 3 digital keyboards.
I had my eyes closed until piano 3 when it become quite obvious as the real one does not have a consistent sound per key like the others do... also it is not as compressed sounding
Yamaha the unlikely champion there! personally i thought the Korg was nice but nothing like the wurlitzer. But Jack you need to get a room with the Nords lol......Red Love
Unlikely??? Yamaha have had the most realistic sounding instrument patches for decades. I don't know what all the fuss is about Nord, apart from the fact it's red.
I think that the sv2's Epiano sounds are really strong so it was a bit disappointing. Maybe the guy just didnt have it set right. I played the cp88 next to it today and the e pianos on the korg were better side by side according to my self and my producer/engineer.
Why is the actual Wurlitzer breaking up with distortion? Fucking amateurs! Playing the SV2 sort of gave away his hand (no pun intended) by playing outside the range of an actual 200. The Wurlie should have been easy to pick out, as it's easy to hear the mechanics of the actual instrument in the air at that close range. The SV has an editor that lets you really dive deep into more parameters so I'm surprised that they couldn't match the sound better.
It doesn't make any sense when the guy guessing sits a meter from the instruments. You can obviously hear the mechanics of the real Wurli from such a distance.
Leaving out the Crumar Seven,, witch is mainfocus is emulating ( using psychical modelling, instead of sampling) Rhodes and Wurlitzer, makes this video kinda pointless,, Only showing what you sell, instead what's out there, makes it confusing imo.
I use a GSI sound module (same sounds as Crumar) and a litlle Yamaha Reface for Wurly emulations. But I can't tell myself which one I prefer, or the one I find closest to the real model! Maybe a mix of the 2!! The only thing that I don't really like with the crumar is the guitar amp simulation, which I find too marked (I would prefer to have a simpler drive, without cabinet effects like on the Reface)
Nice challenge! How about doing the same shootout with RHODES! Thumbs up!
Challenge excepted...
@@AndertonsKeyboardDept I'd like to see a Reface CP as one of them. I already own one but I'd be interested to see how close you think it really is to any of the keyboards it's supposed to imitate.
@@AndertonsKeyboardDept ... rem to inc. VSTi's like Eric's Rhode's from Keyscape! 😎🎹🎶👍🍻
@@AndertonsKeyboardDept I second that
@@AndertonsKeyboardDept excepted 😂😂
I’d be curious to see a similar blindfold challenge but with a Rhodes piano or Rhodes patches rather than Wurlitzer parches
We can make that happen!
Would be cool to see keyscape or another VSS thrown into the mix too!
@@AndertonsKeyboardDept I'd also be super interested to see that. I have a Roland RD2000 and absolutely love the Rhodes patch on it.
well, you can do a test but no Rhodes sounds like another one, I mean you can set harmonic content of each note, so maybe a sample is closer to Herbie's Suitcase, another can be similar to the Joe Sample's one and so on.
@@AndertonsKeyboardDept Don't forget to include the Kronos in this shootout!!
Damn... I tried running the video "blind" behind another browser window and guessing along with Jack. I mistook the Yamaha for the real one! And I've been playing, voicing and repairing wurlies for years. I must say, though, that Jacks Wurlie is a 200a and they tend to sound a little darker than the older models like the 200 that I own. The Yamaha might be modelled on a 200 rather than a 200a, possibly? The Nord was very easy to pick out. Despite Dan saying there is no amp on there, I'm pretty sure he was using the amped sample, which is very easy to spot. The Korg one is just atrocious. I'd wish Nord would try to catch up with Yamaha and ontroduce more/better Wurly samples. Would especially be nice if they would offer some of the older tube-based models as well.
Actually, Nord does offer an older, but non-amped Wurlitzer patch. They should have tried out that one, imho, as it's closer to an original 200A.
@@andy5178 right, but it would still be easy to pick out compared to Yamaha. Try to take the original sample and apply a bit of amp sim. Sounds almost like the new sample and it works better dynamically because the amp sim actually responds more realistic to dynamics as opposed to the sample.
Thanks! I needed this unbiased opinion from a great source like yourself
Loved the blindfold roles being switched! Was a nice change of pace while still getting D-Bingerz blessed hands : )
Loved the "no" part! That had me genuinely laughing! Genius
Another great video guys.... loving your work as always. I play a Wurlitzer EP200A which I absolutely love and I have a Nord too which is great but it'll never quite replace the real deal for Wurli alone. I have got to say the closest emulation of my Wurli is my little Yamaha Reface CP, when played through a master keyboard that thing really sings, I adore it, the EFX are really great. I don't know if it is the same model as the one in the CP73 but it sounds real close to me but I have never played a CP73 to compare. I'd love to know though.
No Fair! He was playing Low Notes on the Korg that don't even exist on the real Wurly! That should have been a tip-off, am i right? Love you guys.
I'm not that smart!! X
I thought the Korg sounded SO good! Maybe not the most accurate thing in the world, but a cool sound in its own right!
Nothing beats the real thing!
The real one was the warmest, but also had some some top end sizzle, like it's overdriving. Others sounded pretty clean. Korg sounded synthy.
Oooo how the tables have turned!! Finally letting Dan play without a blindfold for an entire video!
It was only a matter of time before we let him free...
Nord should make a Wurlitzer 140b sample, the best wurlitzer imho
keyscape has it sampled and it sounds magical
no
@@midnightmix2692 Really the best sampled wurly I've heard!!
Love these blindfold tests!! Well done:) Love to hear another piano showdown including past winners Nord Grand and Casio w/Ravel against Korg SV2 and Yamaha P515? Either way fun vids!
I was surprised they used the XL model on the Nord. I had a Wurli for a while and found the Wurlitzer 1 (5.8MB) sample (completely dry) was almost identical to the direct Line Out sound of the real Wurli. Maybe it was just too small a sample for a good comparison. Great video though!
Amazing how good the real Wurli is but the CP73 and Nord are so good (also liked the CP73 best). Would love to know how the Roland RD2000 and Keyscape compare against the real Wurli.
They set up the SV2 pretty lousy for this. It stuck out like a sore thumb with those settings.
Plus he played real low notes that aren't on the Wurlitzer.
Yep, not a fair hearing for the Korg. I wanted a Wurly emulation and went for a Korg over the Nord as it sounds much warmer
1:08 - editing mistake here. Screen says Nord Grand 88, but you're using the Nord Stage 3 88.
Thanks for the comment, we noticed as the video went live that we made a little editing mistake here. The description is all up to date with the correct Nord but unfortunately the video will be stuck with the Nord Grand.
The giveaway is the tine resonance in the real Wurly....the unplayed tines ringing from the physical vibrations in the case and keys being struck.
Now thats a nicely executed video! Best Stage Pianos (love the Yamaha! Got one myself to conplement my nord stage) vs. Software vs. THE REAL THING!!!! (Rhodes, clav, synths (Would love to see you compare the Jupiter x to the jp8/jx8p/ sh101 etc. Love you guys!
I gotta get me a Yamaha CP73 just for the Wurlitzer patch alone!
Yeah but the Rhodes aren’t nearly as good. I actually prefer the sample they put in the Reface.
@@tylerthompson1842 Me too the Reface Rhodes, Wurly, and Clav are great!
@@tylerthompson1842 the reface is modeled, or a combination of modeling and samples, but without allowing user edits
Greeeat video! I have a Nord Stage 3 and i loove the Wurlitzer 1 (wich has no preamp). BUT... Yamaha was a surprise! Great sounding patch!
That wurli do be sounding magical
Would be cool to see D Bingerz do some drum videos!
Totally beside the point, but why do you call the Nord Stage a Nord Grand???
Congrats!
Wow. Ears of gold there. I,m really a guitarist (40 yrs playing) but do love keyboards, especially EP (big fan of that Mahavishnu Orchestra, Weather Report, Chick Corea, Van Der Graaf Generator 70's vibe) and I would not have got this test no way. I had a Yamaha DX7ii back in the early 90's and that thing could not reproduce strings without sounding harsh, nor analogue pads or swells that sounded warm and lush. It couldn't do much of anything bar destroy brain cells trying to learn how to program the damn thing. Bar existing as a mother keyboard. Bar a half decent sounding EP, the one thing it could do without being offensive to my ears.
My Moog Rogue though. Oh man. That cost me 40 quid back in 1991. Someone nicked it. I was so pissed.
Good Stuff Guys! Agree with the ordrer of places. By the way a discontinued Waldorf Zarenbourg [from 2006] for me have a best sound of Wurlitzer from digital keys. And can somebody tell if is a difference in sound between Yamaha CP engine and Reface?
The give away on most emulations is they focus too much on that distorted Wurly sound you only get on the real one if you are playing really hard. Even if you play quite softly on an emulated Wurly it sounds like you are really pounding it.
The Yamaha was a surprise. Very nice. What did he think of the CP73 keybed? Have they fixed the flaws?
What flaws do they have?
@@edonave yamahamusicians.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15467
the problem is: playing and hearing it live on stage or in rehearsel room ist quite different to listening to it in my room.
You need a lot of energy to get it right.
4:15 sounds like you put stereo tremolo on Korg Sv2 wurly, should be monaural! Maybe it's called vibrato in Korg. Anyway, Yamaha is great in wurly samples, from Reface CP to the top CP series.
I think you should just make Keyscape a permanent feature from now onwards. The EP sounds are incredible
Keyscape definitely continues to challenge a lot of our favourite brands. We filmed a blindfold challenge the other week shooting out the sampled sounds against real keyboards. 🤘
Take a look & let us know what you think! th-cam.com/video/lmGmn11cbLs/w-d-xo.html
Yes! The Keyscape wurli is heaven.
eq the nord and it gets closer...was impressed (surprised) with the yamaha
what's the best software sound for a wurlitzer?
My aim is just to learn to play by hear.
What do I need?
A digital piano? midi controller? Weighted keys? Semi weighted keys? Keyboard? 88 keys?
Hans Zimmer inspires me, I just want to play his music.
Please suggest a model 🙏
I am super confused
Thanks & regards
I’d get a midi controller and check out spitfire audio. Hans has made some sample libraries for them that sound amazing. also checkout keyscape!
Just can’t beat the sound of a real Wurly
Wonder if you could make a similar test happen for Hammond, if you can fit a Leslie in the studio...
Hmm. Just a thought. Does the Wurli has any "dry" sound? And could it be heared while you hear the amplified sound through the speakers? Could that give a clue to the blindefolded?
The Wurlitzer sounds like a dirty version of the patch on the CP73.
Pleasing to see you thumbed up the Yam as my MODX should (I think) be close/based on this Patch... keep up these entertaining YT drops Jack & Co. 😎🎹🎶👍🍻 ps. forgot to mention, you should have inc. Eric's Wurli from Keyscape....
I have a MODX6 and it keeps impressing me. Added organimation to it to improve its B3 chops, use a boss pedal for Leslie and midi in a lesser 88 key for playing piano, wurly, Rhodes etc. Light and portable for carting to jams but incredibly good and powerful for it’s price. I leave a spare cheap 88 key at my bands practice room. My back thanks me.
@@jml7916 Great set up there, makes sense as a gigging combo. Studio based myself now, using Studiologics SL88 Grand triple-strike sensing master for piano, Rhodes, Wurli, synth keys using GEM S3 Turbo 76-key to play MODX6, racks, VSTi's, etc. which has rare Poly Aftertouch! 😎🎹🎶👍🍻
Its not the same Wurli, I dont beleive Yamaha has made this sample set available for the MODX/Montage
@@jonathanosborn4800 Okay thanks Jonathan for clarifying that, as wasn't sure..... 👍🍻
37 key synth shootout would be doable with the ms20, virus, sequential pro3 and the moog
Great idea Quib! Thanks mate X
sound keep em coming king
I’d easily recognise my Wurlitzer by the hum 🤣
Jack, nip up to Twickenham and try my Crumar Seven! I've got a 200A myself so it can be set up to compare.
Lounge lizard for me
We don't care whether its an honest blindfold or whatever...... What we want to see is "blindfold test" 😁😁..... There are many keyboard comparisons but when I come to TH-cam, I intentionally search for your channel just to watch your "blindfolded tests". Much love
I would like to see how the Keyscape stacks up against your Wurlitzer
I picked the Wurli as soon as I heard it too. It just fills the entire spectrum. Everything else sounds like plastic in direct comparison and I'm not a purist at all
What are those acoustic panels with the white design panels on top?
Forget what sound closest to the real one, what actually sounds the best? What will cut through the mix? I'll put my money on the Nord every day of the week.
Nord Grand = Nord Stage? :D
As always: great & entertaining video
Korg had the bad luck of going right after the real Wurlitzer. I listened back to it compared to the nord and yamaha, it sounds different but not more or less "realistic" imo. Yamaha CP probably is the most accurate wurly of the 3 digital keyboards.
Superb
I had my eyes closed until piano 3 when it become quite obvious as the real one does not have a consistent sound per key like the others do... also it is not as compressed sounding
Keyscape's Wurly is the best sample I have ever heard and played.
Yeah real realistic that low D on the Korg :D also: ouch, that release on it...
SV2 Does still keep the sv1's preset wurli, which I personally think sounds closer to the real wurli. Could be slightly more fair that way?
Golden ears, mates 👍
FOr me the Yamaha Wurli sounds the best.
Lolz. Nice work, Jack
I think that was the wrong patch on the SV2! My SV1 Wurli patch sounds way closer to the real thing than whatever that was!
Nord Grand is the best out of all them IMHO - including the real one 😃
Nice one
Now do Rhodes comparison!
Apparently Nord Grand didn't exist at the time of your recording...
Cause you were using NS3 not Grand , unless all 88-key are considered as Grand 😄
"What do I win, guys?" Erm, a real Wurlitzer. This one here. Enjoy.
Where can I find the sheet music from this video?
no keyscape?((
The giveaway on the Nord was the overbearing tremolo, and a bit too bright.
i really enjoyed the korg sv2. not saying it was closest to Jack Wurly but it did sound great
It looke by far the coolest
@@samsschool3639 for definite
Which Wurly sample on the CP73 did he use?
He said „preset trem wrl“, so it must be the „warm“ sample.
Yamaha the unlikely champion there! personally i thought the Korg was nice but nothing like the wurlitzer. But Jack you need to get a room with the Nords lol......Red Love
Unlikely??? Yamaha have had the most realistic sounding instrument patches for decades. I don't know what all the fuss is about Nord, apart from the fact it's red.
I was disappointed not to see a Kurzweil in the mix. I reckon they sound better than Nord any day.
Johnny Keys Music ... Andertons don’t stock Kurzweil, so they don’t appear in their videos
I would have thought that the mechanical sounds of the real Wurlitzer would have been audible and would have given it away.
is the whurly lighter to play than the rhodes? i am told it is?
Yes
Its not a nord grand,its a nord stage 3. D’ooh :)
Over at 3:48. Lol.
He can hear hammers - it's not fair
thas not a nord grand!
My honest opinion is that i think the korg sounded the besy
I think that the sv2's Epiano sounds are really strong so it was a bit disappointing. Maybe the guy just didnt have it set right. I played the cp88 next to it today and the e pianos on the korg were better side by side according to my self and my producer/engineer.
The Korgs Wurlitzer is like hearing an American doing a really bad English accent trying to convince you they’re English.
Why is the actual Wurlitzer breaking up with distortion? Fucking amateurs!
Playing the SV2 sort of gave away his hand (no pun intended) by playing outside the range of an actual 200. The Wurlie should have been easy to pick out, as it's easy to hear the mechanics of the actual instrument in the air at that close range. The SV has an editor that lets you really dive deep into more parameters so I'm surprised that they couldn't match the sound better.
Wurlitzer has much more presence I think.
Thats not a Nord grand,its a Nord stage
It doesn't make any sense when the guy guessing sits a meter from the instruments. You can obviously hear the mechanics of the real Wurli from such a distance.
Come on guys, that was the easiest challange ever! So clear to hear.
I think keyscape should have been thrown in the mix
Leaving out the Crumar Seven,, witch is mainfocus is emulating ( using psychical modelling, instead of sampling) Rhodes and Wurlitzer, makes this video kinda pointless,, Only showing what you sell, instead what's out there, makes it confusing imo.
I use a GSI sound module (same sounds as Crumar) and a litlle Yamaha Reface for Wurly emulations. But I can't tell myself which one I prefer, or the one I find closest to the real model!
Maybe a mix of the 2!! The only thing that I don't really like with the crumar is the guitar amp simulation, which I find too marked (I would prefer to have a simpler drive, without cabinet effects like on the Reface)
Since he had no headphones on, he also heard the mechanical action. Not a real challenge.
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I agree with Jack the Yamaha sounds so much like the real deal. Nord is awesome but my wallet runs away and hides whenever I think the word Nord.
You would have to be deaf not to hear the difference
regálenme uno 😅☹
Real thing can't be beat, nord is best at duplicating sound, korg has a great sound, but not authentic, Yamaha, great synth,, natural sounds sorry
Rhodes > Wurlitzer