Haelena Tells Aemond Hes Going to Die House of Dragons S2 Episode 8 Finale

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  • @BobSacamanoIndustries
    @BobSacamanoIndustries 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +774

    "it wouldn't change anything".....like she knows her own demise is destined to happen. Girl is one of my fav's in this series.

    • @petrstanovsky7648
      @petrstanovsky7648 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Yes, I love how you can see she seen whole Dance of the Dragons and her death in front of her eyes. Phia Saban is amazing actress.

    • @sunnymitra6372
      @sunnymitra6372 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Yes, I love Helena.......she deserves someone like Jon Snow.

    • @Loustalott
      @Loustalott หลายเดือนก่อน

      All history of ice and fire may change and maybe Daemon survived

    • @OpalLeigh-il8yj
      @OpalLeigh-il8yj 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I absolutely love what they did with her character in the show- she is one of the most unique and fleshed out characters I have seen in years.

    • @m.williams4971
      @m.williams4971 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mine as well!

  • @Jaegar19Ultima-u9d
    @Jaegar19Ultima-u9d 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +499

    Haelena: Whether my fate changes matters not, your fate is already sealed.

    • @t-rexcellentreviews1663
      @t-rexcellentreviews1663 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@Jaegar19Ultima-u9d Aemond’s fate was sealed the moment he sealed Luke’s.

    • @petrstanovsky7648
      @petrstanovsky7648 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@t-rexcellentreviews1663Luke's fate was sealed in the moment he was conceived. That's his whole tragedy, Aemond was like a tool of something that was coming thanks to Rhanenyra's recklessness and that's vey sad.

    • @user-dx2dm8oq8g
      @user-dx2dm8oq8g 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@petrstanovsky7648 I agree, she set those kids up to be usurped. Were her kids legitimate, no one would be able to steal the throne from her so easily. She gave them all the reasons to do so. We saw Alicent be nervous asking to see the baby right after she gave birth to check if her child was legitimate. If they were, Alicent would have no reason to refuse to marry Haelena to one of her sons. Rhaenyra's bad behaviour tainted people's opinion of her and doomed her kids. I think that if she was honest with Alicent from the start, she would have helped her. She went against her own dad for her and regretted it.

    • @daniellelawman9724
      @daniellelawman9724 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@user-dx2dm8oq8g Nope. They would have usurped her even if her children were legit. It was always going to happen, no matter what Rhaenyra did.

    • @user-dx2dm8oq8g
      @user-dx2dm8oq8g 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@daniellelawman9724 I agree Otto would not let it happen, he was determined to have his descendants on the throne, but it would have been harder to usurp her.

  • @TheHeartlessFour
    @TheHeartlessFour 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +456

    Looked him dead in the eye, leaned forward a little, and said "It wouldn't change anything".
    Gave me Sandor's "Someone is." vibes.

    • @bobbycorwen1356
      @bobbycorwen1356 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      "Do you really want to die over some chickens?"

    • @DarthSobekus99
      @DarthSobekus99 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Queen Helaena, waking in the hour of the bat hovering over Aegon until he wakes. She leans close and in her calmest voice yet utters, “Bring me one-uh those Spiders.” then proceeds to pace frantically whilst Aegon is too sober to deal with his Sister-wife

  • @heekapoo
    @heekapoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

    I like that Helaena is indeed facing the direction in which Harrenhal is.

  • @eleenuPele
    @eleenuPele 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +182

    When she say “ I saw it” he knows she is telling the truth he also knows his family have the gift of ‘dragon dreams’ and his sister Helaena is the one who has it so he does not like it but his fate is sealed.

    • @adamreid3991
      @adamreid3991 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I don’t think he does know. It looks to me like he refuses to believe her because he thinks he’s untouchable ever since he claimed Vhagar

    • @aahanashrivastaa
      @aahanashrivastaa หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      But he heard her when said he'd have to close an eye fo get a dragon, and that there's a beast beneath the boards. I think he understood it

    • @t-rexcellentreviews1663
      @t-rexcellentreviews1663 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@aahanashrivastaahe knows she has prophetic powers, but he probably still thinks he can change his fate, which he can’t, his fate was sealed the moment he chose to seal Luke’s, as soon as Vhagar killed his nephew and his dragon, Aemond’s days were numbered.

  • @santeria7214
    @santeria7214 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +998

    It’s kinda sad how this family and these siblings were absolutely torn apart because a few individuals didn’t want a woman on the throne.

    • @neofulcrum5013
      @neofulcrum5013 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +170

      I entirely blame Otto for this

    • @TheRealHerbaSchmurba
      @TheRealHerbaSchmurba 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      @@neofulcrum5013yep. He plants things in peoples heads

    • @petrstanovsky7648
      @petrstanovsky7648 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      It was more difficult then that. If that woman didn't have obvious bastards, there wouldn't be much options to overthrow her, she got it coming.

    • @lizozweni6402
      @lizozweni6402 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Women cannot rule in this Universe

    • @agarc931
      @agarc931 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

      @@petrstanovsky7648even without bastards they were already planning to usurp her throne. invalid argument

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum5013 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +316

    Helanea the three eyed dragon

    • @bambinosto
      @bambinosto หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aah the ignorance.

  • @L2L732
    @L2L732 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +262

    Wow, Haleana giving off real Cassandra of Troy vibes……..😅😦👁️

    • @youtubeistryingtocensorme
      @youtubeistryingtocensorme 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She is Cassandra of Troy. That’s exactly who she is. Minus the rape part

    • @t-rexcellentreviews1663
      @t-rexcellentreviews1663 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      The writers have confirmed that Cassandra of Troy was one of Helaena’s inspirations in this show.

    • @L2L732
      @L2L732 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@t-rexcellentreviews1663 of course, having prophetic visions, no one understanding or refusing to understand her when she tries to help them by telling people her visions, classic allusion to Cassandra of Troy👌🤔

    • @t-rexcellentreviews1663
      @t-rexcellentreviews1663 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@L2L732 indeed, as someone who is a big fan of Greek Mythology, I really like this decision with her character, it makes her much more interesting than she was in the book.

  • @samalvey8168
    @samalvey8168 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +141

    Helaena is the only one on the Greens' side whom I truly pity. She just wants a peaceful life.

    • @daniellelawman9724
      @daniellelawman9724 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's not all she wants. I mean, she temp stole the throne from her own half-sister, didn't she? I don't care what anyone else says, she also sided with the wrong side, knowing it's wrong and won't end well for anyone.

    • @acephaedramusic9588
      @acephaedramusic9588 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@daniellelawman9724 Are you trolling? When has this poor girl had any agency? She was mother to prince Jahaerys, how would she have switched sides?

  • @darthveatay
    @darthveatay 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

    Swallowed up in the God's eye with vhagar and dark sister

    • @HashBandicoot356
      @HashBandicoot356 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      They at least recover Dark Sister.

    • @madgreensonunbound5801
      @madgreensonunbound5801 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@HashBandicoot356 Corpses are all over the place, Valyrian Steel swords on the other hand, are priceless. 😜

    • @HashBandicoot356
      @HashBandicoot356 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@madgreensonunbound5801 Mastercard commercial vibes.

    • @t-rexcellentreviews1663
      @t-rexcellentreviews1663 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@HashBandicoot356they also recovered Vhagar’s remains, they threw Aemond’s back in the lake.

  • @raechelcleberg8854
    @raechelcleberg8854 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Haelena reminds me of the cursed seer of Greek myth, Cassandra. No one believed her prophecies either, just thought her crazy.

    • @t-rexcellentreviews1663
      @t-rexcellentreviews1663 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cassandra of Troy was one of her inspirations according to the show writers.

    • @raechelcleberg8854
      @raechelcleberg8854 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@t-rexcellentreviews1663 No surprise there.

    • @blackiesun
      @blackiesun 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cassandra was cursed not to be believed.

  • @DominikWenzel-jk2mu
    @DominikWenzel-jk2mu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    Aemond Targaryen is the only one tha twho has taken Queen Helaena's prophecy seriously since they were children

    • @petrstanovsky7648
      @petrstanovsky7648 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Yeah, it is interesting how different and more focused she sound with him.

    • @DominikWenzel-jk2mu
      @DominikWenzel-jk2mu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@petrstanovsky7648 they both are closer and He Take her Prophecy seriously, He belives in her that is why He is hurt as she Refuse

    • @petrstanovsky7648
      @petrstanovsky7648 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@DominikWenzel-jk2mu Yes, and she hurt him, because she don't want be forced to violence, actress confirmed that. But I also think she feel some affection towards Aegon and can't just forgive Aemond his evil acts.

    • @ileking
      @ileking หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@petrstanovsky7648I think burning Aegon was the final straw for giving up on Aemond. I know Aegon somehow mocked him in the past which is bad but he doesn’t deserve being burnt from such height fighting a war Aemond, Alicient and Otto started.

  • @petrstanovsky7648
    @petrstanovsky7648 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    This is so amazing scene, Phia Saban steals the show. She is seeing all the story of the Dance in her dreams. The end of the war, that she will never meet Aegon again, but at least she can see him succeed and return to place where she just stand now with Aemond. And that makes her happy, because Helaena probably liked Aegon in a way. She also see Rhaenyra will became monster next season and that monster will cost her death, but accept the terms, because avoid it wouldn't change anything. And that her death will ultimately bring defeat of Rhaenyra, death of Dreamfyre and other dragons and victory of her husband/brother. All that you could imagine said in that little smirk in her eyes, Phia Saban is queen of acting.

    • @joshthaller4754
      @joshthaller4754 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Depressing part for her/greens is that the victory if hollow, because he only has the throne for a very small time before the Blacks win and put Rhaenyra son on the iron throne. Though this does make me happy as I am team black all the way.

    • @petrstanovsky7648
      @petrstanovsky7648 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@joshthaller4754 Im not really team green, Im more like fan of Aegon at this point. For me he lost so much and got so much wrecked by everyone, that destiny really owes him and he should succeed at least a little bit. True tragedy is, that he will pay for his short-lived victory brutal price.
      But I see fact his line won't continue as good, because it would mean that Otto succeed and Otto didn't deserved that after everything he did. On the other side Rhaenyra, entitled and irresponsible princess choosen as heir just to Daemon didn't became king, don't deserve to win and rule, because with her original plan to put Strong bastards on the throne she would eventually start another civil war, probably between her sons with Daemon and Strong boys.
      Anyway her line should take a throne, as they are choosen line of succession. For me ending of the dance is good compromise, Aegon could defeat Rhaenyra, but line of Otto didn't end up on throne.

  • @EmilyLM99
    @EmilyLM99 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    See in these moments it’s sad, because you can tell he is scared, like yes he killed Luke but they had already crowned Aegon and usurped the throne, the war had started. Aemond didn’t start the war, but he did ensure it couldn’t turn back, and he is totally alone, he is quite similar to Loki in that regard that he always ends up alone and looking to be the villain, when he is solely trying to protect himself and his family, tragic story lines.

    • @m8trxd
      @m8trxd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "... spools of green and black, weaving dragons of thread...." or something like that

    • @squiggleworks9
      @squiggleworks9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠​⁠@@m8trxdhand turns loom = Otto. He doomed his family from the start

    • @t-rexcellentreviews1663
      @t-rexcellentreviews1663 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Considering he just torched an entire town of innocent people with his dragon solely because he was pissed about being forced to retreat from Dragonstone, he doesn’t deserve any pity at this point.

    • @shamimaaphiri963
      @shamimaaphiri963 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@t-rexcellentreviews1663Yup like Danny did at Kings Landing because 1 person killed her friend, killing the innocent is in their blood.

  • @syedrahilsiddiq1293
    @syedrahilsiddiq1293 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Halaena bribes daemon to kill aemond ... did no one see this

    • @petrstanovsky7648
      @petrstanovsky7648 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I did, you are right about that.

    • @syedrahilsiddiq1293
      @syedrahilsiddiq1293 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@petrstanovsky7648 bro nobody did look at the comments

    • @GallowayJesse
      @GallowayJesse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      as daemon needs bribing

  • @okolona1
    @okolona1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    She was prophesizing. Gods Eye. That lake in the island

  • @danielnemesio3388
    @danielnemesio3388 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Remember how subtle Game of Thrones used to be with their prophecies? How none of the characters felt like they were slaves for the story? How they didn't need to rob the characters of their agency to progress the plot?

  • @forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964
    @forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

    Completely forgave Daemon for having her son butchered.

    • @petrstanovsky7648
      @petrstanovsky7648 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      Is she? Looks more like she is sending him to death while killing other person responsible for Jahaerys death.

    • @aleksanderbrycki4258
      @aleksanderbrycki4258 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      She is not sending him she just see his future

    • @reyagu4607
      @reyagu4607 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Doesn’t sound like forgiveness to me she’s literally telling them they are not that important and they Are gonna die

    • @adreanneramsey6507
      @adreanneramsey6507 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes because she said I forgive you. When did this happen. Just cause she said a few words to him about a Prophecy lol. She's a dreamer. She probably already knew he was going to die. If you watch the show.

    • @zizojaezekeom3565
      @zizojaezekeom3565 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Omg you're so slow 😂 so talking to the person who killed your son is forgiving them?

  • @irubberyouglueonethousand5384
    @irubberyouglueonethousand5384 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This is all Otto’s fault

  • @LINX29X92
    @LINX29X92 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    She should have never told him that. Now Aemond will plan to take them all with him.

    • @t-rexcellentreviews1663
      @t-rexcellentreviews1663 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      It wouldn’t change anything, in fact, it will most likely only make it more certain, Aemond sealed his own fate the moment he chose to seal Luke’s.

    • @user-dx2dm8oq8g
      @user-dx2dm8oq8g 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Aemond will eventually have to face Daemon, he has the biggest dragon so it's unavoidable.

  • @bluephoenix6322
    @bluephoenix6322 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    She's the three eyes raven

    • @elefantbajstvatusen8625
      @elefantbajstvatusen8625 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I'm sure she is, to normies who don't read books.

    • @bluephoenix6322
      @bluephoenix6322 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elefantbajstvatusen8625 And clearly not to the weirdos who like to call others normies to hide their insecure abnormalities .

    • @bluephoenix6322
      @bluephoenix6322 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elefantbajstvatusen8625 I'll just take your word for it since your abnormalities make you so very special like a snowflake.
      Do try not getting angry though.
      Wouldn't mind you melting away with the slightest of heat... You know what nevermind rage away and fade away
      Begone evil

    • @SergioMendoza760
      @SergioMendoza760 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@elefantbajstvatusen8625she’s not. That’s Bryden rivers in the books, who is blooddraven, someone who is generations removed from this conflict. You clearly didn’t read the books because everything you said was just blatantly wrong.

    • @elefantbajstvatusen8625
      @elefantbajstvatusen8625 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SergioMendoza760Kind of rich of you to say I don't read books when you can't even understand a single sentence; I just said she's not the three-eyed raven.

  • @c_0910_K
    @c_0910_K 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    It's really good when they redefined Helaena's role in the show.
    Because in the book, she's the least exciting, least interesting looking, depressed and died.
    But in the show, she started slow and suddenly she has this Bran + Melisandre magic. The only only only bad thing is she didn't get to ride that majestic royal dragon Dreamfyre

  • @hera7884
    @hera7884 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Helaena has always been my favorite. Ever since I heard the story she has had my heart.

  • @thejoeschmoshow
    @thejoeschmoshow หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love that Helena got this moment but how are her visions suddenly clear when before she would just babble random words.

    • @locqueenvibez9415
      @locqueenvibez9415 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Prophetic gifts are like that. Sometimes you speak in parables, other times it comes together out right.

    • @Mcherri
      @Mcherri หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They probably are clear to her in her head but when she tries to tell someone the future it seems all jumbled.

    • @cmo9400
      @cmo9400 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      babble random words? beware the beast beneath floorboards? He'll have to close an eye...if she had muttered that to herself...she would have muttered "you'll be swallowed up in the God's eye and never seen again."

  • @PerfectlyImperfect93
    @PerfectlyImperfect93 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Aemond was so desperate 😂 that’s what happens when you think you’re the smartest person in the council .

  • @horsingwithhugo
    @horsingwithhugo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    She said what she said, brother.

  • @alfrestark9640
    @alfrestark9640 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    She is beatiful

  • @couldbecooked6662
    @couldbecooked6662 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    best scene of the finale

  • @MikePark-v9c
    @MikePark-v9c 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shes so innocent it's almost hilarious shes like a doll😅

  • @hopegalloway578
    @hopegalloway578 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Aemond threatens Helaena
    Helaena encouraged Daemon to kill him via magic tree and turned around , refused to help and effectively let Aemond die.
    Also almost… forgives/accepts daemon. She wasn’t a vision . She was real.

  • @stoopid_rapper7174
    @stoopid_rapper7174 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This maybe unpopular but hear me out
    If Aemond would've kidnapped Heleana at this time and flown with her atop vhagar her dragon would've no choice but follow. VHAGAR is large enough
    As for the battle her dragon would simply follow instict and start burning mfs.

  • @MiriamW9
    @MiriamW9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    she is my fav character and shes the raider of my fav dragon, can we please see more of her, and of her riding dreamfyre?

    • @zizojaezekeom3565
      @zizojaezekeom3565 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We will never see her ride her dragon unfortunately

    • @MiriamW9
      @MiriamW9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @zizojaezekeom3565 they saved money by doing it like that, but in the books helaenas fav thing to do is riding dreamfyre

  • @ausar3852
    @ausar3852 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Its soo stupid that She guides and even encourages the killer of her son to the path in which she and her brother will die... and refuses the same brothere that is trying to prevent and save them all... and for what ? We all saw white walkers to be bs. So all this makes no sense whatsoever...

    • @t-rexcellentreviews1663
      @t-rexcellentreviews1663 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@ausar3852 Helaena has simply accepted that certain things will happen now, regardless of whatever she says or does.

    • @ausar3852
      @ausar3852 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@t-rexcellentreviews1663 that is stupid and you know it... 3 eyed raven can change and alternate future we saq this... she has powers of 3 eyed raven and so she can change the outcomes

    • @jesperlaugesen3609
      @jesperlaugesen3609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@ausar3852 She ain't a green seer, she's having dragon dreams. Green Seers can preceive the past, present, future and as seen in GoT influence them in some minor aspects while you can only see the future in dragon dreams which are unchangeable.
      Dragon Dreams are basically the only reason that House Targaryen survived as the last Dragon Lord House when the Doom of Valyria came.

    • @e-bo9115
      @e-bo9115 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jesperlaugesen3609 We don't know if thats true. It's a story from long ago. The targs could have caused the doom, and left the scene.
      Her being a robot with no emotions is boring.

    • @MattyCamachio
      @MattyCamachio 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@t-rexcellentreviews1663if she accepts things and nothing matters, then why is she encouraging Daemon if the ink is already dry? They’re using her as a plot device with no emotions and now we know why they didn’t let her grieve her child’s death because they wanted Daemon to look like a hero

  • @darkswordstudios2778
    @darkswordstudios2778 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I like how now if we have poorly writing subplots we can just say it’s a story and all is forgiven and explained

  • @lordfreerealestate8302
    @lordfreerealestate8302 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So what happened to the romance between them in s1? Its like the writers forgot it.

    • @politecat9207
      @politecat9207 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      There was no romance between Aemond and Helaena.

    • @mirceadacialorantbrescia4340
      @mirceadacialorantbrescia4340 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      what romance? you are watching tiktok videos too much

    • @anjelica948
      @anjelica948 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They never really had a romance. I think Aemond had a soft affection for Helaena, bc he too felt strange and disconnected from the rest of his family and siblings. Helaena bc she had strange dreams she couldn’t understand, and Aemond bc he struggled to bond with a dragon until his early teens, unlike his siblings who all bonded their dragons very young. But I don’t think there was ever real, romantic connection between them.
      I do wish the writers had spent time exploring their connection a bit more though. It’d of been nice to see Helaena have genuine support after the Blood and Cheese incident.

    • @RachelTupatrona
      @RachelTupatrona 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Girl what romance

  • @noqueq9003
    @noqueq9003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Music at the end?

  • @mariandrade5022
    @mariandrade5022 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    IT WOULDN’T CHANCE ANYTHING

  • @sankarkrishnan407
    @sankarkrishnan407 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think they had a good rekation before the war. Now it's broken. Now Daemon was convinced of her prophetic skill and Aemond also.

  • @HugoFeunoyr91
    @HugoFeunoyr91 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Helaena Targaryen the most powerfull dreamer of the dynasty lady and gentlemen

    • @shunydelice4405
      @shunydelice4405 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Her, and Daenys the Dreamer (who prophesied the Doom of Valyria) of course

    • @HugoFeunoyr91
      @HugoFeunoyr91 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @shunydelice4405 I agree ;)

    • @zizojaezekeom3565
      @zizojaezekeom3565 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      She's not in the books so she's not the most powerful daenys who saved everyone is the strongest she interpreted the vision of the doom perfectly and years before it even happened, daenerys is a dreamer in the books too and so is aegon the "conqueror"

    • @antomedelp_4175
      @antomedelp_4175 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Helaena has accomplished next to nothing with her visions. Daenys is the true GOAT

    • @aleksandraolech1967
      @aleksandraolech1967 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      She is pathetic plot device, nothing more

  • @shamimaaphiri963
    @shamimaaphiri963 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just cannot bring myself to hate Aemond i despised Joeffret and Ramsay even Aegon but Aemond i just can't I feel he has been misunderstood all hos life his mother hardly paid him any attention and his brother always teased him 😔 so he had to build himself into this ruthless villian even though what he has done others have done too plus we can't blame him all this was Alicent doing if she had just kept her mouth shut about Viserys changing his mind which was a lie or mis interpretation by her the kingdoms would not be at war. MAYBE Aemond would have just taken Lukes eye and call it equal.

  • @DoubleAIV
    @DoubleAIV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I dont see how Halaena is seen as "good" in this scene.. forgiving and helping the murderer of your son? Proclaiming the one who you know abuses other women as king? Declaring that your brother will die? Aemond shows much more restrain than me... Shed be Vhaegar bbq if that were me.

    • @petrstanovsky7648
      @petrstanovsky7648 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      You don't understand anything. She isn't helping Daemon, she is helping him to grave knowing he will take Aemond with him, so both people responsible for Jahaerys dies. Of course she sees Aegon as king, it's her brother/husband, father of her children and unlike Alicent, Helaena knows meaning of word loyalty. And she didn't say it to torn Aemond, only to scare him so he won't force her to violence. And she doesn't see things she wants, she can't change the future and her dreams. Aemond has closest bond from family with her, that's also why she speaks to so openly and don't hide herself.

    • @zizojaezekeom3565
      @zizojaezekeom3565 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tell me your dumb without telling ne your dumb is your comment 😂😂

  • @Raynzia
    @Raynzia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its all a story............

  • @august1763
    @august1763 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Get'em!!!

  • @senyuri7496
    @senyuri7496 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aegon sits on a wooden throne? Clearly she does not mean that he will be king of the seven kingdoms then, right?

    • @ctm2725
      @ctm2725 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He literally sit on a wooden throne after killing rhaenyra.

    • @aahanashrivastaa
      @aahanashrivastaa หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He's paralysed. He can't use his legs so it's a wooden wheelchair

    • @zizojaezekeom3565
      @zizojaezekeom3565 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well rhaenyra was queen for a few months and aegon for two years so both didn't become the ruler, rhaenyra should've been but yeah grrm tends to be tragic in his writing

  • @unclephillymya
    @unclephillymya 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Tbh I hope Dreamfyre and Haelena run away from all of this
    (Leave alicent)

  • @jjs1300000
    @jjs1300000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Aemond deserves better.

    • @t-rexcellentreviews1663
      @t-rexcellentreviews1663 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Maybe he did, but not anymore, not after everything he’s done.

    • @fluffehpancakes1102
      @fluffehpancakes1102 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      tell that to Sharppoint, lil bro's gone mad

    • @BleedingGrafitti
      @BleedingGrafitti 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      No he doesn't. He's a psycho who will soon pull a mad Daenerys and take his hissy fit out on millions of innocent people.

    • @zizojaezekeom3565
      @zizojaezekeom3565 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He didn't and never did

  • @joshthaller4754
    @joshthaller4754 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Though she is wrong about Ageon having victory, for in the long run and big pictures the Blacks win the war and their bloodline continues to form the Dragon Queen

    • @ElectricHyenas
      @ElectricHyenas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      No, she is not wrong. Regardless of what happens in the long-run, she specifically says, "Aegon will be king again. He's yet to see victory." Both of Helena's statements here are true.

    • @danika9411
      @danika9411 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@ElectricHyenas Yes. And Rhaenyra was never seen as Queen. In history she is the usurper. So both sides win an loose in the end. Rhaenyra was never officially queen, but some of her children survive. Aegon is remembered as king, but his line dies.

    • @ctm2725
      @ctm2725 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@danika9411 And that is poetic and phyrric victory. Aegon may win the throne but Rhaenyra's bloodline managed to continue the targaryen dynasty.

    • @aahanashrivastaa
      @aahanashrivastaa หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Aegon is king again, and his victory we know from GoT when Joffrey tells Sansa of how Rhaenyra was killed by her brother.

    • @ksmith4712
      @ksmith4712 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Rhaenyra's Son Aegon the younger, married Helena's daughter, the surviving twin, so both of their bloodlines continue to Daenerys.

  • @JesseTate
    @JesseTate 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    ugggh how the writing went downhill

  • @adventureswithkat3884
    @adventureswithkat3884 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ….sits on a wooden throne…. That’s Jon!

  • @queenxx1690
    @queenxx1690 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dream didn't make us kings dragons did-Daemon s1 ...he kinda forgot in s2 that he was suppose not believe in properties

    • @anjelica948
      @anjelica948 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, it’s called character growth. That’s what characters are supposed to do- they’re supposed to grow and evolve over time when they learn new information.