Fantastic video and car! I have owned a 1986 Turbo for almost 20 years and it is one of the best all around sports cars ever made in my opinion. They are quite reliable and robust if maintained. Simply a fantastic and beautifully balanced package. They are also very pretty to look at.
I have been driving a 944 Turbo S silver rose for more than 25 years. And it's simply fun. Beautiful design, good road holding with hard suspension, good sound. Only my good old Landrover 109II from 1970 offers the same amount of fun (but not the speed)...
Such an awesome car, I've got a 924 luxe with 40k miles on the clock and two owners completely stock, Its the 2L NA but it's a little gem I couldn't careless that "it's not a 911" it's an excellent machine, would love to own a 944 turbo some day
I've always loved the 944 (Turbo S best of all), since I nearly wrote off my boss's 944 as a young whippersnapper. As the story was a learning lesson to me I'll tell it. My boss asked me to move his car. He'd parked it against the flow of traffic on Deansgate Manchester. It was a rainy day and trying to get out of the space took about 5 very stressful minutes. When I got round to the railway arch lockup I found a car transporter blocking access whilst it was being unloaded. I sat there like a typical 22 year old listening to the fruity exhaust note as I blipped the throttle. Suddenly there was a tap on the window and a friend from work jumped into the passenger seat egging me on to take him for a spin. In a moment of weakness I gave in and blasted the car past the air and space museum at maximum attack. The joyride culminated at a roundabout behind the Granada studios tour. I went in way too hot, booted the thottle to get the back round and time started to slow down...I'd lost control, run out of opposite lock and was looking out of the passenger window as we slithered sideways round the entire roundabout. I noticed other drivers waiting to get on the the roundabout open mouthed at the sight of this 944 going sideways over my passengers grimacing face as he hung on to the car in terror. My saving grace was that the roundabout was on quite a steep incline and gravity slowed me down just enough to gain control back after a full 360 degree navigation. The lock came off and the car wiggled a couple of times before we were leaving on the same road we'd entered. The car was silent for a few seconds before my friend said....'that....was awesome...I thought we were going to die for a second!'...I laughed it off and blagged him that I was in control at all times...he did wonder why I drove back to the lockup at 25mph though! 😄 As I parked the 944 in the lockup I got out and kissed the roof, the combination of luck and a nicely balanced chassis had saved my job and possibly my life. My boss never knew...so if you're reading this Pete...sorry. 😬😁
All 1989 944 Turbo models were also built to the same performance specs as the 1988 944 Turbo S. The only difference was in 1989 it came with both driver and passenger airbags and could be fully optioned with heated leather seats and the removable sun roof. Unfortunately the performance enhancements were just too threatening to the 911 Turbo. It had better handling, was faster and had a higher top speed, so the Porsche executives killed it, suppressed the performance figures and dumbed down the performance in future years to keep the focus on the rear engine heritage / brand of the 911. The '88 944 Turbo S and '89 944 Turbo are EXTREMELY rare in the US. Most have been gutted and converted into track cars and ultimately wrecked. Good luck even finding an all original one for sale with less than 100k miles.....
It's all we've been waiting for! I was just subscribed to your channel around a week ago and have been watching your video every single day, i was just watching your best car that's ls600h when i notice that you just uploaded this!
That's YOU told then... (the naughty corner awaits) 😂 p.s. Like you I was eagerly awaiting a driving piece to camera about why this particular car would be an excellent candidate for the 'classic' spot on James' driveway.
Get your hands on the right one of those and I reckon it'll be a very good investment... Provided it doesn't send you broke keeping it in good order. Obviously that can be said of any classic car, but 80s Germans seem to have a special appetite for slow and steady erosion of one's toy box funds.
I had a couple 924 cars back in the day. They drove well but weren't treated as real Porsches. I should have bought a 912 for a bit more money but enjoyed the heaters in the winter. As they moved to 944, the car got more refined, ending up with the 968 with a 3.0l 4-cyl. and a turbo.
Whats missing on this car is the targa removable roof. Used to love that on my 944 S2. Granted mine did not have turbo, but it had no problem to get to a speed of 240 km/hour on the autobahn as new Audi TT's were trying to shake me off...
James did I miss the joke?!?! If ever there was a biast video which was just a plug for a car you are going to sell this would be it 🤣 Nice motor, look forward to your next vid 👍
I had one of these for 6 years and it was a great fun car very reliable and a pleasure to drive. The headlights are rubbish so spirited driving in the dark difficult. As with all my past cars I sold this for a fraction of it’s worth now if only I had storage
As an owner of a 1988 944 Turbo S Silver Rose (full option with targa roof), i can confirm that this car is just brilliant. I'll surely never sell that car ! Price did increase quite a bit in the last 3/5 years, but certainly is still the beginning....
I had one of these back in 1988. It was a fun car to drive. I've been a bit confused though by some Turbo S cars having the Turbo S emblems on the back hatch just below the spoiler and some only having the Turbo emblem but still claiming to be a Turbo S. Which is the correct configuration? Mine only had the Turbo emblem but I bought it new as a turbo S in 1988.
As always, thanks for a very nice and detailed review of the car! I want to add one thing though. When the taxi driver, the guy flipping burgers at the corner and now one of my favourite car shows starts giving you trading tips.. I feel we are not terribly far from the event horizon of a pretty big correction. I hope I’m wrong, but that add in the beginning felt awkward coming from this forum.
Totally agree. Nearly as bad as watching Behind The Glass recently promoting a Bitcoin trading site. I’d be more comfortable if James had come on screen smoking and promoting Marlboro...
I had a Japanese import Silver Rose. The garage described it as a remarkable example. I had to sell it for £6k when I was broke back in the day. 'Ingrid' is still in my thoughts. It was like new, until some prat valet used alloy cleaner on magnesium wheels when I said DON'T!!! I sold it to a guy called Mr Koch. He said in your country my name is very funny. Took him for lunch as he'd come from Friesland in the Netherlands to pick my girl up. Even the engine looked like new.
Lovely car some factual errors though! 👍 The later model turbos had the same upgrades as the turbo s so the silver rose isn't such a special thing I'm afraid. Porsche made an awful lot of the 1989-1991 250 turbos with the limited slip, gearbox cooler etc... Got a 1990 myself, they are great fun as you pointed out in your videos especially on twisty b roads!
not quite, the later models didn't have the M030 suspension pack nor did they have the CS wheels. And the very original proper silver rose with the plaid interior is actualy special because of the fact that there are not that many around...
@@Farlig69 Fair point, if a car is still running the original M030 today I would say they are long past their best! General consensus in the main groups I am a member of is that the Bilstein B6 Sport dampers are the best replacements. Standard front struts can be modified to take the Bilstein damper insert (a height adjust collar and spring platform can also be added at same time). My general point is that the late model turbos are just as nice as the Silver Rose and any "special" items on the Rose are negated by the age of the cars nowadays.
Much better than any rear engine Porsche. The reason --- much easier to maintain and to me a more advanced way of producing a well engineered car than the VW Beetle(ish) rear engined Porsche. 928 also very good.
any plans to modify? these really respond well to turbo and intake/exhaust upgrades. I have a 3.5" (much better than the typical 3") mandrel bent exhaust, and A Borgwarner EFR turbo (thats like an Iphone compared to the KKK-k26 being an old flip phone). has breathed new life into the car (and with the MAF intake conversion literally sounds like a jet taking off when it spools up!, and almost eliminated the lag)
James. I am a subscriber and love your videos. Many of your car choices resonate with me. But your promo of your sponsor in this video is off-putting. Many will expect and accept that you should be remunerated for your huge efforts in making your videos. It is ok to say, "Today's clip is sponsored by XYZ" and get on with the review but not one minute and eight seconds of promoting your sponsor. Don't mean to offend but to offer constructive feedback. Apologies if you think otherwise.
Sixty seconds is actually reasonably standard for what is called an "integration". These are unfortunately increasingly necessary as TH-cam seeks to reduce the ad revenue that comes to us. I work very hard to try and strike a balance between viewer enjoyment, and being able to make a living for myself. I do take all feedback on board and am constantly trying to strike that perfect balance.
I suspect turbo S-prices will go up a little more now :-). I noticed that even good non-turbo-944's aren't the bargains they used to be only a few years ago, but as you say: for the quality of the cars for sale, that could mean good things.
I watched one of these sell for $1,300 at auction--Everyone, including myself, knew we were making a mistake not buying it but the unknowns for reliability were too high. Regret it now for sure.
It is indeed a nice car and one of our colleges lets his nice black one rotting away on the backyard. He don`t wants to sell it but he is also not making it ready to run. Hope one day he will change his mind.
Fine cars, but dont discount the later models, they carried over the important parts and could be had in a wider range of colours with slightly updated interiors. The 'bridge spoiler' models were produced in even fewer numbers.
@JayEmm, curious why you call this car a Turbo S when it doesn't have an S anywhere on it? It appears to be an '89 Turbo, no? Maybe I'm missing something!
@@JayEmmOnCars well it turns out I was told lies for years! You are totally correct! While I have seen in-person several 944 Turbo S with an S badge, they are all fake. My father even had one. You may continue being my most trusted TH-camr :)
I would say this should satisfy your desire for your next car to be a “classic”. But. I’ll wager that your inner petrol head is saying “Since this was basically FREE, that means I will be able to afford TWO classics!”
These were very popular and there are tons of them still out there, as well as a very active user community. I don't remember who did the Audi five, but someone definitely has put in almost every engine you can imagine.
I saw a piece recently by Jason Cammisa on Hagerty (love his videos there) and he said they considered the Audi 5 but I think balance issues put it out of contention
@@JayEmmOnCars I see you have chosen death by technicalities. ;). Maybe it was a Volvo five cylinder. I know a guy here in Montréal who converted in a TDI engine to a base model, to make a frankencruiser.
Neighbour of mine had a 944 Turbo that was continually blowing head gaskets. That engine (and the related V8) being open deck block really didn't help.
Rust buckets if one doesn’t have a garage. Yes all old cars are susceptible to the elements but the 944 is particularly so. It’ll disintegrate in no time if left outside.
As someone else said Porsche has been fully galvanizing all their cars from 1975 and forwards, so they dont really rust unless theres been previous accident damage.
@@admiralfloofz658 nonsense. Galvanised steel is not a forevermore application….after 30-50 years it’s protection breaks down and will rust. That timeframe can be expedited not by a car accident but simply exposure to the elements and trapped water. I respect your conviction in your reply but you are wrong, but appreciate your response. Best regards
@@julian987r4 Galvanization doesnt just break down, you are the one thats wrong. Ive had 5 of these cars and Ive daily driven them for years, in winter and in snow. They shouldnt rust, and mine havent rusted. The only way they rust is if you grind away the galvinzation. Like for example the Turbo and the S2 had a plastic strip at the bottom of the sill, its common for dirt to get trapped between that and the body thus grinding away at the paint and eventually goes throu the galvinazation and rust starts to form. I had an 86 Turbo with 150k miles on it that had been daily driven and fairly abused for a long time back when they were cheap. Took it apart and turned it into a racecar, so I stripped all of the undercoating from it and there was no rust at all, only some surfacerust on some corners that you could just grind down to bare metal. No car made of steel is immune to rust. But 944s and other Porsches are amoung the most resistant to rust of all cars made in the 80s.
As I have this car for longer than my usual review cars, I decided to break up the different topics rather than trying to force everything into one huge video. So there's gonna be a first drive, a buyer's guide, etc etc
I had a 951 (944 turbo) lovley little handling car however its being a let down on the engine deparment coulpe with that loooong ratio gearing making the drive train somewhat underwhelming, also the steering is not so great and it cannot be adjusted at all! but what made me sold this porshce is the high running costs of parts and labour.
Given you mention more nuanced content James, it would be good that you label this video for what it is. It was quite confusing nit seeing you drive the car. Still great as usual but just confusing. All the best
@@tomstirling2882 Non targa cars are incredibly rare so it kind of is. I had an 86 Turbo without the targa roof, Ive had 4 others after that and they all had targa roofs.
Fantastic video and car! I have owned a 1986 Turbo for almost 20 years and it is one of the best all around sports cars ever made in my opinion. They are quite reliable and robust if maintained. Simply a fantastic and beautifully balanced package. They are also very pretty to look at.
I have been driving a 944 Turbo S silver rose for more than 25 years. And it's simply fun. Beautiful design, good road holding with hard suspension, good sound.
Only my good old Landrover 109II from 1970 offers the same amount of fun (but not the speed)...
Such an awesome car, I've got a 924 luxe with 40k miles on the clock and two owners completely stock, Its the 2L NA but it's a little gem I couldn't careless that "it's not a 911" it's an excellent machine, would love to own a 944 turbo some day
I drove one in period and it is indeed a fine sports car. Great balance, good steering, and decent brakes.
Would love to have one now.
In period ..... Lol
I've always loved the 944 (Turbo S best of all), since I nearly wrote off my boss's 944 as a young whippersnapper. As the story was a learning lesson to me I'll tell it.
My boss asked me to move his car. He'd parked it against the flow of traffic on Deansgate Manchester. It was a rainy day and trying to get out of the space took about 5 very stressful minutes. When I got round to the railway arch lockup I found a car transporter blocking access whilst it was being unloaded. I sat there like a typical 22 year old listening to the fruity exhaust note as I blipped the throttle. Suddenly there was a tap on the window and a friend from work jumped into the passenger seat egging me on to take him for a spin. In a moment of weakness I gave in and blasted the car past the air and space museum at maximum attack. The joyride culminated at a roundabout behind the Granada studios tour. I went in way too hot, booted the thottle to get the back round and time started to slow down...I'd lost control, run out of opposite lock and was looking out of the passenger window as we slithered sideways round the entire roundabout. I noticed other drivers waiting to get on the the roundabout open mouthed at the sight of this 944 going sideways over my passengers grimacing face as he hung on to the car in terror. My saving grace was that the roundabout was on quite a steep incline and gravity slowed me down just enough to gain control back after a full 360 degree navigation. The lock came off and the car wiggled a couple of times before we were leaving on the same road we'd entered. The car was silent for a few seconds before my friend said....'that....was awesome...I thought we were going to die for a second!'...I laughed it off and blagged him that I was in control at all times...he did wonder why I drove back to the lockup at 25mph though! 😄
As I parked the 944 in the lockup I got out and kissed the roof, the combination of luck and a nicely balanced chassis had saved my job and possibly my life.
My boss never knew...so if you're reading this Pete...sorry. 😬😁
Great story! I will spare you mine, but it involved an Audi A4 with a run down a big bridge, and M4 pushing an easy 140. God speed.
@@ricksmith959
Talk about leaving me in suspense?! 😁
A good friend had one of these in college, it had the plaid interior, we had a great time with it! Good examples are pretty pricey in the US.
I always find myself veering off to Pistonheads or Classic Cars for Sale whenever I watch Jays videos😎
All 1989 944 Turbo models were also built to the same performance specs as the 1988 944 Turbo S. The only difference was in 1989 it came with both driver and passenger airbags and could be fully optioned with heated leather seats and the removable sun roof. Unfortunately the performance enhancements were just too threatening to the 911 Turbo. It had better handling, was faster and had a higher top speed, so the Porsche executives killed it, suppressed the performance figures and dumbed down the performance in future years to keep the focus on the rear engine heritage / brand of the 911. The '88 944 Turbo S and '89 944 Turbo are EXTREMELY rare in the US. Most have been gutted and converted into track cars and ultimately wrecked. Good luck even finding an all original one for sale with less than 100k miles.....
They kept the Turbo in Canada until 1991. Only change was an added rear wing
You’re so damn right. All 1989 944 turbos are actually turbo S .
It's all we've been waiting for! I was just subscribed to your channel around a week ago and have been watching your video every single day, i was just watching your best car that's ls600h when i notice that you just uploaded this!
What happened to the in-car driving shots and the sound shots? Did they accidently wind up "on the cutting room floor"?
This is not a review piece. Plenty of videos with those coming
That's YOU told then... (the naughty corner awaits) 😂
p.s. Like you I was eagerly awaiting a driving piece to camera about why this particular car would be an excellent candidate for the 'classic' spot on James' driveway.
Get your hands on the right one of those and I reckon it'll be a very good investment... Provided it doesn't send you broke keeping it in good order.
Obviously that can be said of any classic car, but 80s Germans seem to have a special appetite for slow and steady erosion of one's toy box funds.
The 924, 944 and 928 where the best cars Porsche every made.
I recognise my chubby face in the drive by’s… lovely car and surprisingly swift for an old timer.
350Nm of torque for a ~1200Kg car...
Beauty is certainly in the eye of the beholder, I still love the look of the 928, both are certainly of their era though.
Mr Lawrence stroll must have made wonders if Aston is bringing investors in nowadays
Pretty sure they don't advise to do novelty investments 🤣
This video made me want one 🙈 I love love live the stuff from the 80's as a long time e30 BMW owner 😎😎
Great video - what a classic !!!
That Turbo decal is sooo good. This car in yellow would make my eyes pop out of my skull.
Agreed. I’ve never been a huge fan of yellow cars, unless it’s a yellow Porsche.
Very nice and professional review, thanks Jay for looking at the affordable cars we common mortals can attain.
My dad had the Turbo SE when I was a kid. Probably one of the few cars he wished he’d kept. Looks ace and come back full cool imo
A gorgeous classic
I had a couple 924 cars back in the day. They drove well but weren't treated as real Porsches. I should have bought a 912 for a bit more money but enjoyed the heaters in the winter. As they moved to 944, the car got more refined, ending up with the 968 with a 3.0l 4-cyl. and a turbo.
I love my 924 Turbo. It's as rare as this Silver Rose and has all that exciting turbo lag with 70's / 80's styling.
I had a 924s with the 2.5 engine from 944.good car.well balanced.
Imagine if AMG two door cars had rear engines. They would be way too expensive now
So the AMG Emira should sell well ;)
Spotted you yesterday going up Ballingdon Hill, and again today in the Farrari. Great content!
Whats missing on this car is the targa removable roof. Used to love that on my 944 S2. Granted mine did not have turbo, but it had no problem to get to a speed of 240 km/hour on the autobahn as new Audi TT's were trying to shake me off...
Awesome car. Looking forward to more videos with it. Keep up the good work.
An often overlooked beauty.
Wish I'd never sold my 89 F plate 944S2. Beautiful car.
James did I miss the joke?!?! If ever there was a biast video which was just a plug for a car you are going to sell this would be it 🤣
Nice motor, look forward to your next vid 👍
Fantastic car. One of my mates had one - Black. It was superb. He ended up selling it for more than he paid for it a few years ago.
I thought it was someone else's review, I missed the usual funky shirt
The usual shirt was in the boot, did you miss it ??
Great vid mate! Outro music tho 😭😭
I had one of these for 6 years and it was a great fun car very reliable and a pleasure to drive. The headlights are rubbish so spirited driving in the dark difficult. As with all my past cars I sold this for a fraction of it’s worth now if only I had storage
Headlights can be fixed with an uprated wiring loom, loads of them for sale on eBay for £20 or so. Got one in mine.
Very good video
This is jayemm on Cars at its best 👍
As an owner of a 1988 944 Turbo S Silver Rose (full option with targa roof), i can confirm that this car is just brilliant. I'll surely never sell that car !
Price did increase quite a bit in the last 3/5 years, but certainly is still the beginning....
Nice video. Regular 944 Turbos from 1989 on had same specifications as the turbo s
Good to see your 944 back Jay - I wondered where it had gone - is it a keeper ?
I had one of these back in 1988. It was a fun car to drive. I've been a bit confused though by some Turbo S cars having the Turbo S emblems on the back hatch just below the spoiler and some only having the Turbo emblem but still claiming to be a Turbo S. Which is the correct configuration? Mine only had the Turbo emblem but I bought it new as a turbo S in 1988.
As always, thanks for a very nice and detailed review of the car!
I want to add one thing though. When the taxi driver, the guy flipping burgers at the corner and now one of my favourite car shows starts giving you trading tips.. I feel we are not terribly far from the event horizon of a pretty big correction. I hope I’m wrong, but that add in the beginning felt awkward coming from this forum.
Totally agree. Nearly as bad as watching Behind The Glass recently promoting a Bitcoin trading site. I’d be more comfortable if James had come on screen smoking and promoting Marlboro...
Stunning car and great review... Just got to do the 924! 🙌
Another great review Jay. More like this!
I had a Japanese import Silver Rose. The garage described it as a remarkable example. I had to sell it for £6k when I was broke back in the day. 'Ingrid' is still in my thoughts. It was like new, until some prat valet used alloy cleaner on magnesium wheels when I said DON'T!!! I sold it to a guy called Mr Koch. He said in your country my name is very funny. Took him for lunch as he'd come from Friesland in the Netherlands to pick my girl up. Even the engine looked like new.
I bought a horse from a Friesland
Lovely car some factual errors though! 👍 The later model turbos had the same upgrades as the turbo s so the silver rose isn't such a special thing I'm afraid. Porsche made an awful lot of the 1989-1991 250 turbos with the limited slip, gearbox cooler etc... Got a 1990 myself, they are great fun as you pointed out in your videos especially on twisty b roads!
not quite, the later models didn't have the M030 suspension pack nor did they have the CS wheels. And the very original proper silver rose with the plaid interior is actualy special because of the fact that there are not that many around...
@@Farlig69 Fair point, if a car is still running the original M030 today I would say they are long past their best! General consensus in the main groups I am a member of is that the Bilstein B6 Sport dampers are the best replacements. Standard front struts can be modified to take the Bilstein damper insert (a height adjust collar and spring platform can also be added at same time). My general point is that the late model turbos are just as nice as the Silver Rose and any "special" items on the Rose are negated by the age of the cars nowadays.
@@Farlig69 also not quite. My '89 came equipped with M030 and Fuchs Club Sport wheels, as well as the rest of the "S" option pack...
My first Porsche was a 924 from 1979. Sadly my dad bent it. :'(
Much better than any rear engine Porsche. The reason --- much easier to maintain and to me a more advanced way of producing a well engineered car than the VW Beetle(ish) rear engined Porsche. 928 also very good.
Nothing beats a well kept and well kept service history 928 S4!!.... NOTHING!!
Smart review…thank you!
Brilliant car jay, been tempted to buy one on more than one occassion.
You mentioned the car came with tools to adjust ride height. Can you tell more about these tools?
Can JayEmm also do bicycles? Merging of my two worlds lol.
Well done thanks!
Beautiful looking car.
I nearly bought one of these (944 turbo) when they we're like 3.5k the insurance put me off. Kicking myself now. Lol
any plans to modify? these really respond well to turbo and intake/exhaust upgrades. I have a 3.5" (much better than the typical 3") mandrel bent exhaust, and A Borgwarner EFR turbo (thats like an Iphone compared to the KKK-k26 being an old flip phone). has breathed new life into the car (and with the MAF intake conversion literally sounds like a jet taking off when it spools up!, and almost eliminated the lag)
James. I am a subscriber and love your videos. Many of your car choices resonate with me. But your promo of your sponsor in this video is off-putting. Many will expect and accept that you should be remunerated for your huge efforts in making your videos. It is ok to say, "Today's clip is sponsored by XYZ" and get on with the review but not one minute and eight seconds of promoting your sponsor. Don't mean to offend but to offer constructive feedback. Apologies if you think otherwise.
Sixty seconds is actually reasonably standard for what is called an "integration". These are unfortunately increasingly necessary as TH-cam seeks to reduce the ad revenue that comes to us. I work very hard to try and strike a balance between viewer enjoyment, and being able to make a living for myself. I do take all feedback on board and am constantly trying to strike that perfect balance.
Thank you for your side of things. You deserve every success.
I suspect turbo S-prices will go up a little more now :-). I noticed that even good non-turbo-944's aren't the bargains they used to be only a few years ago, but as you say: for the quality of the cars for sale, that could mean good things.
it's got a great look. BigBigFan of the 944 !!!
I watched one of these sell for $1,300 at auction--Everyone, including myself, knew we were making a mistake not buying it but the unknowns for reliability were too high. Regret it now for sure.
It is indeed a nice car and one of our colleges lets his nice black one rotting away on the backyard. He don`t wants to sell it but he is also not making it ready to run. Hope one day he will change his mind.
A friend of mine has a silver rose 951 under a cover in his shop !!!! Still not for sale! Oh yeah, it is along side a red 968 😀😀😀😀🚗🚗🏁🏁🏁🍺🍺🍺🍺
Fine cars, but dont discount the later models, they carried over the important parts and could be had in a wider range of colours with slightly updated interiors. The 'bridge spoiler' models were produced in even fewer numbers.
Thanks J!
I drove mine for 14 years. Sorry I got rid of it. Best car I ever owned!
@JayEmm, curious why you call this car a Turbo S when it doesn't have an S anywhere on it? It appears to be an '89 Turbo, no? Maybe I'm missing something!
They were sold as a Turbo S, and are registered as such. Though they never had an S badge on them.
@@JayEmmOnCars the '88 came with an S badge though, but not '89 or '90. Maybe it's different in UK vs US?
Very possible but here I have never seen an "s" with an S badge on
@@JayEmmOnCars well it turns out I was told lies for years! You are totally correct! While I have seen in-person several 944 Turbo S with an S badge, they are all fake. My father even had one. You may continue being my most trusted TH-camr :)
That shirt is ridiculous... it's nowhere near loud enough 😉
Great channel.
Luv the turbo's :)
Oh, 1min 30s into a 9min video and he's still talking about the advert.
964 or 996 GT3 and why? I had a 991.2 GTS and fancy going back in time a bit...
Still a very modern good looking car.
Wait, is this an investment ad or a review if the 944 Turbo S?
Yay new video!
I like the 944 more than the 928 if only due to the headlights on the latter.
I would say this should satisfy your desire for your next car to be a “classic”. But. I’ll wager that your inner petrol head is saying “Since this was basically FREE, that means I will be able to afford TWO classics!”
Imagine if they had put the 5cylinder engine in it . .
These were very popular and there are tons of them still out there, as well as a very active user community. I don't remember who did the Audi five, but someone definitely has put in almost every engine you can imagine.
STOP READING MY MIND!
I saw a piece recently by Jason Cammisa on Hagerty (love his videos there) and he said they considered the Audi 5 but I think balance issues put it out of contention
@@JayEmmOnCars I see you have chosen death by technicalities. ;). Maybe it was a Volvo five cylinder. I know a guy here in Montréal who converted in a TDI engine to a base model, to make a frankencruiser.
Friend had a new one, it spent more time at the dealer for repairs. Engine, transmission, interior problems. After a year he sold it
Neighbour of mine had a 944 Turbo that was continually blowing head gaskets. That engine (and the related V8) being open deck block really didn't help.
I wish you would have mentioned how it feels.
Rust buckets if one doesn’t have a garage. Yes all old cars are susceptible to the elements but the 944 is particularly so. It’ll disintegrate in no time if left outside.
Hi from Canada. Not here, the bodies were fully galvanised from the factory. It's rare though not unheard of, to find rust on a 944 in N America.
As someone else said Porsche has been fully galvanizing all their cars from 1975 and forwards, so they dont really rust unless theres been previous accident damage.
@@admiralfloofz658 nonsense. Galvanised steel is not a forevermore application….after 30-50 years it’s protection breaks down and will rust. That timeframe can be expedited not by a car accident but simply exposure to the elements and trapped water. I respect your conviction in your reply but you are wrong, but appreciate your response. Best regards
@@julian987r4 Galvanization doesnt just break down, you are the one thats wrong. Ive had 5 of these cars and Ive daily driven them for years, in winter and in snow. They shouldnt rust, and mine havent rusted.
The only way they rust is if you grind away the galvinzation. Like for example the Turbo and the S2 had a plastic strip at the bottom of the sill, its common for dirt to get trapped between that and the body thus grinding away at the paint and eventually goes throu the galvinazation and rust starts to form.
I had an 86 Turbo with 150k miles on it that had been daily driven and fairly abused for a long time back when they were cheap. Took it apart and turned it into a racecar, so I stripped all of the undercoating from it and there was no rust at all, only some surfacerust on some corners that you could just grind down to bare metal.
No car made of steel is immune to rust. But 944s and other Porsches are amoung the most resistant to rust of all cars made in the 80s.
@@admiralfloofz658 oy vey.
To be frankly..... I expected a driving review
Surely he's stretching the videos out and we will have one. This is the one he won and is having fixed up atm if i remember correctly.
As I have this car for longer than my usual review cars, I decided to break up the different topics rather than trying to force everything into one huge video. So there's gonna be a first drive, a buyer's guide, etc etc
what is the vin on this car? because i think this is a 951 turbo s not a 944
951 is the internal model code for the 944 turbo. They were never sold as a 951
I had a 951 (944 turbo) lovley little handling car however its being a let down on the engine deparment coulpe with that loooong ratio gearing making the drive train somewhat underwhelming, also the steering is not so great and it cannot be adjusted at all! but what made me sold this porshce is the high running costs of parts and labour.
…But I love the cloth multicolor interior
In 1989 ALL 944 Turbo cars were true S spec..... I know because I had one
The audio sounds slightly strange with headphones on, like there is two people talking at the same time in each ear.
That's what having children is like
Given you mention more nuanced content James, it would be good that you label this video for what it is. It was quite confusing nit seeing you drive the car. Still great as usual but just confusing. All the best
That is an awesome car
I had a 944 turbo s convertible and there on 28 of them left 100 came int GB
How come no test drive?
great investment car
And if my grandmother had wheels she would be a bicycle.
Gino Dicampo
@@robertiddon indeed.
Sheffield's Golden Boy
The Sun roof was deleted as standard? Did I hear that correctly?
For the Turbo S, yes.
@@JayEmmOnCars you make it sound like a good thing
@@tomstirling2882 Non targa cars are incredibly rare so it kind of is. I had an 86 Turbo without the targa roof, Ive had 4 others after that and they all had targa roofs.
I want one.
James did you lose your licence?
Drove that same model.. not my cup of tea! Cannot deal with that slow gearbox, turbo lag, driving position..
this is the best LS swap car
Love it
To hell with the investment app ,get to the car.The 4 cyl engine has a lot to do with values .Should of had a straight 6
Is this the one you won in a raffle?
Yes