If you think a boat 5.8 meters long is to small it is a problem of your mental attitude. A boat 5.8 long is physically plenty to sail around the world for even the tallest person. John Riding sailed from England to Acores to Bermuda through Panama canal up the US west coast and across the Pacific in a boat 3.6 meter 10 feet he was 6 feet 4 inches tall or 193 cm. If he could it in a 3.6 meter boat you can with the right mental attitude do it in a boat 5.8 meter The start picture is Matt Layden with his Enigma 3.6 meter in Jensen Beach near Stuart Florida. We had just been out for a sail.
I lived and sailed on a TES 550 Master ( Sailboats from Poland ) , not a big problem. I also took charterguests out sailing almost every day here in Spain. I sold the boat with good profit , and bought a 35 feet. I hated the boat . Now back in 22 feet again . ( I wrote before about small boats ) Have a nice sailing summer. I will move onboard in april again !
Hello Mister Sven. I would like to know what do you do the day your boat is finished ? Do you sell it ? I ask you that because i'm interrested to sail since min 10 years ago and i'm almost finish my carreer and love sailing but the prive here in France to leave a boat in a marina it's calculate for a millionar.I follow Yan Quenet and you and he found the perfect solution to go for big sailing and fun for a modic amount of money. My question is : do you sell sometime one of your boat ? Thanks and regard
I have had over 45 boats in my life ( only 2 X wifes ). I went bigger and bigger finished on 35 feet , lots of space , but new sails expensive. I sold it went to 29 feet Contest , sold it bought a 27 feet Adagio 27 ( same hull as Allegro 27 ) , sold it , Now back in 22 feet . Same size as i has as young but never design. Little to polish, easy to sail 7/8 rigged. I lived onboard 6 months 2023 , this year i will sail here from Sweden to Barcelona. Love the size and weight !
Don't forget Russian Evgeny Gvozdev. He sailed around the world in a 12ft (3.6m) boat that he built on the balcony of his apartment! He started and ended in the Black Sea so in effect sailed a much longer distance than if he'd started on the coast of one of the oceans. Also Australian Serge Testa who circumnavigated starting and ending at Brisbane in another 12ft boat.
There is an impressive list of boats smaller than 5.8 meter that have crossed oceans like the Tinkerbelle Fathers Day and more but my name memory is getting bad.
I believe you can build yourself a comfort in a small boat upto 20ft, but it's just going to be all custom parts. Those who buy ready parts for every single problem and are not problem solvers and engineers by their nature, won't ever understand how you can even enter a small boat. Most of the people I know measure life in terms of houses sizes at least 100m2 + and they apply it to any living space including boats. I believe this is a mental problem in a nutshell you are talking about. Also this mental model is forced by trends, government and other "respected" institutions. I hate the fact that people who are clear of this stupid believes still have to explain this to the people who are hostages of those mental problems. I've done this for last maybe 10 years and at some point just fed up explaining benefits of the small boats to them. Now my approach is to just say "you know better what is best for your" and don't waste my energy and spend it on designing custom parts instead.
Small, when it comes to boats and safety makes perfect sense to me. Personally I would like to be able to stand up with the hatches closed but that’s just me.
Dear Sven, this discussion of ergonomic/boat-size issues raises a question for me I hope you can answer. How do you maintain adequate lymph and blood circulatory system flow, and full range of motion muscle movement while on a small boat? Asking more simply, what is your whole-body exercise regime? In particular, how do you exercise your legs?
Man adapts. At sea you do not need leg muscles, they get smaller. Arm muscles get bigger. Back on land the process is the reverse. No need to have leg muscles that are not needed. Lymph circulation: Sailing the ocean wave is not like being in a bed in an old peoples home. The boat is mowing all the time. That movement moves the bodys muscles and pumps the lymph system. I think you get a better lymph movement at sea than on land.
To encourage respectful discussions about boats, it's essential to educate people on valuing each vessel's unique design and PURPOSE, rather than using subjective terms like "small" or "huge." Promoting understanding and appreciation for a boat's specific features and intended use can help shift focus away from unproductive comparisons and judgments. It's counterproductive for owners to justify their boat's size or explain its suitability for their needs to those who disregard its advantages.
I said small and specied it with 5.8 meter doble ender with a 1.28 beam. Subscribers to my channel now know my intended use. If you like to cover everything it will be long like written by American lawers, like when you agree to Paypal and things like that. There have been a video every day for a long time now and there is not time for all the details
Anyone questioning Sven's boats should search for old pictures of the boats used in Lofoten in the 1800's Or maybe the canvas boats used by seafarers during wwII. Comfort is a relative thing. Cushions are not a requirement to pursue your dreams.
Maybe we should zoom out and consider for a minute not just boats but artefacts in general. It's a discussion us designers, architects, etc. encounter for almost every artefact. Most times it's not a problem of design but a problem of usage. Forget about the ridiculous assumption that "form follows function" - that there is one good solution to a problem - form follows usage I would say. And if we come back to boats, some cannot live without a fridge and some are able to cruise very frugally. What is best? I would quote french sailor Jean Le Cam: "In the past, people did a lot with not much, today people don't do much with a lot." Good day.
5-Easy for a beginner DIY-er, who's never built a boat, to be able to build one. 6-Can literally be built in an apartment living room, on the 3rd floor, in the middle of a city, hundreds of miles away from a body of water. 7- and you don't need to be at the mercy of those a-hole boat Yard blankety-blanks, who claim, due to "insurance purposes", you can't work on your own boat and any work that needs done, has to be done by their $150 an hour "craftsmen" and oh by the way we can't put your boat back in the water, because that delamination on the cabin top presents a safety risk, so you have to pay us the $5,000 to fix it, on top of the daily charge..... Sorry, bit of a rant there...🤬
8: You can put the mast up or down unaided. 9: You can put the boat on a trailer, on a small flatbed truck, or in a moving van. That would save you a lot of time and money crossing Panama or one of the surrounding countries. 10: You can use it on small inland waters as well as on the sea.
Easy to get sails up , easy to sail ( do not need much force) , lighter weight , Easy to heat up , easy to clean, easy to polish. And as i am almost the smallest in the marina , people feel sorry for me so i always get invited to bigger boats 😊
An 8-inch diameter glass ball goes across the Pacific, surviving some of the worst storms on the planet because it is strong, and it floats. Those are two good qualities in an offshore boat.
They fit inside a 20 feet continer. Global 580 are made to race and plane and have deep draft tall Bermudan rigs. I like the balanced lug sail and short mast. I do not desire speed more than access tho shallow cruising grounds.
As you get more subscribers and Viewers you will get more commenter's from people who are detractors and contratirans. Some people like to criticize and nit-pick others ideas despite them not having any original thoughts themselves. You will realise that responding to all of these people will be impossible, and perhaps a waste of time. Some people don't want to be convinced, they are set in their ideas. Long time viewers will understand and appreciate what you're getting at.
Many of the people making these silly comments have never sailed around the world. 5.8 Metres is fine. I have a new account name now, but I still have Icecream waiting for you in Dunedin. Chocolate Chip. 🙂
If you think a boat 5.8 meters long is to small it is a problem of your mental attitude.
A boat 5.8 long is physically plenty to sail around the world for even the tallest person.
John Riding sailed from England to Acores to Bermuda through Panama canal up the US west coast and across the Pacific in a boat 3.6 meter 10 feet he was 6 feet 4 inches tall or 193 cm.
If he could it in a 3.6 meter boat you can with the right mental attitude do it in a boat 5.8 meter
The start picture is Matt Layden with his Enigma 3.6 meter in Jensen Beach near Stuart Florida. We had just been out for a sail.
His 9ft Elusion was even smaller. I've not heard anything about Matt for a long time.
I lived and sailed on a TES 550 Master ( Sailboats from Poland ) , not a big problem. I also took charterguests out sailing almost every day here in Spain. I sold the boat with good profit , and bought a 35 feet. I hated the boat . Now back in 22 feet again . ( I wrote before about small boats ) Have a nice sailing summer. I will move onboard in april again !
Hello Mister Sven. I would like to know what do you do the day your boat is finished ? Do you sell it ? I ask you that because i'm interrested to sail since min 10 years ago and i'm almost finish my carreer and love sailing but the prive here in France to leave a boat in a marina it's calculate for a millionar.I follow Yan Quenet and you and he found the perfect solution to go for big sailing and fun for a modic amount of money. My question is : do you sell sometime one of your boat ? Thanks and regard
People remember this.....small boats, small problems😊
I have had over 45 boats in my life ( only 2 X wifes ). I went bigger and bigger finished on 35 feet , lots of space , but new sails expensive. I sold it went to 29 feet Contest , sold it bought a 27 feet Adagio 27 ( same hull as Allegro 27 ) , sold it , Now back in 22 feet . Same size as i has as young but never design. Little to polish, easy to sail 7/8 rigged. I lived onboard 6 months 2023 , this year i will sail here from Sweden to Barcelona. Love the size and weight !
My old 6m Jeaneau stil fits me and my family wel. We are 4. I can handle her alone in any weather. Go well old friend.
I think the success of anything that we do, is a product of 80% mental attitude, 10% effort, 10% planning.
Don't forget Russian Evgeny Gvozdev.
He sailed around the world in a 12ft (3.6m) boat that he built on the balcony of his apartment!
He started and ended in the Black Sea so in effect sailed a much longer distance than if he'd started on the coast of one of the oceans.
Also Australian Serge Testa who circumnavigated starting and ending at Brisbane in another 12ft boat.
There is an impressive list of boats smaller than 5.8 meter that have crossed oceans
like the Tinkerbelle Fathers Day and more but my name memory is getting bad.
Also Gerry Spies Yankee Girl
I think it was 10 feet
@@SvenYrvindExlex And of course Hannes Lindemann crossed the Atlantic in a boat one person could pick up and carry.
He did it in two differnet boats
One Faltboat one dugout
@@cornishhh
@@SvenYrvindExlex I'd forgotten about the dugout.
Good to learn about your experience. Please talk about center boards or keels in your boats. Thank you from Argentina.
It isn't about the dimensions of the boat but rather it's (and it's sailor's) capabilities.
i.e. yes, courage and will are assumed@@homie3461
Those who submit to comfort, are neither free nor eager to procure liberty.
👣🕊👽
I believe you can build yourself a comfort in a small boat upto 20ft, but it's just going to be all custom parts. Those who buy ready parts for every single problem and are not problem solvers and engineers by their nature, won't ever understand how you can even enter a small boat. Most of the people I know measure life in terms of houses sizes at least 100m2 + and they apply it to any living space including boats. I believe this is a mental problem in a nutshell you are talking about. Also this mental model is forced by trends, government and other "respected" institutions. I hate the fact that people who are clear of this stupid believes still have to explain this to the people who are hostages of those mental problems. I've done this for last maybe 10 years and at some point just fed up explaining benefits of the small boats to them. Now my approach is to just say "you know better what is best for your" and don't waste my energy and spend it on designing custom parts instead.
Small, when it comes to boats and safety makes perfect sense to me. Personally I would like to be able to stand up with the hatches closed but that’s just me.
Yes, that is a requirement for a liveaboard boat for me as well. But just for sailing that is not a requirement.
I am 84 and agile thanks to having lived in small boats with no standing headroom and a flat with no elevator having to walk the steps.
@@homie3461
@@SvenYrvindExlex
I'm 40, and you move better than I.
Dear Sven, this discussion of ergonomic/boat-size issues raises a question for me I hope you can answer. How do you maintain adequate lymph and blood circulatory system flow, and full range of motion muscle movement while on a small boat? Asking more simply, what is your whole-body exercise regime? In particular, how do you exercise your legs?
Man adapts.
At sea you do not need leg muscles, they get smaller. Arm muscles get bigger.
Back on land the process is the reverse.
No need to have leg muscles that are not needed.
Lymph circulation: Sailing the ocean wave is not like being in a bed in an old peoples home.
The boat is mowing all the time. That movement moves the bodys muscles and pumps the lymph system. I think you get a better lymph movement at sea than on land.
The first week in Azores I had small leg muscles after 78 days at sea. Then they grow back thats the miracle of adaptation.
@homie3461
To encourage respectful discussions about boats, it's essential to educate people on valuing each vessel's unique design and PURPOSE, rather than using subjective terms like "small" or "huge." Promoting understanding and appreciation for a boat's specific features and intended use can help shift focus away from unproductive comparisons and judgments. It's counterproductive for owners to justify their boat's size or explain its suitability for their needs to those who disregard its advantages.
I said small and specied it with 5.8 meter doble ender with a 1.28 beam.
Subscribers to my channel now know my intended use.
If you like to cover everything it will be long like written by American lawers, like when you agree to Paypal and things like that.
There have been a video every day for a long time now and there is not time for all the details
It's like these giant motor homes, I ask; "how are you going to 'get away from it all', if you bring it all with you?"
Small boats are great
Anyone questioning Sven's boats should search for old pictures of the boats used in Lofoten in the 1800's Or maybe the canvas boats used by seafarers during wwII. Comfort is a relative thing. Cushions are not a requirement to pursue your dreams.
Vous avez raison Sven 👍
Maybe we should zoom out and consider for a minute not just boats but artefacts in general. It's a discussion us designers, architects, etc. encounter for almost every artefact. Most times it's not a problem of design but a problem of usage. Forget about the ridiculous assumption that "form follows function" - that there is one good solution to a problem - form follows usage I would say. And if we come back to boats, some cannot live without a fridge and some are able to cruise very frugally. What is best? I would quote french sailor Jean Le Cam: "In the past, people did a lot with not much, today people don't do much with a lot." Good day.
The list of advantages of a small boat... Please add to the list....
1. Low cost build.
2. Shallow water access.
3. 🤔
Strong relative to its weight, positive buoyancy possible, trailerable, solar-electric propulsion feasible, easy to handle, easy to maintain
5-Easy for a beginner DIY-er, who's never built a boat, to be able to build one.
6-Can literally be built in an apartment living room, on the 3rd floor, in the middle of a city, hundreds of miles away from a body of water.
7- and you don't need to be at the mercy of those a-hole boat Yard blankety-blanks, who claim, due to "insurance purposes", you can't work on your own boat and any work that needs done, has to be done by their $150 an hour "craftsmen" and oh by the way we can't put your boat back in the water, because that delamination on the cabin top presents a safety risk, so you have to pay us the $5,000 to fix it, on top of the daily charge..... Sorry, bit of a rant there...🤬
8: You can put the mast up or down unaided.
9: You can put the boat on a trailer, on a small flatbed truck, or in a moving van. That would save you a lot of time and money crossing Panama or one of the surrounding countries.
10: You can use it on small inland waters as well as on the sea.
11: You don't need a dinghy.
Easy to get sails up , easy to sail ( do not need much force) , lighter weight , Easy to heat up , easy to clean, easy to polish. And as i am almost the smallest in the marina , people feel sorry for me so i always get invited to bigger boats 😊
My 24 ft (8m) Shark does 10 knots in a breeze😅
An 8-inch diameter glass ball goes across the Pacific, surviving some of the worst storms on the planet because it is strong, and it floats. Those are two good qualities in an offshore boat.
Sven 👍
I am 6'17" and I am okay with this size I guess.
Strange you come to 580cm - what do you think of the Global 580?
6 pieds et 17 pouces cela fait 7 pieds et 5 pouces non ?
Excusez moi, j'ai beaucoup de mal avec les mesures impériales.
@@marcyvon8404 188cm
They fit inside a 20 feet continer.
Global 580 are made to race and plane and have deep draft tall Bermudan rigs.
I like the balanced lug sail and short mast.
I do not desire speed more than access tho shallow cruising grounds.
Do you still have your old boats you built?
They are all gone
As you get more subscribers and Viewers you will get more commenter's from people who are detractors and contratirans.
Some people like to criticize and nit-pick others ideas despite them not having any original thoughts themselves.
You will realise that responding to all of these people will be impossible, and perhaps a waste of time. Some people don't want to be convinced, they are set in their ideas.
Long time viewers will understand and appreciate what you're getting at.
AMEN!! ✝️🙏❤️🇺🇸🇸🇪⛵️👣🍍😊
Many of the people making these silly comments have never sailed around the world. 5.8 Metres is fine.
I have a new account name now, but I still have Icecream waiting for you in Dunedin. Chocolate Chip. 🙂
That is very reassuring.
Fit vs enjoy.... people have different tastes in sailing