@@shubhamkumarmandal8966 Sir, I am pursuing BTech , and may have no knowledge of subject related to commerce or CA, then suggest the best possible way to become a CA.
@@sanyamdixit3586 go through TH-cam video (Neeraj arora sir channel). Then you have fair idea of course. Now days all classes are available on online mode.
देख रहे हो 'बिनोद'... ये lallantop वाली मोहतरमा एक individual subject में 30% नंबर लाने पर पास करवा रहीं हैं जबकि ICAI का 40% नंबर लाने का प्रावधान है... Script writer और Editor को Grand Salute... Jai Hind... Vande Matram 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
>54.5% h toh bhi 55% Consider kiya jaaata hai or Direct entry me Registration kiya jaa sakta hai. par ab jo bhi Registration karaye Direct Entry me toh Naye course 2023 me aane wala h usme he Registration kare. Personal advice hai varna Old course me Registration Foundation Route se he kare. Direct route se old me karna matlab career waste karna hai.
As a CA student ek advice dena chahta hun jo ye comment kr read kr rhe hai bhut log tumhe kehte honge ca krle krle but ek baat smj lena 12th jitna easy nhi hai yha g tod mehnat lgti hai hwa tight ho jati hai 😅 apni sare shokh side mai rkhke kam krna hota hai so be alert ese meri dhamki smjo ya warning aapke upr 🙏👍
@@Zeya_ansari__ depends upon ki aap khase pdh rhe ho usually 2 ways se class kr skte ho ya to aap kisi bde coaching institutes se pdho ya to aap every subject individual faculty ke lecture leke pdho. Mostly agr mujse pucho to individual faculty ke lecture leke pdhna acha rehta hai bde coaching institutes mai foundation ki fees 20-30k rehti hai aur inter ki fees 60-80k and finals ki 1l+ but online best option hai aur abhi market mai PW and Unacademy bhut kam rate mai achi faculties provide kr rhe hai mai pehle coaching se pdha tha then fir abhi pw se and Unacademy se kr rha hun. Abhi ca ke coaching mai pw aur unacademy bhut lower rate provide kr rhi hai jo bhut achi bat hai Agr apko krna ho CA to ap bolna apko achi faculties suggest kruga
@@gurubaxaniuday4884 Thanks 🙂 but maine aur v kafi videos dekhe jisme ek bhaiya bta rhe thy kafi zyada hard h issey pdhna 🥲 mai bihar m rhti hun yahan to koi class v ni hota
Adil bhai I agree wid u...yes CA is definitely having bigger name nd fame ...but I am also 100%sure that u are nt qualified CA...be mature nd become chartered holder..good luck brother
ये CA Madam ने बताया इसमें कुछ बाते क्लीयर नहीं हो पाई। और उनकी आवाज भी दबी हुई थी बार बार सुनना पड़ा। अगर आपको दिक्कत ना हो पहेलीवाली मैडम की बात कर रहा हु। तो वो मैडम चाहे तो अपनी बुलंद आवाज में फिर से समजा सकते हो। बाकी नही तो कही ना कही से समझ ही लेंगे।
Mam pheli baat IPCC khatm hua zaamana ho gaya. Intermediate aa chuka hai. Neha mam acha tie up kiya hai apne. TH-cam is now new trend to earn money by spreading anything.
@@Sanskargargkumar bhai i am talking about average package including campus also and you are talking about 60k that is ctc not in hand and that 60k also include variable part also
@@kashishmittal16 but bhai campus placement me toh avg . 10lpa se upar ja rha tha agar variable bhi hta do toh 60 k toh I think aram se aa jayega fresher ke liye?
Mummy Kasam bata raha hu- Being CA, I’ll tell you everyone will show one side story. I personally advise you don’t go for CA course. It takes average 8-10 yrs of life with effective passing % less than 1%. Mostly my friends didn’t pass. Average Fresher CA struggling to 30-40k. Rather, You should go for CPA and ACCA. It takes 3-4yrs to pass with 40-50% passing rate and higher Salaries than CA and easy foreign VISA.
Bro main ca nhii Karna chahta but tax ke baare main, investment, stock market and at least itna knowledge ho ki apne finance ka main khud decision le sakuu
IMRAN SIDDIQUI AUR TAX UPDATE bas ye dono hi reply de rahe hain comments ka Aur wo bhi negative Unse puchho ki kya IAS banne 4 saal nahin lagta agar UG degree ke 3 saal add kar du to. Lekin hamara CA to 12th se hi hota hai Agar koi 12th ke baad 2 saal me IAS banta hai MATLAB EK CA JO 5 SAAL ME BANA dono baraabar
Phle cpt ya foundation fir ipcc or fir final ..5 saal or ban gye CA😅😅...real me hota kya h.. foundation clear hote hi khud ko CA samjhne lgte h or ipcc niklte niklte confidence ki aisi taisi ho jaati h ..fir agar ipcc ho gyi to bachi hui kasar CA firm nikal degi jaha articleship karoge..iske baad aata h final ..or ise nikalte nikalte aadhi zindagi Nikal jaati h..8 se 10 saal normal h or ban bhi gye to starting m 30-40k hi milenge jab tk jab tk aap ko koi mnc companies nhi mil jaati 15 se 20 lakh ka pakege mil bhi gya to 18 ghante kaam karna pdega..or agar prectice karna chahte ho to aapka link badi badi firms se hona chahiye...koi bhi firm apni audit usi se karwana pasand krti hai jo ya to lambe time se field mein ho ya unki Jaan pehchan wala ho...mtlb CA banne ke baad bhi 4-5 saal ka struggle h..CA banna ek advocate banna jaisa h..2000 se leke 2cr. Tak sab tarh ke hote h..😂😂🙏
Pls correct the video individual subject m 40% marks chaiye hote h pass hone k ly and if any subject you got 60 or more than 60 then that subject will be exempt for next 3 attempts
Arre guru koti koti dhanyawad aapka ispe video banane ke liye Hm to sabko batate batate thak gye ki ye kaise hota h kis college se hota h ya fir kon se year me ho Kitna samay lagega complete hone me... Ab to bas aapka video ka link bhej denge sabko... 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Avg salary galat hai. Avg salary of fresher CA in campus is 10 - 12 Lac CTC. Yes there is some CA has extraordinary package also depending upon there skills
@@imransiddique8794 aur agar baat rahi market ki to me just last campus ke process se nikala hu. Aur delhi ICAI campus ka highest package holder bhi hu.
ये CA Madam ने बताया इसमें कुछ बाते क्लीयर नहीं हो पाई। और उनकी आवाज भी दबी हुई थी बार बार सुनना पड़ा। अगर आपको दिक्कत ना हो पहेलीवाली मैडम की बात कर रह हु। तो वो मैडम अपनी आवाज फिर समझाए तो ठीक है। नही तो कही ना कही से समझ ही लेंगे।
Sorry lalantop yaha pr sabko pfi ka member bankr islam ko bachana h aur kisi ko Bajrang dal ka member bankr sanatan ko bachana h 🙏.. Jay hind jay bharat 🇮🇳❤️
@@HappySingh-ov9ru are bhai afsos me jaan na nikal jaye aapki... Koi equivalent nahi hai... Jo insan CA ipcc me kai attempts dekar pass hui hai wo CS me AIR-1 lekar aai ... Avani Mishra Me respect sabki karta hun but ye sab equivalent nahi hai..
Hum sbhi professional course kr rhe hi ,but thinking pattern ek uneducated person ka hi. Aree Bhai kya frk pdta hi ca hard easy ,course complete kro package uthao bus ,ca ke hard or easy hone se tumhare package pe ek rupee ka benifit ho to btao
Always proud to be a CA student ✊❤️❣️
Kai ka proud
Kachre ke tarah pade hai CA
K
@@adnankherani sorry for your knowledge you have related to CA course. Just search toughest exam of india. You can find after UPSE, it's CA exam.
You should be proud and focus on CA prefix tag and remember ignore @adnan kherani type person
@@shubhamkumarmandal8966 Sir, I am pursuing BTech , and may have no knowledge of subject related to commerce or CA, then suggest the best possible way to become a CA.
@@sanyamdixit3586 go through TH-cam video (Neeraj arora sir channel). Then you have fair idea of course. Now days all classes are available on online mode.
Couldn't prohibit myself from watching this😅
Proud to be member of this elite fraternity❣️
देख रहे हो 'बिनोद'... ये lallantop वाली मोहतरमा एक individual subject में 30% नंबर लाने पर पास करवा रहीं हैं जबकि ICAI का 40% नंबर लाने का प्रावधान है... Script writer और Editor को Grand Salute... Jai Hind... Vande Matram 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
😂😂😂😂😂
Bas karo madam rulaugi kya
Proud to be Chartered Accountant..💕💕
kitna kmaty hon bhai🎉
Agar ye video 2008 me aa jati to shayad mai bhi ca ban jata. Us time koi guide krne wala nahi tha small town me....
Same
Agr aag h to ab bhi kr lo
CA neha dutta ko khud 9 saal CA banne mein laga hai 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Bhai lekin isne kitni popularity gain krli h yar 😮😮
Neha dtta g apka to sara video dekhta hu
Or aap ne 6 attemt mee ca clear kiya
Best motivation for us
HAR HAR MAHADEV 🕉️🇮🇳
Thank you so much ma'am for your information 😊😊
Great job team The Lallantop *Love from बिहार* ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Proud to be a CA Aspirant ❤️
Ap jesa koi nhi he🙏🙏
🇮🇳
😎 Proud to be CA students 🔥
>54.5% h toh bhi 55% Consider kiya jaaata hai or Direct entry me Registration kiya jaa sakta hai.
par ab jo bhi Registration karaye Direct Entry me toh Naye course 2023 me aane wala h usme he Registration kare. Personal advice hai varna Old course me Registration Foundation Route se he kare.
Direct route se old me karna matlab career waste karna hai.
Please make video on CMA Course also
Individually 40% chaiye hota hai, 30% nahi.
Thank you very much for sharing your educational policy
5:33 Sec -Correction
One needs to score atleast 40% in each subject and in aggregate 50% to clear either group.😊
As a CA student ek advice dena chahta hun jo ye comment kr read kr rhe hai
bhut log tumhe kehte honge ca krle krle but ek baat smj lena 12th jitna easy nhi hai yha g tod mehnat lgti hai hwa tight ho jati hai 😅 apni sare shokh side mai rkhke kam krna hota hai so be alert
ese meri dhamki smjo ya warning aapke upr 🙏👍
This is true if any person want to clear CA exam in single attempt, I am also a ICAI student,
For single attempt target Its very hard
Fee kitna lagta hai ye bta do 🙂
@@Zeya_ansari__ depends upon ki aap khase pdh rhe ho usually 2 ways se class kr skte ho ya to aap kisi bde coaching institutes se pdho ya to aap every subject individual faculty ke lecture leke pdho. Mostly agr mujse pucho to individual faculty ke lecture leke pdhna acha rehta hai bde coaching institutes mai foundation ki fees 20-30k rehti hai aur inter ki fees 60-80k and finals ki 1l+ but online best option hai aur abhi market mai PW and Unacademy bhut kam rate mai achi faculties provide kr rhe hai mai pehle coaching se pdha tha then fir abhi pw se and Unacademy se kr rha hun. Abhi ca ke coaching mai pw aur unacademy bhut lower rate provide kr rhi hai jo bhut achi bat hai
Agr apko krna ho CA to ap bolna apko achi faculties suggest kruga
@@gurubaxaniuday4884 Thanks 🙂 but maine aur v kafi videos dekhe jisme ek bhaiya bta rhe thy kafi zyada hard h issey pdhna 🥲 mai bihar m rhti hun yahan to koi class v ni hota
Thank you for this ❤
CS AND CMA course and professional also exists in india and they also play vital role in indian economy
Jao chilla chilla ke bolo 😂😂😂tab bhi name aur fame hum CA walon ka hi hoga
CMA 🛐
proud to be a C.M.A student 💪💪
I am cs and cma student but I don't beg like you when I see CA video .. stop degrading your value dear... Self respect rakh thoda
Adil bhai I agree wid u...yes CA is definitely having bigger name nd fame ...but I am also 100%sure that u are nt qualified CA...be mature nd become chartered holder..good luck brother
An "Accountant" role in 🤔💭 Private Limited company for
-Manufacturing Company
-Treading Company 😮
-Service Company 😅
CMA per bhi ek show banao didi
Proud to be a Chartered Accountant (CA)
Proud to be a ca student❤
More power to you Lallantop ❤️
CA ❤️
Very best teacher
ये CA Madam ने बताया इसमें कुछ बाते क्लीयर नहीं हो पाई। और उनकी आवाज भी दबी हुई थी बार बार सुनना पड़ा। अगर आपको दिक्कत ना हो पहेलीवाली मैडम की बात कर रहा हु। तो वो मैडम चाहे तो अपनी बुलंद आवाज में फिर से समजा सकते हो। बाकी नही तो कही ना कही से समझ ही लेंगे।
Make a video on ICMAI too
CA ❤️ the best study I did.
Mam please make video on cost and mangement accountant of India (CMA) and guide
Even after becoming CA I can't stopped myself from viewing this video 😂
Bhai tumhare hisab se CA worth h?
Ha bhai worth hai kya
@@Sanskargargkumar bilkul worth hei lekin log paas nahi ho paate jaldi to frustrate ho kar wo chor deta hei
Bhai kuch tips de do
Same here
My aim is chartined acountant proud of me 😊😊
👍 Thanks for the information
Pls make video on CMA ..
I am CA 😍 feeling proud on myself
How much are you earning sir ?
Mam pheli baat IPCC khatm hua zaamana ho gaya. Intermediate aa chuka hai. Neha mam acha tie up kiya hai apne. TH-cam is now new trend to earn money by spreading anything.
Thanks mam pahle Mai bhut jyada confuse tha ki graduation karne ke baad c.a kaise kare❤❤❤
CMA also fill ITR and other works of commerce
First views and first comment from a CA student.
Each paper required 40% not 30%
Proud to be a CA FINALIST 😎
Time 8 saal lgta hai aur training 3 saal ki hoti h. 5 saal jitna asan nhi h
always proud to be a CA Aspirant💥💫
Kitne attempts ho gye aaj tak😜
@@gouravsharma5250 abhi dunga 1st attempt june me💥 waise tum experienced lg rhe ho
@@Gulam_sabirMai to 12th me hu abhi😂
@@gouravsharma5250 chalo acha h sath me denge July 23 me 😁
@@Gulam_sabir Mai CA nai karunga. Gadho ki Race😒
Rangroot top class hai bas rajasthan ke refrence bhi lao
Proud to be a CA Student.
CMA ke bare me v vdo banaiye
please make a video on CMA as well it is also very tough course
Tough 😂😂😂
@@adityajain2919 nhi bohot asaan hai mr. Einstein
@@adityajain2919 cma ka tax cost padho pta chal jaega🙂💯
@@rubaibiswas4313 he might be a CA student that’s why CMA is not tough for him
@@adityajain2919 jada daant Matt dikha..Teri monopoly toh hum log hi khatam karenge tab daat dikhana
Proud to be a CA.. ❤
Informative video 👍👍👍
Aap aise bata rahe ho ki jaise bahut easy course hai, bahut hard work lagta hai muje bhi 6 saal laggaye banne me
Bhai what is the fresher salary of ca in 2022?
@@Sanskargargkumar average is around 40 to 50k in hand per month
@@kashishmittal16 in campus avg. Is around 60k -70k
@@Sanskargargkumar bhai i am talking about average package including campus also and you are talking about 60k that is ctc not in hand and that 60k also include variable part also
@@kashishmittal16 but bhai campus placement me toh avg . 10lpa se upar ja rha tha agar variable bhi hta do toh 60 k toh I think aram se aa jayega fresher ke liye?
I'm CA and CMA as CS student .
Mummy Kasam bata raha hu-
Being CA, I’ll tell you everyone will show one side story. I personally advise you don’t go for CA course. It takes average 8-10 yrs of life with effective passing % less than 1%. Mostly my friends didn’t pass. Average Fresher CA struggling to 30-40k.
Rather, You should go for CPA and ACCA. It takes 3-4yrs to pass with 40-50% passing rate and higher Salaries than CA and easy foreign VISA.
Bro main ca nhii Karna chahta but tax ke baare main, investment, stock market and at least itna knowledge ho ki apne finance ka main khud decision le sakuu
Kya tum bata skate ho ki mujhe kya ya kon sa course karne se main ye knowledge gain kar sakuu
@@akhileshyadav-hu1cm tum bhi ek failure and negative mindset wale se poch rahe hoo (Dekh rahe binod dunya kaise chal rahe hai 😊😊😊)
@@giramsaqeb6316 Stupids are always positive. Intellectuals analyse both side. Many stupids like you Jump in river without knowing depth.
@@akhileshyadav-hu1cm Stock Market and Taxation’s both separate stream. CA course does provide stock Market education.
IMRAN SIDDIQUI AUR TAX UPDATE
bas ye dono hi reply de rahe hain comments ka
Aur wo bhi negative
Unse puchho ki kya IAS banne 4 saal nahin lagta agar UG degree ke 3 saal add kar du to.
Lekin hamara CA to 12th se hi hota hai
Agar koi 12th ke baad 2 saal me IAS banta hai MATLAB EK CA JO 5 SAAL ME BANA dono baraabar
Phle cpt ya foundation fir ipcc or fir final ..5 saal or ban gye CA😅😅...real me hota kya h.. foundation clear hote hi khud ko CA samjhne lgte h or ipcc niklte niklte confidence ki aisi taisi ho jaati h ..fir agar ipcc ho gyi to bachi hui kasar CA firm nikal degi jaha articleship karoge..iske baad aata h final ..or ise nikalte nikalte aadhi zindagi Nikal jaati h..8 se 10 saal normal h or ban bhi gye to starting m 30-40k hi milenge jab tk jab tk aap ko koi mnc companies nhi mil jaati 15 se 20 lakh ka pakege mil bhi gya to 18 ghante kaam karna pdega..or agar prectice karna chahte ho to aapka link badi badi firms se hona chahiye...koi bhi firm apni audit usi se karwana pasand krti hai jo ya to lambe time se field mein ho ya unki Jaan pehchan wala ho...mtlb CA banne ke baad bhi 4-5 saal ka struggle h..CA banna ek advocate banna jaisa h..2000 se leke 2cr. Tak sab tarh ke hote h..😂😂🙏
Pls correct the video individual subject m 40% marks chaiye hote h pass hone k ly and if any subject you got 60 or more than 60 then that subject will be exempt for next 3 attempts
Cost accountant ka bhi banaye zara. (CMA)
Mai bhi CMA kr raha bhai
@@abhimanyumishra770 Bhi CMA ki internship ki duration kitni h ?
@@shauryaprabhat9021 minimum 15 month
@@shauryaprabhat9021 total duration 3yrs, 15 months compulsory hai
Arre guru koti koti dhanyawad aapka ispe video banane ke liye
Hm to sabko batate batate thak gye ki ye kaise hota h kis college se hota h ya fir kon se year me ho
Kitna samay lagega complete hone me...
Ab to bas aapka video ka link bhej denge sabko...
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Please listen at 5:30 to 5:35
The minimum marks should be 40 but she is saying 30 .
Madam ko kuchh pta h nahi...aur kuchhbhi bol rahi h
@@CAEditZz bilkul shi bole aap
Individually Subject me 40 Marks chahiye hota h.
Naukari toh bas ek hi hai chartered Accountant baki toh sab naukariyan hain ❤️
Cost accountant (CMA) ka bhi ek video bana do ...
05:30 madam 40% not 30%
People have misunderstanding that CA is the only option for commerce students......Please cover other professional courses like cs, cma etc
Also include ACCA, Actuarial Science, CFA, CPA etc...
CGL me aao ke liye,
@@sushantsharma6317 This is not Indian course
@@rockyhandsome6875 course kahin k bhi ho... Lekin india m value to h in sbhi courses ki....
Also include Acca, cpa,cima, cma us, mba
Bio chemistry by honey ❤
How to become a CMA
Please Suggest also
I am in my CA FInal and Still watching i don't know WHY...
Required video on CMA
Please make video on CMA COURSE also, it always ignore. Clearing CMA require same efforts like CA.
Why not do ca then
@@naruti3992 good questions bro..
@@sharadkumar2062 brother ptofession chahe koi bhi choose krlo efforts to sabhi m chahiye 🤷
@@saurabhharsh9726 right
It average take 7-8 years for 90 percentage students
My brother passed this exam in 6 years. (2015-2021)
@@gauravvishalcrn28 abe jaahil ... my friend passed in 4 yrs.... He is telling in General
@@Ritika_Yadav_Bharti Tu jahil... Hmne kb bola ki 4 sal me pas nhi ho skte... Hmne bola kya... Self perception create kr rha murkh inshan
@@Ritika_Yadav_Bharti the duration of CA is Almost 5 years(including result waiting time) standard time is 4 and half year.
Proud to be a CA 😇
Thank you maa
CA Bane ke liya din me kitne hours padena chaiye
Medam 40% in every subject
Agr 12th me commerce subject nhi hota hai to kya kre
How ICAI gives full marks in CA Final Audit?😱 Review of answer copy with ICAI'S marking scheme by AIR 2👇
th-cam.com/video/8kaXQZbNuhw/w-d-xo.html
There is one more qualification which you should also cover CMA (Cost and Management Accountant) @the lallantop
Avg salary galat hai. Avg salary of fresher CA in campus is 10 - 12 Lac CTC. Yes there is some CA has extraordinary package also depending upon there skills
Actually, You don’t have market knowledge.
Actually, I am CA by profession. So as per my knowledge this is the avg for newly qualified CA.
@@imransiddique8794 aur agar baat rahi market ki to me just last campus ke process se nikala hu. Aur delhi ICAI campus ka highest package holder bhi hu.
@@shubhamkumarmandal8966 how much is your package??
@@shubhamkumarmandal8966 bhai this guy name Kameless has nothing only here to defame ca profession
Please make a video on Company Secretary Course
ये CA Madam ने बताया इसमें कुछ बाते क्लीयर नहीं हो पाई। और उनकी आवाज भी दबी हुई थी बार बार सुनना पड़ा। अगर आपको दिक्कत ना हो पहेलीवाली मैडम की बात कर रह हु। तो वो मैडम अपनी आवाज फिर समझाए तो ठीक है। नही तो कही ना कही से समझ ही लेंगे।
You should make video on CMA Course also
lallantop please do your research right, CPT and IPCC purane course m hua karta tha.... ab. sirf foundation and intermediate exam hote hai...
Sorry lalantop yaha pr sabko pfi ka member bankr islam ko bachana h aur kisi ko Bajrang dal ka member bankr sanatan ko bachana h 🙏..
Jay hind jay bharat 🇮🇳❤️
Ca course and professional also exists in India and they also play vital in India economy
Dada ami বার শ টাকার লটারি 28 সেপট ,পেয়েছি।
No in
I am proud of ca Student
HAR HAR MAHADEV 🇮🇳🕉️
CA course किस Medium में कर सकते हैं
Tough to be CA, & IAS
Make a video on CMA institute
Ty mam for this session ☺️☺️☺️☺️
It's a basic knowledge based Session
Sir c.a banva mate 12 nu આંકડાશાસ્ત્ર jaruri se ke college nu આંકડાશાસ્ત્ર sikhelu hoy to chale
Ma'am 30 din me banwa do please 2 saal se try kar raha hu
Good video series
Proud to be a CA aspirants
Chalenge accepted ❤
Class 10 ke bad CA Foundation ka exam de sakte hain
CMA course ke v bare me btaye???
Please make video about CMA Institute also🙏🙏
CMA KE BARE MAI BHI INFORMATION PROVIDE KRO AP.
CMA & CS also filling ITR Professionally
Advocates and munim bhi krte hain...
Wo CA ke equivalent ho jayege kya?
Apko CA hote hue v nahi pata hai ki CA CMA CS OR ADVOCATE Equivalent hi hai...bass work alag hai ....afsos
@@HappySingh-ov9ru are bhai afsos me jaan na nikal jaye aapki...
Koi equivalent nahi hai... Jo insan CA ipcc me kai attempts dekar pass hui hai wo CS me AIR-1 lekar aai ... Avani Mishra
Me respect sabki karta hun but ye sab equivalent nahi hai..
Hum sbhi professional course kr rhe hi ,but thinking pattern ek uneducated person ka hi. Aree Bhai kya frk pdta hi ca hard easy ,course complete kro package uthao bus ,ca ke hard or easy hone se tumhare package pe ek rupee ka benifit ho to btao
No doubt ca is tough course, but may esse kafi cma person ko janta hu jo ek ca se jyada earn kr rhe hi, even they have same number of experience as CA