Commenting here as an ex-10pearls employee. I have met Zeeshan bhai and Imran bhai in the office. Very humble people to interact with and again doing a great job for Pakistan IT sector.
Muzammil let the god damn guest speak. I watched the entire episode and there were so many moments where you asked him a question and he was about to give away an important point and you would cut him off to put your point.
Agreed, that was too annoying. At several points, guest was about to say something really good, but Muzammil kept cutting him off and taking to new points. I am amazed the guest didnt show his annoyance on that.
Let the guest speak, and dont cut him off please for god's sake. There were several instances where you asked him an important question, and cut him off not letting him share his wonderful knowledge. Work on this please.
Respectfully, your podcasting skills seem to be decaying. You should speak less and let guest speak more when there is an overwhelming skill and knowledge gap b/w you and your guest.
Bhai apka question e itna bara hota h sb ghom jata h. Guest ka answer 1 line ka hota h. Please work on this. Ask concise questions and don't be confusing.
38:34 takes me back 😅, I was the resource being talked about here, and I definitely agree that you don't need a degree to climb the ladder in IT, as programming is like most skills with enough dedication you can master it and to my experience IT industry have always valued skill over degree.
Muzzamil sh, this note is specifically for you, dear never ever ask too big questions means a guest is there to answer things but why you become too much comparing things and prepare as question hardly after 2, 3 minutes with your own made opinions. Please be concise and very short in asking about questiond, let the other do his/her ideas to come out. At times, you distract a person from the real ongoing discussion. Please never mind but it's a piece of advice for you.
Muzammil bhai. Ap thora bola krin. Guest ko baat krny dia krin. Is podcast ko dekh kr lgta h ap guest ho or dosry bhai host hn...Jb b guest kuch important kehny lgty hn ap tok dety ho. Please don't do this .... @TBTGO #tbt
TBT always contributes to the minds and thought processes of its viewers by bringing such great leaders / legends of respective fields. always enjoy your every episode.
Zeeshan Aftab Sahab is great personality. Maa shaa Allah. A visionary and empathetic person. May Allah SWT grant him more in this world and Aakhirah. Aameen summa Aameen
I'm commenting the same thing again. He is not giving correct figures. $3000-4000 resource cost? Konse Pakistan main horaha hai ye? Time stamp: 1:01:30
Yar we have wasted hslf the time to listen u, are u going to interview yourself secondle competent personalities donot amalgsmet lsnguages its lack of your competence on the subject u are tslking sbout.
As an Ex software engineer at Pearls, I've found the company really professional. They care about developing their employees and offer great chances to advance in your career. Plus, Zeeshan himself is super down-to-earth.
More or less same service based culture followed in most IT companies throughout Pakistan. I hope a big players comes out in the Product development industry which can actually create some practical value in Changing how things work in the world
IT education ka mayar to yh hai kay IT graduate ko he nahi pta hota job kay liye kya seekhna chaiye aur kesay skill acquire karni hai jab tak koi mentor na milay!! Teachers ko kuch nai pta market kay baray ma!!
Muzammil bhai it's really great to see our Pakistani TH-camrs giving us know how about certain businesses. But here something I really wanna point out, is that please sort some really good questions that should be helpful to know about the market in general and their challenges and how did they solve all those problems. If I am thinking of a startup in the same field and need to know about the market challenges, I dont find any detailed information on the niche, the pros and cons. It seems like podcast is flooded with different angles but with very little information on each. Please do the necessary. We want our TH-camrs dig the information from the person according to our needs. Thanks. Jazak Allah ❤️
you are doin so good jazakallah we need these types of podcasts in urdu its really amazing that I am learning more and more but rationally and my critical abilities are going high and high
Thank you for sharing these beautiful thoughts on the podcast. I'm eager to see if TBT can arrange a podcast with Mr. Asif Peer, CEO of Systems Ltd. I believe there's much to learn from him as well. Thank you once again, TBT, for this informative and engaging podcast. I didn't miss a second of it, though I did rewind a few minutes at times to listen more carefully to Zeeshan sb's insights on your questions.
Interesting that he does not currently see benefit of going IPO. Also he does not currently see any benefit of focusing on product due to the "threat" of AI. In previous Dil ki baat ep Muzamil emphasized that these issues are crucial for the future of company's and Pakistans growth. For me it seemed like a person with experienced like Zeeshan does not share this view, at least at the same level of importance. Would love to hear if this changes Muzzamils views, or is Zeeshan simply downplaying the consequences? Or maybe Zeeshan is right, and Muzzamil lack understanding or data. Anyways, great episode! Thanks for your hard work 😊 love from abroad
I'm also doing my bsc from Istanbul Turikiye, I learned Turkish too without even studying, but the thing is that things have been changed now, still hoping for the best Insha'Allah
@muzamal for 70 to 80 percent of population not at the level of urs and urs guest education, though level so plz also try to communicate or summarize in very simplest for that section of society as well
Question!how can young generation of Pakistan achieve the skill set to become industry leaders not just employees, please ask this question from all respected guests, would really appreciate some insights on this, keep up the good work ✨✨
Finally someone who pointed out the pitfall we are heading to....as an individual, I am also very concerned too. I would request if you can do a program specifically focusing on how the salaried middle class can manage their situation. E.G I got a solar set up installed just to avoid the load shedding and also to control my electricity bills, starting car pooling, infact using ride sharing apps etc. What else can we do to manage things better.
Muzammil sir can you also do a podcast with an exporter like a clothing apparel exporter as you have connections in that domain as well who can explain the future about exports of Pakistan and where the country is headed and if the demand is increasing or decreasing of physical export products from pakistan. Thank you
I think countries like Pakistan, can actually get the most benefit from AI, rich country people will have more hard time but yes they can leverage as they have a good education and competence. We must be adaptable other wise we will be irrelevant
One of the most insightful podcasts Muzammil bhai, as a student i often look for different courses and what not to do to level up my skill portfolio, i didnt know 10PearlsUniversity was a thing and id definitely check it out, employee retention wali baat holds alot of water as well, id love to see where these Pakistan based companies take loyalty benefits especially in regards to stock options in the future
1:12:54 people should look at his expression when it comes to transfer the benefits of dollar pegged salary to the employee, literally sick mentally k hum apnay dollars kyun in employees ko de? I mean paisay ki aisi bhi Kya hawas hai bhai
The dollar was 303 pkr last year and continuously decreased over the year and now stand at 278 pkr, are you suggesting a decrement in salary after a year of hard work?
@@mohammadsaifulhaq6454 have you started working from last year? Nhi then It means you would have seen the time when dollar was at 206 when dollar pegged salary trend started , so guess if they had adopted it as soon as the trend emerges then do u still think that the person who have started at that point would be at any lose now??? Second of all these companies claim their headquarters in US or any other countries so why can't they directly payout as remittance to save their employees from this inhumane tax regime
@@mohammadsaifulhaq6454 second thing to remember this dollar price is being artificially being maintained but in the upcoming years you will see that dollar crossing 500 as well , corrupt governments lead to worst of circumstances
Main issue in IT sectors in Pakistan is companies paying a very less salaries to their employees, as a result many talented resources leave a country and go to abroad for better opportunity.
Sir, is there a DSA data structures and algorithms round in these big companies or the interview is solely focused on the technology on which the person is supposed to work such as React, Next. Js etc.
How this seemingly rational and pragmatic guy Muzamil is ok with imran khan's managerial abilities, vision, approach, associates, and above all else his totally insane actions in office from day1 thru last, is something I will never be able to make sense of
10p used to be a solid company until 2021. However, their excessive hiring in non-tech teams led to layoffs and forced resignations. While Imran is great at what he does, Zeeshan seems to have a 'saith' mindset-if he dislikes someone, they're as good as gone. He even publicly humiliates senior employees on company media. Power is monopolized by a few, preventing growth in the three cities they serve. They're nice while you're working there, but once you resign, they treat you like an enemy. Talk about a supportive work environment! 🙄
Muzammil bhai, thank you so much for inviting Sir Zeeshan. His work is truly inspirational, and his dedication to excellence is evident in his remarkable achievements. Sir, your success story resonates deeply with my own aspirations. It would be an honor to have the opportunity to meet you in person. I am confident that, God willing, we will strive to emulate your path and make a meaningful difference in the world. I am committed to provide exceptional problem-solving services and develop leading Software as a Service (SaaS) products, all while upholding the highest ethical standards. I am determined to transform the world's perception by prioritizing my clients' needs, honoring my commitments promptly, and earning remuneration only upon their satisfaction. (Bss Allah hamein seedhay rasty py chalny or sabat qadam rehny ki toufeeq dy)
This was great conversation very insightful and informative keep up the good work Muzamil, your doing great work for the youngsters of Pakistan. (10p employee)
I'm just about to complete my bachelors in English. But I want to switch my career towards IT. I'm following your podcast especially technology focused ones. It's been a great help to figure out the uncertainty in certain things. Kindly also talk about a complete road map as you know the experts so it would be helpful for me and others to start self-learning and make a career at least in the span of 1 year or so accordingly. Focusing on the resources and only necessary things to learn especially incorporating AI and considering future tech industry. Sir Zeeshan Aftab inspired me a lot and I think I will be working in 10 Pearls after learning necessary skills initially. I hope my comment is considered. Thanks to both of you for such insights.
I wish I were younger to join IT but I can advise you to search Al Nafi IT programmes. They offer money back guarantee and I have seen people getting good jobs here in Europe after they do their 9 months online course.
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Commenting here as an ex-10pearls employee. I have met Zeeshan bhai and Imran bhai in the office. Very humble people to interact with and again doing a great job for Pakistan IT sector.
Muzammil let the god damn guest speak. I watched the entire episode and there were so many moments where you asked him a question and he was about to give away an important point and you would cut him off to put your point.
Agreed, that was too annoying. At several points, guest was about to say something really good, but Muzammil kept cutting him off and taking to new points.
I am amazed the guest didnt show his annoyance on that.
I really wanted to listen to Zeeshab sab, but forced to listen to muzamil.
Let the guest speak, and dont cut him off please for god's sake. There were several instances where you asked him an important question, and cut him off not letting him share his wonderful knowledge.
Work on this please.
Muzamil please speak less and try that guest speak more. They are subject matter experts on their fields with decades of experience.
This is a great, great podcast. Next up, try interviewing someone from Folio3, maybe Adnan Lawai himself.
U speak too much.let the guest speak for witch he has been invited. Your conduction ib booring.
Respectfully, your podcasting skills seem to be decaying. You should speak less and let guest speak more when there is an overwhelming skill and knowledge gap b/w you and your guest.
Bhai apka question e itna bara hota h sb ghom jata h. Guest ka answer 1 line ka hota h. Please work on this. Ask concise questions and don't be confusing.
1:08:20 by ssn fraud do you mean devsinc🤔
38:34 takes me back 😅, I was the resource being talked about here, and I definitely agree that you don't need a degree to climb the ladder in IT, as programming is like most skills with enough dedication you can master it and to my experience IT industry have always valued skill over degree.
You are a star boy.
very nice, مَا شَاءَ ٱللَّٰهُ
I would love to know that if we can still follow a path like yours & have a successful IT career?
Muzzamil sh, this note is specifically for you, dear never ever ask too big questions means a guest is there to answer things but why you become too much comparing things and prepare as question hardly after 2, 3 minutes with your own made opinions. Please be concise and very short in asking about questiond, let the other do his/her ideas to come out. At times, you distract a person from the real ongoing discussion. Please never mind but it's a piece of advice for you.
Muzammil bhai. Ap thora bola krin. Guest ko baat krny dia krin. Is podcast ko dekh kr lgta h ap guest ho or dosry bhai host hn...Jb b guest kuch important kehny lgty hn ap tok dety ho. Please don't do this .... @TBTGO #tbt
TBT always contributes to the minds and thought processes of its viewers by bringing such great leaders / legends of respective fields. always enjoy your every episode.
1H39M episode, Host Time: 1Hour, Guest Time: 39 Minutes
Muzamil is like 'mere ko sab ata'.
Let the guest speak 🙏
You are in Dubai now try to engage Indians in your show too
Muzammil bhai we want you to call a Cybersecurity professional specifically from the pakistani Industry and talk about this market.
Zeeshan Aftab Sahab is great personality. Maa shaa Allah.
A visionary and empathetic person.
May Allah SWT grant him more in this world and Aakhirah. Aameen summa Aameen
I'm commenting the same thing again. He is not giving correct figures. $3000-4000 resource cost? Konse Pakistan main horaha hai ye? Time stamp: 1:01:30
In 10Pearls it does happen
Dear Muzamil, we need CAPTIONS in ENGLISH for some of words that are difficult to hear and understand for language deficients
Yar we have wasted hslf the time to listen u, are u going to interview yourself secondle competent personalities donot amalgsmet lsnguages its lack of your competence on the subject u are tslking sbout.
Wtf??
Aray bhai guest ko tou bolnay day khud itna bolay jaara hai Questions ko small and concise rakho yar
BHAI BUHUT SHUKRIYA. I really needed these insights.
Taylor Sandra Wilson John Allen Shirley
As an Ex software engineer at Pearls, I've found the company really professional. They care about developing their employees and offer great chances to advance in your career. Plus, Zeeshan himself is super down-to-earth.
100%
More or less same service based culture followed in most IT companies throughout Pakistan. I hope a big players comes out in the Product development industry which can actually create some practical value in Changing how things work in the world
Pakistan se zinda bhag
IT education ka mayar to yh hai kay IT graduate ko he nahi pta hota job kay liye kya seekhna chaiye aur kesay skill acquire karni hai jab tak koi mentor na milay!! Teachers ko kuch nai pta market kay baray ma!!
Guest ko bolnay dein please
Amazing Podcast but few improvement pointers:
- Please keep questions short !
- Dont cut the guest when he/she is explaining .
Muzammil bhai it's really great to see our Pakistani TH-camrs giving us know how about certain businesses. But here something I really wanna point out, is that please sort some really good questions that should be helpful to know about the market in general and their challenges and how did they solve all those problems. If I am thinking of a startup in the same field and need to know about the market challenges, I dont find any detailed information on the niche, the pros and cons. It seems like podcast is flooded with different angles but with very little information on each. Please do the necessary. We want our TH-camrs dig the information from the person according to our needs.
Thanks.
Jazak Allah ❤️
university ka name samjh nahe aaya
Love the podcast! It is so good to hear from visionaries and people who are making a real difference in the world!! 🙌
you are doin so good jazakallah we need these types of podcasts in urdu its really amazing that I am learning more and more but rationally and my critical abilities are going high and high
Is it any wonder that Pakistan is a mess.
I work for indian IT company TCS
Revenue is $30billion
$100 million😂😂😂😂
Thank you for sharing these beautiful thoughts on the podcast. I'm eager to see if TBT can arrange a podcast with Mr. Asif Peer, CEO of Systems Ltd. I believe there's much to learn from him as well. Thank you once again, TBT, for this informative and engaging podcast. I didn't miss a second of it, though I did rewind a few minutes at times to listen more carefully to Zeeshan sb's insights on your questions.
Interesting that he does not currently see benefit of going IPO. Also he does not currently see any benefit of focusing on product due to the "threat" of AI. In previous Dil ki baat ep Muzamil emphasized that these issues are crucial for the future of company's and Pakistans growth. For me it seemed like a person with experienced like Zeeshan does not share this view, at least at the same level of importance. Would love to hear if this changes Muzzamils views, or is Zeeshan simply downplaying the consequences? Or maybe Zeeshan is right, and Muzzamil lack understanding or data.
Anyways, great episode! Thanks for your hard work 😊 love from abroad
Amazing one
I'm also doing my bsc from Istanbul Turikiye, I learned Turkish too without even studying, but the thing is that things have been changed now, still hoping for the best Insha'Allah
@muzamal for 70 to 80 percent of population not at the level of urs and urs guest education, though level so plz also try to communicate or summarize in very simplest for that section of society as well
Question!how can young generation of Pakistan achieve the skill set to become industry leaders not just employees, please ask this question from all respected guests, would really appreciate some insights on this, keep up the good work ✨✨
I am ex employee of 10pearls, Zeeshan aftab is a gem and both brothers are one of the humble person I found. Did learn alot while my time at 10pearls.
I also did matric after Hifz without studying 6,7,8 and I think it's not difficult but Hifz is very very difficult
Muzamil bhai you should also invite Amir Wain,CEO of i2c, to podcast
No.
Why??
@@tayyabrajput8421 Very horrible company to work at as a software developer.
amazing and very informative one. this man is a river of knowledge
highly insightful conversation.
Proud to be a part of 10Pearls, but ab Germany aker or agay bharna hay inshallah.
Asslamualikum, Ap Germany hoty hain brother
@@faisalgulzar7448 walaikumsalam, g.
Brother please let me know how to go to Germany too
Finally someone who pointed out the pitfall we are heading to....as an individual, I am also very concerned too. I would request if you can do a program specifically focusing on how the salaried middle class can manage their situation. E.G I got a solar set up installed just to avoid the load shedding and also to control my electricity bills, starting car pooling, infact using ride sharing apps etc. What else can we do to manage things better.
Great podcast, very inspiring! Please bring on more CEOs from companies like Folio3, Ibex, and Cubix.
You are doing a great job, i wait for your Podcasts. Amazing knowledge and articulate way to convey complex ideas in simple way. Shabash boy
The only podcast I listened to continuously for 1 hour and 40 minutes was very insightful.
Muzammil sir can you also do a podcast with an exporter like a clothing apparel exporter as you have connections in that domain as well who can explain the future about exports of Pakistan and where the country is headed and if the demand is increasing or decreasing of physical export products from pakistan. Thank you
you don't know about IT much your question are dumb sometimes .
Thanks Muzamil Bahi, Well done, you are true Patriot, Keep up the good work
as a student what should we pursue in terms of learning and for career?
Why all podcaster don't talk about working in China, they only know about USA, UAE, Europe.
Bcuz Chinese market despite being extraordinarily vast and broad still isn’t compact enough to compete with the European market.
I was looking forward to hearing the last question of "2050" but that didn't happen.
Zeeshan Bhai is really doing an amazing job and is a great inspiration. Salute!
Pheeeenoooomenaaaal !
Thank you Muzammil Bhai
Very Humble personality
Poora suna aur i will apply for job there
Why 10perals did't hire the freshers
Keep sharing good things ✌🏻
It was very helpful
I think countries like Pakistan, can actually get the most benefit from AI, rich country people will have more hard time but yes they can leverage as they have a good education and competence. We must be adaptable other wise we will be irrelevant
One of the most insightful podcasts Muzammil bhai, as a student i often look for different courses and what not to do to level up my skill portfolio, i didnt know 10PearlsUniversity was a thing and id definitely check it out, employee retention wali baat holds alot of water as well, id love to see where these Pakistan based companies take loyalty benefits especially in regards to stock options in the future
Why is spotify link not working ?
AI won't change much.
Many BHI NI parha bhai
1:12:54
1:01:30
Brilliant podcast. real eye opener
1:06 RIp devsinc
1:12:54 people should look at his expression when it comes to transfer the benefits of dollar pegged salary to the employee, literally sick mentally k hum apnay dollars kyun in employees ko de? I mean paisay ki aisi bhi Kya hawas hai bhai
The dollar was 303 pkr last year and continuously decreased over the year and now stand at 278 pkr, are you suggesting a decrement in salary after a year of hard work?
@@mohammadsaifulhaq6454 have you started working from last year? Nhi then It means you would have seen the time when dollar was at 206 when dollar pegged salary trend started , so guess if they had adopted it as soon as the trend emerges then do u still think that the person who have started at that point would be at any lose now??? Second of all these companies claim their headquarters in US or any other countries so why can't they directly payout as remittance to save their employees from this inhumane tax regime
@@mohammadsaifulhaq6454 second thing to remember this dollar price is being artificially being maintained but in the upcoming years you will see that dollar crossing 500 as well , corrupt governments lead to worst of circumstances
Main issue in IT sectors in Pakistan is companies paying a very less salaries to their employees, as a result many talented resources leave a country and go to abroad for better opportunity.
amazing person. to listen.
Lawatat se bhi bachna chahiye
Lovely and great
Umair Javed was much more better and honest. At-least we were able to learn something.
Sir, is there a DSA data structures and algorithms round in these big companies or the interview is solely focused on the technology on which the person is supposed to work such as React, Next. Js etc.
DSA is must for big tech.But atleast you should go thorough it for at least once. As it will make you a good engineer
How this seemingly rational and pragmatic guy Muzamil is ok with imran khan's managerial abilities, vision, approach, associates, and above all else his totally insane actions in office from day1 thru last, is something I will never be able to make sense of
Useless comment.
10p used to be a solid company until 2021. However, their excessive hiring in non-tech teams led to layoffs and forced resignations. While Imran is great at what he does, Zeeshan seems to have a 'saith' mindset-if he dislikes someone, they're as good as gone. He even publicly humiliates senior employees on company media. Power is monopolized by a few, preventing growth in the three cities they serve. They're nice while you're working there, but once you resign, they treat you like an enemy. Talk about a supportive work environment! 🙄
Good questioning Muzammil. Keep it up.
Maa shaa Allah tabarakallah
Voice bit low
Muzammil bhai, thank you so much for inviting Sir Zeeshan. His work is truly inspirational, and his dedication to excellence is evident in his remarkable achievements. Sir, your success story resonates deeply with my own aspirations. It would be an honor to have the opportunity to meet you in person. I am confident that, God willing, we will strive to emulate your path and make a meaningful difference in the world.
I am committed to provide exceptional problem-solving services and develop leading Software as a Service (SaaS) products, all while upholding the highest ethical standards. I am determined to transform the world's perception by prioritizing my clients' needs, honoring my commitments promptly, and earning remuneration only upon their satisfaction.
(Bss Allah hamein seedhay rasty py chalny or sabat qadam rehny ki toufeeq dy)
This was great conversation very insightful and informative keep up the good work Muzamil, your doing great work for the youngsters of Pakistan. (10p employee)
Gappy suno bas chankro ki😂😂😂 sawal krny wala sawal krta ha to das dfa atakta ha😂😂
Useless comment.
Another Army Starkid shining
Very normal story from Pakistani Army Elite
Where did he mention?
best . Keep it up . Great work from your side .These type of conversations will surely pump growth .
I'm just about to complete my bachelors in English. But I want to switch my career towards IT. I'm following your podcast especially technology focused ones. It's been a great help to figure out the uncertainty in certain things. Kindly also talk about a complete road map as you know the experts so it would be helpful for me and others to start self-learning and make a career at least in the span of 1 year or so accordingly. Focusing on the resources and only necessary things to learn especially incorporating AI and considering future tech industry. Sir Zeeshan Aftab inspired me a lot and I think I will be working in 10 Pearls after learning necessary skills initially. I hope my comment is considered. Thanks to both of you for such insights.
I wish I were younger to join IT but I can advise you to search Al Nafi IT programmes. They offer money back guarantee and I have seen people getting good jobs here in Europe after they do their 9 months online course.
بھائی کرپٹو کرنسی پر بھی ویڈیو بنائیں اس کا کیا فیوچر ہے اس کا بھی بتائیں
Love from Quetta Blochistan Pakistan
No future 😅😅
Nothing. It'll destroy whatever you have
❤
Really miss these podcasts of yours.
Great Learning! Please try and connect with Mr. Irfan Malik CEO-Xeven Solution
Desperately waiting for this ♥️
Thank you Muzamil bhai for this
Please interview the McDonalds, Walmart and whatnot guy.
He was very insightful 🎉
MashaAllah Muzzamil keep it up!
Muzamil bhai back to podcast✨😭😭
Love your work, muzamil bhai. You are doing a great job. Would love to meet you one day
That's the person who doesn't exaggerate his journey.
❤❤❤❤