Patch 2.0.2 changed a few things for this build. I have updated the guide and the planners shortly after launch to reflect that. I will post a new video for those who don't like written guides about it soon. ❤
I just dont get it.. even with exakt the same Items except Mythic helmet I dont freeze or chill any mob. So why would waste 3 Points in skilltree for nothing? 😅
Looking forward to it. Hope you address how we apply vulnerable since the guide doesn’t show it yet it says a recommended stat is atleast +30% chance to apply it yet none of the gear on ancestral or mythic have it, no skills apply it, nothing in paragon.
finished Ancectral variant of updated build, infinite Dance of Knives works just hold that right mouse button and start with 4+ charges all as described in the build. Do not release the button even if you see its 1 left) no DLC so runes etc not mandatory. Bosses are melting same as Pit etc even with 2 paragon boards completed!
I'm Paragon level 170 and I can tell you this build progress terribly slow from Torment III and it's not the uploader's fault. Blizzard just doesn't want any class to upset their Spiritborn payers.
Still working on the ancestral version at paragon 99 now, i pretty much never run out of charges unless the map is tight or i get interrupted. Is evading a thing that this build has to do to proc stuff? If so how do i do that while spinning and not ruining the channel?
New Momentum Planner: maxroll.gg/d4/planner/yjmho0kp#3 // Old Victimize Planner: maxroll.gg/d4/planner/z41g30zh#4 - The Footage is exclusively from the Patch 2.0.1. Early Access Version. The nerfs to Victimize were already present and did not influence the power of the build much. Written Guides: Leveling: maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/dance-of-knives-rogue-leveling-guide // Endgame: maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/dance-of-knives-rogue-guide Going by what I have tested in early access, Dance of Knives should be the fastest leveling build in the entire game. You can use the Concealment + Shadow Imbue Snapshot plus unlimited Charges from Inner Sight right from the beginning. So you are a shadow explosion wielding, super-sonic deathball, waltzing through enemies. If you have renown from previous Seasons, Dance of Knives is also available from level 1. The main aspect, Star Shards, also drops from the Season Journey Cache! If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer.
@@SebQc Yes, Inner Sight doesn't give infinite Dance of Knives charges anymore and the Shadow Clone/Inner sight interaction doesn't give attack speed anymore
Probably still good enough for S-Tier. I have an update for the build coming that will fix all of these issues. Will post more about it tomorrow after I finished refining and testing some details.
I started Diablo 4 VOH with this build. Its fun and mobile. Only gripe I have is that you run out of charges for Dance of Knives (was nerfed according to patch notes), which then stops the skill. The add in skill to move 30 meters to get more buffs is in my experience not helping at all. So overall your spinning is limited. Unless I am missing something? I'm level 30 now. Thanks for the guide.
I also followed this guide. The leveling variant. It was very painfull snd zero fun. I did also run out of charges all of the time. I turned out this guide was outdated
Shroud of the False death is currently disabled I believe due to an issue/bug with it. Adam Fletcher announced this around expansion/season launch if I remember correctly
I know because of scaling still being weighted to DoT that Poison is absolutely still the end game. But I want just once to see a decent pushing Cold Imbue Build and the Dancing Knives skill seems tailor made for it. Mixed Cold Imbue and Disciplined Dancing Knives feed into each other and cause everything to slow/chill so you become nearly unkillable when mobbing and you get the ability to kite bosses which would seem ideal for countering pit mechanics Add star points, shared misery, cowl of the nameless, and penitent Greives, on paper seems to be viable at least for leveling and low to mid pushing. Can you test out or reveal a test of cold variant?
Hope one day we get multi element skill modifiers or items that aren't normally available, like necro getting shadow flame or sorc frostfire, or chilling toxins for rogue. So it reaps the benefits of buffs from both elements with a unique effect from being both
@@LastAphelion the alchemical advantage key passive does this to an extent. And otherwise the only limiting factor of optimizing cold toxin is literally not having the space for aspects. Otherwise I would be doing Chilled Toxin right now.
A lot of the Dungeon design make it difficult to keep charges due to corners and narrow passages. The new dungeons are great. Lots of space. In a party full of Spiritborn, they have to wait till I go through the rotation to get going again.
i really wanna play rogue but damn im worried its gonna be so far behind spiritborne and your gonna be getting carried thru everything. How far behind spiritborne is this build once ur fully geared and maximized you think?
This build can hold its own on T4 without any issues and you can push into T100 with it. No worries about needing to be carried at all. Plus, DoK Rogue is the fastest leveling build, so you'll be in T1 before spiritborns and carry their asses instead ;)
Spiritborn is the new class. It is OP to sell the expansions. After that, blizzard will nerf it and say"it was too strong", but the money is already in their pockets. Just choose a class that you can have fun, thats all.
I'm nowhere near endgame. But me and my buddy started our characters at the same time, he a Spiritborn following a leveling build, and I did my own build using Dance Of Knives. In any content we run I'm easily carrying him. The Dance of Knives is so absurdly strong.
I’m stuck on this as well. His recommended affix in the guide says go for atleast +30% chance to apply vulnerable but none of the gear show that affix…
I'm at 222 paragon and I'm not on the last board yet and I don't have my resistances capped @ T4. My items aren't fully masterworked but then some of my items do not have resistances so I'm guessing I'll get a resistance node at the last board?
Super nice. Couldnt play ptr and voh so im actually completely new to the expansion. Really hoped for a good DoK rogue still possible and T4 viable! Thanks will definetly follow your guide until i know more and can maybe adjust it to my playstyle if needed. Did the build take a big hit from the nerf? And how about survivabilty im actually so used to the insane tyraels we had in s5 and i dont really want to drop it xD I still can remember how hard fire floor dudes were hitting with dark shroud 5-7 on chest was still super hard to Play around.
finished Ancectral variant of updated build, infinite Dance of Knives works just hold that right mouse button and start with 4+ charges all as described in the build. Do not release the button even if you see its 1 left, circle FORWARD or in a big circles) You can be stunned yes thus hit escape and start as you get 4 chanregs/ no DLC so runes etc not mandatory. Bosses are melting same as Pit etc even with 2 paragon boards completed!
Can you explain the interaction between inner sight, shadow clone and dance of knives please? I've been looking at the tooltips and the only thing I can conclude is that it must be a bug, right? I would really love to know if this is intentional or not before I build up a habit that's probably going to be patched haha.
I'm still not getting how you make all enemies vulnerable to proc victimize, is there something i'm missing? so far I can only make enemies vulnerable through shadowstep, but it's only one enemy.
Hi, i play this build and it's really good but the written guide say "Umbrous is an important survivability tool for many Rogue builds." but which piece of gear do i put in? thx
Hi, much appriciate the video! Do you by any chance know when the Maxroll D4 Tier Lists will get updated for VoH and S6? : ) and insight would be appriciated if possible, cheers
finished Ancectral variant of updated build, infinite Dance of Knives works just hold that right mouse button and start with 4+ charges all as described in the build. Do not release the button even if you see its 1 left, circle FORWARD or in a big circles) You can be stunned yes thus hit escape and start as you get 4 chanregs/ no DLC so runes etc not mandatory. Bosses are melting same as Pit etc even with 2 paragon boards completed!
speed needs to be maxxed (200%), go straight line only, or huge circles. If enemies are too tough, go to the end of the dungeon and come back, just don't ever make turns, that's how I did it.
Aspects now have a separate tier of rolls which can be only found in ancestral items. You need to find the +3 roll on an ancestral legendary to extract it and have it in the codex of power.
how close is Alchemical Admixture to Victimize as a key passive. Thought for sure there would be more build variety to key passives in Rogue this season with the nerfs.
Unfortunately the nerfs to paragon glyphs have severly impacted Admixture. It has much less scaling available now than on PTR and landed massively behind Victimize in my early access testing.
Hi M1PY! Im currently stuck on T2. Im currently on the Ancestral building phase of your guide, but seriously, i just don't do any damage on Pit 45. I am 4/5 on glyphes (Paragon 140) and they are leveled up to level 30 all of them. I got all the gear required gear like just the guide says but still something just don't work. I have to say i hate the momentum variation, rotation between shadow and poison is annoying and damage don't seem to be as strong as the leveling build i used with Victimize. I'd use Victimize variation but i dont have all the pieces like your guide suggests (Victimize variation, end game build). I'm considering switching builds im so fraustrated!
Good idea to just switch. It's clear that they want to make all classes or skills that come close to spirit born they want gutted. I won't be playing spirit born but it is what it is.
I'm actually on the same path as you.. stuck at T2, Pit's 45 are really hard.. the damage doesn't happen and it takes a long time. I'm actually thinking about abandoning the class and moving to something else.. probably the new one
@@IIcultivatorII After wasting few days playing this build i came to the realization it's just not fun to pilot this skill. Its horrible places with doors, you always break casting and it tight spaces its just an absolute mess of a playstyle
Great work :) One question: Why don't you use Attack Speed (on Rings)? I tested this on PTR and Dance seemed to throw more knives = more lucky hits = more victimize (and now higher numbers instead because of icd) and more cc?! Thank you
Dance of knives has been changed to scale the base damage with attackspeed instead of throwing knives faster. You can see it on the description of the skill :)
M1PY I love you man, but move your lamp a bit to your right side, so you get a nice depth on your face and the light won't be reflected directly into your camera and blink all over your glasses.
Haha thanks man, great tip, I have recently moved houses and am in still in the process of fixing the setup. Time to get some proper Soft-Boxes! In the meantime, your tip will do!
Hello, thanks for your work! How do you think, will be this build somehow viable without that strange attack speed boost interaction? Maybe something without ultimate, flickerstep and No witness at all?
M1py, isn't it better to run Tyraels? I don't see the upside on shroud. Also, the numbers on flickerstep... Does the uptime on ult give better ROI than normal boots?
Shroud allows you to pull mobs together nicely, more reliable than spiritborn vortex rune. The additional defense from Tyraels was not necessary, even in the highest tiers. Flickerstep synergizes well with all this evading to get max Clone uptime for more dps as explained at 04:15
@@m1py don’t get me wrong I understand your thought process. Just wasn’t sure if the dr loss from TM combined with less dmg also from TM and the boots is worth it with the ult uptime and the pull. During PTR DoK was ok without the pull etc
I did the raid on T4 in early access and it was not a big deal. Damage output was definitely there so once you learn the mechanics it should be smooth.
the build is nerfed to oblivion, now it's basically a leveling build, using Momentum. You don't stack vulnerable dmg anymore, you do traditional crit dmg.
Patch 2.0.2 changed a few things for this build. I have updated the guide and the planners shortly after launch to reflect that. I will post a new video for those who don't like written guides about it soon. ❤
the d4planner shows umbacrux but maxroll shows asheara's khanjar, which one to follow?
Is max roll already updated? I’m on t3 and ready to transition to victimize endgame to get to t4.
I just dont get it.. even with exakt the same Items except Mythic helmet I dont freeze or chill any mob. So why would waste 3 Points in skilltree for nothing? 😅
Looking forward to it. Hope you address how we apply vulnerable since the guide doesn’t show it yet it says a recommended stat is atleast +30% chance to apply it yet none of the gear on ancestral or mythic have it, no skills apply it, nothing in paragon.
@caliprime3609 you need high lucky chance. At least 100%
A very well-made video-clearly explained, complete with descriptions of all skills, pictures. Simply amazing!
This is by far the most fun build I ever played on D4 so far. Thank you very much. :D
finished Ancectral variant of updated build, infinite Dance of Knives works just hold that right mouse button and start with 4+ charges all as described in the build. Do not release the button even if you see its 1 left) no DLC so runes etc not mandatory. Bosses are melting same as Pit etc even with 2 paragon boards completed!
I'm Paragon level 170 and I can tell you this build progress terribly slow from Torment III and it's not the uploader's fault. Blizzard just doesn't want any class to upset their Spiritborn payers.
@@bloedekuh yeah I noticed that damage fall in T3. Althrough its still fun)
Still working on the ancestral version at paragon 99 now, i pretty much never run out of charges unless the map is tight or i get interrupted. Is evading a thing that this build has to do to proc stuff? If so how do i do that while spinning and not ruining the channel?
@@oliverong3753 No you don't evade. Evading drops a bomb to suck in enemies, that could only be useful if you are running Victimize I think.
@@bloedekuh so shroud of konduras is not used for the evade effect, but the 2s immune?
Best rogue main content creator period!!! Nice video brother!
thank you for the changes you made on maxroll after the inner sight nerfs. you are goated !
Thank you M1PY, very detailed and im so happy this build made it past the PTR to live season
I was just waiting for you to release this build/guide! My Rogue guru! Thx a lot, M1PY, you rock!
by far the best fun build. thanks for sharing M1PY, appreciate your efforts!
Thanks a lot M1PY you rock!! Now just waiting for the big day!
Cant wait to try this build out, looks like it will be a lot of fun
New Momentum Planner: maxroll.gg/d4/planner/yjmho0kp#3 // Old Victimize Planner: maxroll.gg/d4/planner/z41g30zh#4 - The Footage is exclusively from the Patch 2.0.1. Early Access Version. The nerfs to Victimize were already present and did not influence the power of the build much. Written Guides: Leveling: maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/dance-of-knives-rogue-leveling-guide // Endgame: maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/dance-of-knives-rogue-guide
Going by what I have tested in early access, Dance of Knives should be the fastest leveling build in the entire game. You can use the Concealment + Shadow Imbue Snapshot plus unlimited Charges from Inner Sight right from the beginning. So you are a shadow explosion wielding, super-sonic deathball, waltzing through enemies. If you have renown from previous Seasons, Dance of Knives is also available from level 1. The main aspect, Star Shards, also drops from the Season Journey Cache! If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer.
did they nerf anything ?
@@SebQc Yes, Inner Sight doesn't give infinite Dance of Knives charges anymore and the Shadow Clone/Inner sight interaction doesn't give attack speed anymore
@@R0ksta2659 "fun detected"
@@R0ksta2659 whyyyyy :( it look fun
Wonder when an updated version is commjng out after the nerfs
Do you feel like this is still an S build without Inner Sight infinite charges and Shadow Clone ?
Probably still good enough for S-Tier. I have an update for the build coming that will fix all of these issues. Will post more about it tomorrow after I finished refining and testing some details.
@@m1py Thanks. Currently with high movement speed I don't really miss charges it's fine, able to farm T2 for now
No it does not feel good without the infinite charges
@@m1py hey, what about smoke bomb? we are not bombing anymore? :)
I noticed your dance of knives charges barely go down, how? This is what i hate about the skill so far. I often run out.
I cannot wait to try this build. Thanks for the vid
thanks for this, brilliant explanations and easy to follow.
I found doom bringer to run well along side the Khanjar dagger. Helps a lot if your struggling with survivability!
Doesn't look too good without runes, currently Paragon 140 and can't really do T3. Is it possible to make a section for us without DLC?
I’m level paragon 142 and it looks like i would need to buy the DLC so I can get stronger ??? No good
Wow. Thank you for this! Is this playable without the expansion? Are the runewords and mercenaries necessary for the build to work?
Love it when M1PY hits the scene ‼️
I started Diablo 4 VOH with this build. Its fun and mobile. Only gripe I have is that you run out of charges for Dance of Knives (was nerfed according to patch notes), which then stops the skill. The add in skill to move 30 meters to get more buffs is in my experience not helping at all. So overall your spinning is limited. Unless I am missing something? I'm level 30 now. Thanks for the guide.
I also followed this guide. The leveling variant.
It was very painfull snd zero fun.
I did also run out of charges all of the time.
I turned out this guide was outdated
Just maximize your movespeed, temper + movespeed per dark shroud shadows on your boots, also have some movespeed on boots in stats, it will help.
Sorted thanks - works like a charm.
So is momentum build better than victimize for endgame
if it helps, the dance of knife cannot be on the "SHIFT" key, put it on mouse or other buttons
Bro thank you so much. i love it so far and with low gear..
relax spin to win playstyle no longer exited for s6. what a pain, i m going to make character now. dam it, cryyyy!
looking at your latest build planner...
any reason why you are stacking weapon mastery passive instead of malice or FF?
Shroud of the False death is currently disabled I believe due to an issue/bug with it. Adam Fletcher announced this around expansion/season launch if I remember correctly
Great video , thank you for your hard work! You got yourself a new subscriber.
Can we get an updated vid?
Yeah, working on it, probably done tomorrow!
I know because of scaling still being weighted to DoT that Poison is absolutely still the end game.
But I want just once to see a decent pushing Cold Imbue Build and the Dancing Knives skill seems tailor made for it.
Mixed Cold Imbue and Disciplined Dancing Knives feed into each other and cause everything to slow/chill so you become nearly unkillable when mobbing and you get the ability to kite bosses which would seem ideal for countering pit mechanics
Add star points, shared misery, cowl of the nameless, and penitent Greives, on paper seems to be viable at least for leveling and low to mid pushing.
Can you test out or reveal a test of cold variant?
Hope one day we get multi element skill modifiers or items that aren't normally available, like necro getting shadow flame or sorc frostfire, or chilling toxins for rogue. So it reaps the benefits of buffs from both elements with a unique effect from being both
@@LastAphelion the alchemical advantage key passive does this to an extent. And otherwise the only limiting factor of optimizing cold toxin is literally not having the space for aspects. Otherwise I would be doing Chilled Toxin right now.
Can you add the section for non dlc players to the maxroll build? 'Which adjustments should I make without runes?'
Same
What about us players that have not been lucky enough to find the Mystique you are using. Any formidable equipment substitutes for them?
I'm reading the updated version of your guide and I can't find where the source of applying vulnerable with the Ancestral version is.
I can’t find where we apply vulnerable at all or where the temper affix is supposed to go either.
When breaking stealth from concealment, auto crit and applies vulnerable.
What about frost dancing knife? Did you try that out?
The kill time is marginally quicker with poison in my tests.
I probably just decided, what to play in the addon. Thanks! :)
Shroud of False Death
+333.0%% Damage on Next Attack After Entering Stealth
Do this counts for every hit of Dance of Knives if you keep spinning? Oo'
A lot of the Dungeon design make it difficult to keep charges due to corners and narrow passages. The new dungeons are great. Lots of space. In a party full of Spiritborn, they have to wait till I go through the rotation to get going again.
You did it bro.. thanks
If I play diablo 4 in season 6, this will be my rogue build
theres a bunch of stats to do damage to chilled. am i missing something? how are we chilling enemies?
Is it best to get damage per dark shroud shadow or damage after entering stealth?
how do you keep your dancing knife charges up mine always run out
cause ptr was full of bugs and the recharging one stack every 1s was up even when you were channeling.
Do you think youll do an updated video?
question, why get dance of knives to deal double damage, does it increase victimized damage, let victimized proc twice, or is there no better choice?
i really wanna play rogue but damn im worried its gonna be so far behind spiritborne and your gonna be getting carried thru everything. How far behind spiritborne is this build once ur fully geared and maximized you think?
This build can hold its own on T4 without any issues and you can push into T100 with it. No worries about needing to be carried at all. Plus, DoK Rogue is the fastest leveling build, so you'll be in T1 before spiritborns and carry their asses instead ;)
Stronger maybe not but I’m sure rogue will be faster than spiritborne
@@jays4834 it will be for sure
Spiritborn is the new class. It is OP to sell the expansions. After that, blizzard will nerf it and say"it was too strong", but the money is already in their pockets. Just choose a class that you can have fun, thats all.
I'm nowhere near endgame. But me and my buddy started our characters at the same time, he a Spiritborn following a leveling build, and I did my own build using Dance Of Knives. In any content we run I'm easily carrying him. The Dance of Knives is so absurdly strong.
So, is the momentum version better or is Victimize better?
This is like strafe with blades runes in D3..God DH
why do we use malice? we dont apply vulnerable right?
I’m stuck on this as well. His recommended affix in the guide says go for atleast +30% chance to apply vulnerable but none of the gear show that affix…
The snapshot buff from concealement applies vulnerable as well.
Crazzzzy good man 👌🏽
Got sylvanas skin and rolling rogue and spirit born this season can't wait to have fun with this DH reborn build 😂
Ty bro nice video😍
I'm at 222 paragon and I'm not on the last board yet and I don't have my resistances capped @ T4. My items aren't fully masterworked but then some of my items do not have resistances so I'm guessing I'll get a resistance node at the last board?
Super nice. Couldnt play ptr and voh so im actually completely new to the expansion.
Really hoped for a good DoK rogue still possible and T4 viable!
Thanks will definetly follow your guide until i know more and can maybe adjust it to my playstyle if needed.
Did the build take a big hit from the nerf?
And how about survivabilty im actually so used to the insane tyraels we had in s5 and i dont really want to drop it xD
I still can remember how hard fire floor dudes were hitting with dark shroud 5-7 on chest was still super hard to Play around.
For some reason i have alot of trouble replenishing my dancing blades before they go out, any suggestions?
You need to keep moving. Work on your movement speed attributes on boots and/or amulet.
finished Ancectral variant of updated build, infinite Dance of Knives works just hold that right mouse button and start with 4+ charges all as described in the build. Do not release the button even if you see its 1 left, circle FORWARD or in a big circles) You can be stunned yes thus hit escape and start as you get 4 chanregs/ no DLC so runes etc not mandatory. Bosses are melting same as Pit etc even with 2 paragon boards completed!
I got Aspect of Star Shards! Do I have to use combo points as the specialization? As it says it spends combo points....
M1PY, this still works despite the nerf? I ask because I really like this build
why use preparation if we dont use an ultimate?
How do i use the shroud of kanduras evading when i don't want to lose my snapshot channeling?
Can you explain the interaction between inner sight, shadow clone and dance of knives please? I've been looking at the tooltips and the only thing I can conclude is that it must be a bug, right? I would really love to know if this is intentional or not before I build up a habit that's probably going to be patched haha.
Is heir better than shako?
Can I get aspect of star shard in dungeon? Or just drop item
I'm still not getting how you make all enemies vulnerable to proc victimize, is there something i'm missing? so far I can only make enemies vulnerable through shadowstep, but it's only one enemy.
When’s the new guide dropping that doesn’t include the gutted victimize😭
is it possible to take Andreals ?
Does it proc with Victimise?
Hi, i play this build and it's really good but the written guide say "Umbrous is an important survivability tool for many Rogue builds." but which piece of gear do i put in? thx
why do i always run out of charges so quickly on dance of knives? feels like im constantly waiting for it to recharge
Hi, much appriciate the video!
Do you by any chance know when the Maxroll D4 Tier Lists will get updated for VoH and S6? : ) and insight would be appriciated if possible, cheers
This weekend :)
how does a guaranteed overpower for your next attack interact with dance of knives?
It doesn't work
how much attack speed do you have?
Thx you mate!! Do you think this build its good for hardcore??
love your videos brother :)
This build is GIGA-bait, not anywhere remotely close to being S-tier. It gets defeated by fucking doors lmao
Hey how much we need LH for no problem on t2? I completed t2 pit 35 and now playing on t2 helltide but dont feeling to much dmg I doing 😢
how can you do this mate? i have problems in a t1 and t2 shall we aint talk about, in 1sec i lose all my dance of knife chanel how to spin to win
finished Ancectral variant of updated build, infinite Dance of Knives works just hold that right mouse button and start with 4+ charges all as described in the build. Do not release the button even if you see its 1 left, circle FORWARD or in a big circles) You can be stunned yes thus hit escape and start as you get 4 chanregs/ no DLC so runes etc not mandatory. Bosses are melting same as Pit etc even with 2 paragon boards completed!
speed needs to be maxxed (200%), go straight line only, or huge circles. If enemies are too tough, go to the end of the dungeon and come back, just don't ever make turns, that's how I did it.
Love spin2win with knives but i dont like that every Build requires Fist of Fate and the „Main skill“ ist just a Lucky Hit trigger for victimize….
I actually agree. It's sad that rogue is so reliant on procs.
Did you test Death Trap build during EA ?
Very confused about the clandestine aspect showing at max +2 for me when urs is +3 ?
Aspects now have a separate tier of rolls which can be only found in ancestral items. You need to find the +3 roll on an ancestral legendary to extract it and have it in the codex of power.
@@djnatZOMG thank you
Is this good enough to beat bosses?
M1py for what do you have crit chance? Doesn't crit dmg do nothing to victimize?
it does now in s6 i think
honest question, did any one get baited by this?
it feels so clunky to play now with the nerfs...cant even sustain the spin
Move in fluid circles, don't take sharp turns, If you do it correctly, you will never run out of charges with at least 190% Movespeed.
how close is Alchemical Admixture to Victimize as a key passive. Thought for sure there would be more build variety to key passives in Rogue this season with the nerfs.
Unfortunately the nerfs to paragon glyphs have severly impacted Admixture. It has much less scaling available now than on PTR and landed massively behind Victimize in my early access testing.
Hi M1PY!
Im currently stuck on T2. Im currently on the Ancestral building phase of your guide, but seriously, i just don't do any damage on Pit 45.
I am 4/5 on glyphes (Paragon 140) and they are leveled up to level 30 all of them.
I got all the gear required gear like just the guide says but still something just don't work.
I have to say i hate the momentum variation, rotation between shadow and poison is annoying and damage don't seem to be as strong as the leveling build i used with Victimize.
I'd use Victimize variation but i dont have all the pieces like your guide suggests (Victimize variation, end game build).
I'm considering switching builds im so fraustrated!
Good idea to just switch. It's clear that they want to make all classes or skills that come close to spirit born they want gutted. I won't be playing spirit born but it is what it is.
I'm actually on the same path as you.. stuck at T2, Pit's 45 are really hard.. the damage doesn't happen and it takes a long time. I'm actually thinking about abandoning the class and moving to something else.. probably the new one
Use maxroll guide instead I cleared t3
@@IIcultivatorII After wasting few days playing this build i came to the realization it's just not fun to pilot this skill.
Its horrible places with doors, you always break casting and it tight spaces its just an absolute mess of a playstyle
Great work :)
One question: Why don't you use Attack Speed (on Rings)?
I tested this on PTR and Dance seemed to throw more knives = more lucky hits = more victimize (and now higher numbers instead because of icd) and more cc?!
Thank you
Dance of knives has been changed to scale the base damage with attackspeed instead of throwing knives faster. You can see it on the description of the skill :)
thank you
M1PY I love you man, but move your lamp a bit to your right side, so you get a nice depth on your face and the light won't be reflected directly into your camera and blink all over your glasses.
Haha thanks man, great tip, I have recently moved houses and am in still in the process of fixing the setup. Time to get some proper Soft-Boxes! In the meantime, your tip will do!
what are these high mobile dmg numbers even.. in this d3?
Hello, thanks for your work!
How do you think, will be this build somehow viable without that strange attack speed boost interaction? Maybe something without ultimate, flickerstep and No witness at all?
Yeah it would also work without :)
Iam confused with all the links ... Wich one is updated ?
Does the chest armor immune work with the umbrous aspect?
Answered my own question by looking it up, it doesn't trigger the immune. Makes sense that would be very OP
how do you access early?
Selected Reviewers, Diablo Partners and Content Creators were invited to play the expansion from 24th of September until yesterday.
It is like a press review.
Is it possible to clear Pit 100 with this?
Yeah, but you'd need extremely good gear and fish a bit for the right bosses
@@m1py Ofc we would need boss with a lot of minions.
Wie kommt man denn auf 190% movement spreed?
@M1PY when do you drop Momentum and switch to Victimize?
soon as you hit 60
M1py, isn't it better to run Tyraels? I don't see the upside on shroud.
Also, the numbers on flickerstep... Does the uptime on ult give better ROI than normal boots?
Shroud allows you to pull mobs together nicely, more reliable than spiritborn vortex rune. The additional defense from Tyraels was not necessary, even in the highest tiers. Flickerstep synergizes well with all this evading to get max Clone uptime for more dps as explained at 04:15
@@m1py don’t get me wrong I understand your thought process. Just wasn’t sure if the dr loss from TM combined with less dmg also from TM and the boots is worth it with the ult uptime and the pull. During PTR DoK was ok without the pull etc
How far behind spiritborn is this? Can it carry the new raid?
I did the raid on T4 in early access and it was not a big deal. Damage output was definitely there so once you learn the mechanics it should be smooth.
So, nerf did not affect this build? because they nerfed every class to put spirit born to be elite
Still great after the nerf
Hey, are the Tempering changes to DoK also included? Its a Nerf too.
Yeah but the base lucky hit chance from Dance of Knives was nearly doubled to compensate for this nerf.
Do you HAVE to have runes for this build? Trying to find a base game build
no, all works without DLC
Question, I see on maxroll that crit damage was added, why would this be?
the build is nerfed to oblivion, now it's basically a leveling build, using Momentum. You don't stack vulnerable dmg anymore, you do traditional crit dmg.
Is this also valid past the latest patch 2.0.2?
Yes, the changes from 2.0.1 (the version that I played, which the footage is from) to 2.0.2 don't affect the build negatively