Bug Out or Bug In? How to Know When to Go

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  • @MrLawOrderPrepper
    @MrLawOrderPrepper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I look at it this way:
    The masses of the unprepared will most likely bug out due to lack of resources and poor planning...
    Most Preppers will most likely bug in for the obvious reasons of preparedness and planning...
    Home Field Advantage is more beneficial...

    • @alchemist5704
      @alchemist5704 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about bunkering in when you’re known in your neighborhood as “more successful.” Would you stay home with your resources or relocate somewhere else and bug in a neighborhood where you’re not as known?

    • @karenbetancourt2744
      @karenbetancourt2744 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just wonderful, I been tryin to find out about "survival cache bug out bag" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Janameron Tenylan System - (just google it ) ? Ive heard some great things about it and my brother in law got excellent success with it.

    • @elimerrodriguez374
      @elimerrodriguez374 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers for this, I been tryin to find out about "bug out plan template" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Janameron Tenylan System - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my neighbour got great success with it.

    • @jc.1191
      @jc.1191 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Numbers matter tho too. That probably will be the issue anywhere.

  • @Nofretari
    @Nofretari 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Unless it's a forest fire I can't imagine leaving my home. I already live on a set up homestead.

  • @michaelwier1222
    @michaelwier1222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Some very good points. I would like to emphasize, "loose lips sink ships". Tell no one you are prepping. Whose to say your brother in law won't get drunk at the bar and start talking? Or your sister in law telling her neighbor how stupid you are for prepping? Tell no one, until it comes time to help your close friends and family. Thanks for the video, God bless.

    • @charmc4152
      @charmc4152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everybody talks, and a lot of people take it to social media.
      Unfortunately, there are people (family, close friends) most of us will share information with as we try to encourage them to boost their own self reliance in extraordinary circumstances, and so there is an inherent element of risk in doing that that they will, at some point, disclose information about any of your prepping that you've shared with them. What is the alternative though? If you don't try to help people to be self-reliant ahead of stormy times, you're potentially contributing to the problem of more people being unprepared if a crisis does occur. 🤷‍♀️

  • @Nofretari
    @Nofretari 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fortunately I don't tell anyone that knows where I live that I prep.

  • @edbuyers
    @edbuyers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great video. Yes bug in is best for non major city dwellers. Bugging out to the woods is a pipe dream. Food sources will dry up quickly. I live in Florida. Hurricane bug out is normal. However, that is localized and you always expect to return. Yes on multiple bug out locations. Excellent points and as always you have done a great job on hitting all of the points. QOTD = Bugging in is more preferable than leaving as a prepper. Your home is where all of your supplies are. Your point is spot on for leaving your home with timing. Most hurricanes people tend to leave all at the same time. This causes gas, food and motel shortages. We saw that in our last bug out last year with a local hurricane. However, each threat has its own life span. Hurricane vs EMP or cyber threat on the power grid.

    • @Imagezone61
      @Imagezone61 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bugging in is great if possible, but many people live in condos and apartments which is problematic. Hundreds of people you don't know in a small area, and people moving in and out all the time makes it hard to know who is around you. Also not ever looking to bugout into the Florida woods. Too hot, too many bugs, not to menion snakes and gators. I grew up here, so I could do it, but it would suck.

  • @avalanchereviews2352
    @avalanchereviews2352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Train and practice now. Wheather you stay or go you need all the training and practice now. Make the drive to your location, walk to your location if possible, have your bug out bags and supplies ready to go, put you bags on and walk with them. Train to garden, make a fire and cook on it. Get firearms and Train with them (just incase you need to protect yourself, your family). Do the things now and you will be better prepared if/when that time comes.

  • @Keepfaith1970
    @Keepfaith1970 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ❤️ Thanks for you tips. Preparing for both. Just that simple.

  • @AnnBearForFreedom
    @AnnBearForFreedom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Being an older woman in a wheelchair, bugging in is my only option. Its not a matter of a decision based on any situation-specific evaluation, its a matter of physical and medical reality. There!, that was an easy choice, wasn't it..? LOL

    • @AnnBearForFreedom
      @AnnBearForFreedom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheProvidentPrepper Thank you. But sometimes the easiest choices have the most direct flow chart. "Can I leave? >>No.>>Batten the hatches, hunker down, and hang on." Done deal. No muss, no fuss, no indecision. Puts me a step ahead of most, don'tcha think...?

    • @coppercat8383
      @coppercat8383 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's my situation-have disabilities that would make it difficult to bug out and then on top of that I am a caregiver for my 94 yr old mother with chronic health problems and mobility problems. I have and am continuing to get well prepared to bug in.

    • @AnnBearForFreedom
      @AnnBearForFreedom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @K Kr Yes, its a powerchair, but I do have a manual backup chair. I can charge it using a solar setup, although its much quicker from the wall. The only situations I could anticipate being screwed is an EMP or solar flare. But even then, I could use the manual chair.

    • @AnnBearForFreedom
      @AnnBearForFreedom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @K Kr Of course I do, but please listen to what I am saying: I care for animals, and we could not all evacuate together. Bottom line, I'm not going anywhere. Might be worth a mention, I once didn't leave my home/yard for 19 months. Before I had my powerchair, of course. Did what shopping I needed to online, or I grew a garden myself. I'm a stubborn independent old cuss.

    • @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
      @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Get a crew serve weapon so you can be stationary

  • @jublywubly
    @jublywubly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    12:52 If you have a gas hot water system, then it is imperative that you also turn off the gas to it, or the water will all evaporate and the tank may explode.

    • @pspcraft
      @pspcraft 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you... I didn't know that! You may have saved our family.

    • @jublywubly
      @jublywubly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pspcraft
      You're welcome. A plumber told me about it. I think it only happens if the water supply to the tank is stopped.

  • @cazkeymekam6427
    @cazkeymekam6427 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Realistically where I live it gets to -50 in the winter and I have very young children. Bugging out until I have a property somewhere else is almost certainly a death trap.

    • @outbackeddie
      @outbackeddie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. My bugout plan is a motel room. I just hope I can find one before everyone else does.

  • @natureconnectedlife388
    @natureconnectedlife388 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Enjoyed your thoughts. I just uploaded Episode 3 of my Disaster Preparedness series which covers the topic of Bugging in VS Bugging out as well. I used a simple chart for people to follow and answer questions to help them make the decision of IN vs OUT. Coming up soon I'll have videos with my tips on bugging in and bugging out as well, would love to hear your thoughts on that.

  • @GONEWILDFILMS
    @GONEWILDFILMS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When Wakandans (civil unrest) are involved, both Bugging In or Bugging Out becomes magnitudes more difficult.

    • @Lt.Fireguy
      @Lt.Fireguy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Care to explain what you are trying to say?

    • @GONEWILDFILMS
      @GONEWILDFILMS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Lt.Fireguy
      Don't play dumb, U know who does most of the crimes, looting, riots in this country and possibly the world.
      If U don't get the picture, then when SHTF happens U will find out real quick.

  • @NewHampshireJack
    @NewHampshireJack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, hey hay, I blinked and The Provident Prepper channel added over 2000 subs. WAY TO GO !!!! This decision making video has to be one of your most well thought out productions to date. This channel could also be called the PRUDENT prepper because of the great content. It may be a little disappointing to those eagerly waiting to go full Rambo in an emergency but common sense and experience tells me those with clear heads and a plan will ALWAYS outperform the rest of the pack. In my travels, I have been outdoors in arctic conditions as well as roughing it in some very warm and humid locations. Trust me when I tell you NOTHING beats the security and safety of home when you have made ready for what life may pitch at you. Bugging out from home should be reserved only for a life threatening situation where home base is at high risk for your personal safety.

  • @LovingIdaho
    @LovingIdaho 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bug out from where I stay . I rent an rv space in town . Home is 75 miles away . So, shows everyones reasons are different . So bugging in where I am at is not the right thing to do .
    I have been prepping since the 80s . I have over 30 stashes Not very much at my home . Whate are going to do if someone robs you of your prepping supplies .? One of the best things I was told was to spread your preps. If you have to leave your home , are you going to pack your preps ? I dont know about you , but my preps would fill my pickup bed about 17 times .
    There are lots of disadvantages to bugging in . There are also disadvantages to bugging out.
    In these years , I have covered all that I can cover . I have 4 water sources . Only one at my home . And I know most the area 20 miles around my home and bug out area. I know where the fruit trees , berries , eatable plants , usable trees , usable resouces are and more .
    If you live in a fairly populated area, I would expect the unprepared in towns to be checking houses they think are prepared , have gardens or livestock or poultry . If I had a family starving , what would I do to take care of them?

  • @charmc4152
    @charmc4152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it's good that you have an alternate site you can go to if you have to leave your home. For most people that won't even be an option, but even if it is an option, it creates a lot of potential issues, some just because the site is far enough removed from your primary residence, and some variables that are simply unknowns.
    For example, if your alternate location is another property with or without shelter that is owned by you, then in order to be sure it's ready to accommodate you in the event of a crisis, you have to be able to get to that site at regular intervals to check on it, maintain it, stock it or rotate stock, etc. If it's 600 miles, or even 300 miles away, it might be difficult to do that on a regular basis depending on work/life circumstances at your home base.
    Among the unknowns that could come into play, particularly if an alternate site is more remote, is the potential that other people "bugging out" find your site and get to it first. Even if it's just vacant land without a shelter, it's possible that random people fleeing just assume it's "the woods," and they can camp out there. Taking possession of your property could become more challenging and dangerous in that situation. It could be worse if you have a shelter with preps and squatters have taken possession of it ahead of your arrival.
    The other side of the equation for people trying to anticipate what they would do in a bug out situation is answering the question, "Where would we even go....?"

  • @Millerssurvivalandbushcraft
    @Millerssurvivalandbushcraft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will be staying home until I can't anymore

  • @user-unfound33
    @user-unfound33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm Working on a 3 month bug in plan for my apartment. But I also have a quick bug out bag for a week's travel. I do hope I don't have to leave, 3 months isn't that long but it is do able in an apartment building.

  • @traciegeorge7118
    @traciegeorge7118 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your valuable information. I was wondering if you would do a video if the power goes out in the hot summer months. I really enjoyed the winter one.

  • @ant-1382
    @ant-1382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Older person with a disability. Spent much time when I was young, camping, and back country hiking. Can't do that anymore! Got lots of preps, and a good location. Bug in is the best option.

  • @outbackeddie
    @outbackeddie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent job of analyzing bugout considerations and options. Without a doubt, having a plan in advance of a problem is the key to success. Everyone says their plan is to bug-in, but I live in a forest so "buggin-in" when there is a wildfire bearing down on me is not a realistic option. That's why I have a bugout plan. It's not perfect but at least at least I have a plan.

  • @markstrachan6380
    @markstrachan6380 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I will be staying put I have everything I need at home.

    • @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
      @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its pretty much everyone's bugging out is death

    • @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
      @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ it's the theory of going to what a cabin you never visit hoping you can grow food .... it's a tough call

    • @babyboy6657
      @babyboy6657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader most people have no choice but bug in because they were not ready .....then there's the ones that are ......just my thoughts

    • @outbackeddie
      @outbackeddie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think you will be staying put if you have a wildfire bearing down on you. There are things you cannot prepare for and things that will kill you if you stay put. You should consider bugout options even if you think you have a perfectly secure defensible bug-in location.

  • @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
    @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If your walking on the road your a target. If your in a vehicle a road block is going to get you.

  • @markcoraa
    @markcoraa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had plans. Operative word, "had". People passed, family structure changed. Age and other conditions now, put me at a hugh disadvantage. I will have to bug in as long as possible. Apartment dweller, so little options to prep more than couple months, at best.

  • @mkmason2002
    @mkmason2002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    600 miles is a long trip. What if there's no gas available? How much gasoline are you going to carry in your vehicle? Are you including enough gas in case you're stalled in traffic and burn up half a tank?

    • @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
      @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A extended tank diesel truck could easy get 1000 mile range

    • @mkmason2002
      @mkmason2002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader I wonder how many preppers have an extended tank diesel truck. You're being silly.

    • @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
      @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mkmason2002 well if your plan is to go 600 miles to bug out that would be a priority. You're not thinking logical so go ahead and walk it.

    • @mkmason2002
      @mkmason2002 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader Apparently you didn't read the entire conversation. The Provident Prepper said they have one bug out location approx. 600 miles from their home. So I asked how much gas they were going to take with them in case there were no gas stations open. I was commenting to you that your mention of an extended tank diesel truck was silly as it's not something most preppers would desire or could afford.

    • @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
      @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mkmason2002 if you can afford a 600 mile away bugout location but cant afford putting together a 90s Chevy diesel with a extended tank with trailer for less then 10 grand. You might want to rethink your planning. For me 600 miles isnt practical for a location because we only go twice a year to work on it. But ur your plan is to do that trek then you better have something that can make it one tank

  • @gordonreeder3451
    @gordonreeder3451 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the idea of "Aunt Beverly's house" as a bug out location. Here in Oregon, there are plenty of wilderness bug-out options. But, during the wildfires last summer, several people found that it was time to go and their bug-out location was on fire. If their Bug-out location had been a family or friends house, they may not have had that problem. Furthermore, going to someones house means that you are going to a place with a well managed, guarded, and ready prepper supplies.
    As it turned out, we had to mobilize to get MIL out of Clackamas Co. during the fires. With Me, BIL, SIL, and MIL living in widely dispersed locations we had a choice of places to take her.

    • @gordonreeder3451
      @gordonreeder3451 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheProvidentPrepper Yes; BIL = Brother In Law, SIL = Sister In Law, MIL = Mother In Law. They all have their own homes. It makes for a ready made "Bug out network".

  • @thomasstanley4284
    @thomasstanley4284 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm handicapped, diabetic and old. I'm bugging in. My home is well guarded between my dug & me. I will have my preps, meds, food & water not to mention guns & ammo. I'm staying home.

  • @jordanyang3066
    @jordanyang3066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    buggin in is best for me with 2 small childern, but if we absolute must then we will bug out.

  • @beccascraps8141
    @beccascraps8141 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    someone i'm in a local facebook group with was talking about how people put too many resources into go-bags. And I explained that i disagreed whole heartedly. We live in the pacific NW, and earthquakes are a HUGE issue for us. I pointed out that bugging out, could be as simple as having to sleep in your back yard if an earthquake renders your home uninhabitable (even if it doesn't, i highly doubt any of us will be comfortable sleeping there in light of aftershocks etc. ) So if you have bug out bags for everyone, then you have clothes, hygiene items, food, water, etc. We also have a tent and sleeping bags expressly for that purpose. So What i'm saying is, even if there are very few times when you'd need to bug out away from your neighborhood- like us, the importance of bug out resources can't be understated.

  • @inyayardhomestead5693
    @inyayardhomestead5693 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    G'day guys, Depends on the situation I'm ready for either. God bless you guys.

  • @ladybugauntiep
    @ladybugauntiep 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I learn a lot from you…just wondering why you think yore more informed than others? You’re definitely a sweet couple…I just wonder why you present yourselves as more knowledgeable than most?

  • @pauletteperson2620
    @pauletteperson2620 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I live in Florida in a mid crime zone I have home defense and properred to do both

  • @devinhinkson3798
    @devinhinkson3798 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have a community! Alone is not going to work

  • @alicesigford7459
    @alicesigford7459 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for let us know

  • @roxyjinks9643
    @roxyjinks9643 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most of my neighbors are old or preppers theirselves and if I have to leave If possible I’m going in my 40ft motorhome! I have lot of family members I can go to that live in the country like us!

  • @URBANGRANDPAPREPPER
    @URBANGRANDPAPREPPER 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    good video i am disable so i am staying put

  • @joosukas
    @joosukas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One should prepare for both options
    Plan A: Bug in
    Plan B: Bug out

  • @maritaortellado3187
    @maritaortellado3187 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Son buenos !! Porque no la traducen al español ??

  • @kit2130
    @kit2130 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    People that bug out are going to be low on supplies & probably carrying weapons. They will loot & they may try to take over homesteads in the name of “looking out for their own family”. People that bug in need security. Cameras, motion lights & defense, along with protecting any livestock you have such as a locked barn with alarms. I hope it doesn’t ever come to this.

  • @oldschooljeremy8124
    @oldschooljeremy8124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The lesser perils are unlikely where I live. Not much chance of hurricane or floods in the desert, wildfires unlikely to reach deep into urban areas, and if a volcano makes trouble here it will likely be Yellowstone in which case there will be no bugging out and we're all cooked. It's the big but less likely ones which remain threats. Though we are in the evacuation zone of a nuclear power plant...
    Should I have to bug out I will be going where no one else will be going: into the high desert, while everyone else heads for the high country, the forests, the lakes and rivers and farmlands. Probably die anyway, though. Most of us will if any of the big threats materialize.

  • @fingersmcgee2762
    @fingersmcgee2762 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    do single people have a agvantage or disadvantage???????

    • @alchemist5704
      @alchemist5704 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pro is that you can be self sufficient , con is that if you ever got jumped then I don’t gotta explain it.

  • @devinhinkson3798
    @devinhinkson3798 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live where other people would want to bug out to so I'm bugging in.

  • @ontariohomestead7135
    @ontariohomestead7135 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant carry 450 gallons...you need to work out more lol great video. Trying to do much of the same here at my home

  • @mrd7067
    @mrd7067 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Caches could be very usefull in both cases.
    Bivy bags are a very usefull item and can substitute a tent or even a sleeping bag in warmer areas. If you have a gun take it in with you and if it`s cold they usually fit more than one person.
    Tealights in combination with aliminium foil and a poncho can keep you warm at night but peacock pocket warmers and lighter fluid are even better.
    Peanut butter is probably the best emergency bug out food.
    Have boots you can walk a long way with (socks and maybe even insoles are important). Runningshoes usually aren`t (ask my feet, ballistol helps with the recovery with small cuts, open feet and skin stuff).
    Wet wipes are better than toiletpaper.
    Map: Waterproof, rip proof maps are probably best. If you can have different sizes. GPS works still when the grid is up and can proove very usefull. If you have a smartphone the app map . me works even without the internet.
    I pretty much have always a small button compass on me although i can navigate without but that doesn`t always work. This helps me especially in urban areas. A real watch is also usefull as is a backup phone. There are other things but this are often missed.

  • @hrdknox2000
    @hrdknox2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a lot to share. Not enough skin on my fingertips to type it all. I'll try to contact you by other means for verbal QSO.

  • @mixedgirlmemoir
    @mixedgirlmemoir 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if you live in an apartment???!

    • @alchemist5704
      @alchemist5704 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Provident Prepper What about bunkering in when you’re known in your neighborhood as “more successful.” Would you stay home with your resources or relocate somewhere else and bug in a neighborhood where you’re not as known?

    • @outbackeddie
      @outbackeddie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are hosed.

  • @pspcraft
    @pspcraft 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm staying, I don't care any more.

  • @rodneyreno5109
    @rodneyreno5109 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big Berkley water filters get fluoride out.. You can take with you bug in in or out

  • @luckylokomotiongarcias6152
    @luckylokomotiongarcias6152 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lex Luthor said people are no dam good 😒

    • @luckylokomotiongarcias6152
      @luckylokomotiongarcias6152 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheProvidentPrepper I respectfully agree, I was just quoting a movie character, but you all can't keep empowering dose who mean 🇺🇲 harm it's not racist just wise ❤

  • @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
    @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dig the Hawaiian shirts..

    • @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
      @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheProvidentPrepper well hope you can check out our channel and give us some advice. We enjoy yours guys

  • @babyboy6657
    @babyboy6657 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok I like some of your stuff and what you say ?...ok now the real question ....do you your self thinks that shtf is going to happen ?????

    • @babyboy6657
      @babyboy6657 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheProvidentPrepper I feel you only can do what you can .......and pray ....for every one ....but I'm sure every one bugging out if your set up for that is a ++++++

  • @KYLEAD13
    @KYLEAD13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    1 , don’t tell a soul about it, 2 stop wearing tactical clothing, 3 CONCEAL CARRY , no open display of firearms, no talk about weapons with neighbors, 4 watch what you post on social media, friends and family will put the pieces together. 5 no tactical bags, no molle, camo tactical bags ( for obvious reasons). 6 when it does come time to bug out, don’t kit up IE no open display of battle rigs or your battle rifle, something like the ferro concepts slickster is a good concealable Armor option with plenty of accessory attachment points.

  • @fingersmcgee2762
    @fingersmcgee2762 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    buggin

  • @spockmcoyissmart961
    @spockmcoyissmart961 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Say Billy Bob, you seen all that digging gear up at ole man Willis homestead? Ya, Bobby Jo. Some city slicker been diggin up there. He ain't buildin nothin, but he keeps diggin. I seen some big rig with a long tube on the back of it. Looks like one of them doomsday bunkers on it. We'll keep an eye on it, and when he leaves, go check it out. ...... rest assured, if you build a bug out camp or underground bunker, the locals will know all about it. If things go bad, they'll have it before you leave your driveway.