The Coddling of the American Mind: A First Principles Conversation with Dr. Jonathan Haidt

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  • @luvmusl2163
    @luvmusl2163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    When i was in prison Johnathan Haidt played an influential role in changing my life. His book, The Righteous Mind was one the first "real" (not fiction) books i read. This started me down a path of exploring humanity and what it means to be a person. I've completely changed my attitude and ways i treated people. Johnathan was the catalyst for that. Because of him is started reading books on the humanities and sciences.
    Now im not as angry towards people and more empathetic of their views and their existence (tho, i still love shouting at the tv and my video games. Its my therapy!)
    Thank you Johnathan!
    Now that im home i enjoy all the videos on the internet and the vast works i can easily listen too.

    • @jessebryant9233
      @jessebryant9233 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In your own words, what does it mean to be a person?

    • @theeggtimertictic1136
      @theeggtimertictic1136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it's all about perspective.

    • @obijuan3004
      @obijuan3004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Some people who go through life angry at the world have a great awakening when they finally realize that they are the traffic that they hate, or they are the line at the cash register that they complain is too long or too slow. You don’t get your own lane on the freeway, and if everyone got head-of-the-line privileges then we would have succeeded in creating a line of angry people. It was a shock to learn the universe did not revolve around the earth 500 years ago. It may also be a shock to learn the universe doesn’t revolve around us individually. We all share the same space, the same resources, the same frustrations, and the joy that comes from helping others. Without empathy we are just a pack of dogs fighting over the same scraps. We should remember that the “civil’ in civilization also means to be courteous and polite. Thank you for your time.

    • @luvmusl2163
      @luvmusl2163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@obijuan3004 thank you obi juan

    • @01jbeals
      @01jbeals 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, that’s powerful. ❤️

  • @BuceGar
    @BuceGar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The first rule of any conversation is that everyone must be allowed to express their idea, without this rule there can be no conversation, or exchange of information, but this is what some people want. Jonathan Haidt is a great guy.

    • @ericb7131
      @ericb7131 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      According to the Left: the first rule of any conversation is if you don't agree with what I think... you're a bigot and deserve to be shut down.

    • @s0.0s
      @s0.0s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ericb7131 Wow, you already know what "the Left" thinks before it can actually tell you what it thinks... 🙄

    • @stephens1950
      @stephens1950 ปีที่แล้ว

      1984 tells u to control vocabularies and thought.

  • @kspeaker5
    @kspeaker5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    One of the clear conveyors of sober thinking of our time. Right or wrong he starts with such a fair approach and attitude. The onslaught of media conjecture and opinion that his rationale attempts to check is, unfortunately, so immense. More like him are completely welcome.

  • @nonnobissolum
    @nonnobissolum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The material about which Dr Haidt writes/presents resonates sooooo powerfully. I share it whenever I can. Thanks for posting.

  • @jameshaluska7644
    @jameshaluska7644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've been teaching elementary school for 19 years and he eloquently expresses what he I have experienced in the classroom.

  • @alternatingcurrent8030
    @alternatingcurrent8030 5 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I've been reported for teaching Virginia Woolf's suicide note, which was meant to demonstrate that she was not the "mad woman in the attic," and she was a loving human being in very serious pain, and that we should respect her suffering. The report said I should use more sensitivity. I cry IN CLASS every time it's read. This kind thing is out of control.

    • @kurtkugel2365
      @kurtkugel2365 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Alternating Current remember this is not about values this is about POWER. Callout culture in its extreme form is a quick route to exercising immense control over someone’s life.

    • @shauny2285
      @shauny2285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Remember, the only person who can send you on a guilt trip is yourself.

    • @johnforeman634
      @johnforeman634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Although I’d probably trade anything to be young again ( I’m 60) in many ways I’m so thankful that I grew up when I did. If I had EVER made a remark like “I’m depressed, or I’m bored, or there’s nothing to do “ my dad would have had ZERO sympathy! He would have said “oh ya, I’ll give you something to be depressed about!! And EVERY father was like this back then. Families worked hard and struggled. There was no option to not pull your weight. I’m no genius and definitely have my faults, but one thing I can say is I’m an incredibly resilient person, thanks to no one coddling me!

    • @patrickglennon6834
      @patrickglennon6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnforeman634 nice post, I'm irish born 57, a strong work ethic was a given, I and many people of my vintage can still work with the best of times,. Do many " experts" out there complicating issues.

    • @loberleitner1
      @loberleitner1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@johnforeman634 -there is a less authoritarian response without being overly sympathetic.. We don’t need to solve their problems and we don’t need to senselessly admonish someone for a legitimate feeling. Why is moderation so foreign to our cultural remedies?

  • @keithbarnett3055
    @keithbarnett3055 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    During the mid 90's I was a Right leaning Libertarian working towards my B.A. in a fine arts program. It was 2 years of living hell. The Far-Left group think was so strong that I recall using words like "group-therapy" and "cult-ish behavior" to describe the majority of my teachers and classmates. I hated every minute of the two years, but looking back I do believe that the adversity of the experience has made me a better artist in the long run.

    • @clicheguevara5282
      @clicheguevara5282 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I feel ya! I'm a musician by trade and am an independent, but fairly close to being a slightly right libertarian. (Which is evidently far right extremism by today's standards. Lol) I grew up in the southern bible belt and now live in one of the most left leaning states in the country. Politically, I don't fit in to either ....and as a musician, all my peers are pretty damn far left.. But I'm not affected by political peer pressure and thrive on adversity, so I don't mind.

  • @ceeemm1901
    @ceeemm1901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Kids still living at home" needs to include economic/financial circumstances. High rents and inflated real estate prices play a significant part in young adults continuing to live at their parents abode.

    • @01jbeals
      @01jbeals 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought that same exact thing! It is a rather significant piece of the puzzle, now more so than ever before. Wonder if he could’ve added a control for these economic favors in his research, such as comparing income data between parent & adult child (generational income differences) with the cost of living-housing in particular. Given that it has become increasingly difficult to merely survive when you’re facing 20-30-40-50+% rent increases & the ability to purchase a home is just not realistic, it becomes self defeating when you cannot support yourself- even if you have 2 adults in the household, such a drastic cost of living increase is bound to have a consequence. Also, controlling for how millennials were affected by the Great Recession, It personally had a profound influence on me, i realized how precarious a situation my family was actually in, and how close it put our middle class family to the very edge , almost loosing everything. It changed how I view things & highlighted uncertainty above all else. But yeah, wish he would’ve controlled for this in his research.

  • @TheChippewa77
    @TheChippewa77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    "Bias Response Teams"...once called Bolsheviks or in a famous novel, the Thought Police.

  • @cathie223
    @cathie223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Exceptional messaging and content sharing for further study, including Jonathan Haidt’s books; The Happiness Hypothesis, The Righteous Mind, and The Coddling of the American Mind.
    Communicating and sharing experiences with difficult people is not only frustrating, it’s exhausting for most of us. Character, Critical Thinking and Maturity are antidote servants in our interactions with tough, brash, and toxic people - keeping our thoughts, emotions and feelings in check a requisite.
    Social media is untidily scattered with those whom seemingly unable to control oneself, and moreover a vested interest to confront negatively, as if an attempt to create communication or community.
    As you shared at the end, to counteract the lack of understanding or information, we must NOT replicate the uncontrollable responses and behaviors. Societal chaos is rampant with heightened emotions and feelings comfortably shared or halted by cancellation of thoughts that don’t allow conversations, which by in large is a social demise due to the anger or individuals/groups frustration fueling the chaos.
    Only if we can develop a culture that has cognitive ability and willingness to grow in our areas of character, critical thinking and maturity will we be able to consider a person’s standpoint and find common ground for solutions to problems.
    A lack of these virtues and principles is completely derailing our social fabric, as the numbers of people who are mentally tough, and willing to take things with a grain of salt is bringing us them down and paralyzing the Family, community’s and cultural difficulties/differences.
    Praise idea of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy in Academia Institutions, as an opportunity for future development and favorable if we’re all truly trying to embrace change for favorable outcomes… signs of good things to come.

  • @daneumurian5466
    @daneumurian5466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "Sometimes when we argue,
    A grain of truth is sown.
    If we humbly nurture it,
    We'll bring a harvest home.
    Thru respect and listening, we finally agree,
    And form a stronger partnership
    Than one found easily."
    --From my song "We Need Each Other"

  • @Shahrdad
    @Shahrdad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wonder how much our litigious society has to do with this coddling. If a kid falls on the playground and breaks his wrist, his or her parents are much more liable to sue the park or playground in the USA than in Britain. Same with schools and peanuts.

  • @triplea657aaa
    @triplea657aaa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My mom made me start using power tools when I was in elementary school. While it was incredibly scary, it was incredibly valuable for my development.

  • @TheFiddle101
    @TheFiddle101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Coming to this lecture quite late but this is still so relevant, sadly.

  • @richardaurre4840
    @richardaurre4840 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Grew up in the 50's & 60's it was like Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn; I don't know how we survived doing what we did.

    • @blueminnie13
      @blueminnie13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I know! I grew up on a farm and my mom didn't want to hear about any problem unless it was gushing blood.

    • @Leadeshipcoach
      @Leadeshipcoach 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I grew up in the 60s an 70s. Same with us. And my brothers and I were latchkey kids. We grew up playing at other kids home. Their parents fed us. We would play all day away from home.. with no cell phones or beepers.
      I am better for it!

    • @xfreespirit1979x
      @xfreespirit1979x 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Pouty MacPotatohead - Yes. I grew up in the 80's - 90's and I believe we were the last generation of children and teenagers with real freedom to explore, play, experiment, learn things the hard way... outside, independent, no computers or cell phones. I feel really sad for the kids that grow up now just surrounded by technology and fear.

    • @fumusfumus
      @fumusfumus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Pouty MacPotatohead 50's / 60's for me. One of our 12-ish year old gang was fighting another on our street and getting a hammering. Someone called his granny. She came out, told us all to stand back, left the fighters to it and to our surprise coached him verbally to stick up for himself! That day he learned he could never be a wimpy cry baby. In future he was careful not to get into a fix with anyone who could beat him, but otherwise he learned to stand up for himself. It rubbed off in his whole life and strengthened his character.

  • @worldwithoutwar8622
    @worldwithoutwar8622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There's a beautiful Yiddish song/poem by Itzik Manger (You can see Leonard Nimroy, from Star Trek, talking about it on TH-cam). A child wants to go and console a tree which had many birds tweeting in it, but the birds disappeared when they could see a storm coming. The boy tells his mother that he wants to go and console the tree and keep it company. Mother is concerned he will catch a bad cold . . . and worse . . .so she keeps putting more and more protective clothing on him. But he was hoping to fly like a bird . . Sadly, with mother's too-protective weight, he is unable to fly . . .

  • @mistymayhem2403
    @mistymayhem2403 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    We must reform education asap

    • @TheRealIG
      @TheRealIG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too late...

  • @tellyhow6281
    @tellyhow6281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now I can appreciate being a "street urchin" as my mother called me. Just being fed, schooled and immunized vs TB Smallpox, DPT and polio - I'm more than grateful!

  • @tuomasreinikka2363
    @tuomasreinikka2363 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Funny thing about giving knives to kids; we bought a knive to our daughter wen she was in pre-school. It didn't have a sharp end (sharp/pointy - not sure how I should say it) but other then that it was knive like any other - actually quite a decent tool. And she did like using it when camping etc. with grand parents.

    • @blueminnie13
      @blueminnie13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes! I gave my son a knife when he was 6 to the horror of some of my friends. (Swiss Army as he loved the original MacGyver reruns) He had hit a rough patch and it helped him build confidence. He couldn't take it to school, but used it at home without supervision. To my knowledge, he never cut himself with it, though it was soon replaced with a brand that had a locking blade which he pointed out to me was a problem (learned this himself). I remember he and his grandpa had conversations about which knife was the best.

    • @downtime86stars17
      @downtime86stars17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was given a pocket knife when I was about 7 and was going to Girl Scout Camp. Ok, yeah, I have a couple of small scars, but that taught me to be careful and pay attention to what I was doing when I was using it.

  • @chrishaugh1655
    @chrishaugh1655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    And here we are in 2022 and society has gotten infinitely worse because of everything he talked about here.

    • @wooddoc5956
      @wooddoc5956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Infinitely worse". Isn't that the catastrophic thinking he advised against?

    • @D-me-dream-smp
      @D-me-dream-smp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This kind of mentality isn’t actually helpful and goes back to the irrational expectation of modern society that life is supposed to always be good and enjoyable (my personal opinion is that media and advertising has played a large role in this since selling “happiness” is its founding principle). If you look through human history there has always been tragedy, wars, natural disasters etc yet these societies understood that challenges and difficulties are simply a fact of life that needs to be dealt with.

  • @manisthemeasure2205
    @manisthemeasure2205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The cuddling of the American mind started from its inception. We systematically protected the minds or the psyche of the privileged ones and subjected others to abject brutality. Along the lines, we took great pains to whitewash aspects of our history we weren’t too proud of, and replaced them with glorious tales of our magnanimity. The reason for the Civil War turned from being about the rights to keep and use enslaved people to simply States rights. We erected statues of treasonous generals who waged a war against the United States and tried to convince the people that they are heroes. A lot of people graduated college without learning about the Red Lining, the GI bill, the Oklahoma City massacre, the story of Emmett Till and his courageous mother and a host of other important but unsavory historical events that would have prepared us and made us stronger for this age.
    So here comes the internet and the information superhighway and some of of these facts begin to seep out inevitably from unofficial sources, with the result that most parents, who themselves are hearing it for the first time are scrambling to protect their children from the truth. They have fed their children about the cleaned up versions of events their own parents taught them and now come these other revelations they never knew about. The effect of of course is resistance and counter attack. And more disinformation.
    So we can blame it on Generation X, Y, or Z but this all started from the beginning.
    So now some people say “why aren’t we teaching Critical Thinking anymore”? Because Critical Thinking is likely to unravel all the lies we’ve told ourselves over time. It is not a simple coincidence that in America today we involved in a vigorous attack of the humanities, an area of study that aids in the refining of our thinking process.

    • @MrFringehead
      @MrFringehead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An old definition of conservatism is the act of standing athwart history and shouting "stop!" The declining generations, still carrying the trauma of the 20th century, attempted to create an artificial space where the forces that shape history couldn't intrude. However, some flux is inevitable. When we can't bend in order to adapt to the new shape of the world, we break instead. Because we never discovered healthy methods to discharge old feuds and prejudices, we're now forced to resort to unhealthy ones as we try to keep our nation united one way or another.

  • @littlebird3495
    @littlebird3495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Adversity is necessary but too much can really f some people up indefinitely. Some are more resilient than others, whether through nature or nurture. Obviously exposure to opposing values and view points is a necessary and healthy amount of adversity, is the point he’s trying to make but with all things, too much of anything isn’t always a good thing.

    • @m.caeben2578
      @m.caeben2578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It makes sense to think humans are predisponed to handle adversity. At least, have the ability to climb back out to a more suitable position. Still, it well what you are saying, there can be such unnecesary burden that coupled on bad situations can really make people crumble big time. Will, they be forever in the depths? That is hard to say, seeing there are stories of people overcoming some of the worst. If only we could become more wise and resilient, and be a center of net good for both ourselves and others. Giving more opportunities at the individual level seems like a good start, as to have less of that adversity conditions, because as you say: too much of anything isn't always a good thing.

  • @vaisheshchowta
    @vaisheshchowta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    22:42: there are two sets of ppl: ppl who believe the world is unfair and are atheists who believe in biology and evolutionary science. and there are ppl who believe the world is unfair and are theists who believe in hope and inherent goodness. everyone deeply, wants to do good. and this has nothing to do with seeming disposition, because in the heat of samsara, power is what'll rid suffering. but its maya, right? which is why its unfulfilling. which is why we want more

    • @vaisheshchowta
      @vaisheshchowta ปีที่แล้ว

      dont read this with ur fucked up phd academic mind, and grade this C. I have said things that are prophetic.

  • @maryamqadri4828
    @maryamqadri4828 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great speech!

  • @globalnikkei
    @globalnikkei 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    18:07 how much of the cohabiting with parents can also be attributed to fewer decent-paying jobs? I have to wonder if the minimum wage kept up with American corporate value, the financial floor and purchasing power would be higher, and the greater amount of disposable income would lead to more people moving out of the house.

    • @stevemcquinn1632
      @stevemcquinn1632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The minimum wage is what makes less jobs, the bigger the government wage will get the more people will get fired

    • @lancewalker6067
      @lancewalker6067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joleokach perhaps you’re both correct.

    • @rustymoose618
      @rustymoose618 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevemcquinn1632 This is patently false.

    • @theeggtimertictic1136
      @theeggtimertictic1136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Throughout history people have always loved with their parents ... Many times the wife moved in too. It's a modern day thing to be able to move out young

  • @Sinead-Gallagher
    @Sinead-Gallagher 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    With all the negative rap social media gets these days I'd like to add the following sentiment to the mix....I feking LOVE TH-cam. Without it a much greater challenge, and perhaps likelihood never, to discover this man's teachings and his leads. A feking Men.

    • @pete8808
      @pete8808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Suggestion: download as much and as many youtube channels as you can of ppl you believe in, while you still can., and find out where else they are and follow them there. We're in the last days of a golden age of 'free' information from youtube / google / facebook (or perhaps I should call it 'free wisdom'), and cancel culture will hit all of us very soon, if it hasn't already.

  • @jessebryant9233
    @jessebryant9233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you do when those who disagree define love as acceptance?

  • @elleb6342
    @elleb6342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    We are so far off track. -a liberal as sick of the left as I am of the right. No one can say anything.

  • @davidwilkie9551
    @davidwilkie9551 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good example of how the best of classical knowledge and experience can continue to be applied in the context of teaching and learning techniques.
    The false attribution of causal relationships with unspecified connections to proven authority, in contrast, is the likeliest actual problem with appropriate mental toughness.
    The definition of "Reason" philosophically is pure fakery in comparison to scientific Reasoning by methodological analytical processes, particularly in the example of Artificial Intelligence applied to specific circumstances.
    Therefore it is reasonable to posit that current Students are adapting to the circumstances following the failures of false and deceptive authorities, and unwisely attacking the messenger instead of the lack of applied research they are directly inheriting responsibility for.

  • @ainternet239
    @ainternet239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Two years later ... where are we now, in 2021?

  • @vo2897
    @vo2897 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You
    Jonathan

  • @daneumurian5466
    @daneumurian5466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, Professor, you want to divide us into two groups: those who believe unity is paramount, and those who believe we have important differences of opinion?

  • @daneumurian5466
    @daneumurian5466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    From my distant recollection, around the last page of a book promoting Baha'i, which calls for unity, the author claims that Baha'i is the only way.

  • @jeppep95
    @jeppep95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Haids misses the economics on the point of gen Z moving out later. Its just way more expensive now than it was before to be an adult, move out get kids etc

    • @t.soares1125
      @t.soares1125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I really like his views and arguments but I certainly agree.with you. Even my generation (x) had a harder time making ends meet some degree. My very working class parents paid bought a nice 3 bedroom home (in Canada) and paid it off in 10 years. I certainly couldn't pay off my home in 10 years. Also, generation Z has a lot more to worry about. They're less likely to be able to have one job, the cost of living is becoming ridiculous in some cities, there is a lot more uncertainty in our world (especially with climate change). Again, while I agree with his points, these things could also be factors.

    • @LaFonteCheVi
      @LaFonteCheVi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only half true. Also largely just excuse-making which only lends to his point.
      In the past, people didn't have ANYTHING, nor did they expected. Not cars, smartphones, fancy food, nice clothes, cosmetics, soaps, furniture, etc, etc. Even the poorest GenZ kid lives LAVISHLY compared to someone 100 years ago. You are only comparing today's standard to the absurdly high standards of living that existed 50 years ago. But that was an aberration historically.
      People have far, far, far, far, far too high expectations for life, what they should own, and how they should live.
      Most young people living with their parents could move out if they wanted to. Even on a McDonald's wage. Maybe they'd have to sell virtually everything they owned, carpool, and roommate with 4-5 other people, but they could do it. People did do it. People who were far poorer than people are today.
      His premise stands. Modernity has made people weak. Including you, Haids, and myself.

    • @LaFonteCheVi
      @LaFonteCheVi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@t.soares1125 Hate to break it to you, but that uncertainty has existed for most of our species. Try living in a society where a single food-harvest in one year could mean you starve to death. Saying GenZ has "far more to worry about" is egotism at it's finest and completely ignorant of most of human history. Or even how some people live today.
      What has changed is that people are too weak to handle it. You bemoan the coast of living in cities, but nobody is forcing you to stay. It is your own fear of suffering that is keeping you there. You are scare you throw yourself into something scary, painful, and unknown. If you wanted to, you could hitchhike out to some place else and do something else. People did this in the past all the time. Will you likely to become rich? Likely not. But this was the case for most of our species existence. Most people were dead by the time they were 50. Count your blessings.
      Most humans on the planet don't own a house. That is a right limited to the top 25% of people. That is a 1st-world luxury, unless you consider sharing a small building with 12 of your other extended family "home ownership".
      People need to wake up and realize the the post-1945 world we've been living in is a fantasy. A lie. It wasn't sustainable. People intuitively understand this from the viewpoint of climate change, but they don't seem to understand that it also means that the standards of living WILL fall. It is unavoidable.

    • @jeppep95
      @jeppep95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LaFonteCheVi do you expect me to raise a child with 5 roomates?

    • @jeppep95
      @jeppep95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LaFonteCheVi your argument is also odd because nobody is comparing themselves to people who lived in the 1800s. Its about the experience of zoomers compared to boomers.

  • @Rob337_aka_CancelProof
    @Rob337_aka_CancelProof 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    16:12 you should be pushing and doing a deep dive on Ernest Becker

  • @flochartingham2333
    @flochartingham2333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Being vested in truth would mean backing up extraordinary claims with extraordinary evidence.

    • @mimetrickster
      @mimetrickster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Self inflicted wounds among young girls shooting up well more than 50% is extraordinary

    • @smurch93060
      @smurch93060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mimetrickster ... the rate for self-abuse may have risen alarmingly for girls... but the rate for the same thing has also risen for boys whereas the rate for suicide among men, in general, has a higher suicide rate overall... one can also expect the strong reason is the rise of single parent households, particularly where the fathers' forced absence due to divorce and the gynocentric favoritism by the family courts...

    • @kellyrburton
      @kellyrburton 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Corvus Morve This is a bit of a sweeping generalization (which is rarely a good thing or accurate) and somewhat harsh. Are you certain of your assertion and have sufficient reasonable evidence to make a sound argument? I am not offended or trying to be confrontational, but simply asking a genuine question and asking you to reflect.

  • @SeeLasSee
    @SeeLasSee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My inclination to support cancellation of student debt just Plummeted.
    Top-tier universities are really crippling themselves. Are their any mid-year universities looking to take their place?

  • @ben.scanlan
    @ben.scanlan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Forcing me to go to after school programs was like the best thing about school for me

  • @JerseySlayer
    @JerseySlayer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I would love to see this man, the Sokal Squared gang (Boghossian, Linsey, Pluckrose) and Jordan Peterson on the same stage.

  • @jacobhinz9533
    @jacobhinz9533 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chapter 7 should more aptly be named the uses of austerity

  • @estherwiskel6550
    @estherwiskel6550 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRAVO👏👏❤️ABOUT TIME!

  • @modulator7861
    @modulator7861 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lecture... But dang! "We'll divide at the drop of a hat"... lol true...

  • @TeaParty1776
    @TeaParty1776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No coddling here! My mind is uncoddled!

  • @MrFringehead
    @MrFringehead 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    To offer an opposing viewpoint here in the spirit of diversity-much of the frustration, cynicism, and (admittedly) bitterness I've accumulated as an aging millennial originates from the adversity involved in succeeding a declining generation who (collectively) seem to consider the human condition a solved problem for which they have all the answers. As a so-called "gifted" child I learned quickly that "meets expectations" was code for "disappointment." I grew up in a "no excuses" and "zero tolerance" environment where I was expected to fulfill my potential (whatever that meant) and hold myself to the highest standards imaginable (for example, I received a long, stern lecture for "slipping" and failing to earn the highest possible GPA in one quarter-in high school). My elders seemed to be content holding out hoops for my cohort to jump through and trusting outsourced, prefabricated religious indoctrination to build character. Because they seemed to see the rising generation as little more than a vehicle to expand their legacy, they more or less ignored the internal processes necessary to truly build character and form strategies for overcoming adversity. I'm painfully aware of my deficiencies as a now middle-aged adult. Real adversity is novel and challenging after half of a lifetime of training myself in order to meet arbitrary, external standards of success instead of pursuing a meaningful existence.

  • @DMONEY7720
    @DMONEY7720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Look at the big picture you have Generations who are specifically being taught to be offended and if you're not willing to risk offending then you're not willing to think they're also being trained to turn people in who don't fit the narrative or question the ideas being discussed I think once this generation comes of age and gets into politics we're going to see a movement where people specifically try to get rid of free speech in this country

  • @edoboleyn
    @edoboleyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...Wait, Mill is considered dense? We’ve got big problems.

  • @johnquixote901
    @johnquixote901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    he drew a circle that shut me out, heretic! rebel! a thing to flout, but Love and I had the wit to win, we drew a circle that took him in.

  • @daneumurian5466
    @daneumurian5466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Re: the horse and rider metaphor, the Apostle Paul says in 2 Corinthians 5:14, Christ's love compels us." The Greek word translated "compels" gives picture of a rider urging a horse forward, but also guiding it. Putting that passage together with Romans 13:10, "Love does no harm to a neighbor," provides a solid foundation for ethical behavior.

  • @nv7287
    @nv7287 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brilliant

  • @THEMAX00000
    @THEMAX00000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have the president of a “Christian“ university introducing a psychologist who writes a book about happiness well promoting Buddha and Plato. If you’re a believer stay clear of Biola

  • @robertjones7327
    @robertjones7327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It is WAY too late for i-gen- maybe even for their children. At some point the i-geners need to work to earn our respect again. It isn’t possible to draw a bigger circle with such ignorance.

  • @git_t0v
    @git_t0v 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The lights guy needs jesus

    • @stephaniemcafee3604
      @stephaniemcafee3604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think Jesus is telling the lights guy now, to get with it!!

  • @robertbentley3589
    @robertbentley3589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    December 2021. BBC reporting that mispronouncing someone's name is a micro- assault.

    • @jessebryant9233
      @jessebryant9233 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So does one have to say "BBC" with the proper accent or be seen as aggressive? 🤪

  • @ewanfraser
    @ewanfraser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:50 to get to the point

  • @Rob337_aka_CancelProof
    @Rob337_aka_CancelProof 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    14:45 the word you were looking for is habituated

  • @vaisheshchowta
    @vaisheshchowta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    21:02 good and bad exists outside the mind. itsnt that the mind and the soul is what creates good and bad. thats atheistic. we live in a creation that sustains us. that idea of sustenance is beyond us, beyond the mind and the soul, atleast our mind and soul. infact being theistic means that our idea of good and bad is not aligned with our creator's. and when you love the creator, when you see HIS designs as being as the true determinant of good and bad, you accept death, and you dont think life is suffering.

  • @stevenwiederholt7000
    @stevenwiederholt7000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What are these kids going to do when they go out into the Real Word?

    • @jonah_da_mann
      @jonah_da_mann 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Steven Wiederholt Either: they became dangerous, spoiled brat authoritarians and destroy the entire country, or they all commit suicide, neither of which is ideal.

    • @TheGoobsters
      @TheGoobsters 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well they just slowly consume the company. It's already happening, especially in HR, education, and marketing

    • @stevenwiederholt7000
      @stevenwiederholt7000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheGoobsters
      A bunch of us had to go to an DR meeting a number of years ago. I put my head closed my eyes, Apparently the HR people were not happy with attitude. I told them I learned all this in kindergarten...Play Nice...*Share...Don't Hit. I got into Trouble for the 829th time in my career. :-)
      * I'm an evil ultra right winger...I don't do sharing! :-)

    • @soulscanner66
      @soulscanner66 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheGoobsters HR and marketing are bullshit anyways. They always attract people like that.

  • @Blastin7411
    @Blastin7411 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Victory lap for reason

  • @Rob337_aka_CancelProof
    @Rob337_aka_CancelProof 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:26 it's the problem that plays out in the Mouse Utopia Experiment every time it's tried because this is not the world our ancestors Evolved into and it's not even close. We thrive on adversity and fat comfortable lazy happy apathetic and satiated are certainly not our friends. You'll never ever see your true potential if you're not overcoming challenges.
    It seems all of our problems are a problem of too much success which is quite a novel problem to have indeed.

  • @patrikpass2962
    @patrikpass2962 ปีที่แล้ว

    He completely forgets to mention that living at home is because of the housing bubble created by the rich

  • @Nathanatos22
    @Nathanatos22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m so glad “iGen” never caught on. 🤦‍♂️

  • @georgemioch8981
    @georgemioch8981 ปีที่แล้ว

    Meh…
    The peanut allergy story is not what he presented: when I was growing up in Eastern Europe, people were not eating peanuts, it was considered livestock feed. Now people eat peanuts and not as many have allergy to peanuts like in USA. We do have other allergies, like eggs, strawberries, etc, probably more than in USA.
    People in USA started eating more peanuts over last 50 years because people eat prepared and processed foods, and those contain peanut oil, proteins from peanuts etc, so many more people eat peanuts than before. Genes probably have something to do with it too: people here have genes for allergies to peanuts, elsewhere people have genes for other allergies…
    Also his data about CBT come from web page about CBT and it’s very skewed. For clinical depression, most studies show that CBT has little effect in comparison to antidepressants…

  • @randyosborne310
    @randyosborne310 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    No better example of coddling is Affirmative Action. Affirmative Action is racist preference, for the sake of coddling .

    • @wiseonwords
      @wiseonwords 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      randy osborne - you have written this several times already. You seem to be obsessed with this little point. Perhaps you should get some help with your obsession. ;)

    • @vd1721
      @vd1721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In current times yes. Research has shown it's ineffective and now pitting one minority vs another. When established it was forcing groups who were refusing entry to others to allow entry.
      The problem it has become dogma beyond the facts presented. Hmm I think he spoke on that lack of critical thinking.

    • @randyosborne310
      @randyosborne310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vd1721 Affirmative Action's sole method of how they handled things from the very beginning, was the Government to "pick winners and losers." Terribly horrible and unfair... There was never a monolithic, across the board "refusal of entry of others." A very ugly imaginative narrative which they acted on.

    • @GlobusTheGreat
      @GlobusTheGreat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The point of AA is not to coddle. As far as I know, it's based on a systemic view of socioeconomic status and an attempt to make society more equitable. It's not explicitly about coddling people. There may be better ways to bolster disadvantaged groups and it may not be necessarily psychologically helpful to some individuals who benefit from it, but it's fundamentally based on a systemic view of people and groups and affecting society on that level rather than thinking particularly about the individuals that interact with the system.

  • @kjekelle96
    @kjekelle96 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that he has good points, but, as I see it, he doesn't seem to practice them very well himself. Take the Robbers Cave study for example: for one, it's only a single study, also the children were _suggested_ to have conflicts, and there were probably children that didn't partake much in the conflict, etc.-so I doubt that it has great internal and external validity. Of course Haidt gives other evidence, but another example is the study about children doing less of the activities than children were doing 40 years ago (around 46:30). Well this is obvious; they aren't doing the same things that were happening 400 years ago. This has always happened, it's what humanity is doing as a whole, quite rapidly and sometimes haphazard or even dangerously. Yes he sometimes laughs about his own confirmation bias, but he doesn't talk about it. It's as if he laughs it away. But I appreciate his bigger point about folk wisdom going to waste, to the detriment of individual and institutional integrity, and perhaps of human future. The possibility of our future and love is at stake. 🗝

  • @FloppityFlopFlop777
    @FloppityFlopFlop777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an inherently anti-Christian argument. Jesus ENDLESSLY exhorts us to be cognizant of the difference between His followers and the devil's! I'm all for rational, mature discourse that takes into account the pluralism of our society, but it's very dangerous when we listen to people like this explicitly pushing us to disregard differences, boundary lines, and drop any healthy sense of "us vs. them" in a real spiritual battle. And I am not talking about mistreating or slandering well-meaning people of different political views. I am talking about the danger of blurring the lines between good and evil, right and wrong, friend and foe. Jesus COMMANDS a certain kind of "dichotomous" thinking. He came to bring division. His Way-- through love, telling the truth, and leading sinners to repentance by example. Love the sinner, *hate* the sin.
    As an aside, I can't believe they allowed this guy to promote Eastern religious practices! Nirvana is not an acceptable objective for any Christian. It's tantamount to indifference, no matter how you try to spin it.

  • @ericb7131
    @ericb7131 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks like Trump's intuition has been pretty spot on. Oops... looking kinda dumb there buddy

    • @kellyrburton
      @kellyrburton 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please elaborate. I am unclear if this is sarcasm or something else.

    • @decimusrex92
      @decimusrex92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All you have to say is liberal and a Trumpy goes into junk yard dog mode.
      A great example of a programmed response and tribalism.
      If you don't agree with me ,you're evil.
      Trump worked this through his whole tenure as President.
      Totally missed ANY points Mr. Haidt made.

    • @lancewalker6067
      @lancewalker6067 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@decimusrex92 and his predecessor, how did he do?

  • @deforeestwright2469
    @deforeestwright2469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1 hour: we are stunting our childrens’ minds by not challenging them, and allowing them to indulge in confirmation bias.
    At 1 hour mark: we took John Stewart Mill’s brilliant work, shortened it to just the part that supports our thesis, and edited it to make it more palatable to modern readers. Ugh! 🤮

  • @iga279
    @iga279 ปีที่แล้ว

    similarly to peanut allergy, when you avoid good books or smart people you'll be allergic to wisdom, or, to put it differently, prone to stupidity;

  • @terriergal
    @terriergal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    meditation can also be very neurologically dangerous.

  • @vaisheshchowta
    @vaisheshchowta ปีที่แล้ว

    when people laugh at ur stupid jokes, and u arent their patron, it means they like u

  • @all2031
    @all2031 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Author is talking about inclusiveness in a Christian University. Inclusiveness means each system created in every society to think of itself as a subset of a bigger picture. The big picture is the UN General Assembly, the UN Charter.
    The five biggest powers of the world are protecting their turf and some are openly violating its Charter. Some even leave the institutions that promote inclusiveness because their economic/political elites feel threatened.
    The solution to our progressively precarious planet problems and threats to our own lives lies at the global level.
    Who is prepared to give up their tribalism, militarism, hegemony to save us from the looming twin catastrophes of climate change and nuclear war.
    Who is prepared to transfer funds from war machines to creating dialogue/peace machines for resolving the looming conflicts...
    There are wonderful people around the world, including this author, who advocate rational, scientific solutions for human created problems. However, the dominant economic/political elites keep protecting/expanding their turfs, concentrating more wealth/power for themselves at the expense of mass violence, increasing depression, anxiety, health crisis, etc.
    May the FORCE awaken the elites of the world to find solutions before spaceship earth extinguishes life due to the folly of a few thousand people running the command and control systems of the planet.

  • @newtalking3
    @newtalking3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He misses the fact these college kids are getting all classes via critical theory - they all look for things to make problematic

  • @zeruchofficial
    @zeruchofficial 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The irony of getting someone of Haidt's skills at a "University" that basically exists to coddle evangelical tripe is ironic.

    • @greenbank4800
      @greenbank4800 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      and he brilliantly explains the utter irony of your comment. Think about it.

    • @zeruchofficial
      @zeruchofficial 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@greenbank4800 not really (it's obvious, but not really ironic). He takes some amusing jabs himself in the lecture, knowing the awkwardness of the whole thing.

    • @jeffreyyoungblood7438
      @jeffreyyoungblood7438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@zeruchofficial I don't think you see the irony but it's definitely there. A large part of the video is him explaining how we don't see reality accurately but have our own bias which we come up with reasons to confirm. We don't look for truth, we look to validate what we already believe.
      Ergo, you're not seeing Biola university as it actually is. And I can tell you from experience that compared to most religious colleges, or even secular ones, Biola goes out of it's way to challenge not coddle.

    • @alanbuban9020
      @alanbuban9020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jeffreyyoungblood7438 then it seems you either didn't listen to their mission statement at the end of the lecture, or you suggest they do not take that seriously....to think biblically about everything..

    • @jeffreyyoungblood7438
      @jeffreyyoungblood7438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alanbuban9020 not really sure what you're saying, nor if you even understand what I was saying.

  • @JerseySlayer
    @JerseySlayer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    45:39 Solzhenitsyn. Cool. 🚫🔨🌙🚫

  • @johnadams2063
    @johnadams2063 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Little less mouth noise would be great. Jesus u can hear his lips touching!!

  • @toddklumb7855
    @toddklumb7855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are quite a few loopholes in what he says. Maybe he realizes it and he's trying to appeal to a mass audience. One thing that jumps out is let your kids get bullied on the playground but any type exposure to online negativity is causing suicide. It's a lot more complex than that. A lot parents allow their kids to get bullied on the playground but don't teach them how to stand up for themselves and a lot of those parents are bullying their kids themselves. When it comes to problems with sensitivity online it's all about overexposure to the internet. He is definitely on to something but very oversimplified. People have a multitude of situations and his speech could be very damaging for some individual situations.

    • @ronniewrong1539
      @ronniewrong1539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's a loophole in your commentary: some kids simply cannot stick up for themselves in the face of a physically dominating, perhaps older classmate and or in front a small gathering of classmates. No matter what a parent attempts to teach, some children don't have it in themselves. Nor should they have to. Its silly and dishonest when depicted in films where a picked on timid child merely preempts the bully with a rock or a well timed fist. It rarely plays out that way.
      So you're right, it IS more complex.

  • @oliverjamito9902
    @oliverjamito9902 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    From their own demise from their own hands molded the SEA OF GLASS. Came to pass. Is like walking on water upon the SEA OF GLASS. Beloved if I have to be a RAT. EXPERIMENTed on. WAIT A LITTLE MY INNOCENTS YOUNGS SONS AND DAUGHTERS UPON ALL DRY GROUNDS NOR THE WORLD. Beloved how long? Is like God's HANDS ARE WEST THE SON OF MEN AND THE EAST. What is melodies but thy INNOCENTS YOUNGS SONS AND DAUGHTERS UPON MY GOD'S EARS AND UNTO THE SON OF MEN. Who is in CONTROL? Bring all mouths! Remember sincere conversations comes with sincere answers. Is like what is an Aim? Washing thy feet and wiping thy tears from thy eyes. Why? The reason come time given. Is like what is a MAN AND A WOMAN THAT YOU ARE MINDFUL OF MY INNOCENTS YOUNGS SONS AND DAUGHTERS. SHORTCOMINGS AND MISTAKES AND GOD STILL CALLED ME A FRIEND. WHAT IS MORE VALUABLE?

  • @DonBean-ej4ou
    @DonBean-ej4ou ปีที่แล้ว

    Theres something very weird about this audience. Chuckling and guffawing their way through this serious subject.

  • @movie30000
    @movie30000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mr. Professor. Your logic is very faulty at best. Seems like a robber baron financed your book

  • @meio4744
    @meio4744 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does he sound like he's speaking to an audience of 10 year olds?

    • @TCSpartan7
      @TCSpartan7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, they are not 10 year olds

    • @m.caeben2578
      @m.caeben2578 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know, but I did really enjoy this way of explaining.

    • @TheNikolinho
      @TheNikolinho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      10-year olds wouldn't understand anything he says, so your question is invalid

  • @annjones3186
    @annjones3186 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have read "The Righteous Mind" and listened to many of his video interviews and found them very interesting, but in his new book "The Coddling of the American Mind" his liberal/progressive tendencies come through in a way that doesn't help the cause. He makes assumptions on things where it is obvious he has no real understanding. Especially when it comes to true Christian faith and how and why it shapes how true Christians (as versus Worldly Christians) approach life - which is based on the Word of God through the leading of the Holy Spirit. "Truth" Mr. Haidt from the Christian perspective is embodied in Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. "'I am the way and the truth and the life' (John 14:6)" It is not a philosophy, it is a PERSON. I would really like to see Dr. Haidt have a conversation with Ravi Zacharius. Mr. Zacharius says in his talk "Embodied Truth" that ....[Jesus said] “They that are on the side of truth, listen to me.” Jesus was not merely establishing the existence of truth, but his pristine embodiment of it. He was identical with the truth. This meant that everything he said and did, and the life he lived in the flesh, represented that which was in keeping with ultimate reality. And therefore, to reject him is to choose to govern one’s self with a lie." Mr. Zacharias also says,... "The battle in our time is posed as one of the intellect, in the assertion that truth is unknowable. But that may be only a veneer for the real battle, that of the heart, which even now the risen Christ pursues." (from: rzim.org/a-slice-of-infinity/embodied-truth-2/). I suggest you listen read this message and others by Mr. Zacharias, Mr. Haidt.

    • @valeria6751
      @valeria6751 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "in a way that doesn't help the cause" - what cause!?

    • @jeffreyyoungblood7438
      @jeffreyyoungblood7438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not sure I get that. This talk is basically expounding upon the failures of liberal and progressive tendencies and measures.

    • @docsspellingcontest592
      @docsspellingcontest592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment didn’t age well. Talk about a person who who governed himself with a lie…

  • @Seaileanu
    @Seaileanu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best to segregate into smaller political groupings according to principles.

  • @randyosborne310
    @randyosborne310 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No better example of coddling is Affirmative Action. Affirmative Action is racist preference, for the sake of coddling .