u. smith tried to say her reproofs was not inspired too. all of her writings are in spired , any one that takes a whole video to beat around the bush is trying to weaken peoples faith in her writings.
One thing is certain: Those Seventh-day Adventists who take their stand under Satan's banner will first give up their faith in the warnings and reproofs contained in the Testimonies of God's Spirit.--3SM 84 (1903). {LDE 177.4} The very last deception of Satan will be to make of none effect the testimony of the Spirit of God. "Where there is no vision, the people perish" (Proverbs 29:18). Satan will work ingeniously, in different ways and through different agencies, to unsettle the confidence of God's remnant people in the true testimony.--1SM 48 (1890). {LDE 177.5}
I love and respect the writings of EGW. Her powerful prophetic insights has given me great clarity on a host of biblical issues. However, when I wrote Secret Unsealed concerning “infallibility” or “mistakes” of a prophet, their pastoral staff openly wrote me back saying that she was infallible and could make no mistakes under inspiration. I then cross examined this stance by inspired prophets in scripture who plainly made mistakes though inspired like: Saint John of the Revelation (when he was about to bow down & worship the Angel), Nathan The Prophet (When he misspoke concerning David building the house of God), John The Baptist (When his faith wavered while in prison) when he told his disciples concerning Jesus “are you the one or should we look for another?” Moses (when he smote the rock rather than speaking to the Rock) Paul (When he mistakenly wrote off John Mark). What’s my point? No prophet is “infallible” or “mistake free”? Does that make that prophet uninspired or false? Absolutely not! Prophets (though inspired) can and do make mistakes. EGW even gives her own testimony about a mistake that she made early in her ministry. The Lord rebuked her for it by frowning and turning his face away from her which resulted in her feeling terrified. It’s in her own writings! Read it for yourself. The only “Infallible” one or “mistake free” one who has ever lived was and is Jesus alone period.
I thank God daily for His GREAT mercies to us living at the END of time when deceptions abound, to give us prophetic GUIDANCE IN UNDERSTANDING the Sacred Scriptures so much needed. God IS indeed merciful!
u. smith tried to say her reproofs was not inspired too. all of her writings are in spired , any one that takes a whole video to beat around the bush is trying to weaken peoples faith in her writings.
The very last deception of Satan will be to make of none effect the testimony of the Spirit of God. "Where there is no vision, the people perish." Proverbs 29:18. Satan will work ingeniously, in different ways and through different agencies, to unsettle the confidence of God's remnant people in the true testimony. He will bring in spurious visions, to mislead and mingle the false with the true, and so disgust people that they will regard everything that bears the name of visions, as a species of fanaticism; but honest souls, by contrasting false and true, will be enabled to distinguish between them. {FLB 296.6}
One thing is certain: Those Seventh-day Adventists who take their stand under Satan's banner will first give up their faith in the warnings and reproofs contained in the Testimonies of God's Spirit.--3SM 84 (1903). {LDE 177.4} The very last deception of Satan will be to make of none effect the testimony of the Spirit of God. "Where there is no vision, the people perish" (Proverbs 29:18). Satan will work ingeniously, in different ways and through different agencies, to unsettle the confidence of God's remnant people in the true testimony.--1SM 48 (1890). {LDE 177.5}
I have listened to the Great Controversy 1884 vs. start to finish and seen many quotes of from various writings and have found nothing objectionable in them yet so far with the possible exception of some specifications of how a tree should be transplanted which on the specific detail, I didn't find it a matter of any consequence. It is more how others elevate her writings to level of scripture that I find specifically objectionable and referencing her writings as "the spirit of prophesy" so as to again, present her writings as scripture, I find it misleading, repelling, unnecessary and counterproductive. Many people it seems are not satisfied with scriptural doctrine without the agreement of Ellen White and this I believe is to err. I have been to an SDA service where I had come to hear The Scripture and all the spoke about was Ellen White and about the health message. I brought my Bible to read along but never heard it said to turn to any chapter in it. I was sure this was not some place I wanted to return. In retrospect, I find no fault with Ellen White about it. 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
@@jirikloda4121 not sure about that, either only know she knew she was not infallible...and not to quote her unless we knew scriptures first?? That is a loaded question! Who on here knows scriptures well enough for that move? Keep studying brothers and sisters keep studying Gods Word!🤔🙏🙏🙏💞
really? where is your faith? rev. 12:17, 1thess. 5:19 Quench not the Spirit. 5:20 Despise not prophesyings rom. 12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, [let us prophesy] according to the proportion of faith; 1cor. 13:2 And though I have [the gift of] prophecy,. joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, [that] I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. 2:30 And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. note those signs happened in the 1700-1800 right when the gift of prophecy was given to ellen white. learn our history
really? where is your faith? rev. 12:17, 1thess. 5:19 Quench not the Spirit. 5:20 Despise not prophesyings rom. 12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, [let us prophesy] according to the proportion of faith; 1cor. 13:2 And though I have [the gift of] prophecy,. joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, [that] I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. 2:30 And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. note those signs happened in the 1700-1800 right when the gift of prophecy was given to ellen white. learn our history
@@jirikloda4121 Testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Spirit of prophecy is the writings of the old testament prophets that were talking about Jesus Christ and lifted Him up as the savior of the world. Ellen G white has that gift, the visions and dreams she received she wrote them in books, she also wrote about Christ and lifted Him as the savior of the world.
@@Mapenzi2635 She calls her writings the lesser light and the Bible the greater light because many prophets wrote the Bible but she is just one who wrote her writings. There is no difference between her words and the words of the Prophets, same spirit led them. We don't have excuse to refuse her writings, if you reject the testimonies you're rejecting God not her.
So is anyone else now getting commercial interruption on this platform? So annoying, to hear God’s word and then be interrupted by the worldly commercials so the platform is monetized.
Celebrating Christmas is not inspired by the Holy Spirit, yet most of the Seventh-day Adventist churches partake in some sort of symbolism to this on Sabbath. They also tend to refer to her writings in some interpretation that it is good. I am of the strong conviction it is un holy to do so. The Bible and study of it is primary with the prayer request for understanding.
Well Pastor Bohr's answer makes it even more confusing now. Because now we don't know at all what was shown to her, vs her commentary on something. We see in the bible Paul said he would prefer folks not be married. Now this was Paul's opinion based on the fact that he believed the second coming was near and that evangelism should be the main focus. However, God didn't tell him to say that but God allowed him to express that. How do we know in her writings when a similar situation is present vs what she was explicitly shown when those indications have been removed? Am I supposed to just take every word as inspired?
Well that's a thought provoking question but do you really believe that what Paul said in I Cor 7:27 and 28 is not his opinion or advice? I mean Paul basically advises that if you are not married, then don't get married. And he says if you get married there will be issues and he wants to spare them from that. Now do you think this is advise that came from the Holy Spiit of God? Because to me, it sounds a bit different to every other passage which talks about marriage. Solomon said he that finds a wife finds a good thing, but Paul seems to be saying marriage is trouble and stay away if you can. He said elsewhere if you just feel like you cant be single and will fall into fornication then marry. Would you not say this is Paul's opinion or advice based on his preference since he preferred not to be married? This isn't a right vs wrong issue.
Thats a misquotation of Paul, he was trying to say that, God gives gifts, and he was given a gift of Celibacy, and its ok cuz u have time to more great work without incumberence, that it shouldn't make u feel abnormal, no, its also a gift from God, as long as u feel that, but those who have to marry, please do.
What we simply need to understand is that, it is the prophet that is inspired by the Spirit of God to write, moving under His directives. (2Peter 1:20-21). This means that, the prophet is the one particularly inspired, and not the words he writes. But the former does not make void the later. It also confirms the fact that every word from God's ordained, inspired prophet is to be accepted as infallible, authoritative, trustworthy, and authentic, for "they are given by human agencies through the inspiration of the Spirit of God, and they are equally profitable." 2Timothy 3:16-17. As in the case of the Ministry of Ellen White, so be it with all the Bible Patriarchs, Prophets, and Apostles. THEY WERE INSPIRED by His Spirit to write by expressing things as they saw and understood them, the will of God for humanity.
EGW had the Bible as the primary witness; she has simply expounded on the Biblical records. Is there anything “she was shown” that is crucial to our salvation? Is there any of her writing that is infallible?
what is this all about,,,,,,,Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath. can you explain sir im confuse
These were called the festival Ceremonies and they were also called Sabbaths, and they pointed to Jesus, and when Jesus died as the substitute for the lamb sacrifices, the ceremonies that pointed to Jesus were fulfilled. Now, even though they were also called Sabbaths, they shouldn't be confused with the 7th day weekly Sabbath. The 7th day Weekly Sabbath is sacred and holy as its was established in Eden before even sin eneterd the world, but then sin came, for God to protect us from eternal death that sin demanded of us, God takes a credit and puts in a request and promises to pay that debt at a later period and he deposited an IOU in the Law bank and a promisory cheat was given as a receipt to God. So the lambs were the sureties until when He came Himself and fulfilled that which He promised, satisfying the Law bank manager, we didn't have to sacrifice anymore cuz the debt had been fully paid and receipted. So, Ceremonials law was there cuz of sin, to point out sin and how to deal with it, now We didn't need the Ceremonial laws anymore cuz now Jesus was amid us teaching us by His own example. The Sabbath is holy, and will forever be holy til eternity cuz its a remembrance of creation of man and the world, communion with our God and also bringing back a report of our weekly work in the vineyard of God, to be replenished and blessed and equipped for the new week ahead, fellowship together etc. Sabbath of the 7th day woiod be there even without sin, but thr Ceremonial Sabbath would not be there without sin, I mean, its served its purpose, and its gone, cuz it was upheld by Jesus, Hes now finishing His attoning ministry in the heavenly Sanctuary. Read Lev 11 for Clarity on Sabbath and the Ceremonial Sabbath, its very clear there.
Please put the Bible first! Even EG white said if you cant quote The Bible dont quote me! She recongnized herself as fallible...why cant members understand its not being derogatory! Its just being Biblical God! First, 🤔💙💙💙🙏
What utter nonsense 😑 that's like being in the days of the Jews and say oh we only want the writings of Moses 😑 Also keep this in mind, rejecting truth just because it doesn't feel right to you or whoever, won't change the fact that something is true... So my advice, keep these statements to yourself and don't hinder others from seeking God's words
The Bible is always first. Ellen is just a magnifying glass . But just because a prophet is fallible doesn’t mean you can disregard her because you want to. When Nathan the prophet said spoke on an important matter that wasn’t what God told him God corrected him and told him what he should say. God wouldn’t have given us her writings if we didn’t need her. But prophet are usually needed when when God’s people are that far gone, but they can’t read and understand for themselves.
When you are anti white then you will hive comments like this,ellen white has never elevated herself above the holy scriptures but I'm aware that many sda members are starting to question her writings and that is so unfortunate. But guess what those who are outside her movement are embracing her writings with joy, and even jesus said a prophet is not honoured in his town.thats what some Adventists are doing
We may be all inspired by the Spirit of God, but in the church one is set upon with God's seal of being chosen to receive visions and counsels from Him for the Church. Such an entity is, in a certain special sense, an inspired prophet for to speak and write God's words for us. He is Himself the one inspired, and not particularly the words he bear which are given him because he is inspired. Yet his words can be, in some sense, regarded as being inspired, for they proceeds from an inspired entity.
Your opinion and facts are 2 different things. How can you say something like this when nothing she writings is turning anyone away from God? How many people can honestly say they understand the Bible on their own. If you truly read her writings you would realise that God gave her these things to write because God knew modern day Christians would become very lazy so God makes His words easier to understand and yet still we're rejecting His words 🤦🏾 The spirit of the pharasees is alive and well...
@@shamarjames6717 never ever would say I could understand The Scriptures alone🤔💙 but, I'm not alone HE the Holy Spirit will guide into all truth! So...That's where I go first! Its amazing all We can have through the sweet Spirit..sister white has her place too! Just not b4 The Bible and Holy Spirit...God bless you
@@19818456 That is such a foolish statement and it's very obvious to me that you don't even know the Bible, the very thing you saying your defending is actually rejecting 😞
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u. smith tried to say her reproofs was not inspired too. all of her writings are in spired , any one that takes a whole video to beat around the bush is trying to weaken peoples faith in her writings.
One thing is certain: Those Seventh-day Adventists who take their stand under Satan's banner will first give up their faith in the warnings and reproofs contained in the Testimonies of God's Spirit.--3SM 84 (1903). {LDE 177.4}
The very last deception of Satan will be to make of none effect the testimony of the Spirit of God. "Where there is no vision, the people perish" (Proverbs 29:18). Satan will work ingeniously, in different ways and through different agencies, to unsettle the confidence of God's remnant people in the true testimony.--1SM 48 (1890). {LDE 177.5}
I love and respect the writings of EGW. Her powerful prophetic insights has given me great clarity on a host of biblical issues. However, when I wrote Secret Unsealed concerning “infallibility” or “mistakes” of a prophet, their pastoral staff openly wrote me back saying that she was infallible and could make no mistakes under inspiration. I then cross examined this stance by inspired prophets in scripture who plainly made mistakes though inspired like: Saint John of the Revelation (when he was about to bow down & worship the Angel), Nathan The Prophet (When he misspoke concerning David building the house of God), John The Baptist (When his faith wavered while in prison) when he told his disciples concerning Jesus “are you the one or should we look for another?” Moses (when he smote the rock rather than speaking to the Rock) Paul (When he mistakenly wrote off John Mark). What’s my point? No prophet is “infallible” or “mistake free”? Does that make that prophet uninspired or false? Absolutely not! Prophets (though inspired) can and do make mistakes. EGW even gives her own testimony about a mistake that she made early in her ministry. The Lord rebuked her for it by frowning and turning his face away from her which resulted in her feeling terrified. It’s in her own writings! Read it for yourself. The only “Infallible” one or “mistake free” one who has ever lived was and is Jesus alone period.
I thank God daily for His GREAT mercies to us living at the END of time when deceptions abound, to give us prophetic GUIDANCE IN UNDERSTANDING the Sacred Scriptures so much needed. God IS indeed merciful!
u. smith tried to say her reproofs was not inspired too. all of her writings are in spired , any one that takes a whole video to beat around the bush is trying to weaken peoples faith in her writings.
Not prophetic. Check the meaning please.
The very last deception of Satan will be to make of none effect the testimony of the Spirit of God. "Where there is no vision, the people perish." Proverbs 29:18. Satan will work ingeniously, in different ways and through different agencies, to unsettle the confidence of God's remnant people in the true testimony. He will bring in spurious visions, to mislead and mingle the false with the true, and so disgust people that they will regard everything that bears the name of visions, as a species of fanaticism; but honest souls, by contrasting false and true, will be enabled to distinguish between them. {FLB 296.6}
One thing is certain: Those Seventh-day Adventists who take their stand under Satan's banner will first give up their faith in the warnings and reproofs contained in the Testimonies of God's Spirit.--3SM 84 (1903). {LDE 177.4}
The very last deception of Satan will be to make of none effect the testimony of the Spirit of God. "Where there is no vision, the people perish" (Proverbs 29:18). Satan will work ingeniously, in different ways and through different agencies, to unsettle the confidence of God's remnant people in the true testimony.--1SM 48 (1890). {LDE 177.5}
@@richardtite8469 THEN YOU ARE NOT A TRUE SDA. BECAUSE SHE IS A PROPHET.
God Bless your ministry 🙏🏻
I have listened to the Great Controversy 1884 vs. start to finish and seen many quotes of from various writings and have found nothing objectionable in them yet so far with the possible exception of some specifications of how a tree should be transplanted which on the specific detail, I didn't find it a matter of any consequence. It is more how others elevate her writings to level of scripture that I find specifically objectionable and referencing her writings as "the spirit of prophesy" so as to again, present her writings as scripture, I find it misleading, repelling, unnecessary and counterproductive. Many people it seems are not satisfied with scriptural doctrine without the agreement of Ellen White and this I believe is to err. I have been to an SDA service where I had come to hear The Scripture and all the spoke about was Ellen White and about the health message. I brought my Bible to read along but never heard it said to turn to any chapter in it. I was sure this was not some place I wanted to return. In retrospect, I find no fault with Ellen White about it.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
In these End Times we need to know how to explain our beliefs by the Bible .
🙏💚🙏
How is it possible to connect the EGW writings with the Revelation 19.10 text???
@@jirikloda4121 not sure about that, either only know she knew she was not infallible...and not to quote her unless we knew scriptures first?? That is a loaded question! Who on here knows scriptures well enough for that move? Keep studying brothers and sisters keep studying Gods Word!🤔🙏🙏🙏💞
really? where is your faith? rev. 12:17, 1thess. 5:19 Quench not the Spirit.
5:20 Despise not prophesyings
rom. 12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, [let us prophesy] according to the proportion of faith; 1cor. 13:2 And though I have [the gift of] prophecy,. joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, [that] I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
2:30 And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
note those signs happened in the 1700-1800 right when the gift of prophecy was given to ellen white. learn our history
really? where is your faith? rev. 12:17, 1thess. 5:19 Quench not the Spirit.
5:20 Despise not prophesyings
rom. 12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, [let us prophesy] according to the proportion of faith; 1cor. 13:2 And though I have [the gift of] prophecy,. joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, [that] I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
2:30 And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
note those signs happened in the 1700-1800 right when the gift of prophecy was given to ellen white. learn our history
@@jirikloda4121 Testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
Spirit of prophecy is the writings of the old testament prophets that were talking about Jesus Christ and lifted Him up as the savior of the world.
Ellen G white has that gift, the visions and dreams she received she wrote them in books, she also wrote about Christ and lifted Him as the savior of the world.
E. G. White compared her writings with lesser light. The greater light being the bible, there is no need of the moon when the sun is shining.
@@Mapenzi2635 She calls her writings the lesser light and the Bible the greater light because many prophets wrote the Bible but she is just one who wrote her writings.
There is no difference between her words and the words of the Prophets, same spirit led them.
We don't have excuse to refuse her writings, if you reject the testimonies you're rejecting God not her.
So is anyone else now getting commercial interruption on this platform? So annoying, to hear God’s word and then be interrupted by the worldly commercials so the platform is monetized.
Celebrating Christmas is not inspired by the Holy Spirit, yet most of the Seventh-day Adventist churches partake in some sort of symbolism to this on Sabbath. They also tend to refer to her writings in some interpretation that it is good. I am of the strong conviction it is un holy to do so. The Bible and study of it is primary with the prayer request for understanding.
Well Pastor Bohr's answer makes it even more confusing now. Because now we don't know at all what was shown to her, vs her commentary on something. We see in the bible Paul said he would prefer folks not be married. Now this was Paul's opinion based on the fact that he believed the second coming was near and that evangelism should be the main focus. However, God didn't tell him to say that but God allowed him to express that. How do we know in her writings when a similar situation is present vs what she was explicitly shown when those indications have been removed? Am I supposed to just take every word as inspired?
What!
Great point!
So Please, how do you reconcile what Paul said which you said is his opinion to 2 Timothy 3:16-17. Can the Spirit inspire Opinions?
Well that's a thought provoking question but do you really believe that what Paul said in I Cor 7:27 and 28 is not his opinion or advice? I mean Paul basically advises that if you are not married, then don't get married. And he says if you get married there will be issues and he wants to spare them from that. Now do you think this is advise that came from the Holy Spiit of God? Because to me, it sounds a bit different to every other passage which talks about marriage. Solomon said he that finds a wife finds a good thing, but Paul seems to be saying marriage is trouble and stay away if you can. He said elsewhere if you just feel like you cant be single and will fall into fornication then marry. Would you not say this is Paul's opinion or advice based on his preference since he preferred not to be married? This isn't a right vs wrong issue.
Thats a misquotation of Paul, he was trying to say that, God gives gifts, and he was given a gift of Celibacy, and its ok cuz u have time to more great work without incumberence, that it shouldn't make u feel abnormal, no, its also a gift from God, as long as u feel that, but those who have to marry, please do.
Kenneth S. Kantzer.
Eternity Magazine December 1956.
The Wheaton College Position on Inspiration.
What we simply need to understand is that, it is the prophet that is inspired by the Spirit of God to write, moving under His directives. (2Peter 1:20-21). This means that, the prophet is the one particularly inspired, and not the words he writes. But the former does not make void the later. It also confirms the fact that every word from God's ordained, inspired prophet is to be accepted as infallible, authoritative, trustworthy, and authentic, for "they are given by human agencies through the inspiration of the Spirit of God, and they are equally profitable." 2Timothy 3:16-17. As in the case of the Ministry of Ellen White, so be it with all the Bible Patriarchs, Prophets, and Apostles. THEY WERE INSPIRED by His Spirit to write by expressing things as they saw and understood them, the will of God for humanity.
EGW had the Bible as the primary witness; she has simply expounded on the Biblical records.
Is there anything “she was shown” that is crucial to our salvation?
Is there any of her writing that is infallible?
what is this all about,,,,,,,Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath. can you explain sir im confuse
These were called the festival Ceremonies and they were also called Sabbaths, and they pointed to Jesus, and when Jesus died as the substitute for the lamb sacrifices, the ceremonies that pointed to Jesus were fulfilled.
Now, even though they were also called Sabbaths, they shouldn't be confused with the 7th day weekly Sabbath.
The 7th day Weekly Sabbath is sacred and holy as its was established in Eden before even sin eneterd the world, but then sin came, for God to protect us from eternal death that sin demanded of us, God takes a credit and puts in a request and promises to pay that debt at a later period and he deposited an IOU in the Law bank and a promisory cheat was given as a receipt to God. So the lambs were the sureties until when He came Himself and fulfilled that which He promised, satisfying the Law bank manager, we didn't have to sacrifice anymore cuz the debt had been fully paid and receipted.
So, Ceremonials law was there cuz of sin, to point out sin and how to deal with it, now We didn't need the Ceremonial laws anymore cuz now Jesus was amid us teaching us by His own example.
The Sabbath is holy, and will forever be holy til eternity cuz its a remembrance of creation of man and the world, communion with our God and also bringing back a report of our weekly work in the vineyard of God, to be replenished and blessed and equipped for the new week ahead, fellowship together etc.
Sabbath of the 7th day woiod be there even without sin, but thr Ceremonial Sabbath would not be there without sin, I mean, its served its purpose, and its gone, cuz it was upheld by Jesus, Hes now finishing His attoning ministry in the heavenly Sanctuary.
Read Lev 11 for Clarity on Sabbath and the Ceremonial Sabbath, its very clear there.
Please put the Bible first! Even EG white said if you cant quote The Bible dont quote me! She recongnized herself as fallible...why cant members understand its not being derogatory! Its just being Biblical God! First, 🤔💙💙💙🙏
What utter nonsense 😑 that's like being in the days of the Jews and say oh we only want the writings of Moses 😑 Also keep this in mind, rejecting truth just because it doesn't feel right to you or whoever, won't change the fact that something is true... So my advice, keep these statements to yourself and don't hinder others from seeking God's words
@CEBGRACE well put. That's exactly as I would have worded it.
The Bible is always first. Ellen is just a magnifying glass . But just because a prophet is fallible doesn’t mean you can disregard her because you want to.
When Nathan the prophet said spoke on an important matter that wasn’t what God told him God corrected him and told him what he should say.
God wouldn’t have given us her writings if we didn’t need her. But prophet are usually needed when when God’s people are that far gone, but they can’t read and understand for themselves.
When you are anti white then you will hive comments like this,ellen white has never elevated herself above the holy scriptures but I'm aware that many sda members are starting to question her writings and that is so unfortunate. But guess what those who are outside her movement are embracing her writings with joy, and even jesus said a prophet is not honoured in his town.thats what some Adventists are doing
The bible first, EGW next. No problem there
Seventh-day Adventists Answer Questions on Doctrine 1957.
It is offensive to portray EGW as a Hebrew Prophet.
All the Word of God was written under the influence of the Holy Spirit! Thats what the Bible says...about Pauls writtings ..or Bible 🤔🙏
But not her wrotings in any sense! They are plagiarised😮😢
We may be all inspired by the Spirit of God, but in the church one is set upon with God's seal of being chosen to receive visions and counsels from Him for the Church. Such an entity is, in a certain special sense, an inspired prophet for to speak and write God's words for us. He is Himself the one inspired, and not particularly the words he bear which are given him because he is inspired. Yet his words can be, in some sense, regarded as being inspired, for they proceeds from an inspired entity.
Eternity Magazine June 1950.
*Spiritual Discernment, or How to Read Spiritual Books.
By - Editor Donald Grey Barnhouse.
The Bible is enough...no need to more.
Im sure not all she wrote was inspired! She was not perfect! 🤔🙏🙏💙
Your opinion and facts are 2 different things. How can you say something like this when nothing she writings is turning anyone away from God? How many people can honestly say they understand the Bible on their own. If you truly read her writings you would realise that God gave her these things to write because God knew modern day Christians would become very lazy so God makes His words easier to understand and yet still we're rejecting His words 🤦🏾 The spirit of the pharasees is alive and well...
@@shamarjames6717 never ever would say I could understand The Scriptures alone🤔💙 but, I'm not alone HE the Holy Spirit will guide into all truth! So...That's where I go first! Its amazing all We can have through the sweet Spirit..sister white has her place too! Just not b4 The Bible and Holy Spirit...God bless you
Nothing she has ever written was inspired😮😂
@@CEBGRACE Who is saying the spirit of prophecy comes first?
@@19818456 That is such a foolish statement and it's very obvious to me that you don't even know the Bible, the very thing you saying your defending is actually rejecting 😞
No. Her writngs are not inspired.