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🍳🥐☕📖✨...how timely!...I'm hanging on your every word... I was just preparing a sermon about Melchizedek..for this week's sermon...I was aware of the pervasive "he was Shem", 2nd and 3rd century Rabbinical speculations...but alas, I, was largely ignorant of the older "cosmic Messiah" apocalyptic Essene and Gnostic source. Which seem in some ways, a bit more similar to the Hebrew Epistle...i.e...."Without Father & Mother..." [Heb 7:3]....every schoolchild (and Rabbi) should know that Noah is Shem's father, and his mother, although unnamed, is likewise well known...so, I don't think the Hebrew writer thought he was Shem...
About a month ago I searched for this video because I was convinced you had already made one - and to my surprise it didnt exist yet. Turns out it was just a prophetic vision.
Not going to lie, when I say this video, and that it was uploaded yesterday, my first thought was "wait didn't he already make a video about this topic?"
@@glenn_r_frank_author I think there was a much bigger story about that character, like Enoch's. They just wiped it out for the reason that it's more detrimental to the main character of the Jewish literature and the whole story.
@@Bean-tp7bw that vile book is about as reliable as me writing down that my friend revealed to be god twenty years ago, I literally have no evidence but trust me.
His origins are in sumer where his name is translated as Enmendurana, then in persia as Etana, then in Judea as Hanok, in Arabia as Idris, in Greece as Emaha, and today in english as Enoch He is second spirit of God out of the seven found in Revelation, also known as the main seven sons of man. Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Michael
@@theophrastusbombastus1359 youtube sends my links to spam. Just research those individual names yourself, avoid google itself but it can give the sources
Enoch while being mysterious in the canonical texts has a whole book centered around him. Malkizedek doesn't, so it makes him a wee bit more mysterious
@@TheArmchairPriest the name Hanoch arguably means "the initiated" in Hebrew which fits with his narrative purpose in the apocryphal literature - he came to learn of the Cosmological nature of the world, and to learn timekeeping hence he was "initiated in divine knowledge"
As a "non-theist" I can't tell you how much I enjoy your channel! Dr. Sledge speaks very highly of you..I see WHY now.. Thank You for such a clear eyed view of these stories.. Informative and entertaining!
Nice job as always, Andrew. Having been raised a Catholic, Melchizedek always comes up in the order of the Mass with respect to the consecration of bread and wine.
I didn’t realize that. I’ve only heard about Melchizedek priesthood in a Mormon context. I believe that they also use the laying of hands to pass it on, or bestow it. Sorry not sure about the verbiage.
@@HaroldHivart Nah, this is a bad description of the channel. It gives the impression that 90% of his videos are about Islam. I love his channel because he represents different religions in a way that is not biased towards secular academic interpretation (mostly). If he makes a video about Zoroastrism, for example, he will talk about what Zoroastrians believe, not what people in academic circles think about the religion. I love his video "What is Hesychasm?" the most.
On the nature of Melchizedek: in Hebrews 7;3 he is cleary a supernatural and divine entity, since Melchizedek is refered to as being "without beginning of days and end of life, without father and mother" and also "remains forever". Dr Michael S. Heiser also explained (see on youtube: "Was Melchizedek Jesus?") that his name actually does not translate as "king of righteousness", but more likely: "my king IS righteousness". This is ofcourse a reference to God, being the kings of kings, the one who is pure righteousness. Furthermore, one manuscript among the Dead Sea Scrolls, 11Q13, mentions Melchizedek as being the head of the divine council. Douglas Van Dorn gives some arguments to equate Melchizedek with Jesus (see his book The Angel of the Lord - Appendix V).
I believe he is God, God takes on different names depending on the role he plays. In Genesis it says he is the forever priest of the most high, forever indicating he is immortal, and the order of a Melkizadec indicating he is the one who initiates the adepts into immortality. The Order of Melkizadec is one of the most concealed secrets and Genisis is purposely writen in a confusing way because the people of earth are not supposed to know these things without reaching the level required to know. If we know without preparation, we will be held more accountable for what we do wrong, since we know what most dont know and continue to act in disharmony with it, when we are prepared to handle such knowledge then we will know not before otherwise this kind of knowledge can be more dangerous than helpful. The order of Melkizadec still exists and that is our final initiation into immortality, to know what it is we must be living correctly otherwise we cannot say we acted wrongly out of ignorance, this is why it is reserved for those who are prepared to understand and work for the will of God alone.
This channel is so underrated. Thanks for all this dep- dive videos. I love it. Especially because i can't find anything similiar in my language Greetings from germany
@@user-ex9dx7gt4oThe Christian God knows that His message has failed for 2000 years; the vast majority of humans alive today and have ever lived are not believers. God knows this but does not take this to heart! 😂
I've always been partial to the _ midrash_ that Melchizedek is Shem son of Noah. According to a literal reading of the timeline given, he would have still been alive during Abraham's life, and could have maintained the monotheistic religion!
"Revere" is a strong word here. You're right that Latter-day Saints don't know anything about him. The highest priesthood authority is named after him and that's about it. But whenever they talk about where that Priesthood comes from, they generally talk about how they believe it's the same priesthood that was given to Jesus's original apostles. Whether it is literally the same priesthood held by Melchizedek is not really the focus.
@@DiscoDumpTruck According to LDS tradition, Melchizedek gave the priesthood to Abraham. The word "revere" in this case would mean hold in a high place of honor or reverance. LDS tradition says relatively little about Enoch or Ephraim, and yet they hold special significance in the LDS tradition beyond their limited mentions. Nations will revere Joseph Smith, WW Phelps wrote. One LDS hymn evens refers to revering the pioneers, so I would be comfortable in using the word to describe special notice and respect to Melchizedek.
@@jacktingey7886 Revere in that sense is fair. Thanks for clarifying. I will say that Latter-day Saints do say quite a bit more about Enoch with his several chapters in the Pearl of Great Price, but you make a good point about Ephraim.
@@DiscoDumpTruck I wouldn't say that Latter-day Saints don't know anything about him. Take Doctrine and Covenants 107 for example that establishes the organization of the priesthood. The name of that priesthood was given the label of Melchizedek to avoid repeating the full name. It also explains that the highest priesthood authority was passed down from Adam through the antediluvian lineage. In Section 84 it explains from Noah it was passed down to Abraham through Melchizedek and then down to Moses where the appendage of the Levitical priesthood was created. There is a lot of evidence about his importance within the LDS teachings that existed before Nag-Hamadi and Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered. And that the priesthood has been passed down from the beginning with Adam. Restored through Jesus (who was the original source). And restored again to Joseph Smith.
No, the book was compiled slowly over time and edited, revised, and redacted incoherently by different groups of men with divergent goals and beliefs. We already know this. Time travel not required. This is not an Einstein level problem. It's an Occam level problem.
@@irtnycit is a unforgivable sin to edit or add to the Bible ,secondly the King James aligns identical to the Jewish writings ,and that being said bibles found in Ethiopia thousands of yrs old are also identical to the words in king James as it is today.. so there goes your theory and lies
I remember using Melchizedek in Persona 3, a ps2 JRPG I played when I was younger. His design was striking and his name stuck out to me as unique and cool, even standing out from the numerous other mythology and religion inspired demons/characters and their names. Thanks for the video!
Fun fact, Melchizedek's design in the Megami Tensei games is based off of Redeemer from Spawn. The artist for those games, Kazuma Kaneko, was pretty into Spawn and based another design (Zaou Gongen) more loosely off of Spawn himself.
Whenever there's a video on an esoteric factoid of any religion, you can be sure that SMT fans are lurking about. Also, P3 got a modern remake if you have the time for sinking 100+ hours into it again.
I was raised in the LDS/Mormon church, and they taught us that Abraham "paid his tithing" to Melchizedek, not that it was a one-time payment. Mormons (who use lay clergy) also have a higher priesthood called the Melchizedek and a lower priesthood called the Aaronic; this video gave me some insight on why they picked those names.
It's so weird how these ancient scribes make the most unclear edits. I guess narrative flow and style hadn't been solidified yet but damn, they don't just append or prepend to a story. There's no foreshadowing, it's BAM right in the middle and of a conversation.
Most of the time they had specific aims that are hard to comprehend for modern readers, due to translation, cultural differences and the weight of 3000 years of interpretation. If you know what they're trying to do there's a lot of elegance in biblical narrative (see "The Art of Biblical Narrative" by Robert Alter or his translations)
@@nkanyezihlatshwayo3601 Think about how terrible everyone is when they start writing the first time. And then realize that bronze age scribes didn't exactly get to practice much...Some of the most culturally important written stories from ancient times may have been one of the first things that author has written!
and on top of that, one story teller is less inclined to care about small details like history and context and more about the themes they want to communicate
When I first heard of Melchizedek in Carrier's 'On The Historicity of Jesus' I wanted to know more about him. The character must have slipped my mind until now. Great video, as always!
@@skyninjaslayer337 Just being honest. It takes to know many cultures and things to understand it. A lot of history is just taking from one culture and modifying it to fit a certain narrative. If the Abrahamic faiths were to reveal it, it would put many things into question, especially with the Christian church. That's why they kept it obscure.
I guess the interpretation of Salem as Jerusalem relies heavily on the latter part being identical (Jeru-Salem), and if my minimal Sumerian skills serve me right, URU is the Sumerian cuneiform determinative for city, which would be written in front of a city's name (as in, URU-Salem). I don't know how that linguistics detail could overlap or if it is even plausible for that to be the case, but it could be why Salem has been interpreted as Jerusalem, because it literally would read as "The City of Salem" in Sumerian 😁
I see that the name Urušalimum in Egyptian texts from the 19th c. BCE may have referred to Jerusalem, which would have been contemporary I think with the Sumerians. Regardless, it would have had to be a colloquial name by the Sumerians, readopted by the people in the city, which doesn't seem likely, but the fact that it lines up with "The City of Salem" is kinda interesting and possibly what made Jewish scholars equate the two? A similar mixing of languages is Istanbul (from Eis thn polis, 'into the city'). Also, of course, Salem was a Caananite deity, which follows the tradition in the area to name cities after deities thought to protect the cities (think Athens, Tarhuntasha, etc.). Of course, it could also be entirely Hebrew or Semitic at least and have just been interpreted as "The City of Salem" by Sumerians 🤭
Wikipedia says in the Canaanite period (14th century BCE), Jerusalem was named as Urusalim on ancient Egyptian tablets, probably meaning "City of Shalem" after a Canaanite deity. Bible claims Shalem means "Place of Peace" but that is what the Canaanite god Shalim is named after.
King of Righteousness. A notable prophet and leader who lived about 2000 B.C. He is called the king of Salem (Jerusalem), king of peace, and “priest of the most High God.” Unfortunately, information concerning him in the Bible is relatively scarce, limited to Gen. 14:18-20; Heb. 5:6; 7:1-3. Mention of the priesthood of Melchizedek is given in several other instances, primarily in Psalms and in Hebrews. However, latter-day revelation gives us much more about him and his priesthood (Alma 13:14-19; D&C 84:14; 107:1-4). From these sources we realize something of the greatness of this prophet and the grandeur of his ministry.
Watched a video from James Tabor on Melchizedek about a year ago and that name has probably stuck with me more than any other for whatever reason. I find myself randomly blurting out the name even. I look forward to this video!
If the Melchizedek verses were a later Hellenistic insertion, why have Melchizedek clearly praise the Canaanite deity El Elyon in that later addition to the text and not Yahweh?
Yeah I'm going to go with it sounds like Abraham stopped by a Mesoptomian city and meet with the priest-king. Like we know in Genesis Abraham came from Ur which is in Southern Iraq and journeyed through Mesopotamia into Canaan and I think Egypt (or was that Joseph). Anyway Mesopotamian cities were ruled by priest-kings because their religion held that gods owned the cities and only priests could have the power to collect taxes. So I'm thinking he stopped by a city in Iraq, met the king, and the Hebrews used the title El Elyon to refer to his god because that's probably what Melchizedek would have called his city's patron god even if it was like Enlil or Ashur or Ninurta.
@@MiguelDLewis Twisting reality to fit their expectations is how they have created such a diverse, fought over and agenda driven religious theology. However these divisions have weakened their control of the narrative. And created a declining number of believers, i mean suckers, to pull from.
Because that's not what he said. He said the "YHWH" part is missing from the Septuagint, the Greek translation from the Hellenistic Era, so it must have been inserted later for the Masoretic Text, which was made centuries later and has the "YHWH"
Yeah they have lots of biblical references. One of the original members of SLEEP left to become an Orthodox Christian monk. He founded the DEATH TO THE WORLD zine. Interesting guys for sure. Cool music, too.
@@thegreyetch yeah definitely wild stuff. I did check out the magazine thing that was made - death to the world. Very interesting blend of ethos with punk/metal and orthodox/apocalyptic monasticism. Similar vibe as OM. I had no clue one of them was involved tho!
Using "was priest" to assume past tense is a complete lack of understanding of the English language. The passage is written in 3rd person partisan, meaning the author is writing from the point of view of someone explaining an event in the author's/narrator's past. It does not mean that he was not such in his own time. Also "was priest" implies only priest. "Was (a) priest" would mean one among many. I really would hope that scholarship was better than using a translation and a lack of grammatical understanding, to base an argument.
Loved the video! Just a heads up- At 5:43 you note a source as Nedarim 32b:7. That’s not the typical way to cite in academic articles or traditional circles. It’s probably a leftover from Sefaria, a digital repository of Jewish texts that uses the :7 and similar notation for smaller breakdowns of the text based on their English translation. Very easy to make mistake, happens to me too!
Wait a minute, isn’t Jesus Melchezedek? I mean he said before Abraham was, I am. Isn’t Jesus called the same titles as Melchezedek? Prince of Peace, our High Priest…..
@@MiguelDLewis No, I don't suffer from the same mental disorder that you people do. I don't need to rely on bronze age fairy tales to make sense of the world.
Shalem rather than shalim. Because of the way city names shift it's a bit hard to tell if that name means "whole," "peace," or something else. Jerusalem (Yerushala'im in Hebrew, Urushalem in some older inscriptions) has a somewhat unclear meaning - there are a bunch of hypotheses but no consensus or clear evidence.
14:46 ... Holy Cow has that place changed!! My wife and I were there 10 years ago (?) and there were none of those apartments built around the archaeological site!!
I know that you could apply this logic literally anywhere, but seriously guys. Why would an omnipotent, omnipresent, god that created everything and keeps it as an open secret, even CARE about who gets blessed first in some random greeting? That's so inconsequential even some people wouldn't care about that. Let alone a being that's allegedly above all human matters.
It would be great if we had some other manuscripts that mention this name in another context. It seems like he had an existing mythos that some writer felt the need to incorporate into the Abraham narrative to elevate Abraham by association.
Edgar Cayce said Melchizadek was a previous incarnation of Jesus Whatever you may think of Cauce and his work, when you go back and read the passages in the Bible in that new light, they make a little more sense
I think religious texts should be taught in schools, along with critical thinking and lit-crit approaches to them. That would hopefully be a good innoculation against fundamentalist takes on it all.
While that sounds great it would be impossible in practice. For starters which religion's texts? How in depth? For public schools it would be very problematic being that you can't prioritize one religion over others.
You presented different interpretations of Melchizedek story: gnostic, rabbinic and dead-see-scrolls-ic. But you didn't present the orthodox Christian understanding of this story... Why? Also, would have been better if the video was longer: you could mention weird descriptions of Melchizedek in Hebrews - how he has no father or mother, no beginning or end - and more.
The Dead Sea scrolls say Melkizedek was an Elohim, local governor on behalf of Elyon, he who acquired lordship over the heavens and earth, aka the chief god of the pantheon. Later, when Yahwism took over, Melkizedek being an Elohim became unacceptable and so he was turned into a priest-king (but it means the same thing, a governor), Yahweh's name was inserted and syncretized with Elyon, and Elyon himself became "creator" of heaven and Earth, not the lord of heaven and earth.
@@nicechock No, literally. You don't get to wave away everything that doesn't make sense in the bible with muh sYmBoLiSm. Admit when your holy book is stupid.
I woke from a dream once that told me I was of the Order of Melchizedek. I had to do some research to find out what it meant. Near as I can figure it is that because the Spirit of God is within us we are, each of us, potentially, a Priest of God. But, because we are Human and have a right to choose (free will), we sometimes do not choose wisely. Sounds sort of Gnostic like to me.
The Gnostic tradition came hundreds of years after Christ and thousands of years after Melchizedek, I wouldn’t connect the two if I were you. Jesus was the fulfilment of Melchizedek, and the bread and wine are given in resemblance of him and his sacrifice upon the cross. God is clearly drawing himself to you.
I'd agree, but there is a perspective where you can say that analysis of Enoch is a very shallow well to draw from, whereas Melchezidic, while having more written about him in the text, draws out more questions and mystery.
Shem laid his hand upon Melchizedek's head, and blessed him, and delivered to him the priesthood, and commanded him to dwell there until the end of his life. And he said to him, 'Thou shalt not drink wine nor any intoxicating liquor, neither shall a razor pass over thy head; thou shalt not offer up to God an offering of beasts, but only fine flour and olive oil and wine; thou shalt not build a house for thyself; and may the God of thy fathers be with thee.' And Shem returned to his brethren, and Melchizedek's parents said to him, 'Where is our son?' Shem said, 'He died while he was with me on the way, and I buried him;' and they mourned for him a month of days; but Melchizedek dwelt in that place until he died. When he was old, the kings of the earth heard his fame, and eleven of them gathered together and came to see him; and they entreated him to go with them, but he would not be persuaded. And when he did not conform to their wishes, they built a city for him there, and he called it Jerusalem; and the kings said to one another, 'This is the king of all the earth, and the father of nations.' When Abraham came p. 36 back from the battle of the kings and the nations, he passed by the mount of Jerusalem; and Melchizedek came forth to meet him, and Abraham made obeisance to Melchizedek, and gave him tithes of all that he had with him. And Melchizedek embraced him and blessed him, and gave him bread and wine from that which he was wont to offer up as an
Malchezidek seems clearly a foreshadow of Christ. He was the King of Jerusalem. A priest king with no parentage who brings bread and wine and receives tithe.
The other unique attribute of Melchizedek is that he was a priest prior to the Mosaic Law, and the author of Hebrews relates him to Jesus in that matter; Jesus fulfills the Law and thus is a priest of a new covenant where the Mosaic Law is no longer necessary for justification/purity.
Many people in the Jewish Religous Literature were called “Christ” for example David. Whenever the Jews needed an individual to rescue them they called that individual a Messiah.
@RabidLeech1 Drawn's comment is a declarative statement. We can assume belief or not. (I personally don't) On its presented face, this episode of Religion for Breakfast shows just how often discrepancies, reiteration, multiple translation changes...I could go on...shaped a piece of cultural literature that is purported to be, ahem, written in stone.
@@Neenerella333While I agree with you generally, in this specific case we can safely assume Drawn's beliefs in mormonism based on their curated YT playlists. They are very clearly an amateur apologist for the faith. So their comment about Joseph Smith and Melchizedek is a subtle evangelical plug given with a scholarly veneer.
Really only a couple verses in Doctrine and Covenants 107 are about Melchizedek. Instead look in JST Genesis 14:25-40 for this expensive revelation, which is what Joseph Smith added to the end of Genesis 14.
While studying hebrews in our sunday school class we talked about this and my aunt mentioned our denomination believed in the prototype theory but i didn’t understand and when i asked she just repeated it in other words still confusingly. Thank you for the clarification
I think the mystery figures in the Torah, like Enoch and Melchizedek, are elements of broader traditions which have been omitted in the compilation of the Biblical texts. These broader traditions are glimpsed in Psalm 110 and Hebrews, but we see them in greater detail in texts like 11Q13, which is a truly fascinating text, or the much later Christian Nag Hammadi Melchizedek text. One text you failed to mention is 2 Enoch which contains a fascinating and disturbing account of the miraculous, non-sexual conception of Melchizedek, by the wife of Noah's brother, Nir. Realising she's pregnant she hides herself from Nir until he eventually seeks her out and discovers her pregnancy. When he challengesher she denies any wrongdoing saying that it happened miraculously and then drops dead from shame. Immediately Melchizedek emerges from or through her body not as a baby but as a child who can speak and has great knowledge. He even predicts the flood. He is then taken up into heaven where he stays until the time when he must come to earth to do what 11Q13 describes. The story is fascinating because it appears in an Enochic text in which Enoch is taken up to heaven to becomean angelic being but also because of the miraculous "virginal" nature of Melchizedek's conception. I think it is these traditions and their subsequent Christian adoption and application to Jesus (did these traditions even play a part in the origins of Christianity?), that were responsible for later Rabbinic negative interpretations of the Genesis Melchizedek passage
@@ChristisKing77777so discredit your whole bible read Numbers 31:17-18 in hebrew and read rabbinic interpretation of it then come back 😭 also while you’re at it look up “fallacy of presentism” goodluck mate
@@ChristisKing77777False. Mohammed did NOT marry a child. Have you read the whole Quran? No. Mary was an underage 🔞 pregnant girl when she married a much older Joseph.
*AYLION/עליון (Most High)* is not a name per *KTU 1.2 [Ugaritic Tablet 1 (𐎁𐎌𐎍𐎄𐎟𐎊𐎐𐎍𐎂𐎁𐎌𐎕𐎄𐎆𐎍 {"Ba'al of the height «עליון»"})]:* It's an epithet for whichever *אל/AL (deity)* that it is applied to. The name is never given in the Torah-all we have is the title. This is verified by Sumerian Tablets, as other deities have been given the title of *Most High,* not just one deity.
@@MiguelDLewis That's an excellent question that I'm currently trying to figure out. Thus far, I've only seen this name applied to *BAYL/בעל (the name of an evil deity)* and *;אל/AL* however, *אל/AL* is not the name of a deity, it's just a generic title that simply means deity. I'm trying to figure out who this *אל/AL* even is, because it is connected to the deity of the tetragrammaton *,(יהוה)* but *AYLION/עליון* is above even that name per Deuteronomy 32:8-9 and Psalms 82:6. The name has been censored, but I can't reveal what I think it is until I've completed my research. Great question, though.
That definitely makes sense in a system with multiple gods. One would have to be in charge or there would be chaos. And it obviously makes sense for monotheistic beliefs to use it to defend their assertion that their deity trumps all others, i.e. is the "One True God".
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This is where books in the Old testament were broken up and rearranged by countless authors over the centuries
I like the interpretation that Melchizedek was a priest of Shang Di (Deity Shaddai).
🍳🥐☕📖✨...how timely!...I'm hanging on your every word...
I was just preparing a sermon about Melchizedek..for this week's sermon...I was aware of the pervasive "he was Shem", 2nd and 3rd century Rabbinical speculations...but alas, I, was largely ignorant of the older "cosmic Messiah" apocalyptic Essene and Gnostic source. Which seem in some ways, a bit more similar to the Hebrew Epistle...i.e...."Without Father & Mother..." [Heb 7:3]....every schoolchild (and Rabbi) should know that Noah is Shem's father, and his mother, although unnamed, is likewise well known...so, I don't think the Hebrew writer thought he was Shem...
The Tom Bombadil of the Bible
a great analogy
Or is Tom Bombadil the Melchizedek of LOTR?
@@ErikNilsen1337- true, but Tom Bombadil of the Bible has an alliteration to it :]
@@wes4736 Fair enough.
Tom Bombible
About a month ago I searched for this video because I was convinced you had already made one - and to my surprise it didnt exist yet. Turns out it was just a prophetic vision.
@@AIagremm - I know this video exists! My evidence is that it was revealed to me in a dream.
Typical, am I right?
@@VictorVæsconcelosy’all need to leave him alone a lot of us ear actually do believe in the Bible and God does do a lot…
Not going to lie, when I say this video, and that it was uploaded yesterday, my first thought was "wait didn't he already make a video about this topic?"
@@wes4736...a dweam within a dweam?
I think Melchizedek was the producer, and just wanted a cameo in the screenplay so they wrote him in.
Honestly this is likeliest answer.
@DisposableSupervillainHenchman the first ever author self insert
@@glenn_r_frank_author I think there was a much bigger story about that character, like Enoch's. They just wiped it out for the reason that it's more detrimental to the main character of the Jewish literature and the whole story.
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Surprisingly profound statement
> Brings out bread and wine
> Blesses Abraham
> Gives out 10% of his possessions
> Refuses to elaborate
> Leaves
based
Badabing badaboom, amen
Was a King, and Priest of Salem (Peace). To be a King, 1 must be of the line of Judah. Priest, line of Levi.
@@timorean320 Those laws didn't start until Moses (and Jethro).
> Makes a small appearance in later chapters
I hear Melchizedek is a merry fellow. His robes are blue and his boots are yellow
Moreover, why does the model of Jerusalem look like Edoras? 🤔
Blue and yellow. 2 colors in the temple?
>Barges into the OT
>Blesses Abraham
>Refuses to elaborate further
>Leaves and is never heard of again (OR NOT?)
Truly a Biblical GIGACHAD
Was probably not a worshipper of the abrahamic god.
Gets venerated in both Judaism and Christianity like a chad
@@BasileosHerodou the Bible says other wise my guy
@@Bean-tp7bw that vile book is about as reliable as me writing down that my friend revealed to be god twenty years ago, I literally have no evidence but trust me.
@@BasileosHerodou no
@@BasileosHerodou thats stupid what source do you have to prove that?
I think, Henoch/Enoch is absolutely as mysterious as Melchizedek. Both are very strange figures.
His origins are in sumer where his name is translated as Enmendurana, then in persia as Etana, then in Judea as Hanok, in Arabia as Idris, in Greece as Emaha, and today in english as Enoch
He is second spirit of God out of the seven found in Revelation, also known as the main seven sons of man.
Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Michael
@@TheArmchairPriestI would love some links to that if you have them handy?
@@theophrastusbombastus1359 youtube sends my links to spam. Just research those individual names yourself, avoid google itself but it can give the sources
Enoch while being mysterious in the canonical texts has a whole book centered around him. Malkizedek doesn't, so it makes him a wee bit more mysterious
@@TheArmchairPriest the name Hanoch arguably means "the initiated" in Hebrew which fits with his narrative purpose in the apocryphal literature - he came to learn of the Cosmological nature of the world, and to learn timekeeping hence he was "initiated in divine knowledge"
As a "non-theist" I can't tell you how much I enjoy your channel! Dr. Sledge speaks very highly of you..I see WHY now.. Thank You for such a clear eyed view of these stories.. Informative and entertaining!
Nice job as always, Andrew. Having been raised a Catholic, Melchizedek always comes up in the order of the Mass with respect to the consecration of bread and wine.
Also, Catholic priesthood is the Melchizedek priesthood and it is passed from one priest to another by the laying on of hands.
I didn’t realize that. I’ve only heard about Melchizedek priesthood in a Mormon context. I believe that they also use the laying of hands to pass it on, or bestow it. Sorry not sure about the verbiage.
Yep, and Scott Hahn believes Melchizadek may have been Shem himself… which would make a lot of sense.
“Born circumcised” interesting
Just like God.
@@VictorVæsconcelos God was never born, nor gives birth.
@@celestialknight2339doesnt exist either.
@celestialknight2339 were you there?
@@GameTimeWhy God as a biblical character is as real as Abraham and everyone else. You can consider it as a myth without being rude about it.
Let's Talk Religion and Religion for Breakfast upload within minutes of each other? Best lunch break
What is "Let's talk religion" ?
@@karenspivey3203 It's a religion channel that speaks mainly about islam..
@@HaroldHivart found it...thank you.
@@karenspivey3203 you're welcome.. 🙂
@@HaroldHivart Nah, this is a bad description of the channel. It gives the impression that 90% of his videos are about Islam.
I love his channel because he represents different religions in a way that is not biased towards secular academic interpretation (mostly). If he makes a video about Zoroastrism, for example, he will talk about what Zoroastrians believe, not what people in academic circles think about the religion.
I love his video "What is Hesychasm?" the most.
On the nature of Melchizedek: in Hebrews 7;3 he is cleary a supernatural and divine entity, since Melchizedek is refered to as being "without beginning of days and end of life, without father and mother" and also "remains forever". Dr Michael S. Heiser also explained (see on youtube: "Was Melchizedek Jesus?") that his name actually does not translate as "king of righteousness", but more likely: "my king IS righteousness". This is ofcourse a reference to God, being the kings of kings, the one who is pure righteousness. Furthermore, one manuscript among the Dead Sea Scrolls, 11Q13, mentions Melchizedek as being the head of the divine council. Douglas Van Dorn gives some arguments to equate Melchizedek with Jesus (see his book The Angel of the Lord - Appendix V).
Melchizedekism
That context speaks of Enoch as him. But later on I think they called Shem that. Its a sort of title too.
I believe he is God, God takes on different names depending on the role he plays. In Genesis it says he is the forever priest of the most high, forever indicating he is immortal, and the order of a Melkizadec indicating he is the one who initiates the adepts into immortality. The Order of Melkizadec is one of the most concealed secrets and Genisis is purposely writen in a confusing way because the people of earth are not supposed to know these things without reaching the level required to know. If we know without preparation, we will be held more accountable for what we do wrong, since we know what most dont know and continue to act in disharmony with it, when we are prepared to handle such knowledge then we will know not before otherwise this kind of knowledge can be more dangerous than helpful. The order of Melkizadec still exists and that is our final initiation into immortality, to know what it is we must be living correctly otherwise we cannot say we acted wrongly out of ignorance, this is why it is reserved for those who are prepared to understand and work for the will of God alone.
@@nicechockit was Jesus man, you thinking to hard lol. Christ told you so already that Abraham was proud to see him.
@@warmbeergamingdude What Bible verse?
This channel is so underrated. Thanks for all this dep- dive videos. I love it. Especially because i can't find anything similiar in my language
Greetings from germany
Great topic! I'm an agnostic atheist but I read the whole Bible and I love all the lore, especially the obscure and extra-biblical stuff
Thoughts on eastern orthodoxy?
Read with your heart and a prayer. You are accountable for what you know but don’t take to heart
@@user-ex9dx7gt4oNo need to be rude, it's okay to read something interesting, even if you don't personally believe it to be true!
@@user-ex9dx7gt4oThe Christian God knows that His message has failed for 2000 years; the vast majority of humans alive today and have ever lived are not believers. God knows this but does not take this to heart! 😂
I've always been partial to the _ midrash_ that Melchizedek is Shem son of Noah.
According to a literal reading of the timeline given, he would have still been alive during Abraham's life, and could have maintained the monotheistic religion!
Melchizedek is a sort of Title. They called Enoch that and Shem later.
Most Mormon denominations revere Melchizedek, despite knowing little about him. The LDS Church's highest priesthood authority is of Melchizedek.
"Revere" is a strong word here. You're right that Latter-day Saints don't know anything about him. The highest priesthood authority is named after him and that's about it. But whenever they talk about where that Priesthood comes from, they generally talk about how they believe it's the same priesthood that was given to Jesus's original apostles. Whether it is literally the same priesthood held by Melchizedek is not really the focus.
@@DiscoDumpTruck According to LDS tradition, Melchizedek gave the priesthood to Abraham. The word "revere" in this case would mean hold in a high place of honor or reverance. LDS tradition says relatively little about Enoch or Ephraim, and yet they hold special significance in the LDS tradition beyond their limited mentions. Nations will revere Joseph Smith, WW Phelps wrote. One LDS hymn evens refers to revering the pioneers, so I would be comfortable in using the word to describe special notice and respect to Melchizedek.
@@jacktingey7886 Revere in that sense is fair. Thanks for clarifying. I will say that Latter-day Saints do say quite a bit more about Enoch with his several chapters in the Pearl of Great Price, but you make a good point about Ephraim.
@@DiscoDumpTruck Good point, Enoch has a whole backstory and panoramic vision in the POGP.
@@DiscoDumpTruck I wouldn't say that Latter-day Saints don't know anything about him. Take Doctrine and Covenants 107 for example that establishes the organization of the priesthood. The name of that priesthood was given the label of Melchizedek to avoid repeating the full name. It also explains that the highest priesthood authority was passed down from Adam through the antediluvian lineage. In Section 84 it explains from Noah it was passed down to Abraham through Melchizedek and then down to Moses where the appendage of the Levitical priesthood was created.
There is a lot of evidence about his importance within the LDS teachings that existed before Nag-Hamadi and Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered. And that the priesthood has been passed down from the beginning with Adam. Restored through Jesus (who was the original source). And restored again to Joseph Smith.
Having just re-read Genesis for the first time in decades, this video was very timely!
Melchizedek was a time traveler.
Aliens
Maybe pointing to reincarnation.
No, the book was compiled slowly over time and edited, revised, and redacted incoherently by different groups of men with divergent goals and beliefs. We already know this. Time travel not required. This is not an Einstein level problem. It's an Occam level problem.
dr york
@@irtnycit is a unforgivable sin to edit or add to the Bible ,secondly the King James aligns identical to the Jewish writings ,and that being said bibles found in Ethiopia thousands of yrs old are also identical to the words in king James as it is today.. so there goes your theory and lies
Have you done a video on the origins of circumcision yet?
Yes, I am also interested in this topic. Another topic I am interested in is about the religious commands dictating baking unleavened bread.
Please!!
I think it was originally an Egyptian practice, given the obsidian stone they used.
It was adopted from Eastern Sudanic speakers by Cushitics and Egyptians and from Egypt to Canaan.
@@AmachiEligwe oh! I need to read more on this! Thank you so much!
I remember using Melchizedek in Persona 3, a ps2 JRPG I played when I was younger. His design was striking and his name stuck out to me as unique and cool, even standing out from the numerous other mythology and religion inspired demons/characters and their names.
Thanks for the video!
Fun fact, Melchizedek's design in the Megami Tensei games is based off of Redeemer from Spawn. The artist for those games, Kazuma Kaneko, was pretty into Spawn and based another design (Zaou Gongen) more loosely off of Spawn himself.
He is also present in Shin Megami Tensei V
Whenever there's a video on an esoteric factoid of any religion, you can be sure that SMT fans are lurking about.
Also, P3 got a modern remake if you have the time for sinking 100+ hours into it again.
Your Channel is a treasure of knowledge, thank you
I've always wondered about Melchizedek.It is amazing that you were able to get so much information out of so little information.I like your work.
to be honest i never really interested in western religion stuff, but ur storytelling skill is just amazing.
Western?
@@improvyt6814 Which may still be "western" from an East Asian point of view.
Egyptian*
The truth is the real Melchizedech is not Western...
All of these videos are so fascinating.
I'd like to see you do a series on Hinduism. I think it's a widely misunderstood religion
When I first read The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho I was so stoked when Mechizedek appeared. Having such a niche Biblical figure was so cool
Comparing you in this video to the version of you in videos 8 years ago is wild. You used to be so high energy and now you seem like a sage
"Born circumcised" going on the resume
Epic
Heading of Resume.
*Be bold*
Your channel is my new favourite channel. Thank you for your videos!
Melchizedek is split into two parts in the Hebrew bible: Melchi and Zedek. malchi means "my king" and zedek (zedeq) means "rightousness".
i'm so hooked on this channel
I was raised in the LDS/Mormon church, and they taught us that Abraham "paid his tithing" to Melchizedek, not that it was a one-time payment. Mormons (who use lay clergy) also have a higher priesthood called the Melchizedek and a lower priesthood called the Aaronic; this video gave me some insight on why they picked those names.
Still a Mormon or no?
@@DisposableSupervillainHenchman I stopped believing when I was 14.
Love this channel!
It's so weird how these ancient scribes make the most unclear edits. I guess narrative flow and style hadn't been solidified yet but damn, they don't just append or prepend to a story. There's no foreshadowing, it's BAM right in the middle and of a conversation.
Most of the time they had specific aims that are hard to comprehend for modern readers, due to translation, cultural differences and the weight of 3000 years of interpretation. If you know what they're trying to do there's a lot of elegance in biblical narrative (see "The Art of Biblical Narrative" by Robert Alter or his translations)
@@GRB-tj6uj thank you so much for the book rec, will be checking this out
I suspect a Big Picture/Small Canvas problem - books only really got “better” when the costs of time and materials went significantly down
@@nkanyezihlatshwayo3601 Think about how terrible everyone is when they start writing the first time. And then realize that bronze age scribes didn't exactly get to practice much...Some of the most culturally important written stories from ancient times may have been one of the first things that author has written!
and on top of that, one story teller is less inclined to care about small details like history and context and more about the themes they want to communicate
Thank you for explaining this key topic so concisely. I am watching again.
I'm just going to believe that the Salem it refers to is in Massachusetts.
Nope but there's a link.
Capitol of Oregon.
A village of 800 in NW South Carolina
Has nothing to do with a region though... It's all related to ancient practices.
When I first heard of Melchizedek in Carrier's 'On The Historicity of Jesus' I wanted to know more about him. The character must have slipped my mind until now. Great video, as always!
I believe Melchizedek was an Angel of The Lord or God himself. Shanah Tovah
Same deal. The Angel of The Lord is Christ before he was incarnate as Jeshua (Jesus). And I agree.
Ive been waiting for someone to make a video about him! Such a mysterious character in the Bible
1:00 is that why Superman is from the House of El?
Superman was the creation of two young Jewish boys. What do you think...
@@SMVoid I am aware of that, yes, hence the train of thought. Isn't the same as a confirmation.
Thanks for another fantastic video!
I love learning about Melchizedek!
The truth about Melchizedek you're not going to find on TH-cam.
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@@skyninjaslayer337 Just being honest. It takes to know many cultures and things to understand it. A lot of history is just taking from one culture and modifying it to fit a certain narrative. If the Abrahamic faiths were to reveal it, it would put many things into question, especially with the Christian church. That's why they kept it obscure.
Complicated topic…well handled and explained. Thank you.
Thank you! I always appreciate your Shin Megami Tensei lore videos!
Wait does he actually make Shin Megami Tensei?
A man of culture indeed
@@Ratciclefan no, it's just a joke :)
WOW! This video took me on quite the journey!
I guess the interpretation of Salem as Jerusalem relies heavily on the latter part being identical (Jeru-Salem), and if my minimal Sumerian skills serve me right, URU is the Sumerian cuneiform determinative for city, which would be written in front of a city's name (as in, URU-Salem). I don't know how that linguistics detail could overlap or if it is even plausible for that to be the case, but it could be why Salem has been interpreted as Jerusalem, because it literally would read as "The City of Salem" in Sumerian 😁
I see that the name Urušalimum in Egyptian texts from the 19th c. BCE may have referred to Jerusalem, which would have been contemporary I think with the Sumerians. Regardless, it would have had to be a colloquial name by the Sumerians, readopted by the people in the city, which doesn't seem likely, but the fact that it lines up with "The City of Salem" is kinda interesting and possibly what made Jewish scholars equate the two? A similar mixing of languages is Istanbul (from Eis thn polis, 'into the city'). Also, of course, Salem was a Caananite deity, which follows the tradition in the area to name cities after deities thought to protect the cities (think Athens, Tarhuntasha, etc.). Of course, it could also be entirely Hebrew or Semitic at least and have just been interpreted as "The City of Salem" by Sumerians 🤭
It also relies on Psalms 76:2-3.
Wikipedia says in the Canaanite period (14th century BCE), Jerusalem was named as Urusalim on ancient Egyptian tablets, probably meaning "City of Shalem" after a Canaanite deity. Bible claims Shalem means "Place of Peace" but that is what the Canaanite god Shalim is named after.
@@crobinso2010 but where does "city" come from if not uru (in Sumerian)?
17:12 As an Oklahoman, was not expecting to see my state name dropped like this. I wish we could be in the news for something not horrible.
What about Psalm 110 in the understanding of older Melchizedek traditions?
Dude !!! Thank you for this video !!!
The Is That In The Bible blog just did an article on this! Is it a collab, or just a coincidence?
King of Righteousness.
A notable prophet and leader who lived about 2000 B.C. He is called the king of Salem (Jerusalem), king of peace, and “priest of the most High God.”
Unfortunately, information concerning him in the Bible is relatively scarce, limited to Gen. 14:18-20; Heb. 5:6; 7:1-3.
Mention of the priesthood of Melchizedek is given in several other instances, primarily in Psalms and in Hebrews. However, latter-day revelation gives us much more about him and his priesthood (Alma 13:14-19; D&C 84:14; 107:1-4). From these sources we realize something of the greatness of this prophet and the grandeur of his ministry.
Ayy I knew a kid named Melchizedek in high school, I wonder how his parents chose such an mysterious name for him
And I bet everyone just called him "Mel".
@@PamelaContiGlass yup!
Thanks for the idea, gonna name my son Melchizedek and his brother Enoch
Watched a video from James Tabor on Melchizedek about a year ago and that name has probably stuck with me more than any other for whatever reason. I find myself randomly blurting out the name even. I look forward to this video!
If the Melchizedek verses were a later Hellenistic insertion, why have Melchizedek clearly praise the Canaanite deity El Elyon in that later addition to the text and not Yahweh?
He might not be fond of fire breathing dragons
Because he wasn't a later Hellenistic insertion. The man in this video doesn't know the Tanakh.
Yeah I'm going to go with it sounds like Abraham stopped by a Mesoptomian city and meet with the priest-king. Like we know in Genesis Abraham came from Ur which is in Southern Iraq and journeyed through Mesopotamia into Canaan and I think Egypt (or was that Joseph). Anyway Mesopotamian cities were ruled by priest-kings because their religion held that gods owned the cities and only priests could have the power to collect taxes. So I'm thinking he stopped by a city in Iraq, met the king, and the Hebrews used the title El Elyon to refer to his god because that's probably what Melchizedek would have called his city's patron god even if it was like Enlil or Ashur or Ninurta.
@@MiguelDLewis
Twisting reality to fit their expectations is how they have created such a diverse, fought over and agenda driven religious theology.
However these divisions have weakened their control of the narrative. And created a declining number of believers, i mean suckers, to pull from.
Because that's not what he said. He said the "YHWH" part is missing from the Septuagint, the Greek translation from the Hellenistic Era, so it must have been inserted later for the Masoretic Text, which was made centuries later and has the "YHWH"
Hey, I love your videos. I'm interested in learning more about Moses and the origins of the tales we've come to know him for today.
So this is the guy from that Sleep/OM lyric - Walk Melchizidek shrine descender
Yeah they have lots of biblical references. One of the original members of SLEEP left to become an Orthodox Christian monk. He founded the DEATH TO THE WORLD zine. Interesting guys for sure. Cool music, too.
@@thegreyetch yeah definitely wild stuff. I did check out the magazine thing that was made - death to the world. Very interesting blend of ethos with punk/metal and orthodox/apocalyptic monasticism. Similar vibe as OM. I had no clue one of them was involved tho!
@@thegreyetchI knew the first part, but I did NOT know the second, that's sick!
Excellent video!
Genesis 16 has a woman named Hagar. I think she would make an interesting episode.
She's an alien. Voltron is her crazy anime sequel.
@@jzilla989she’s a witch! 😂
Really cool video. I've always wanted to understand this mysterious character
Using "was priest" to assume past tense is a complete lack of understanding of the English language. The passage is written in 3rd person partisan, meaning the author is writing from the point of view of someone explaining an event in the author's/narrator's past. It does not mean that he was not such in his own time. Also "was priest" implies only priest. "Was (a) priest" would mean one among many.
I really would hope that scholarship was better than using a translation and a lack of grammatical understanding, to base an argument.
I've always found Melchizedek fascinating.
I named my rooster after him
Pretty cool name for a rooster
AP?
A Cool name for a cool pet
@@threetrismegistusnew AP? Flood. Water on my but like a tub.
Loved the video! Just a heads up- At 5:43 you note a source as Nedarim 32b:7. That’s not the typical way to cite in academic articles or traditional circles. It’s probably a leftover from Sefaria, a digital repository of Jewish texts that uses the :7 and similar notation for smaller breakdowns of the text based on their English translation. Very easy to make mistake, happens to me too!
Wait a minute, isn’t Jesus Melchezedek? I mean he said before Abraham was, I am. Isn’t Jesus called the same titles as Melchezedek? Prince of Peace, our High Priest…..
Yes, but one has to have actually read the Bible to figure that out!
No.
No is the correct answer
I had no idea Melchizedek's role in the Bible was so complex! The connection between him and Jesus makes so much sense now.
Seems like an angel or another kind of Jesus Being....7 Spirits.
It must've been wonderful to not feel so alone, together, but?
Lord Melchizedek hails from Canon and he did not live in Jerusalem permanently. He was the great king of a great School-Church.
Melchizedek hailed from Egypt. Jerusalem was in Egypt prior to being relocated to Canaan (Jeremiah 3:18).
Settle down. He's not even real, just like your imaginary god.
@@HarshDude126 How do you know you're real? Your entire sense of reality is based on Judeochristian epistemology.
@@MiguelDLewis No, I don't suffer from the same mental disorder that you people do. I don't need to rely on bronze age fairy tales to make sense of the world.
@@MiguelDLewis Your god is a rip off of Horus. You owe your entire worldview to ancient Egyptian mythology.
Great explanation of Melchizedek.
What does Urushalim translate to?
Would Salem translate to Shalim if Jerusalem is Urushalim?
Is Uru a prefix word? Is Shalim a root word?
Shalem rather than shalim. Because of the way city names shift it's a bit hard to tell if that name means "whole," "peace," or something else. Jerusalem (Yerushala'im in Hebrew, Urushalem in some older inscriptions) has a somewhat unclear meaning - there are a bunch of hypotheses but no consensus or clear evidence.
@@YonatanZunger thanks for that. What I found online is that Urushalim might translate to 'Foundation of God'
14:46 ... Holy Cow has that place changed!! My wife and I were there 10 years ago (?) and there were none of those apartments built around the archaeological site!!
Fascinating. Thank you so much for exploring this character. I don't have much to add but I hope this helps with the algorithm lol.
Jesus is called “ The Greater Melchizedek”.Imagine being so great that such a comparison could even be made?
I know that you could apply this logic literally anywhere, but seriously guys. Why would an omnipotent, omnipresent, god that created everything and keeps it as an open secret, even CARE about who gets blessed first in some random greeting? That's so inconsequential even some people wouldn't care about that. Let alone a being that's allegedly above all human matters.
It would be great if we had some other manuscripts that mention this name in another context. It seems like he had an existing mythos that some writer felt the need to incorporate into the Abraham narrative to elevate Abraham by association.
Edgar Cayce said Melchizadek was a previous incarnation of Jesus
Whatever you may think of Cauce and his work, when you go back and read the passages in the Bible in that new light, they make a little more sense
If Melchy is immortal, how would that work?
Great topic I've always wondered about this
3:10 Enochich cinematic universe 🤣❤️👍🏻
These anachronistic jokes are the reason why the gentiles remain confused.
I chuckled out loud....😂
Even tho I'm no longer a christian, learning about different interpretations of the Bible is so fascinating to me.
I think religious texts should be taught in schools, along with critical thinking and lit-crit approaches to them. That would hopefully be a good innoculation against fundamentalist takes on it all.
While that sounds great it would be impossible in practice. For starters which religion's texts? How in depth? For public schools it would be very problematic being that you can't prioritize one religion over others.
Would have been good to hear more about Melchizedek in the Psalm, and when that dates from. Maybe he will cover that another time.
Every time I see you I think of Ian from Smosh
I agree. However, poor doc Henry needs to trim that football helmet he's wearing on his head. Lol
@@SuperBluebirdieno it looks great
Thanks!
You presented different interpretations of Melchizedek story: gnostic, rabbinic and dead-see-scrolls-ic. But you didn't present the orthodox Christian understanding of this story... Why?
Also, would have been better if the video was longer: you could mention weird descriptions of Melchizedek in Hebrews - how he has no father or mother, no beginning or end - and more.
The Dead Sea scrolls say Melkizedek was an Elohim, local governor on behalf of Elyon, he who acquired lordship over the heavens and earth, aka the chief god of the pantheon.
Later, when Yahwism took over, Melkizedek being an Elohim became unacceptable and so he was turned into a priest-king (but it means the same thing, a governor), Yahweh's name was inserted and syncretized with Elyon, and Elyon himself became "creator" of heaven and Earth, not the lord of heaven and earth.
Born circumcised? what?
Circumcision of the heart maybe? (Deuteronomy 10:16)
what, a birth defect? doesn't that disqualify him from being a priest?
It still happens to some baby boys.
Symbolically. He was born righteous
@@nicechock No, literally. You don't get to wave away everything that doesn't make sense in the bible with muh sYmBoLiSm. Admit when your holy book is stupid.
I woke from a dream once that told me I was of the Order of Melchizedek. I had to do some research to find out what it meant. Near as I can figure it is that because the Spirit of God is within us we are, each of us, potentially, a Priest of God. But, because we are Human and have a right to choose (free will), we sometimes do not choose wisely. Sounds sort of Gnostic like to me.
The Gnostic tradition came hundreds of years after Christ and thousands of years after Melchizedek, I wouldn’t connect the two if I were you. Jesus was the fulfilment of Melchizedek, and the bread and wine are given in resemblance of him and his sacrifice upon the cross. God is clearly drawing himself to you.
You probably are if it came to you through a dream.
I thought that Enoch was the most mysterious figure in the bible
I'd agree, but there is a perspective where you can say that analysis of Enoch is a very shallow well to draw from, whereas Melchezidic, while having more written about him in the text, draws out more questions and mystery.
There are many. Balaam, and his talking donkey. Deborah who sat under the Deborah tree and settled disputes among the Israelites.
I sincerely believe Melchesidek is Shem he would have been old but still alive at this time.
13:32 this man is posted up beyond any possible physical necessity
Shem laid his hand upon Melchizedek's head, and blessed him, and delivered to him the priesthood, and commanded him to dwell there until the end of his life. And he said to him, 'Thou shalt not drink wine nor any intoxicating liquor, neither shall a razor pass over thy head; thou shalt not offer up to God an offering of beasts, but only fine flour and olive oil and wine; thou shalt not build a house for thyself; and may the God of thy fathers be with thee.' And Shem returned to his brethren, and Melchizedek's parents said to him, 'Where is our son?' Shem said, 'He died while he was with me on the way, and I buried him;' and they mourned for him a month of days; but Melchizedek dwelt in that place until he died. When he was old, the kings of the earth heard his fame, and eleven of them gathered together and came to see him; and they entreated him to go with them, but he would not be persuaded. And when he did not conform to their wishes, they built a city for him there, and he called it Jerusalem; and the kings said to one another, 'This is the king of all the earth, and the father of nations.' When Abraham came p. 36 back from the battle of the kings and the nations, he passed by the mount of Jerusalem; and Melchizedek came forth to meet him, and Abraham made obeisance to Melchizedek, and gave him tithes of all that he had with him. And Melchizedek embraced him and blessed him, and gave him bread and wine from that which he was wont to offer up as an
Malchezidek seems clearly a foreshadow of Christ. He was the King of Jerusalem. A priest king with no parentage who brings bread and wine and receives tithe.
...or, alternatively, the narrative of Jesus was shaped around Melchizedek.
Christ was literally born from a human woman so your lazy attempt at comparison is invalid.
@@bocoom with God as his father… name ankther like him .
The other unique attribute of Melchizedek is that he was a priest prior to the Mosaic Law, and the author of Hebrews relates him to Jesus in that matter; Jesus fulfills the Law and thus is a priest of a new covenant where the Mosaic Law is no longer necessary for justification/purity.
i do hope more people come to believe in God and Christ.
Many people in the Jewish Religous Literature were called “Christ” for example David. Whenever the Jews needed an individual to rescue them they called that individual a Messiah.
Joseph Smith Jr. claimed expansive revelation regarding Melchizedek in D&C 107
I’m definitely gonna believe a guy who lived 4,000 years after Melchizedek and thought that the Israelites were in North America.
@RabidLeech1 Drawn's comment is a declarative statement. We can assume belief or not. (I personally don't) On its presented face, this episode of Religion for Breakfast shows just how often discrepancies, reiteration, multiple translation changes...I could go on...shaped a piece of cultural literature that is purported to be, ahem, written in stone.
@@Neenerella333While I agree with you generally, in this specific case we can safely assume Drawn's beliefs in mormonism based on their curated YT playlists. They are very clearly an amateur apologist for the faith. So their comment about Joseph Smith and Melchizedek is a subtle evangelical plug given with a scholarly veneer.
D&C is made up by fake prophets
Really only a couple verses in Doctrine and Covenants 107 are about Melchizedek.
Instead look in JST Genesis 14:25-40 for this expensive revelation, which is what Joseph Smith added to the end of Genesis 14.
While studying hebrews in our sunday school class we talked about this and my aunt mentioned our denomination believed in the prototype theory but i didn’t understand and when i asked she just repeated it in other words still confusingly. Thank you for the clarification
I think the fact that Shem was an ancestor of Abraham is an important aspect of the discuss
I think the mystery figures in the Torah, like Enoch and Melchizedek, are elements of broader traditions which have been omitted in the compilation of the Biblical texts. These broader traditions are glimpsed in Psalm 110 and Hebrews, but we see them in greater detail in texts like 11Q13, which is a truly fascinating text, or the much later Christian Nag Hammadi Melchizedek text. One text you failed to mention is 2 Enoch which contains a fascinating and disturbing account of the miraculous, non-sexual conception of Melchizedek, by the wife of Noah's brother, Nir. Realising she's pregnant she hides herself from Nir until he eventually seeks her out and discovers her pregnancy. When he challengesher she denies any wrongdoing saying that it happened miraculously and then drops dead from shame. Immediately Melchizedek emerges from or through her body not as a baby but as a child who can speak and has great knowledge. He even predicts the flood. He is then taken up into heaven where he stays until the time when he must come to earth to do what 11Q13 describes. The story is fascinating because it appears in an Enochic text in which Enoch is taken up to heaven to becomean angelic being but also because of the miraculous "virginal" nature of Melchizedek's conception. I think it is these traditions and their subsequent Christian adoption and application to Jesus (did these traditions even play a part in the origins of Christianity?), that were responsible for later Rabbinic negative interpretations of the Genesis Melchizedek passage
Where is Melchizedek in the Quran?
About 1500 km northish.
Michael
Does it really matter? Any book that justifies marrying 9 year olds needs to be discredited.
@@ChristisKing77777so discredit your whole bible read Numbers 31:17-18 in hebrew and read rabbinic interpretation of it then come back 😭 also while you’re at it look up “fallacy of presentism” goodluck mate
@@ChristisKing77777False. Mohammed did NOT marry a child. Have you read the whole Quran? No. Mary was an underage 🔞 pregnant girl when she married a much older Joseph.
Side characters that were either removed or only appearing once are an interesting topic
*AYLION/עליון (Most High)* is not a name per *KTU 1.2 [Ugaritic Tablet 1 (𐎁𐎌𐎍𐎄𐎟𐎊𐎐𐎍𐎂𐎁𐎌𐎕𐎄𐎆𐎍 {"Ba'al of the height «עליון»"})]:* It's an epithet for whichever *אל/AL (deity)* that it is applied to. The name is never given in the Torah-all we have is the title. This is verified by Sumerian Tablets, as other deities have been given the title of *Most High,* not just one deity.
Which was the first deity to be given that epithet? Where's its earliest occurrence in the archeological record?
@@MiguelDLewis That's an excellent question that I'm currently trying to figure out.
Thus far, I've only seen this name applied to *BAYL/בעל (the name of an evil deity)* and *;אל/AL* however, *אל/AL* is not the name of a deity, it's just a generic title that simply means deity. I'm trying to figure out who this *אל/AL* even is, because it is connected to the deity of the tetragrammaton *,(יהוה)* but *AYLION/עליון* is above even that name per Deuteronomy 32:8-9 and Psalms 82:6. The name has been censored, but I can't reveal what I think it is until I've completed my research.
Great question, though.
@@MichaelPagan-c9n Censored by who and what do you think it is? I have my own theories as well...
That definitely makes sense in a system with multiple gods. One would have to be in charge or there would be chaos. And it obviously makes sense for monotheistic beliefs to use it to defend their assertion that their deity trumps all others, i.e. is the "One True God".
@@MichaelPagan-c9n What are the 4-5 conjugations of the name?