That’s always a great feeling to get that first start. These stand-alone aren’t for everybody. But not everybody wants to pay a big bag of cash for a plug and play solution either. 😀
it liiiiiiivesss Edit #1 @4:16 Crimps have shown to last longer in locations susceptible to vibration. You'll want to ensure that your solder joints are well insulated or (GlueLineHeatshrinked) to minimized vibrations to the joints and ensure a connection that lasts. If you do decide to do crimps later on you'll want to use copper crimps/terminals to prevent corrosion in the future. @5:25 Agreed. Edit#2 lol @8:37 ish. Yes for coils you would want at least (a minimum) 18AWG wire to be able to handle operating them without overheating the wiring and potentially causing damage to surrounding wires.. based on the coils you use, they may come with an AWG recommended size. an interesting sidenote though is that if you have all 18AWG wires crimping/soldering together to one wire for the feed, you would want that single wire to be larger than the individual 18awg wires as if you think of it it now needs to feed 4 or 6 or 8 coils based on your engine and thus that single wire will need to have enough of a Gauge in order to supply or feed the individual branches. Lol so much typing hahah Good Video bro, awesome to see it start.
Yup! I saw one of your latest videos where it's working. I'll be converting my Neon over to Speeduino in the coming months as well. Thank you very much for sharing this info, it's been extremely valuable. Cheers!
Can you do this with the stock ECU? I'd imagine just routing the wires from the stock coil pack plug to each coil but then again I haven't looked at any wiring diagrams or pinouts so I don't know how that plug works
@@CarModsGarage also you think it would be worth it on a stock 1991 3KGT VR4? I think I wanna keep it stock cause it's basically mint condition but of the engine ever blows up im gonna build it
That's a very good question. I did I switch to the new ones because #1 my old ones were not sparking (broken cables) #2 the speeduino works better with smart coils. It only sends the signal. That way I can use sequential firing. #4 finally for the looks. I unfortunately did not make it work with the oem but I believe if you only pair up the signals with the firing order since there are only two signal wires it should work fine
@@CarModsGarage thank you. I tried using the factory coil yesterday. Unfortunately it did not work, come to find out these are considered to be 'dumb' coils and as a result, they would require an external igniter to work. Luckily, I did not fry my Speeduino. Word of advice to anyone who reads this, ensure NOT to connect a dumb coil directly to the Speeduino without an igniter, you could ruin your new ECU. Time to go with a COP setup for me as well. I'll be going with a wasted spark as I'm doing a PnP unit that I can swap out with the factory PCM thank you for all the help so far!
@@jorgerios1029 hmmm i guess the igniter is inside the ecu then. Eclipse ECU does a lot of stuff. You will need an external voltage regulator (I have a video on that) otherwise the battery will not get charged. Not sure how the ecu would fry without the igniter since ecu send signal out. I would think worst case it would fry the coil pack not the ecu but better safe then sorry. On my other build I fried 4 out of 6 smart coils testing them from the ecu . By the way every coil that hass less than 3 wires are dump. Smart coil usually has 4 wires ( pos, neg, sig, sig back) the ecu only care about sig so it's out signal to the coil. I would think that on the eclipse the two wires apart from the power would take the signal. I guess not 🥺.
@@CarModsGarage according to what I've read, it seems like some dumb coils will send the high current output back via the signal wires without an igniter. This is why they don't recommend wiring them up directly to the ECU. That's a really good tip to know, the number of wires on the coil, thank you!
Good look and see where it's coming from but it could be from the valve cover gasket. Clean everything, go for a drive and see where the oil is coming from
Hi CarModsGarage, quick question as I will be running this coils on my Speeduino application, do you wire the signal cable from the coils to the Speeduino controler directly? is there a need for inline resistor or something? Thanks, best regards Eduardo.
depends on the board you are using. Sometimes you will actually need to replace the built in resistor with a lower value. 0.4.4 has 10 ohm which is perfect (r8s need 10-15ohm), some others are 100-150 ohm which is too much.
@@RickeyFields-sd4jd 😂. I know I can. I just don't do it for anyone else apart from me and the videos. I am sure if you follow the videos you will end up with a similar build
I'm running an eBay turbo .67 ar. Ebay intercooler kit. I was running a smaller garrett turbo but it started making noise so I got this one that was laying around. Very happy with it
Cant wait to see a POV drive with this car👏🏽 congrats on the progress 🔥🔥
thanks man
the conversion to coils by cylinders looks good
Love all your videos and builds
Thanks brother 👍
That’s always a great feeling to get that first start. These stand-alone aren’t for everybody. But not everybody wants to pay a big bag of cash for a plug and play solution either. 😀
True. In the end you still tune them all
Looking good man. Nice work coming along .
it liiiiiiivesss
Edit #1 @4:16 Crimps have shown to last longer in locations susceptible to vibration. You'll want to ensure that your solder joints are well insulated or (GlueLineHeatshrinked) to minimized vibrations to the joints and ensure a connection that lasts. If you do decide to do crimps later on you'll want to use copper crimps/terminals to prevent corrosion in the future. @5:25 Agreed.
Edit#2 lol @8:37 ish. Yes for coils you would want at least (a minimum) 18AWG wire to be able to handle operating them without overheating the wiring and potentially causing damage to surrounding wires.. based on the coils you use, they may come with an AWG recommended size. an interesting sidenote though is that if you have all 18AWG wires crimping/soldering together to one wire for the feed, you would want that single wire to be larger than the individual 18awg wires as if you think of it it now needs to feed 4 or 6 or 8 coils based on your engine and thus that single wire will need to have enough of a Gauge in order to supply or feed the individual branches.
Lol so much typing hahah
Good Video bro, awesome to see it start.
oh yeah! :)
@@CarModsGarage I usually Comment at the start and edit throughout... prepare for edits lol
I never know which terminals to buy and also the crimper. Mine is fine but it doesn't make a perfect crimp.
lol. I appreciate it brother. I do the same sometimes.
Looks sick bro!!
thanks brother!
They should redo your valve cover for improperly prepping it before powder coating.
Very nice Dude!!!!
Thanks buddy!
Why couldn’t you use wasted spark.?
Nice job 👍
Very Nice! Did you ever hook up the RPM signal to your cluster?
Yes I did write the tach out from the SpeedyEFI to the one that was coming from the ECU
Yup! I saw one of your latest videos where it's working. I'll be converting my Neon over to Speeduino in the coming months as well. Thank you very much for sharing this info, it's been extremely valuable. Cheers!
@@jorgerios1029 thank you and good luck 👍
Can you do this with the stock ECU? I'd imagine just routing the wires from the stock coil pack plug to each coil but then again I haven't looked at any wiring diagrams or pinouts so I don't know how that plug works
Hmm guys research a bit but if the signal that the ECU send is enough to trigger the coils then yes. Good figure out the sequence
@@CarModsGarage well I have some coils, everything I need for wiring and another car so I'll do my research and see if I can't get it to work!
@@CarModsGarage also you think it would be worth it on a stock 1991 3KGT VR4? I think I wanna keep it stock cause it's basically mint condition but of the engine ever blows up im gonna build it
@@not_virtuality I don't see you gaining anything from it so I wouldn't mess with it if I were you
@@not_virtuality 🤙 let me know how it goes
Did you happen to switch to COP because the original coil is a dumb coil? Did you ever get the car to start with the factory coil?
That's a very good question. I did I switch to the new ones because #1 my old ones were not sparking (broken cables) #2 the speeduino works better with smart coils. It only sends the signal. That way I can use sequential firing. #4 finally for the looks.
I unfortunately did not make it work with the oem but I believe if you only pair up the signals with the firing order since there are only two signal wires it should work fine
@@CarModsGarage thank you. I tried using the factory coil yesterday. Unfortunately it did not work, come to find out these are considered to be 'dumb' coils and as a result, they would require an external igniter to work. Luckily, I did not fry my Speeduino. Word of advice to anyone who reads this, ensure NOT to connect a dumb coil directly to the Speeduino without an igniter, you could ruin your new ECU. Time to go with a COP setup for me as well. I'll be going with a wasted spark as I'm doing a PnP unit that I can swap out with the factory PCM thank you for all the help so far!
@@jorgerios1029 hmmm i guess the igniter is inside the ecu then. Eclipse ECU does a lot of stuff. You will need an external voltage regulator (I have a video on that) otherwise the battery will not get charged.
Not sure how the ecu would fry without the igniter since ecu send signal out. I would think worst case it would fry the coil pack not the ecu but better safe then sorry. On my other build I fried 4 out of 6 smart coils testing them from the ecu .
By the way every coil that hass less than 3 wires are dump. Smart coil usually has 4 wires ( pos, neg, sig, sig back) the ecu only care about sig so it's out signal to the coil. I would think that on the eclipse the two wires apart from the power would take the signal. I guess not 🥺.
@@CarModsGarage according to what I've read, it seems like some dumb coils will send the high current output back via the signal wires without an igniter. This is why they don't recommend wiring them up directly to the ECU.
That's a really good tip to know, the number of wires on the coil, thank you!
@@jorgerios1029 gotcha. Ya that makes sense!
I’ve got oil pouring out of mine coming from behind the timing cover dripping bad in front of the oil filter what do u think
Good look and see where it's coming from but it could be from the valve cover gasket. Clean everything, go for a drive and see where the oil is coming from
@@CarModsGarage did it behind the cover
@@CarModsGarage got to pull engine
@@RickeyFields-sd4jd oh that sucks
Hi CarModsGarage, quick question as I will be running this coils on my Speeduino application, do you wire the signal cable from the coils to the Speeduino controler directly? is there a need for inline resistor or something?
Thanks, best regards
Eduardo.
I didn't add anything. I only wire the individual coils as I show on my video straight into the ECU.
And yes sorry just now I understood the question correctly 😣 signal wire straight to Speeduino. Nothing in between
depends on the board you are using. Sometimes you will actually need to replace the built in resistor with a lower value. 0.4.4 has 10 ohm which is perfect (r8s need 10-15ohm), some others are 100-150 ohm which is too much.
Will the coils not work with wasted spark.?
What's a water spark?
@@CarModsGarage 😂my bad,meant wasted spark
@@061garage I think you could make the OEM work but this is better and it looks much better
Are there any good performance intake manifolds for the 420a ?
I've seem only one a long time ago but couldn't find anymore.
stock intake is actually really good, just port match it
How much u charge to build my 420
Send me ur number
I don't do that Rickey. 🤙
@@CarModsGarage u could I’ve already seen u do it lol but I understand
@@RickeyFields-sd4jd 😂. I know I can. I just don't do it for anyone else apart from me and the videos. I am sure if you follow the videos you will end up with a similar build
what turbo system do you run
I'm running an eBay turbo .67 ar. Ebay intercooler kit. I was running a smaller garrett turbo but it started making noise so I got this one that was laying around. Very happy with it
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