A Medieval tent that is actually GOOD for Fantasy Adventurers

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  • @nerfspartanEBF25
    @nerfspartanEBF25 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +44

    "Living Anachronism independently rediscovers half-shelters, a long-standing piece of military kit, and that it was issued for centuries for a reason. More at 11."

    • @LivingAnachronism
      @LivingAnachronism  11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +16

      Yes I am aware of things such as the polish Lavvu cloak I mention it in the video 😉

    • @headstanding_Penguin
      @headstanding_Penguin 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Still used in the swiss army.

    • @sebastienschubert2991
      @sebastienschubert2991 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      British basha

  • @gregmchugh7462
    @gregmchugh7462 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +45

    Ww2 pup tents, german and American (I don't know about other armies). Ww2 US tents, each guy gets a shelter half, a pole, some stakes and rope. The tents button together to form the ridge line. German tents, 4 guys each get a triangle tent piece. One pole in the middle, 2 guys sleep, 2 on watch. The getma. Tents can be buttoned together into very large shelters because they are triangle pieces

    • @richard_n
      @richard_n 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This is how you do it.

    • @MrSheckstr
      @MrSheckstr 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Combinations of the us Army shelter half tents and the Polish Lavvu …. The lavvu creates a tipi style shelter out of two segments with a single triangle door… BUT you can make a larger shelter with additional sections ….
      A two section lavvu and a two panel shelter half tent gives you a canvas igloo , and you can convert the lavvu into a hot tent . Lavvu can have four sections with two doors. Shelter halves can be made double long using four sections. Lavvus can also use six panels and have the three openings be at 120 degree from each other… suddenly you have a canvas structure with a main central room with a protected entrance , side tunnels for sleeping, or leading to smaller secondary chambers

    • @GrantIshCrosby
      @GrantIshCrosby 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I was just typing something similar when I glanced down and saw this, LOL. It's what I used when I did SCA events.

    • @Dang_Near_Fed_Up
      @Dang_Near_Fed_Up 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      The biggest issue with the American shelter halves is that they are not long enough, I really got tired of waking up with my feet out the bottom of the "tent". I really think they were designed for people about 5'6" to 5'8" or so, being even slightly over 6' you simply can not get inside the tent and straighten out. Let alone at 6'5". And if you bend your knees your going to hit the other guy in the tent with them.

    • @r.legionis7253
      @r.legionis7253 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I was issued a shelter half in the Marines in the 90s. I don't think I used it in the Fleet, but those things made it to the late 90s before they got phased out.

  • @ModernKnight
    @ModernKnight 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    Sounds like you had an actual adventure, brilliant!

  • @dougmartin2007
    @dougmartin2007 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +33

    Civil war reenactors use some pretty nice tent halves as a system to create a lot of variations of set ups.
    They used buttons, but since everyone was made to the same specs, the bittons always lines up no matter who in the unit you were paired with.
    In a fantasy setting i think that would require the party to buy the tent pieces from the same guy at the same time.

    • @athena1491
      @athena1491 15 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      nah, they can add buttons on the road while camping, lots of time to burn, so they would only need the same size fabric

  • @schreckpmc
    @schreckpmc 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    In weather where the ground may be saturated, you almost certainly must get off the ground. Consider a cot or flat packed bed (skill tree) which is why I suggest a hand cart.

  • @Allofthemonkeys
    @Allofthemonkeys 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +28

    Rename this video 'Kramer rediscovers the shelter half'

    • @Clan.Bourbon
      @Clan.Bourbon 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      LOL,exactly! 😂

  • @salimufari
    @salimufari 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    There are dozens of solid bushcraft shelter building tarp discussions. Many full coverage tarp layouts for a 10'x10' square tarps with sewn tabs in the appropriate places.

  • @jeffjag2691
    @jeffjag2691 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Adventuring party should be base 3. Each has a shelter half (one to be used as a ground cloth) that doubles as a poncho. Shelter halfs measure 8x6 rectangle with equilateral flaps on both sides. Two people sleep while the third has watch and they switch watch half way through.

  • @schreckpmc
    @schreckpmc 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    The guy from modern history tv says most medieval travelers did not camp, they stayed at inns…I seem to recall. Consider a hand cart rather than backpack to haul sufficient gear for survivable comfort.

    • @LivingAnachronism
      @LivingAnachronism  11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

      Yes this is true, but I'm coming at it from the more fantasy perspective rather than directly historically accurate

  • @fantasysurvivalguide
    @fantasysurvivalguide 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    I used the first example for the past years Reckoning, it survived and protected me from the torrents of rain and wind, staying dry through the tornado.
    The fix for the door issue I accidentally found when making it, was to have the canvas be rectangular, 12x9 in my case which when put into a square made plenty of fabric to temporarily stake to the ground for a door. A raised cot fixed the no ground cloth, which tbh wasn't going to fix anything besides just getting mud soaked and destroyed.
    Glad to see a regular schedule, keep it up! God bless your adventures!

  • @MajorSebbaa
    @MajorSebbaa 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice tarp setup! I will have to try that out on my next LARP. I usually go for the first setup you showed (is there a name for that setup? Doghouse sounds about right), or I set up a plow-sheer next to a tree.
    Tarps in general are a good flexible way to set up camp. If everyone carries one, you can make the tent bigger an bigger to fit you party.
    In general though, historic camping gear is just heavy. I think for some serious adventuring you have to bring a mule, or some other beast of burden. Saw an american with pack-goats on TH-cam once, and while looking funny, it also looked very practical for adventuring.

  • @edwardgurney1694
    @edwardgurney1694 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Off topic but that sheepskin(?) coat is dope 🔥

  • @littlekong7685
    @littlekong7685 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    I would make a boat of the ground tarp, get stakes and use the guy loops to hold the ground tarp lip up 3-6 inches but only on the edge as a wind/water break ( u shaped). You can then use the top as a normal A cover right to the ground, but the raised lip underneath it will help as a barrier. You could even make a simple pot hook and hang the lip of the ground cover up to your guy wire as a door, if the ground tarp is long enough.

  • @nahkohese555
    @nahkohese555 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's called a Plough Point, a Shelter Half, or most commonly a Diamond Fly and there are a number of TH-cam presentations on different ways to set them up, in singles and in pairs. They are easy to make, but there are also a number primitive style tentmakers who sell them ready-made (waterproofed with gromets and ties points). My favorite is Spring Valley Lodges. My son bought one from them many years ago for LARPing and it still is as solid and waterproof as new (though well used). However, he made his first one using the information he found in a 1920s Boy Scout Manual. Boy Scouts 100 years ago were a lot tougher than today.

  • @byronrazor
    @byronrazor 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Experience will always be a great teacher through life. Especially when camping.

    • @Dang_Near_Fed_Up
      @Dang_Near_Fed_Up 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      You definitely find out what does and does not work in a hurry, when you camp out.

  • @knightjack
    @knightjack 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    First shot I see; Beautiful color grading and focus blur

  • @Clan.Bourbon
    @Clan.Bourbon 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I did find it amusing you came up with the shelter half solution on your own without prior exposure through the military. Good on ya!

  • @schreckpmc
    @schreckpmc 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Worst camping weather is near freezing yet not freezing. Any solution must address this situation, if not, misery is a constant threat.

  • @TheTsarsTailor1910
    @TheTsarsTailor1910 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh man this is perfect timing my friend just got three 10x10 waxed canvas tarps, we both kept one and turned the third into some waxed canvas raincoats and pants. Perfect for the winter and rain.

  • @robertcourtemanche9185
    @robertcourtemanche9185 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    A wagon. Once a party is established as a group and has at least one retainer - preferably two, then a wagon is the way to go. You can store tents, rations, lanterns, oil, etc. in a wagon.

    • @brianhowe201
      @brianhowe201 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Or at least a pack animal or two. Wagons can't go off-road very well.

  • @RogerS1978
    @RogerS1978 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Idealy you want a tent like that with a camp fire and reflector (rock, logs/ wattle) at the open end. Far enough away that theres no fire risk. Also do anything to get yourself off the floor that sucks heat from the body.

  • @henryeccleston7381
    @henryeccleston7381 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you do the folded taco set up, try overlapping them and using buttons (the stone tied up inside style) to make secure tie points to suspend the ridge down from your line. This way you only need to carry some small bits of cordage and a handful of pebbles or marbles in addition to your main line to set up.

  • @seanmcguire1952
    @seanmcguire1952 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    With a 10x10 you can make an A frame and instead of staking the corner tie outs, go one in from the corners and you can close the ends for doors.

  • @orenmontgomery8250
    @orenmontgomery8250 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    It isn't just a "secure feeling" or even avoiding drafts that makes me want my head opposite the door. It's also more convenient to crawl into the tent and kick your boots off if you don't need to turn your whole body 180° (and possibly track in snow/mud from your footwear OR get your socks wet trying to do it). You just crawl halfway in, kick the boots off just inside the door, and then wiggle into your bedroll. This is especially true when you don't have much headroom to even kneel (I spent years maining a tiny $20 off-brand [Stansport] pup tent that packed tiny and was lightweight... there were tradeoffs).

  • @flyboymike111357
    @flyboymike111357 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you want a historic and easy to carry ground cloth, try usin a shepherd's plaid and/or a fly plaid.

  • @roadrunner681
    @roadrunner681 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    A suggestion for you is to hunt at least 6 inches of compressed material to keep you off the ground, its good padding and your not losing heat to the ground. As for fantasy i love the idea of the hand carts the Mormons used to get to utah, you can easily carry 300 pounds of gear and supplies between the group

    • @MisterKisk
      @MisterKisk 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Hemlock (AKA Tsuga) boughs work wonders for making a debris bed. Obviously location dependent, but they're all across North America and Asia. Other options are cedar and fir.

    • @roadrunner681
      @roadrunner681 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@MisterKisk yes sir, we have used everything from corn stalks whitch is in high supply here to reeds, I learned the hard way about staying off the ground won't do that again

  • @tsamoka6496
    @tsamoka6496 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    How about in a fantasy adventure, you have a magical item that is a wearable cloak that transforms into a tent? Take it off, put it down and poof, instant tent. After you're done using it, just pull it down and sling it over your shoulders and poof again, instant cloak. I call it "The Cloak of the Traveler". Yes, a lot of people would probably think it's pretty useless as an item, but I think people who want a little more roleplay without having to figure out all the details might like it. =^x^=

  • @NicholasNappi
    @NicholasNappi 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I do historical reenactment and i honestly don’t advise to have a tent with no bottom or door. It can be dangerous depending on the environment. I mean even if you are on a budget there are plenty of medieval looking tents that are kinda modern but still pass enough for medieval reenactment. It depends on the reenactment group you are in. Not all groups are very strict and as long as it passes for looking medieval it’s okay.

  • @TALOSREAPER
    @TALOSREAPER 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’ve been making my own roaming kit to do walk-in camping(my nearest camp site is 24 miles away by trails) and my goal next summer is to walk-in and walk-out in the fall. I have… an over designed canvas tarp tent plan im saving up to put together and your end point is very similar to what i have!

  • @darrinrebagliati5365
    @darrinrebagliati5365 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    3:00 I've seen the same configuration with a tripod, both internal and external, giving way more room. I usually use a floored style if I'm going to 'close' it in.

    • @MajorSebbaa
      @MajorSebbaa 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You can also do it with a bipod, so just two sticks bound with a bit of rope. That leaves the middle of the tent free.

  • @kingofsapi
    @kingofsapi 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    At higher levels, a wizard or sorcerer should invest in Mordenkainen's Magnificent Mansion. ^_^
    And if you have a cleric who can cast Heroes' Feast, your party can go anywhere in the realms while always having shelter and food!

  • @MJFacas
    @MJFacas ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    When talking about openings I would take the vent at the bottom versus the top anytime. Some have mentioned the shelter half style of tent and those all have some sort of closure to the ridge to keep out rain or snow in most instances.

  • @OutlandStation
    @OutlandStation 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    German "zeltbahn" shelters were 4-man tents, each section being something of a triangle shape that doubled as a poncho. Obviously, the US shelter-half that I used in the Marines, as well as the numerous other countries that copied the basic pattern. There's ways to rig shelters from military-issue ponchos, as well. I've also seen a number of bushcrafter shelter designs that were modular enough to allow for adding in "tent-mates" to expand your shelter. Looks like y'all had fun!

  • @tvheadd
    @tvheadd 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Consider: hammock.

  • @darrinrebagliati5365
    @darrinrebagliati5365 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    With a 10x10 a 3ft wide bottom gives you 2 3.5ft sides 10 ft long or 3ft sides w a foot of overlap. A tubular triangle. The end can be closed off, the side can be opened. Basically your taco shape but a little narrowed.

  • @AlexeiWarriorOfRus
    @AlexeiWarriorOfRus 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The best pattern for an adventurer tent is the soviet tent cloak pattern. In essense, it is is a rectangular piece of cloth that can be worn as a cloak by a person, hung as a tarp or groundclotH or buttoned together with however many others the squad has into a tent. The lone one is big enough to make a ground shelter for one man in a fetal position.

  • @VosperCDN
    @VosperCDN 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I've got one of the (somewhat) more modern German tents - two parts, multi-section poles, all for two persons including door/flaps on the end. Each shelter half can be used as a rain cloak of sorts, including door/flaps on the end. I can see it working for a medieval version for sure.

  • @markvaughan7530
    @markvaughan7530 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    A very simple way to use a tarp for shelter is to lay it out on the ground, using between 1/3 and 1/2 for your sleeping arrangement and gear, and then simply fold the rest over the top, and have enough to tuck under on the other side. Granted, you get no head space, but it is very simple, and usable when there are no convenient trees or rocks to string lines to.

  • @nealjameson8490
    @nealjameson8490 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Combine to build something bigger and better...sounds like a metaphor for life!
    As for the ridge, can you get one to fold slightly over the other? The one-man variation of this is to have the ridge line run down the center of your tarp. If you had a second tarp, you could use it as a groundcloth. Of course, then you have a seam at the lower edge, but that seems (no pun intended) preferable to me.

  • @Clan.Bourbon
    @Clan.Bourbon 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's called a shelter half. You have half the shelter (tent) and one collapsing tent pole. Your battle body has the other half and his collapsing tent pole. You did make me smile, though.

  • @newplantosuceed
    @newplantosuceed 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Plenty of #36 bank line, bungee cords for quick set up.
    Definitely 2 guy lines and prussik loops. Bug netting if necessary. Ground cloth, A large plastic garbage bag stuffed with leaves to create insulation from the ground as a no frills sleep pad. A sharp knife to make tent stakes. A fire with wet plant materials to make it smokey for mosquitoes.

  • @georgegillis7271
    @georgegillis7271 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    First great way to improvise adapt and overcome take what you've learned and do better now wild bear has a tarp set up for 1 woth a floor and door

  • @hanelyp1
    @hanelyp1 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    2 square tarps, with a few extra tie points, could be combined into a rectangle then pitched in a tipi style. 2 8x8 ft tarps would fit 3 adventurers without being too tight, leaving a 3rd tarp for the floor. Or splurge for 10 ft. squares for a roomy 3 man tent.

  • @Jonalith
    @Jonalith ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If you had enough people each with their own tarp, you could easily have constructed a makeshift pavilion tent. You would just need a few long sticks and like 5 tarps, and a surprisingly small amount of rope

  • @schreckpmc
    @schreckpmc 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Cold.

  • @fenrishound5939
    @fenrishound5939 11 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Who is cooking the tomatoes, sausages, and nice crispy bacon?
    Not bad for a BARD I guess Kramer
    You are blessed to have the friends you do. It must of been a thrill to brave the wild with that company.

  • @zetsumeimaru
    @zetsumeimaru 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    With the first setup. Making a tripod to stand over it works well.

  • @AdventureswithMud
    @AdventureswithMud 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I do tarpology videos on my channel using a 10x10ft tarp. Many options for great shelters with a tarp.

  • @RonaldClark-l8u
    @RonaldClark-l8u 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Your videos are always so helpful! Thank you for the new knowledge! 💖😘

  • @tenchraven
    @tenchraven 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Someone mentioned shelter halves- they make a lot of sense, it's not like there as was no standardization of designs. The Romans built flat pack forts that they carted into location and put up. If you can do the equivalent of an Ikea fort, you can make those. rather than buttons, probably reinforced eyes and toggles might be even easier.
    And always carry more rope. On the list of things I"m always glad I packed but carried home, only thing I'm happier to not need than all my cordage is my first aid kit.

  • @schreckpmc
    @schreckpmc 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    (I think the main characters in The Road used a hand cart…or one of those post apocalyptic movies.)

  • @marcusfridh8489
    @marcusfridh8489 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The german army zeltbahn triangles 2 or more is good too. And with a 10x10 square tarp i prefer the low tetra set up

  • @sw33n3yto00
    @sw33n3yto00 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Kramer, toss a ball or roll of tarred marline in your kit. Strong enough for shelters and lashing work, but takes up little space.

    • @newplantosuceed
      @newplantosuceed 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      #36 bank line.

  • @TheManWhoSoldTheWorld1234
    @TheManWhoSoldTheWorld1234 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Where did you get that jacket/coat from?

  • @darrinrebagliati5365
    @darrinrebagliati5365 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Far north bushcraft, a tent with a floor. Is a good vid on a tarp tent.

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Useful 👍

  • @Charlie-dx6bv
    @Charlie-dx6bv 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    I dont know if you should cover content thats so..... intents

  • @kullen2042
    @kullen2042 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Sometimes I'm simple: I see Living Anachronism, I watch xD

  • @ManicEngine
    @ManicEngine 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    wonder what having a third or fourth person and tarp would be like, spear-poles as tent-poles maybe. how big if it was the whole party?

  • @Ozarkwonderer
    @Ozarkwonderer 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You did about as good as you could with out more trial and error. It's good when there's more gear and hands, but you do need a way to go it alone too.
    Just find a good set up you like and roll with it

  • @celesi
    @celesi 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Where did you get the tarp? or is this something you made?

  • @j.c.5480
    @j.c.5480 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Medieval? Bushcraft aside, canvas tents and tarps are still widely used. Also, real life survival doesn't involve role-playing, always take a NOAA radio if you go winter camping.

  • @mansfieldtime
    @mansfieldtime 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    If I saw that space on the top I'd be like, this isn't happening, and have an inch or two overlap at the top. That said "How to Build a Teepee | The Pioneers/ National Geographic" Also "Native Americans Teepee Homes/ The Ancient Library"

    • @mansfieldtime
      @mansfieldtime 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This is also interesting, "YOU CAN set up a traditional TIPI with no help | Simple step by step guide through the process./ Makers Movement" Though it does mean, it would take at least 2 people to carry the tent supplies, it could hold several people comfortably plus a fire.
      Regardless I love your videos. A ranger would be self sufficient, but the fellowship would need to share supplies.

  • @janregenda5573
    @janregenda5573 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The random changing of POV is distracting. Please, stick to the front view.

  • @H8FULL1
    @H8FULL1 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Historical reenactor discovers a shelter half that was used in our civil war and every world war since.

  • @schreckpmc
    @schreckpmc 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Anyway…there’s no harm in checking out Bronze Age caveman ASSYRIAN ARMY! It only hurts for a minute.

  • @stuartmangold595
    @stuartmangold595 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    if you are going to use the first setup again instead of a ridge line use a tripod

  • @StarlasAiko
    @StarlasAiko ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If you want closer to historical, wrap yourself in your cloak and sit under a tree, or have a wagon on which you can transport very long poles and a bimetric square-ton of canvas or hides to create a proper marquee tent or teepee.

  • @ahirzy007
    @ahirzy007 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    fwi a 100 nlbsw of gear is average for the currant infantryman tho that can vary
    n

  • @RichardHernandez-i1k
    @RichardHernandez-i1k 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Very interesting and informative video! Thank you for your hard work! 🍭💝

  • @BrianSmith-ql5nj
    @BrianSmith-ql5nj 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    12 pounds for a tent would be a nice roomy modern tent.

  • @OutlandStation
    @OutlandStation 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    "50 feet of rope" goes really fast...

  • @broadcastbard
    @broadcastbard 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    First: don't mention Shad, please.
    Second: if you set of an A-frame and tuck the edges inside the tent, staked at the ends and maybe use rope and stakes to run along the corner that meets the ground to keep it's A shape crisp.
    Third: Hammock and tarp.

    • @TeacherinTraining39
      @TeacherinTraining39 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      You know he and Shad often collab, right?

    • @zsDUGGZ
      @zsDUGGZ 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It's okay to associate with people you disagree with.

    • @broadcastbard
      @broadcastbard 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@TeacherinTraining39 then I must ask if Kramer agrees with Shad's very public misogyny, racism.

    • @broadcastbard
      @broadcastbard 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TeacherinTraining39 I stopped following Shad when I saw the vitriol and bigotry on Knights Watch. I have to wonder if Kramer is aware of Shad's misogyny and racism and if so does continued engagement imply apathy (at best) to his bigotry?

    • @broadcastbard
      @broadcastbard 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@zsDUGGZ If I found out someone was a racist misogynist with questionable views on age of consent I would NOT continue to associate with them, but maybe I'm just built different I guess.

  • @juliepura4976
    @juliepura4976 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You need to take a course on how to survive , your coming off like an amateur who’s gonna die horribly !!