Interesting: the Gorgon fills the empty slots between the Beast (10 5 -2 2) and Monarch (10 5 -4 1) and has different numbers for Star (10 6 -2 1) and GStar (10 6 -3 1) plastics.
@@aron4117 Yeah Innova is more likely to use different flight numbers for GStar and DX for anything 10-speed and above. I guess I just wasn't expecting to see it here, but it's nice they are continuing this for future disc releases. 🙂
I just picked one of these up after my second time ever disc golfing. Mostly picked out my discs based on the cool artwork on them (and using the numbers just a little), but after seeing how this flies, hoping it performs well on my next outing
Innova has the Mystere which is the closest to hybrid I can think of. Prodigy came up with a Hybrid Driver, like the H3V2, was waiting for an Innova run at it.
Looks almost as good as the Medusa made in Gresham, OR! Skyquest made this and she immediately became one of my go to disks. Softer plastic so she can get the best distance whether from an overhand or finger-flip grip. And I can put her within 3-5 yards of where I am aiming up to about 250 feet.
Is it me, or is this one of the first times Innova has put different flight numbers for different plastics? Disc looks 👌🏼 btw. Can’t wait to try it out
They generally do it for select 10-speed discs and faster. Examples I'm aware of from the 2020 Innova Flight Chart: Invictus, Mystere, Tern, Vulcan, Katana, Shryke, Boss, Colossus, Corvette. There may be others, but that's what I'm aware of currently.
my flatter champion sidewinder beat into what i think this disc is which is a disc i put on decent bit of hyzer using about 30% power with maybe a 5mph - 10mph tailwind for 330ft-360ft tight lines.. agree?
i love using roadrunners for hyzer flips and ive been looking for something thats in-between that and my understable beast. this is absolutely perfect. im so eager to order a few. please update me once theyre in stock if possible
@@innovawombat ok nice I basically only use champion plastic , my bag is all Innova champion actually ! And I have a little bag of all Innova star , those are my two disc golf bags ……
Dear innova please please make more eagles like the 2022 gregg Barsby color glow run. I think the eagle deserves the sexton firebird treatment where there’s more flat color glow runs please please thanks so much
you would be able to throw a lot further if your run up line wasnt so sideways but a smidgen more backwards... that will give your disc pull through path a straight path vs V shape like you use now.. . this correction added 75ft easy to every shot nearly..
Yea numbers are fairly similar and my older champ ones beat in to almost this flight. Not much experience with newer runs. Most newer innova is more stable then originals.
Looks identical to a discraft heat/scorch to me. The real question is will it hyzer-flip out of the box for someone that throws 375' or fly like a thunderbird until it see's a headwind and gets wildly unpredictable like a roadrunner. Also we want the old star logo back this new stuff just looks childish. Make innova great again.
We fit 10 speeds into the “long range” bucket. This video is a quick first look at a new disc, not a touring pro review. But yeah, if you’re casually huckin putters 350, this disc might be a good roller for you.
Do you think pro's have a big need for a flippy 10 speed? Are pro's watching disc reviews on youtube? I think whomever is in the video is a better representation of who this disc may benefit and is watching these videos rather than a pro that will likely use it as a roller disc.
I hear ya. This is just a first look video to give you all early insights. We'll get some pro reviews for a legit Flight School video. I do think it's a disc that most intermediate and advanced players will dig because of it's sneaky distance for modest power throwers, like me. Hoping it's relatable in that way.
Really like that you guys are using different flight numbers for different plastics. Thank you, innova.
We have for years. I've always loved it
I'm a valkyrie, wraith, roadrunner guy. Love the control Innova Drivers have
Curious to get your take on Gorgon
Anytime Innova seems to cook something up in the lab, I usually end up bagging it. Can't wait to try it out!
I know. They aren't even my preferred brand, but they are more addictive than pokemon! GOTTA TRY A GORGON!
wanna know what you think about it
Just picked up a first run star Gorgon. The plastic feels amazing! Keep up the great work Innova!
Interesting: the Gorgon fills the empty slots between the Beast (10 5 -2 2) and Monarch (10 5 -4 1) and has different numbers for Star (10 6 -2 1) and GStar (10 6 -3 1) plastics.
Make sense G star tends to be a bit More under stable. A gstar firebird is a lowkey amazing disc to bag
@@aron4117 Yeah Innova is more likely to use different flight numbers for GStar and DX for anything 10-speed and above. I guess I just wasn't expecting to see it here, but it's nice they are continuing this for future disc releases. 🙂
Can’t wait. Innova been killing it the last few years and new molds. Alien, Rollo, Hawkeye, Toro, Charger etc.
I recognize that form! Great vid Mr. Panis. Awesome work by all the good folks at Innova. Can't wait to try one.
TC! 👊💛
The art for both of these are great. Slightly prefer the GStar stamp but both are sweet 👌
Chris, Levi and the art crew will be stoked to hear that
I'm getting one for sure! I'm liking the numbers on the Gstar plastic. Great video by the way :)
I just picked one of these up after my second time ever disc golfing. Mostly picked out my discs based on the cool artwork on them (and using the numbers just a little), but after seeing how this flies, hoping it performs well on my next outing
The flight looks similar to a beat in Orc. Definitely going pick one up.
I said Beast when Jeff was talking about the pre production model! This thing looks sweet
Beastly for sure
seems a lot like the aztec which i love and bag 3 in diff plastic, def cant wait to try these!
Aztec is slept on, my favorite disc - I bag 2 G blend and 1 I blend.
I have a slot in the bag it can fill. And those stamps are dope
Innova has the Mystere which is the closest to hybrid I can think of.
Prodigy came up with a Hybrid Driver, like the H3V2, was waiting for an Innova run at it.
You had me at fairway driver feel.
Gorgon is cool and all but I wanted to see the Gordon!
Looks Awesome! Interested to see how this compares to a Valkyrie.
I'd love to get my hands on the Gorgon!
I like the numbers; when will they be hitting the retail shops?
Available at your fave Innova retailer June 26
for 285ft i would use a beat up star Jay for tailwind or star Caiman for headwind
Dang big arm. Save some girls for the rest of us
Going to be picking on up for sure
👊
Great throws, Jeff!
Ty👊💛
Looks almost as good as the Medusa made in Gresham, OR! Skyquest made this and she immediately became one of my go to disks. Softer plastic so she can get the best distance whether from an overhand or finger-flip grip. And I can put her within 3-5 yards of where I am aiming up to about 250 feet.
I basically LIVE at Martha! Such a good course 🔥
Same!
that thing looks like it loves to glide, gonna try one
Looks great, can't wait to try one!
Tell me when you try it
Love that course
Gorgonzola?
this disc in Glow Halo would be epic
Agreeeeee
Interested to compare disc dimensions.
It's not the arrow, it's the archer.
So true. This is a pretty forgiving, straight arrow
Sick ace!
Thanks Kevin
Just got a Star Gorgon. Took it out for a round and found myself throwing 30-40ft further than my longest drives. Sneaky distance is right.
It’s good to see Innova create a disc NOT designed for all out power throwers .
Is it me, or is this one of the first times Innova has put different flight numbers for different plastics? Disc looks 👌🏼 btw. Can’t wait to try it out
They generally do it for select 10-speed discs and faster. Examples I'm aware of from the 2020 Innova Flight Chart: Invictus, Mystere, Tern, Vulcan, Katana, Shryke, Boss, Colossus, Corvette. There may be others, but that's what I'm aware of currently.
No it's not, the savant, I think the trex, and another mold, can't remember
Champ Tern and Shryke ....
they typically have different numbers for g star 1 less stable.
So just another version of the innova beast?
Will there be a slight variation version called the Gorgonzola?
Only for the Gonzaga collegiate disc golf team
Awesome!! What I am lookin for. ty
That’s cool. I gotta try one out.
I got a Gorgon and lost it. I loved it so much I had to buy another.
Thank you for the video
Just got a Star Gorgon at the Flight Factory!
You guys misspelled the video title disc name.
Thanks for the heads up!
Super stoked to try these but that cut as you were about to throw was the worst.
my flatter champion sidewinder beat into what i think this disc is which is a disc i put on decent bit of hyzer using about 30% power with maybe a 5mph - 10mph tailwind for 330ft-360ft tight lines.. agree?
Maybe!
Great stuff!
i love using roadrunners for hyzer flips and ive been looking for something thats in-between that and my understable beast. this is absolutely perfect. im so eager to order a few. please update me once theyre in stock if possible
They’ll be at your fave Innova dealer on June 26
They’ll be at your fave Innova dealer on June 26
wondering when these might come out in something other than max weights, talking 165-169g.
How’s this disc for hyzerflips in tight wooded lines? Is this a flippier Beast? Or what would you compare it to?
That star one flies like magic. I lost my beat Savant just last week, maybe this could replace it?
It could
how does the Pro Gorgon fly?
When is it coming out in champion plastic ?
TBD
@@innovawombat ok nice I basically only use champion plastic , my bag is all Innova champion actually ! And I have a little bag of all Innova star , those are my two disc golf bags ……
@@innovawombat just so you know I am starting a Star bag to match my Champion bag lol
Reminds me of a Lat64 Sapphire
Looks like it flies like the Beast did before it returned to the original old mold. Definitely interested! The old mold Beast is too overstable.
Looks like a faster IT.
As a Wombat3 lover, where can I get this hoody ?
It’s a one-off I made
@@innovawombat Feel free to make one more ;D (XL, please !)
Discmania TD?
Will lighter weights be made (low to mid 160s)?
Absolutely
If my boy Jeff can do it, anyone can lol. Jk, love ya fam!
💯👊
Did Gordon make the title to this video?
Is this most like a faster, flippier IT?
Faster 👍 I wouldn’t say it’s flippier than IT
Why do the different plastics have different numbers?
g star is less stable
GStar has a slightly higher dome and flatter lower wing (lower parting line) which seems to contribute to the additional turn.
Assuming the plan is to run in Champion plastic as well?
Eventually, yes
@@InnovaDiscGolf awesome! This disc looks money!
I'll add it to the bag
Very convincing video here
Let’s go squad
When does it drop? I need it.
Available at Innova dealers June 26
@@innovawombat thank you
@@facelessce welcome, let me know what you think about it
Is this basically a slightly faster Sidewinder?
That’s one way to describe it. But Gorgon has sneaky far glide
When does it drop?
Available at Innova retailers June 26
Fun fact: Gorgon backwards is Nogrog ☮
When does this release?
Available at Innova retailers June 26
Dear innova please please make more eagles like the 2022 gregg Barsby color glow run. I think the eagle deserves the sexton firebird treatment where there’s more flat color glow runs please please thanks so much
you would be able to throw a lot further if your run up line wasnt so sideways but a smidgen more backwards... that will give your disc pull through path a straight path vs V shape like you use now.. . this correction added 75ft easy to every shot nearly..
Tbh, not a form improvement guy. Been throwing the same for 20 years, is what it is. Fun is my focus
So how does it compare to a Beast?
Off the shelf, a bit more glide and straighter finish
Forehands?
We’ll get some video with forehands, yes it does whip forehands nicely
Nice
So you decided to remake the SL!
Entirely new mold parts, new design
SL 10 5 -1 1 is the best disc mold of all time, and flies the exact same for me as the flight in this video. A shame they stopped producing it.
@@Mdjagg the Pro Starfires use the SL mold afaik
Infinite Aztec. It's great still.
@Mdjagg I'm still debating on picking one of those up..
Just release it so y’all can take my money
Dang i use my famine for this type of shot. Going to have to snag one
Sold.
Roadrunner3?
Not bad way to describe it
@@innovawombat Well, Im sold.
Not gonna lie this seems very much like a beast clone. Possibly a less stable or seasoned one
You're onto something there. The Gorgon has the sneaky glide that extends the reach too
Yea numbers are fairly similar and my older champ ones beat in to almost this flight. Not much experience with newer runs. Most newer innova is more stable then originals.
Let them cook
Okay, but show us long distance 🤔
Send me that Star gorgon, and I'll test it for free. 😂
add to cart
It’s a legit disc.
The white one said -4 / 1 interesting
The white one is Star, 10, 6, -2, 1
@InnovaDiscGolf I see now the - makes the 2 look like a 4 in the video 😅
It looks like a very very wide rim. Why are you saying it's like a fairway driver?
Relatively, it's not as wide as the faster distance drivers, feels more like a fairway driver
Innova Scorch
looks close to a MVP Wave
@@johnmorgan233 Must look the same as a Scorch then.
Looks identical to a discraft heat/scorch to me. The real question is will it hyzer-flip out of the box for someone that throws 375' or fly like a thunderbird until it see's a headwind and gets wildly unpredictable like a roadrunner. Also we want the old star logo back this new stuff just looks childish. Make innova great again.
When is Innova going to stop selling defective “bubble rim” plastic? Why has this been acceptable to you as a company?
like.
"Long range" then shows putter / mid distance. Gotta include some longer throws
We fit 10 speeds into the “long range” bucket. This video is a quick first look at a new disc, not a touring pro review. But yeah, if you’re casually huckin putters 350, this disc might be a good roller for you.
Maybe get a somewhat pro to test throw the discs. Konas dad isn't the best representation
I disagree. More golfers can relate to him better than a pro.
Do you think pro's have a big need for a flippy 10 speed? Are pro's watching disc reviews on youtube? I think whomever is in the video is a better representation of who this disc may benefit and is watching these videos rather than a pro that will likely use it as a roller disc.
I hear ya. This is just a first look video to give you all early insights. We'll get some pro reviews for a legit Flight School video. I do think it's a disc that most intermediate and advanced players will dig because of it's sneaky distance for modest power throwers, like me. Hoping it's relatable in that way.
90% of players can't throw like pros. See: all the people throwing their brand new meathook Time Lapses.
I bet Kona's dad would whoop up on you out on the course.