After a busy half term holiday with kids I am back on the boat trying to build the galley but struggling with finish before I’ve even started #diy #boat #video
Great costumes--you look the part. And good to have an already-messy place to make a pumpkin carving mess. Having to be tidy and careful takes the fun out of it.
Hi James. You can buy plywood that has the grain running across the width of the sheet. I just call it bendy ply. Google it. you can get it from 1mm, right up to 6mm. (well that's the only sizes I've used). Used in multiple layers over a former. you can get some amazing curves. PVE glue works great. Good luck.Dave
to trim your finish veneer, use a trim router with a flush cut bit, at "high speed" that will give you a neat edge. Hang in there you're doing a good job of "problem solving"
If you use automotive spray adhesive, or a spray contact adhesive, you can use the particle board as a backer and then use a veneer like you did in the video.
Always use contact adhesive when bonding laminate to wood I’ve done this for many years and in my experience there is no other way 👍🏻👍🏻 Enjoy and have fun matey 👍🏻
Have you thought about contact cement...........However it bonds as soon as contacts the other side Thus contact cement. Need to put like spacers in between the 2 pieces. remove one spacer piece at a time to make contact. Just a thought.
Use an auto body paint filler combo as a primer coat and see if it can be sanded with a flexible sanding board or pad. We did it at a bank teller station years ago.
Agreed great idea. Had a guy build us units for work and he did exactly this and they were outstanding. He did a wide range of curves and I couldn't believe how they turned out.
Hi james, defo contact adhesive not that wood pva you used. Its a lot of faff making uiur own doors, you will have to laminate all the edgesxas well. Perhaos make the carcusses from ply and buy some pre finished doors. Sure will be cheaper in the long run. Or ho full out and buy carcusses as well.
I can tell you’ve had the kids for a week as there has been a marked deterioration in your language!! 😮😂😂 I have made several curved pieces by gluing several layers of 4/5 mm ply together ( pva ) . Also wetting or heating works well too. This is an easy process and very strong, basically making your own plywood. Good luck mate 👍
Hi James are you aware you can buy bendable mdf already grooved etc just set it to the shape and you could then paint it. Hope that helps also saves a load of time.
Have you thought about fiberglassing over the panels after you have formed them? Sand them down and paint them any color you like. Will also have added strength!
This is brilliant . All the best James and I wish I had some learned advice to impart to you , but , unfortunately I do not . I work in the ' business ' , but unfortunately I cannot help . You'll sort it .
If you are painting then use MR MDF. It’ll bend ok and after it is sanded on the curve the lines will almost vanish. Then paint in any colour you want.
Well you are trying your very best with different ideas hope u hit on one that’s right for you well done on the attempt for father of the year 🏅tc Jamie’s luv to you all the oldies 🤗🤗👍
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt I guess I was thinking more of the curves at the steps. But you could use a thinner curved board that shows lines, and put cork over the top.
groovy - literally! and very interesting. i just had a quick look and there are some lovely patterned laminate designs and that would help hide any ridges. but you can only do this for the kitchen unit carcasses surely - it won't form around the edges of doors.
I will watch tomorrow because we have been at a blues competition where the winner will go to the international blues challenge in Memphis the first of the year.
@@richardpos1 The best musician. I’m sure there’ll be a musician or two from England at the international blues challenge in Memphis. Twenty countries besides the USA will have musicians competing for a recording contract. Not only is it fun, but it helps unknown musicians get recognition for their hard work.
Having veneered a lot kitchen and bathroom units years ago, in my Dad's joinery business, if you go that route you should definitely use contact adhesive on both sides, and a flush bit in the router to trim the edges afterwards. Both techniques take a lot of time time and effort out of it give a good finish. But personally, I'd bite the bullet and buy proper 'bendy' ply.. Those veneers get scuffed and dirty very easily, especially on corners, with kids, and stuff being lugged in and out.. With ply, you can always repaint it when it needs freshening up.
I think once it's glued up a little light sanding may take care of those lines. Maybe you could also try more and closer cuts so each bend isn't as much an angle.
Take a look at ‘Upon Reflection’ with Paul and Liz & Ernie(the labradoodle). Paul made all their kitchen units, it might be worth asking him what wood he used.
Choose colours wisely ! Remember one day you will sell this vessel . I’ve by passed Halloween and gone straight on to Christmas ! Watched a few classics, a Christmas carol and die hard one two three and four lol ! Bah humbug !!
If you are going to go with a veneer treat your self to a de-burring tool and use a fine router to cut away the excess veneer then run the demurring tool along the edges to get a clean edge to it
Wondering, if you could leave the remaining thickness at one ply. Then after fixing the panel to its support or gluing the back side that fixes the curve. If you could then sand out the lines with a block and still have enough thickness afterwards.
Soak it , it opens up all the little cells within timber that have dried out . Soak it , immerse it in water for two days . Give it a day to dry a bit and try again .
Solid veneer has my vote. OR make the lines a design highlight?? Easing the corner, is what we call it in kitchen design over here in the US. Moat of us are just easing the corner of the worktop, you have it harder easing the whole cabinet! Hey, is that your dad doing a wicked guitar solo??
Morning James, like someone else said , try wetting the outer surface !! Though if you have access to one if them wall paper strippers .... yi know steam .... it'll make life easier ... As that will force the moisture you're after into the wood deeper .... Also rather than saw ,why not try router , with slimmest channel cutting blade .... which if I remember is around 3mm .... As with a wider channel ,there is more room for adjoining grooves to meet up ,meaning a few less cuts .. I know As I used this method on plywood , ages ago ... it worked a treat ... plus if you have 3mm of meat left to play with ,a light sanding makes em sweet !!! Had same bosch router ,and you can get 1/4 or 1/2 inch shanks ,according to collete, that holds your bits ... As with router you can have wider channels than saw blade ...plus a more measured depth !!! Which when steamed can ve around 3mm material left ... Then after cut you can steam facia , and life will be ever so easier !!!
Great costumes--you look the part. And good to have an already-messy place to make a pumpkin carving mess. Having to be tidy and careful takes the fun out of it.
Wetting the outside surface with a spray bottle will help the wood conform to the bend much smoother, reducing the cut lines.
That will not work .
Hi James. You can buy plywood that has the grain running across the width of the sheet. I just call it bendy ply. Google it. you can get it from 1mm, right up to 6mm. (well that's the only sizes I've used). Used in multiple layers over a former. you can get some amazing curves. PVE glue works great. Good luck.Dave
James , Evo Stick all the way mate
(Ex)Mrs.!? {with benefits?!}
Say the former ain't so James but the latter might be a treat.
LOL...
Hi James have you considered using a vinyl wrap for the wood.
to trim your finish veneer, use a trim router with a flush cut bit, at "high speed" that will give you a neat edge. Hang in there you're doing a good job of "problem solving"
"Me and The Missus" ???? WTF ????
If you use automotive spray adhesive, or a spray contact adhesive, you can use the particle board as a backer and then use a veneer like you did in the video.
Always use contact adhesive when bonding laminate to wood
I’ve done this for many years and in my experience there is no other way 👍🏻👍🏻
Enjoy and have fun matey 👍🏻
Have you thought about contact cement...........However it bonds as soon as contacts the other side Thus contact cement.
Need to put like spacers in between the 2 pieces. remove one spacer piece at a time to make contact.
Just a thought.
No worries mate..take your time. We appreciate the effort all this takes, especially with the kids. Crack on!
Hi James I think you can bend plywood by heating it with a heat gun or steam Tony from Calabash
Use an auto body paint filler combo as a primer coat and see if it can be sanded with a flexible sanding board or pad. We did it at a bank teller station years ago.
Agreed great idea. Had a guy build us units for work and he did exactly this and they were outstanding. He did a wide range of curves and I couldn't believe how they turned out.
Love the music James and your tenacity in finding a solution. Great party costume. Many thanks and take care.
It worked out nicely you both spruced up horrifying good well done 😊😊😊
You look like Clark Gables stunt double with that mustache
Hi james, defo contact adhesive not that wood pva you used. Its a lot of faff making uiur own doors, you will have to laminate all the edgesxas well. Perhaos make the carcusses from ply and buy some pre finished doors. Sure will be cheaper in the long run. Or ho full out and buy carcusses as well.
I can tell you’ve had the kids for a week as there has been a marked deterioration in your language!! 😮😂😂
I have made several curved pieces by gluing several layers of 4/5 mm ply together ( pva ) .
Also wetting or heating works well too.
This is an easy process and very strong, basically making your own plywood.
Good luck mate 👍
Hi James are you aware you can buy bendable mdf already grooved etc just set it to the shape and you could then paint it. Hope that helps also saves a load of time.
Have you thought about fiberglassing over the panels after you have formed them? Sand them down and paint them any color you like. Will also have added strength!
This is brilliant . All the best James and I wish I had some learned advice to impart to you , but , unfortunately I do not . I work in the ' business ' , but unfortunately I cannot help . You'll sort it .
Two words, James: Evo Stik
Other contact adhesives are available.
What Ho!
Good old evo stick ! My pops swore by it !
If you are painting then use MR MDF. It’ll bend ok and after it is sanded on the curve the lines will almost vanish. Then paint in any colour you want.
George Roper (George & Mildred) is who you reminded me of. Showing my age...
I think the lines give quite an interesting texture!
cut the veneer into strips and stick on vertically like vertical louvres...like they do on the round kitchen cabinets
Well you are trying your very best with different ideas hope u hit on one that’s right for you well done on the attempt for father of the year 🏅tc Jamie’s luv to you all the oldies 🤗🤗👍
Da Da da dum, click click.....!! Veneer lokks like a plan!
Have you considered cork sheet? It bends easily, and glued on easily.
But is it strong enough to be a kitchen ?? I guess it could be laminated
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt I guess I was thinking more of the curves at the steps. But you could use a thinner curved board that shows lines, and put cork over the top.
The Mrs!?
groovy - literally! and very interesting. i just had a quick look and there are some lovely patterned laminate designs and that would help hide any ridges. but you can only do this for the kitchen unit carcasses surely - it won't form around the edges of doors.
Hi James loved the video its deffo 1st fix is doing welll ķeep up the good work and vid s and hope the beard grows back soon
I will watch tomorrow because we have been at a blues competition where the winner will go to the international blues challenge in Memphis the first of the year.
Who gets to win a blues competition? The most unhappy person?😂😊
@@richardpos1
The best musician. I’m sure there’ll be a musician or two from England at the international blues challenge in Memphis. Twenty countries besides the USA will have musicians competing for a recording contract. Not only is it fun, but it helps unknown musicians get recognition for their hard work.
Sorry, that’s just my English sense of humour coming out! I’m also jealous because I didn’t get an invite! You take care …..
@@richardpos1
I’ll send you one next year
Just wondering if you could use a much thinner ply with some structural support if needed (ie batons). Curve bending ?
There is a product called “bendy mdf” here in the US. It’s 2/4” 6.3 mm and designed for bending
Having veneered a lot kitchen and bathroom units years ago, in my Dad's joinery business, if you go that route you should definitely use contact adhesive on both sides, and a flush bit in the router to trim the edges afterwards. Both techniques take a lot of time time and effort out of it give a good finish. But personally, I'd bite the bullet and buy proper 'bendy' ply.. Those veneers get scuffed and dirty very easily, especially on corners, with kids, and stuff being lugged in and out.. With ply, you can always repaint it when it needs freshening up.
as your going to paint it just buy the per cut mdf
I think once it's glued up a little light sanding may take care of those lines. Maybe you could also try more and closer cuts so each bend isn't as much an angle.
Take a look at ‘Upon Reflection’ with Paul and Liz & Ernie(the labradoodle). Paul made all their kitchen units, it might be worth asking him what wood he used.
Choose colours wisely ! Remember one day you will sell this vessel . I’ve by passed Halloween and gone straight on to Christmas ! Watched a few classics, a Christmas carol and die hard one two three and four lol ! Bah humbug !!
Can you paper it with plan
wall paper and then paint it I don’t know but you are amazing at what you do
James, where did you get that veneer from.please? We are looking for something similar tobteh white you have. Thanks x
How about sticky back vinyl rather than veneer?
You can buy flexible mdf everywhere or if you insist on cutting your own, go to b&q measure the cuts there?
If you are going to go with a veneer treat your self to a de-burring tool and use a fine router to cut away the excess veneer then run the demurring tool along the edges to get a clean edge to it
Wondering, if you could leave the remaining thickness at one ply. Then after fixing the panel to its support or gluing the back side that fixes the curve. If you could then sand out the lines with a block and still have enough thickness afterwards.
Steam l do not know if it would be better, same, or worse than water. It's used to build boats with planking.
Try a flush bit in your trim router to cut the edges.
go for the bendable pre kerfed MDF if painting so much less stress
you may not fancy doing it but impact adhesive for the laminate
Soak it , it opens up all the little cells within timber that have dried out . Soak it , immerse it in water for two days . Give it a day to dry a bit and try again .
Nice job with the veneer. 1st few will be hard until you get your eye in. Have you thought that vanta black might be a good colour?
Solid veneer has my vote. OR make the lines a design highlight?? Easing the corner, is what we call it in kitchen design over here in the US. Moat of us are just easing the corner of the worktop, you have it harder easing the whole cabinet! Hey, is that your dad doing a wicked guitar solo??
I like your way of thinking James, well done 👍
For glueing have you thought about vacuum pressure bags that give an even pressure just a thought
How's about giving us the way you make Sloe Gin or better astill make a vlog showing us. Love the programe James an avid viewer. Regards Gary.
Morning James, like someone else said , try wetting the outer surface !! Though if you have access to one if them wall paper strippers .... yi know steam .... it'll make life easier ...
As that will force the moisture you're after into the wood deeper ....
Also rather than saw ,why not try router , with slimmest channel cutting blade .... which if I remember is around 3mm ....
As with a wider channel ,there is more room for adjoining grooves to meet up ,meaning a few less cuts ..
I know As I used this method on plywood , ages ago ... it worked a treat ... plus if you have 3mm of meat left to play with ,a light sanding makes em sweet !!!
Had same bosch router ,and you can get 1/4 or 1/2 inch shanks ,according to collete, that holds your bits ...
As with router you can have wider channels than saw blade ...plus a more measured depth !!!
Which when steamed can ve around 3mm material left ...
Then after cut you can steam facia , and life will be ever so easier !!!
nice pictures
👍
Contact adhesive mate, there’s no other glue for that job wasting your time with that stuff
Contact adhesive
Mate your old lady is fit.
I kind of don't mind the lines
3:06 wood prices are crazy recycle as much as you possibly can mate
hi dude try hot water to bend
👍👌❤️🇨🇦,
You are fannying around a lot , just get it done , no offence . Worrying about curves ....... I would have had that project done months ago .