NFC North Predictions (2023)
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- It's finally time. Today we begin breaking down & predicting the outcome of every Division. First up is the NFC North.
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As a Lions fan, I'm happy to see that we're on the top of the predictions list. This proves definitively that humans are incapable of learning from history.
I think Tom just doesn't want to admit that like last year, this division is the Vikings' to lose. Of course he does have a valid note that the Vikings have by far the hardest schedule in the division.
I mean I don’t think the past 30 years is gonna affect next year
Just remember to take this with a grain of salt, you are the lions after all so don’t get your hopes up.
-Bears fan
@@kittylarkin1236 Um, be a Lions fan for 30 years then get back to me
Sounds like you’re talking about the jets also😂
This division is incredible. The entire division could be awful or could end up being good. Such a weird one.
Combined with the possibility of the AFC North being a potential bloodbath with the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals (hell even the Browns could be good) it's going to make the North Saga the best of all
@Doommaster677 the end of the North saga all the teams are dead. The rest of the NFL: What happened?
@@Doommaster677East divisions are easily better
@@thomascusack687idk about easily but I would also argue they are better than the Northern divisions.
@@Doommaster677the east are better bro
The bears having a winning record and still finishing last in the division would be the most bears thing ever
Happened before under Lovie (10-6)
@@samuelblackwell3762 we were third that year, lions were 4-12
@@WFM oh yeah good catch
@samuelblackwell3762 I remember that year. The Bears needed the Packers to win in the last week for them to make the playoffs. And the Packers lost. The one time Bears fans had to root for the Packers gave them yet another reason to hate their rival. If that isn’t the most Bears thing to happen, I don’t know what is
@@nicholasselke5214 just wow I truly hope they give em a beatdown week 1 at home now
This division is genuinely so much more competitive than I thought it was going to be. Any of them could be last now
You mean the bears???
Anyone know what the clip at 6:13 is from?
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@@badrapsample2212 thanks
That opening was incredible
Screaming intro that you better like or gtfo😂
“Better late than never, you know who would’ve preferred that? The Titanic.” 😂😂
took me the whole intro to get that joke 😂
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As a bears fan, i want to say thank you Tom. That was a very honest opinion of the team
I’m hopeful to squeak out 10 wins. But very fair assessment.
I think the ceiling was a little low and the floor a little high
even gave the pack a lower floor... if his end of year rankings were based on floor, he'd have gb in 4th
Back to check how accurate Grossi was:
Green Bay
Predicted: 10-7 -> 6-11
Actual: 9-8
Detroit
Predicted: 12-5 -> 9-8
Actual 12-5 (Literally headbutted the ceiling XD)
Chicago
Predicted: 9-8 -> 7-10
Actual: 7-10 (And literally headbutted the floor! XD)
Minnesota
Predicted: 10-7 -> 7-10
Actual: 7-10
Got em all within the range, though most just barely
waiting for toms reaction in January after all four teams go 6-11
You gotta explain that take, boss. It smells like bait
NFC South is 6-11 no way we let the NFC north beat our shittiness
I think the lions will be over 500 Vikings will be under 500 packers could go either way really depends on love and the bears are going to be a 6-7win team
I have Vikings at 8-9 cause they would either win by 3-7 or loose by 14-21
@@MDestroyerX I agree. I'd say the Vikings could still have a winning record, but their schedule plus all the losses they had in the off-season make me lean towards lower win numbers
I predict that to balance last year, they will win 8 games all by massive blowouts and lose nine close games. Missing the playoffs entirely and yet having the highest point differential of a losing team ever.
Tom “ I’ve been waiting to do this since February 13” Grossi. It feels so nice to these again ❤️💚💛
As a Vikings fan I think are ceiling is 12-5. Optimistic yes but all the other teams are in a new era. The lions have a lot of questions about consistency. Packers have a new QB for the first time since 2008. And the bears had the 1st pick last year Justin Fields hasn’t won anything it’s all potential.
Was also thinking a ceiling around there. 10-7 or slightly lower is probably where they’re going to be, but that doesn’t mean I think it’s incredibly bold to say 12-5 could happen.
I think they’ll be a slightly better team than they were last year, but as we saw, how good you are doesn’t always equate to your record. Vikings got a bit lucky on some games. I thought they’d be a 9-8 team last year, so anything less than 10-7 seems like a regression, not a ceiling to strive for.
You guys need to clean up those 1 score games, though... No way that happens again. For comparison's sake, the Bears had 8 losses by 1 score. If the Bears defense was just a little better last year, they would've been a 8 win team, at least. Records can be deceiving when you're barely winning every game, and also being an easy pick as a one-and-done in the playoffs. But hey, I guess wins are wins.
@@MFBlooshVikings had the worst defense in the league last year. it would be pretty hard (especially with Flores) to not improve on that side of the ball. the D was the main reason games were close. only big loss on offense was Cook but I think Mattison will do a decent job. 12-5 is not a stretch for a ceiling.
on the other hand we have a tough schedule and thus the 7-10 floor.
I see 4 definite L’s; 2-3 tough, but winnable games. Say they split with the Lions and Packers: I have the Vikings ceiling at 11-6/floor at 8-9. I will be surprised if they don’t regress, the question is just by how much. The North doesn’t have a SB caliber team anyway.
@@TicklishViking True, which is the same way I feel about my Bears. No way they can be worse, especially on defense picking up people like Edmunds and Edwards. Only reason the defense ended up plummeting is because we got rid of our 2 best guys in Quinn and Smith. With both teams, Vikings and Bears, both records could've easily been extremely different than they ended up being. One team won 11 games by a score, and the other team lost 8 games by a score. That's the NFL for ya though. As I said, wins are all that matter at the end of the day.
I was wondering if you were gonna do these this year. Glad you’re still doing them!
Finally a packers fan who is realistic about their mid team and not hating on the bears every single second
Tom is and always will be the 🐐
As a Bears fan, I think that was a very fair assessment and I would be happy with both the ceiling and the floor
I think our ceiling is 10 or 11 but pretty fair
@@merlehexum3932”cowling”
@@merlehexum3932 *Packers
@@merlehexum3932What are you talking about why do you think we're gonna be that garbage?
@merlehexum3932 we are a 6-9 win team this year
Of all the NFC divisions, the NFC North is the one of all time.
I'm thinking Detroit will have a BONKERS regular season where they go 11-2 to start, then lose their last 4.
Minnesota I have squeaking into a wild card since their schedule is rough, but very doable for them to return to the postseason.
Green Bay and Chicago are gonna use this season to build up Love and Fields and also hold their own or even upset some playoff/division contenders like the Chargers, Saints, Browns, and Giants. Looking forward to this season!
I'm so looking forward to a season of new styles and reworking powers! The lions are coming up, the vikings are in a good place for once, the Packers and the Bears are both fairly young. So exciting!
Yeah, I have the Bears probably having 8 wins. That's almost 3x better than last year! And as long as one of those wins in week 1 then I think the season will be great. Even if I go with their floor, at 5 wins, as long as week 1 is the win it doesn't matter. No way are they making the playoffs though. I'm not even that deluded.
Seems like realistic predictions Tom, and this should be another fun season. Cheers and keep up the great work! SKOL!!
@@Silverado58After last year's performance and Vikings fans saying people were sleeping on them? Yeah, nah. I'll believe it when they win games in an actually convincing manner instead of barely scraping wins from some of the worst teams in the league.
@SomeOfTheJuice "you didn't win good enough"
@@SpicyTortilla69as evidenced by the Chargers and Vikings last year, yes that is true
Rare year where every team in north has a legit path to win division and are being hyped in offseason. I think all teams finish between 7 and 10 wins
The Bears have no chance
As a Vikings fan idk how to feel this year! All I’m hoping for is a bit of that voodoo luck and an actual defense so maybe we won’t fall flat on our face when it matters most!
The NFC North can go so many ways depending on if Justin Fields breaks out and how Jordan Love looks. This potentially could be a very competitive division.
Your titanic line made me smile. Thank you Grossi !
As a Vikings fan, let's be honest, saying that the Packers could split a division series against the Vikes is true basically every year. The Vikings could set every single season record in the same year, utterly dominate every other team and yet STILL find a way to embarrass themselves in Lambeau.
I've grown to love you Tom. From a Pittsburgh fan that lived in Colorado for 8 years that found you through Perna. Back in Pennsylvania now but still follow you goons.
This division truly is wide open this year if we’re all realistic and fair when looking at things. We don’t know much about Love yet, Bears roster is improved, Lions are expected to breakout this year, and I think the Vikings will fall off a little bit from last year but they could still be in contention for the division
Scrappy or not, I think this is going to be really close for the division title, so good luck everyone :)
Lions do look tough
this year should be much more fun than last year! 🐻⬇️
Going into week 11 that prediction standing looks pretty accurate
I just want the bears to win 7 games that’s enough of an improvement for me
Agree. If they do that and Love is bad for the Packers they will be in prime position to take over the division in 2025
Packers floor is 4 wins
Ceiling is 8, maybe 9
Expect struggles, and stagnant offensive play at times.
Im in the minority as someone who likes Love but dont necessarily feel fantastic coming out of preseason.
Hopefully im proven wrong by week 9 or 10.
I think the Vikings will be a better team than they were last year but will likely have a slightly worse record, they also added a ton of young players which could either make their team a lot better or worse. But they have a top tier offense and their defense can’t really be worse so I definitely think they take the north again
The Shieldmaidens will be worse across the board, with the lone exception being WR. There is no hope for you 😢
@@LionsOnTheHunt313 Lions haven’t won a playoff game in 30+ year lol bro. This ain’t your year either🥱🥱
@@thebosstaco6870 Since your so into history, tell me what the Lions Division record was last year? This year gonna be a clean sweep🙂
@@LionsOnTheHunt313 keep the cockiness it will come back to bite you I love all the “ oh lions are gonna take the division “ it’s so funny
@@BrianEgan-f5jnot our fault you were the biggest frauds in the NFL how is it that we have a better point differential than your team yet you guys had the better record? The answer is luck and mind you most of our roster last year were rookies and sophomores and now they all have another year of experience if each improve by a little bit which is suspected from them then the lions would be significantly better than last year.
Looking back surprisingly on point
1. Vikings 10-7
2. Lions 9-8
3. Packers 7-10
4. Bears 6-11
I got bears at 8-9 packers at 9-8
@@TheChicagogamer could happen
Tom "The Defense has to be elite this time or I might stop talking about them" Grossi
love the content, brother!
Packers have had a hold on the division for 25 years. And in there the bears and Vikings had good years. This is the first year the division is truly wide open with the Detroit Lions holding the slight edge
I think the vikings celing is 12 wins, they would split with lions and then lose to 49ers Bengals Cheifs and Eagels
So excited to see what happens this season
I'm a Vikings fan. Given how poorly my fav teams' defense played last year, and how lucky they were on offense, my expectation for them is fairly low. Honestly, if they finish 9-7 it's probably their ceiling.
The Lions finished last year quite well, and I expect them win the division.
Great video Tom!
Vikings defence got younger and more aggressive and will stop a few drives at least and the offense is one of the best and most underrated offenses in the league. The best wide reciever, one of the best WR3s itl, and a top 3 TE itl. The Vikings ceiling is 13-4 for me and the floor is 9-7.
@@empvmsDropinson is like TE 12-15 lol.
@@empvms True on Justin J. I think we're going to miss Dalvin.
@@brianmiller6995Then again, this is a pass heavy offense. We got the best weapons itl and we are going to utilize them very well. Mattison can help us but its going to be very pass reliable offense.
My bet is 8-9 or 9-8 ❤ u Tom. Another year, here we go!
Perfect day to release this! On my birthday! Thanks Tom
Happy Birthday
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Happy Birthday, Carter!
I personally think that while a lot of the hype for the Lions is warranted, I also don't feel super impressed by their roster. Goff has to prove he can be consistently the guy, the WRs behind Amon-Ra are suspect, very young and unimpressive TE room, and a lot of holes in the defense still despite making a lot of improvements. Their depth is sub-par as well, so if they have even one key injury it could derail their entire season. That said, I agree, 10-7 is a fair ceiling, but wouldn't be surprised if they finished 2nd or even 3rd in the division
Sounds like you're coping lol
Goff was the best QB in the division last year throwing 29TDs 4500 yards an only 7int's. O int's in the last 9 games. Goff lead a top 5 offense with those same suspect unimpressive WRs an TEs all year long. 😅😬 So does that make Goff the real MVP since he did so well with a subpar group? Lol
On defense the Lions are way better than last year. Yeah they could maybe use more depth at DT an CB but besides that they have good depth.
Lions have the best safety group in the NFL. C. J Gardner, T. Walker, K. Joseph, an B. Branch. Branch has been so impressive he might actually start. It's a very versatile group as well. Gardner an Branch can both play slot corner or nickelback at a very high level.
At outside CB Sutton, Mosely, Joseph are a good group. LBs are solid with the addition of J. Campbell. He has been a stud so far. Anzolone is solid, Barnes has stepped up, an Rodrigo is a beast.
Lions are deep with DEs. Hutch is going to be a monster this year. C. Harris an R. Okwara are both coming back from missing most of last year. Then we still have J. Houston, Cominsky, Paschal, J. Okwara. Alim McNeill is at beast at DT an transformed his body this year. I expect big things for him this year.
Lions defense may not be elite but will be way better than last years defense an at least be average. So I don't really see all these holes you're talking about. The only one single player that would derail the Lions season if hurt would be Goff.
@@merlehexum3932 What are you talking about? Lol. The Lions offense broke records last year. They were 4th in yards an 5th in scoring. They were in the top of every major offensive category, higher than the Vikings.
Cousins is not better than Goff. Goff 29 TDs an 7 INTs is a lot better than Cousins 29 TDs an 14 INTs 😅😬
As for TEs, Hockenson is ok but theirs a reason why we traded him. He drops way too many balls an goes down easy with contact. Lions finished 2nd in the NFL for most TE TD'S last year way ahead of the Vikings. We have a solid group with LaPorta, Wright, an Mitchell.
Jefferson is amazing but besides him who do the Vikings have? Addison.. a unproven rookie. Lions have a really good group in St. Brown, Jamo, Marvin Jones, Reynolds, an Raymond. Our 5th WR Raymond had around 100 recs an 1200 yards the last 2 years 😬😬
Lions O-line is top 3 in the NFL an Lions RB group is way better than the Vikings especially since Cook left. Ben Johnson is one of the best offensive coordinators in the NFL. He was one of the hottest names for a head coaching job for a few teams but turned them down to stay in Detroit.
Sorry but facts are facts. Lions beat the Vikings in pretty much every offensive category last year. Theirs a reason why almost everyone has the Lions winning the North.
@@merlehexum3932 You got one thing right... Hockenson finished at the top in dropped passes for a TE lol. If Kirk is so good then why does the Vikings want to get rid of him? 😅😬
It's not just the media.. Vegas odds have Lions winning. Vegas is not in the business to lose money. You must of forgot about last year. Lions should have won both games against the Vikings. Lions led pretty much the entire first game till the end an the 2nd game Vikings got their ass stomped lol Lions were 5-1 in the division so cope some more 😬🤣🤣
@@merlehexum3932 It's so funny you say Cousins is the best, Jefferson is the best, Hockenson is the best, coaches are the best but yet Kirk threw TWICE the amount of INTs as Goff. lol Something just don't add up 😅😬
Sry to ruin your day but the Vikings went down in history for the worst 13 win team ever an choked against the Giants lol
@@merlehexum3932 My bet is that Cousins won't even be a Viking after this year 😅😬🤣
Editing is beautiful!
You're the only packers fan i willingly watch 😂 (Vikings fan btw)
Same bro. Skol!
Same SKOL!
Also we going like 11-6 not 7-10
I'll go even deeper... As a New Jersean, Tom's the only guy from New York that I could listen to talk about another team that isnt in New York.
me too!! SKOL
Lions: 11-6
Vikings: 10-7
Packers: 7-10
Bears: 6-11
Love this for the Bears, Tom. I have them at 7 wins this year. Still so much to address across the roster, need another offseason for sure to continue to build. Especially in the trenches. Fields has enough to where he should be able to show improvement in the pass game. It's in his hands to make it happen. Feel good about it as he was dragging a bottom of the league roster last year to somehow being competitive week in and week out vs some damn good teams. We'll see how it plays out.
Okay the Rise Against shirt! I see you Tom!!
I must be the only Bears fan in the country who isn't completely confident about this season. O Line is injured already, 1st defense looks mid, and I doubt we'll be able to rely on our run game like we did last season, especially if we want Justin to stay healthy. I feel like this is going to be one of those years where every NFC North team finishes around .500 and it's going to come down to the last few games.
You are the goat I saw you at the packers stadium but I was too scared to say hi
Nice analysis Tom. Should be a fun year in the north
Bears fan here. I agree with Tom. Whenever we get that sliver of 3+ prime time games we lose or don't reach expectations. Fields I'm praying to pass when he should instead of panic and run. I rather go in 2024 with all the pieces in place instead of a mysterious playoff run and overachieving 2023 season. Packers win first meet up Bears win 2nd meet up
This was a pretty unbiased video considering your team is in the division … nice job
The most sane packers fan i have seen so far. I have heard way to many people saying packers go 12-5
1st, Lions (11-6)
2nd, Vikings (8-9)
3rd, Bears (8-9)
4th, Packers (7-10)
Sorry Tom, but it’s time for the Pack to live in the basement for a season.
I don't fully agree with your list. The Vikings were 13-4 last year. But it's not a bad list tho so I'll give you that
Love you Grossi. I never pretend like I don’t disagree often with you but you’re one of my favorites!
Still can’t believe I met you at the packers pats preseason game! You’re a great guy and my mom liked you to lol
Points for honesty. As a long time Lions fan, I have to block all the moonbeams, rainbows and lollipops of hype out. The signing of Bridgewater showed me that this management is serious about any issues with depth and injury. I hope that you are right. We will know in January.
Bridgewater may just be starting for the Lions by week 10
I'm not sold on Justin Fields... What have have the Packers not been able to win against for the last 20 years? Running QBs... Did that help Justin last year? Not at all.
Packers 10-7
Lions 13-4
Bears 11-6
Vikings 8-9 all at best
Good assessment of the Bears, plus I loved how you described the Vikings as "the purple incarnation of Satan "😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
A Bo Burnham reference in a Tom Grossi video?!? Hell yeah!
My prediction
Vikings
Lions
Packers
Bears
Lions (best rooster, will make the next step, but will see an early end in the play offs. The team of the future)
Vikings (has a good run, but I think they will regress somewhat. They had always some pieces together, but not the whole picture, and now they are running out of time))
Packers (Rodgers gone, and Love won't fill the gap, they will be third because the Bears will need more time. A long rebuild is ahead of the Packers)
Bears (If Fields progress continues, and the Bears do their homework, they will dominate with the Lions the NFC North for the second half of this decade)
My guess/opinion, before watching the video.
Let see what the Brady hater has to say. ;)
Packers have 12 or 13 games that will be difficult to win but only 3 really hard games. 7-10 incoming.
Good to have you back Grossi. Thx.
I think if the Vikings offense can replicate some of what they had last year, and their defense improves to even mid-tier, their ceiling could be pretty high. But if that defense is the same as last year... MAXIMUM OOF.
Honestly I love your brutal honesty. I went into this video thinking you were going to put the packers on top but you gave a very fair evaluation. Love your videos and love the “I Think You Should Leave” clips!!
It’s a little detail, but I appreciate the I Think You Should Leave references in the video
I really agree with you on the packers. My ceiling for them was 12-5 and the floor I had 6-11 as well. Now not saying they will end up going 12-5 only a packers fan can hope lol. I realistically see them possibly being a 8-9 team again. But man it would be awesome to see somehow Love lead them to a 12-5 record lol. Go pack go!!! Definitely excited for this year season no matter how it goes.
Think it could be
1. Lions 10-7 or 11-6
2. Bears 9-8
3. Vikings 8-9
4. Packers 6-11 or maybe
1. Lions
2. Vikings
3. Bears
4. Packers
somewhere around there.
Most elite intro ive ever seen 💀
Me personally
1. Lions (10-7)
2. Bears (9-8)
3. Vikings(9-8)
4. Packers (8-9)
Ik I'm crazy with Chicago, but there's no way they completely suck this year, especially with Moore and Edmunds on the team now; I think Minnesotas overrated a tad but that defense is their Achilles heel and with the Lions and Bears (if they live up to potential), your not gonna need it to be just Harrison Smith and Danielle Hunter. Packers are an enigma tho.
I hate where we're at as a Bears fan. Going from being hopeful to hearing about the O-line losses is super troubling. I think we will be seeing more of Justin running and I'll enjoy it. It's entertaining to watch, but this was supposed to be the season we get to see if he can be the guy in that pocket and only run when he wants to, not needs to. I was happy about Bagent and how Tyler Scott did in the return game. So, we'll just have to see. Either we make progress or get better draft picks :P No one expected this to be the year for us, but if we can set ourselves up for next year, I'll take it.
I always give a plus/minus win loss total and I think you're spot on with these predictions. As a vikings fan if I'm being completely honest, I have them at 10-7 plus or minus one game.. so 11-6 to 9-8. They'll find a way to "viking it up" lol, been breaking my heart since Randy was a rookie. Black and blue division for life, much respect Tom!
Floor for the lions in my opinion is 9-8. Ceiling is 13-4.
I'm a vikings fan. I agree Tom they have alot of question marks. My main concern is the offense line.
Dont forget the DLine is one of the worst in the league along with the Trash Pandas 🙂
@@LionsOnTheHunt313 no
Bears: Ceiling 9-8, Floor 4-13
Lions: Ceiling 12-5, Floor 8-9
Packers: Ceiling 10-7, Floor 3-14 (real boom or bust season for GB!)
Vikings: Ceiling 11-6, Floor 6-11
Honestly, waiting until the pre-season is done for predictions is smarter anyway.
Insightful comment about the video despite the fact my team isn’t in this video but I feel obliged to mention my team on each video. So as a Broncos fan, love you Tom.
0:51 those things were for a great cause!!! We waited for a reason Tom!!! 🐻⬇️
I’m a bears fan and going 9-8 and getting last wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest. NFC north is very underrated this season
Arlington Heights Bears! 😂
For the packers, I'd say their floor is 7 and 10 and their ceiling is 12 and 5
You have the Bears a little tighter than I thought. I was giving them a probable 8-9 season but the floor being 5 wins and the ceiling being 10.
Hey Tom I started watching your content at the start of last season of football and enjoy all the content you make.
For me, it's between Lions and Bears to win the North. I don't see Vikings being terrible but I don't think they're gonna replicate what they done last year and Packers are in brand new territory so there's that. Lions already should promise last year, I'm expecting them to continue that drive and Bears are more built this time around so they should put up a better fight
On that note:
Packers: 8-9/9-8 depending
Lions: 11-6/12-5 depending on the matchup against Chiefs and divisonal matches
Bears: 12-5/13-4 depending
Vikings: 10-7/11-6 depending on divisional matchups and final three game stretch
You seriously think the Bears are going to win 12 or 13 games? Lol
Found the Bears fan lol who is your copium supplier?
@@joer1678 i also said Lions winning 12 games too so what's the difference?
@@rolandlipscomb4920 actually, I'm a AFC team supporter. I could care less about NFC but I won't bash them to hell and back either
You had me until I saw your Bears record. The only team I'm confident could win the division is the Vikings. Their defense was terrible last year and they still won 13 games.
I think your Bears prediction is a little off. I think we have both a lower floor, if Fields just absolutely isn't the guy, and higher ceiling, if Fields absolutely balls out and our defense doesn't suck (that feels very weird to say as a lifelong Bears fan). I think the range you gave is the most likely, and I would be very happy with 8-9 or 9-8 and either just missing the playoffs or just making the playoffs (see Lions and Jaguars from last year), but I think there are way too many unknowns as of right now for the Bears to have the narrowest spread in the division. Thanks for all the great content you make though!
Imma throw mine out there:
Detroit - Low: 7-10 High: 13-4 (Division Winners (Finally!))
Green Bay - Low: 5-12 High: 12-5 (Probably a wild card)
Minnesota - Low: 4-13 High: 10-7 (I sense the frauds will be exposed)
Chicago - Low: 3-14 High: 8-9 (2nd lowest in the conference, behind a certain red birb)
I would say our ceilings 9 winds are floors 6. We don't really have a reason to tank now that we have the panthers pick. my prediction is 8-9 miss playoffs
Bears fan here. I think Tom's assesment of the division is fair.
Personally, I think the packers are about 2 wins too optimistic. I also think the Bears are not as predictable as an 8 win +/-1 team. I think their ceiling is 10 wins and their floor is 6 wins.
Goated band on your T-shirt Tom
Here's the real prediction and what will really happen.
1. Vikings
2. Vikings
3. Lions
4. Bears
Kind of wild but after looking at every game this year here’s my predictions:
Lions 14-3 (1 seed and only team in the NFL to sweep division, loses to the Eagles in the playoffs)
Bears 8-9
Packers 7-10
Vikings 5-12 😂
I’m a Vikings fan and I don’t see the team repeating the same success they had last year. I do see us winning the division but will be tough
I'm getting old-fashioned "Black-and-Blue Division" vibes from the NFC North this year,...but thats just me.😊
I like the detroit prediction Tom 👌
This man has the best podcast of all the nfc teams and I say that as a bears fan
The Bears are a year away. They still need dline and oline help. Fields is gonnna be running for his life again, and the secondary is gonna get torched because qbs will have 6 years to sit in the pocket. They got weapons and shiny new linebackers, but the dline is still lacking a consistent pass rusher. Aaron Jones is gonna gash us with our lack of quality interior lineman, same issue last year. Ngokwe or whatever is an 8 sack rotation man, him being our best rusher is a problem. The oline needs help too. When healthy I like their oline this year. From left to right, you have Jones going into his 2nd year, Jenkins who's the best lineman they have but is injured already and can't stay healthy. Whitehair moved back to guard with the Jenkins injury but he's been at center all of camp. He somehow made a probowl at center in 2018 and got benched the year after for constantly having snap issues, from snaps at the knees to snaps over the qbs head, Trubisky way chasing his snap everywhere. I'd prefer they leave him at guard and he not have his hand on the ball. Nate Davis at RG is a solod pick up and Wright is an untested rookie. Problem is 2 of the 5 are already injured and 2 of the other 3 are young and unproven tackles. This years gonna be rough again. The bears need trench work befor they go anywhere.
My expectations for the season mainly stem from what Ryan Poles stated in one of his press conferences earlier in the offseason.
The rebuild will take three draft classes, last year being the first. Year one is all about evaluation and establishing the culture for the future. Year two (where we currently are) is about development. Having guys like Jaquan Brisker and Khalil Herbert make their bones in year two just like Justin Fields last year and Darnell Mooney the year before. Improvement is the biggest priority, even if the win/loss record doesn’t reflect that. Year three is about winning. You have the pieces around you and the team has developed long enough to start showing some results.
As long as I see improvement from our weakest areas last year, I’ll be happy no matter what the win/loss record says.
It makes more sense to do season predictions after the rosters are finalized anyway, you picked the perfect time IMO, get everyone hyped for the season the week before it starts.
It's the one and only Tom Grossi. SKOL
The Vikings hate is strong in this one. Won 13 games with having to play plenty of hard teams last year
I'm just happy to get a fun NFC North discussion. Ever since Detroit became the division favorites I feel our division has been relegated to the basement.
Honestly I don’t get the ceiling for the packers being higher than the bears, they both could be 6-11 or 12-5 ish trams
I think packers floor is a little lower along with the bears, but overall everything’s pretty accurate