Is God calling you to be a Lector, Acolyte or Catechist?

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  • @JohnLilburne
    @JohnLilburne 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The USA edition of Book of Blessings has “1828 This order is not intended for the institution of readers by the bishop who uses the rite contained in the Roman Pontifical.” There are clearly two different ceremonies. One makes someone an “instituted reader” the other does not. Perhaps reading the 1972 Motu Proprio of Saint Paul VI “Ministeria quaedam” would be helpful. It created the ministry of instituted lector. Regarding catechists the Book of Blessings was published before Pope Francis created “instituted catechists”. He wrote “I establish the lay ministry of Catechist” in Antiquum Ministerium of 10 May 2021.

    • @FaithHopeandLoveMinistry
      @FaithHopeandLoveMinistry 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your reply, yes I’m aware of that note but it has understood within the totality of the rite.
      The note is not intending to give us a yes or no answer the question I proposed, which was can the rites used in the book of blessings service permanent institutions, the pastor and people desire that they do?
      In the totality of the rite the parish lectors receive everything, in terms of grace and gifts of the spirit that the official instituted seminary lector does, it even allows for handing over of the Bible or lectionary.
      Perhaps the strongest argument comes from a sense of the faithful itself. In the global East and the Latin Rite the so-called temporary ministers are not considered temporary but instituted ministers.
      Without a shadow of a doubt, the ministry of catechist is on par with the other two official Roman instituted ministries, even before the recent letter by Pope Francis. Quite telling that even Francis/the church of Rome borrowed language and actually based its own right of catechist institution on the local catechist institution from the book of blessings.
      See
      quiapochurch.com.ph/ministries/extra-ordinary-ministry-of-holy-communion-lay-ministers/
      www.ihmpclaretqc.com/the-office-of-the-extraordinary-ministers-of-holy-communion/
      www.mccdubai.org/EMHC.php
      th-cam.com/video/kgohy__Tpqs/w-d-xo.html

    • @FaithHopeandLoveMinistry
      @FaithHopeandLoveMinistry 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes they are different than seminarian lectors blessed by the Roman rite but that difference I hope may have more to do with the litigious nature of church office than it does with the spiritual reality. In fact the whole situation could readily be resolved by understanding the parish lectors as local instituted ministers in accordance with Pope Paul the sixth own intention.
      "In addition to the offices universal in the Latin Church, the conferences of bishops may request
      others of the Apostolic See, if they judge the establishment of such offices in their region to be
      necessary or very useful because of special reasons. To these belong, for example, the ministries
      of porter, exorcist and catechist,5
      as well as others to be conferred on those who are dedicated to
      works of charity, where this ministry had not been assigned to deacons”

    • @FaithHopeandLoveMinistry
      @FaithHopeandLoveMinistry 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your reply, yes I’m aware of that note but it has understood within the totality of the rite.
      The note may not be able to give us a yes or no answer the question I proposed, which was can the rites used in the book of blessings service permanent institutions, the pastor and people desire that they do?
      In the totality of the rite the parish lectors receive everything, in terms of grace and gifts of the spirit that the official instituted seminary lector does, it even allows for handing over of the Bible or lectionary.
      Perhaps the strongest argument comes from a sense of the faithful itself. In the global East and the Latin Rite the so-called temporary ministers are not considered temporary but instituted ministers.
      Without a shadow of a doubt, the ministry of catechist is on par with the other two official Roman instituted ministries, even before the recent letter by Pope Francis. Quite telling that even Francis/the church of Rome borrowed language and actually based its own right of catechist institution on the local catechist institution from the book of blessings.

    • @FaithHopeandLoveMinistry
      @FaithHopeandLoveMinistry 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes they are different than seminarian lectors blessed by the Roman rite but that difference has more to do with the litigious nature of church office than it does with the spiritual reality. In fact the whole situation could readily be resolved by understanding the parish lectors as local instituted ministers in accordance with Pope Paul the sixth own intention.
      In addition to the offices universal in the Latin Church, the conferences of bishops may request
      others of the Apostolic See, if they judge the establishment of such offices in their region to be
      necessary or very useful because of special reasons. To these belong, for example, the ministries
      of porter, exorcist and catechist,5
      as well as others to be conferred on those who are dedicated to
      works of charity, where this ministry had not been assigned to deacons”

  • @JohnLilburne
    @JohnLilburne 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am pleased that the Brisbane archdiocese is encouraging people to become instituted ministers. I made a video about how an instituted lector is different to other lay readers, comparing them to deacons.
    Vestments.
    The Deacon has special vestments that distinguish him from others in the ceremony. He wears a stole, as a sash, while the Priest wears it a different way. He wears a vestment called the dalmatic, different to the chasuble that a Priest wears. An instituted lector is required to wear vestments, at some Masses, as explained in the Introduction to the Lectionary for Mass, n. 54: “During the celebration of Mass with a congregation a second priest, a deacon and an instituted reader must wear the distinctive vestment of their office when they go to the lectern to read the word of God. Those who carry out the ministry of reader just for the occasion or even regularly but without institution may go to the lectern in ordinary attire that is in keeping with local custom.” Not all Masses have a congregation. But for those Masses that do, the instituted lector must wear vestments.
    Being in the sanctuary.
    A deacon will be in the entrance procession at Mass and then remain in the sanctuary. He would not sit in the pews with the congregation. Similarly an instituted lector is to have a place in the sanctuary with the other ministers, as it say in the General Instruction of the Roman Missal, n. 195, the instituted lector is clearly required to be in the sanctuary for the whole of Mass. It describes the entrance procession and concludes with “Then the reader takes his own place in the sanctuary with the other ministers.” It is clear from the General Instruction of the Roman Missal, n. 99, that this is a description of the instituted lector’s function. What is the sanctuary? This part of the General Instruction of the Roman Missal explains it, from n. 295: “The sanctuary is the place where the altar stands, the Word of God is proclaimed, and the Priest, the Deacon, and the other ministers exercise their functions. Is should be appropriately marked off from the body of the church either by its being somewhat elevated or by a particular structure and ornamentation.”

    • @FaithHopeandLoveMinistry
      @FaithHopeandLoveMinistry 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I understand what you’re trying to do it’s a good thing but I think it’s Helpful to clarify that even though many local lectors may only be temporarily in place into the ministry, their time there is still a special and privileged proclamation of the word.
      It's also crucially important to realize that the value of the blessings in the book of blessings is much higher than what most Catholics seem to believe. Indeed they could actually be used as institutions provided the intention of the local priest was there. the blessings in the book of blessings are not intended to be institutions for local readers but that does not apply to local catechists. In case of the blessing of the catechist in the book of blessings is frankly very clear that this is an instituted ministry with an official and permanent character just as much as lectors and acolytes/sub deacons.
      In the case of the liturgy for the blessing of the altar servers and sacristans outside of Mass the preferred liturgy reading makes it clear that the ministry the persons are called to is prefigured by the ministry of the Levites in the Old Testament. That is a very strong liturgical continuity with instituted ministry even if in practice the intention of the community can go either in a temporary or permanent direction. In my parish altar servers are not usually thought of as something provisional and temporary. Likewise the United States the bishops have a requirement that is rarely enforced, that there be one server at every mass and it’s hardly practical to have an instituted acolyte/sub deacon at every mass. Again which makes the ministry altar server seem less provisional, and far more necessary and permanent.
      Likewise in Eastern Latin rite churches they have a very different in the West.

    • @FaithHopeandLoveMinistry
      @FaithHopeandLoveMinistry 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You should be able to find me by my name Dana Nussberger