The Truth About "Anonymous" VPNs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video I explain why Anonymous VPNs aren't possible, and the best providers for a pseudonymous VPN
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Because I totally trust a VPN with a soybeard logo.
The logo's mouth is closed so it's fine.
More of a hipsterbeard but yeah.
Not like hipster care about privacy
Ok buddy
numale + propecia + finasteride + minox = anonymous vpn user
For the youtube algorithm, so the normies get informed.
@European Onion Definitely fucking lmao
@@sid6645 i wouldn't use European tor, slow af tbh
@@sid6645 explain how
@European Onion nah his thumbnails do a good enough job gatekeeping
Mullvad should sponsor you :D
I hope not, if he receives money, how should anyone trust him.
@@Lolo5 Mental outlaw is better than that
@@arthursidortschuk5835 i think so too, but some people might not be sure
Mullvad doesn’t even sponsor people
Getting close to 100k king well done
Been using vpnAC for ages for the simple reason that they seem to be the only provider offering a professional faq at their site not only addressing normie questions but also going into operational details how they run their servers and a realistic logging policy
With all due respect, you seem to be forgetting one quite essential aspect: routing any and all traffic over a pseudo-anonymous VPN somewhat defeats the whole purpose. It merely moves the trust from the ISP to the VPN provider. Depending on the jurisdiction, this can actually be worse. Eg, if the user is an EU citizen, the VPN provider might actually be legally required to adhere to stricter laws than a VPN in a location that has little to no requirements.
"we do not keep any traffic log" Notice they're not at all saying your activity isn't being logged or even that the logs aren't being retained; only that its not by them. Their shin bet/FBI/ADL/cybereason "partner" isn't technically them. :)
Good point
@MatZ wrong skin color, noticing
The whole site, right down to its design screams fly-by-night chinese scam that definitely sells data that only a total smooth brain would pay for.
It gives me "free vpn app on the playstore" vibes.
Never trust hipster dude logos lol
they've goot weeeeed!
having a beard and sunglasses is being a hipster?
@@jaredballoonboy7944 shoar!
@@jaredballoonboy7944 yas
Fact XD
"we keep no logs" Kappa
Do a video on the pros and cons of hosting your own VPN on a VPS, it'd be great to hear your opinion on it.
Mental Outlaw - love the vids mate
I guess you need to sneak into as many places around the world to install a raspberry pi running a vpn in order to have a truly anonymous VPN with international nodes.
Unless you actually vet your VPN provider and verify for yourself, you really can't trust them. The company could be owned by some some foreign country that harvests data. Just because they say they don't keep _traffic_ logs, doesn't mean they aren't harvesting data from the traffic, storing firewall logs, storing security alerts, WAF logs, load balancer logs, and anything they don't consider _traffic_ logs. It also doesn't mean they don't cooperate with 3rd parties or law enforcement to let them monitor or keep logs of their own. There could also be traffic logs at other levels like the ISP of the VPN company. I think people put way too much blind trust into faceless VPN companies.
Very insightful, thanks.
First (to finish watching the video, on 2.75x speed)
woh
thats fast
2x gets boring after a while and becomes the standard 1x
Sus
@@lightningblizerd I kind of agree. Although mobile doesn't offer that speed option. 2X is the fastest
"Normie"
Amazing timing lmao I actually watched all your vids about VPNs like about hour ago.
Trust is the main obstacle for privacy
I just want a free Virtual Checkpoint Wiggle VPN that wiggles when I do tax fraud :(
Man, you are the official newspaper for geeks and infosec people. Love your channel
Any decent living being should know that anything served on a plate has previously been chewed, swallowed, digested and shat out.
Uh, this is a video about VPNs
what
@@adityapathak5761 He is saying that nothing is as good as it seems. If something over promises security it will be a bloated insecure mess.
Every time I see those designs with the dude with that beard, I always think "douche".
Recurring option - yeah, I'm sure that can be provided anonymously without tokenizing your credit card
A dude on my university would pay monthly clueless people to plug a box to someone’s modem or their own home modem, saying he was doing some mesh network research, I’m pretty sure he was setting up shady exit nodes, he still isn’t in jail so lucky him I guess
Liking before watching the video as always
Watching this from Kharkiv, Ukraine
@Mental Outlaw would you recommend using a vpn for day to day use?
1:50 that was well argumented, I'll be quoting you when argumenting with those kinds on the subject at hand
Ty I'm using your account now. Based black hacker man
You can't be 100% certain with anything today. Except if you're personally there to check it and you need knowledge to know what to check so back to start. You can't be 100% certain with anything today.
AIR VPN is pretty sick. You have to sign up with an email address but they accept monero, and right now it's 3 years for 60 Euro. Good deal.
Greatest thumbnail ever.
What about a prepaid Visa? From my understanding, you can use them just as you would a normal Visa card. Unsure if this would work but worth a thought.
I think you can buy those with cash but even then they probably have record of the store you bought them at and the time and they can link those records with the security cameras. I think the green dot was a similar method of "anonymous" payment awhile ago.
I'm sure this might start a argument somewhere along the way but have you looked into windscribe VPN at all I've been with them for a few months now and honestly have nothing but good things to say
Can you please cover dvpn's like Sentinel I would love to hear your opinion about that
I learn so much from you, thanks ^_^
Hey, I'm a collage student and I cannot afford to pay for a VPN, but I still need some privacy. Can you recommend any free VPNs which are atleast relatively privacy friendly?
ProtonVPN
You might just be better off using tor for certain things.
The maslpt looks like twitter user who uses his macbook only in starbucks
WAIT -- aren't there pre-paid debit cards which are supposed to be anonymous like cash? I though those were a thing
Really a mullvad-like VPN provider that is an Icelandic company with servers IN Iceland would be the only anonymous thing. (Iceland has the best privacy laws, no privacy treaties with other countries)
Iceland is also known as the most peaceful country these last few years. It really sounds like a nice country all around.
Everytime I hear something about iceland it make me even more believe its a paradise.
@@Cookiekeks For real! Lowest racism rates in Europe, extremely low poverty rate, extremely low crime rate, low pollution, mostly clean energy production(geothermal), extremely good laws, low false conviction rate, etc. Such a good place.
@@ergpopler413 On top of that comes the incredibely beautiful landscape. They also have good education, and they have very low electrcity costs. Fun fact: more than half of the electricity in iceland is using for crypto mining centers and data centers because its so cheap due to their thermic energy. I will definetly visit it when im older.
@@Cookiekeks well that crypto thing is kinda shitty, but yeah, iceland sounds chill
i wish privacy was built into the internet from the begining
Basically it was for sharing research between scientists. I really wish Tim burners-lee was more of a big brain.
What about Loki? It's basically something between tor and a VPN, from what I've seen and tried, although the software is a bit iffy.
I can smell the IPA hops and soy lattes through the screen
Dude, would be nice if you left the links you mention in your vids in the description!
I think I heard Mullvad is thinking of adding monero
as soon as you connect to the network, *they got you*
I didn´t know Luke Thomas (MMA/UFC dude) had a VPN Company.
Any thoughts about using Orbot for the VPN?
Nice
Support commentary
Can't you also get bitcoin anonymously by using an exchange service and exchanging monero for bitcoin?
I did not get notified..
So many demand to know phone numbers. Imagine if it was a real person going to every girl "Whats your phone number? You must tell me to be safe" they make a profit from the information they gather about you but at expense of your security.
Keep it up!
Pure gold
What if Mulvad accepted Monero?
What if you used multiple of them? If the first one keeps logs, it only sees you're conntecting to another VPN, if the second one keeps logs, it only sees the IP of the other VPN. Is that a good idea?
Actualling falling for the 9 proxies meme
@@duckmeat4674 I didn't know this is a meme, could you explain why its a bad idea?
@@Cookiekeks don’t know much, but I’m guessing it’s just that you’re trusting multiple vpns with all your activity, your ip and many other things. Also it’s slow asf
@@anotherarush If best case scenario is it is slightly slower than only one vpn. Worst case scenario is one breach at any part of the chain could cause everything to go down.
The only log is the one you can smell
prepaid visa/mastercard etc? dunno how the random (user created) email + random (user chosen) first+last carholder name instantly makes it not not pseudo anynon.... am I missing something? (i hate i have to write this but im not being sarcastic or rhetorical) please clue me in if that is the case
Could you make a video on i2p?
I don't understand why Mullvad hasn't added Monero yet, that difference alone makes me want to switch to IVPN.
Whats your opinion on "Perfect Privacy" VPN?
Also the VPN provider has an ISP, does the ISP keep logs? Do they comply with gag orders? ISPs are infrastructure which means they better do anything and everything they are asked of the government. So the answers are yes and yes.
No thats not how it works
@@user-qk8rt9yf9v Why. Think about correlation attacks.
just setup mutlbile servers around the world disable logs in the vpn tools you used to make them and BOOM
I think the most important thing is that my account details with them can’t be connected to my traffic.
I use PIA-VPN because of their no log policy and the fact that I can pay with a gift card from a bunch of different companies that I can buy for cash (target/walmart) there have been several cases where warrants were served but there were no logs to give.
I'm sure the records of those cards go back to the stores you bought them in and they probably have security footage of you buying them.
HERRO WE ARE TRUST WORTH WE KEEP NO LOG
You can host your own VPN if you don't trust VPN providers.
Using VPS or Cloud services?
@@kataja34 Yes
What about OXT (Orchid) VPN? It's a decentralized VPN based on crypto
you could use a amex or visa gift card. it should be fine since they dont ask for an address to verify. might want to buy it somewhere you dont live
How about self hosting an open source VPN like Wireguard on a raspberry pi?
Are there some kinds of "P2P VPN?". I have never seen vpn providers who allows you to connect to their nodes using p2p networks like tor or i2p. I think it should be safe enough to use this vpn despite the fact they log, because it is "impossible" (I think) to find out who was connecting within the p2p network.
Companies trace individual ip addresses from peer to peer networks all the time. It's the reason alot of people use vpns while torrenting.
How about making your own VPN?
As long as VPN dont have any zero-knowledge proof, its not anonymous.
Mullvad is king, though if you want true privacy, you cant sadly
closest thing is tor but since a lot of websites are aware of most exit nodes, its not ideal
in conclusion:
just dont use computer/internet, easy
Aight
homomorphic encryption + certification should do the trick
I am Muta VPN Gang
why doesnt mulvad accept monero
Of course i am gonna send them cash and willingly give them my dna and fingerprints ...
... xDDDDDDD
Is Tor really a mixnet?
how do you pay with cash over the web?
Comment section full of 12 year Olds spamming stupid jokes. Pretty sure this is the end
Isn't sending money via mail illegal?
what about uhm, riseup?
To me Anonymous it's just a buzzword, a meme.
Why? There are ways to be truly anonymous online, like tor and monero
@@Cookiekeks Well, I meant in a corporate sale point, not in truly existing.
You mean pseudonymous?
You can buy debit gift cards
Let's suppose you are running a custom software for your VPN server and it simply does not have the logging capability in it. You never added that in. Can the court or the police order you to write patches to your software so that logs are added as a feature? Basically making you do a slave labor.
I'm not a lawyer but I think If laws allow them too, they can and will. Have you heard about the pirate bay guys? They faced so many raids even despite technically following all their laws. There was also a case where french police were able to deploy tracing malware on a secure phone company completely without the knowledge or consent of the company.
Where is ProtonVPN??? What??
What about mullvad?
Mr. Privacy Privacy Privacy
what about prepaid visa cards?
How about rolling your own VPN using Wireshark or openvpn on some cloud?
You would need to have users, so its not only your IP connecting to it. That would be sus
I tried this on Linode and they just forwarded the DMCA requests to me and threatened to shut down my server if I didn't resolve the issue. What's the point of running your own VPN if you just get DMCA'd on your cloud server?
You would need to identify a cloud host that will take DMCA notices and throw them in the trash.
@@crab_aesthetics I remember reading some countries that ignore dmca so if you host there they are not gonna care
How about ProtonVPN?
Always trust a VPN with a hipster mascot lol
Could you not buy a prepaid credit card?
Typically those have KYC requirements to add funds to the cards.
@@MentalOutlaw A few years ago when I was a kid and I couldn't buy things online myself, I'd get around that by buying these prepaid 'gift card' credit cards that I remember being able to find at every grocery store/pharmacy/place that sold gift cards. They'd have a predetermined value and you'd pay that much + a fee at the counter.
I don't recall ever having to activate them myself, and Visa's website seems to agree with what I remember: (www.visa.ca/en_CA/pay-with-visa/cards/gift-cards.html See the heading "Do I need to activate my Visa Gift card?"). I think the cashier needed to activate them as with most other gift cards.
@@MentalOutlaw
I see we wont be working together.
No regrets Mr Freeman.
get knowledge based
Just build your own VPN kek
bump
I really only use VPNs to get to reddit lol