No no, Jack, you don't understand, this is actually all very clever. The monsters in Silent Hill represent the trauma of the characters. Silent Hill Ascension itself IS the monster, it represents the average Silent Hill fans trauma over the fact that this series is owned by Konami and they just have to helplessly watch as Konami desecrates the mangled corpse of a series that meant so much to so many. It's actually a very clever integration of the brands themes into the very meta of the series, very avant garde.
You know a meta narrative like that could actually be insanely good. You know if a good writer did it. Not like Konami. Honestly I bet Kojima could do it, he loves his 4th wall breaks. Bit of a different story, but Think about the dog ending. What if we took that joke ending to the logical conclusion of ascension. We, the chat, are the dog now, it was us who were controlling the horror the whole time.
Danganronpa V3 actually did this in a pretty nice way. The reveal was pretty good making us realize why everything went back to the previous antagonist, why the cameras were really there, the sudden involvement of the main protagonist from the first game, and the reveal of why it was called V3. The reveal did make people get mixed feelings about the game but I honestly liked it cause it makes you think about what hope and despair really is and if there really is a third option.
@@vivil2533Now i am even sadder that Kojima left PT behind, never realised to its full potential. Maybe that was the REAL STORY behind PT all along. And now we will never know.
The "ten million viewers" thing reminds me of how Capcom based their sales projections for Street Fighter X Tekken by just adding the sales of both franchises together
Except that Telltale allows you to look around, do things, chat to others, put puzzles together along with making choices. Something that would have been neat to see in the Silent Hill universe (if they had good writers and designers to make it happen). Not the case in this "game" and the monetization angle is just gross.
Saddly Konami deleting source codes for older games was a very common practice for game studios at the time For some reason the thought of reselling old games that people love never crossed peoples minds during the ps2 era
@gameman250 Yep, it happened for every square game until Kingdom Hearts. That's why the re-releases of the PS1 games are based off of the PC versions and the SNES games are based off of the GBA versions. 10 also suffered this fate which is why the remasters look different compared to the original versions, a lot of stuff had to be remade from the ground up or from extremely old assets
Fun fact: The CEO of Gevid; Jacob, once begged players on Twitter to spend their money to see this show's sex scene, only to bemoan about how the choice that didn't lead to it won and proceeded to write a long winded post about how this sex scene was revolutionary to television and how they spent all this effort making the nude models for it. The sex scene in question, which he uploaded on his twitter, is five seconds long and off camera save for a single scene of feet rubbing together. This paired with him believing this slop will generate ten million viewers says to me Jacob is completely out of his mind.
Yeah, honestly seems like he's trying build a castle from a thousand glass shards and saying it'll work despite the pieces not fitting together. There's a difference between making a mosaic which can turn out pretty good depending on experience and then there's trying to glue a vase together only to have it come out worse than before. This doesn't even feel like Silent Hill by now, it feels like a No Name Brand series of the games. Especially with the Dark World sections: WTF are even those parts and what do they have to do with Silent Hill? Had it be where the Foundation was trying to find a way into Silent Hill to attempt to meet and summon their God with Toby going after them to save his sister or where Karl goes to the town, having survived it once, after discovering his daughter was passing through that area to visit him to warn them of the danger only to be stuck in the nightmare once more, it could have been interesting. The fact we got this instead is just... it really tells you how much Konami cares about their IP's, alongside the whole battle pass thing. Sorry about the long winded rant by the way, just when I see things like Silent Hill: Ascension and the fact that there's nothing you get from it all in all, it infuriates me as there's some potential for a Silent Hill game that's like a Telltale game or having it be where it messes with your head while you play like having you hear monster noises despite there being no monsters in sight only to be surprised just as you make it to the exit when a whole bunch of them come crashing down from above or up from below.
That's one frig of a quote to take out of context! Makes it sound like the real life country of Norway is such a hell on earth that it's mere existence ruined everything.
It reminds me of some of my favorite Scott the Woz lines and I'm starting to think that specific brand of humor is why I like both of those guys so much. It reminds me of Scott saying things like "Well times three," instead of "well well well," and "And thus, it was torn! It being that, because that tears it."
Look, I can't claim to know Konami nearly as well as many, but it's telling that the only things I really know them for is "the guys that turn all their IPs into gambling machines" and "the subjects of Fuck Konami News". They've fallen off HARD.
@@fernadogonzalez2940 Dude we're literally going through MULTIPLE TIER 0 FORMATS IN A ROW. The latest set of legacy support has a built in FTK. It's the exact opposite, this game has utterly collapsed onto itself like a supernova.
Still can't get over the fact that the story of this..../thing/ was so bad people thought it was being written by AI and the creators had to come out and say it wasn't...which is somehow WORSE than if it HAD been written by AI.
@@naplockblubba5369 It's basically either "rock and a hard place" or "out of the frying pan, into the fire" We're not going to get a good deal from this, because: A: The writer's were laid off, leading to an AI replacement done by people who lack the empathetic nuances of storytelling with the topic at hand. Or B: Either It's all ghostwritten with the credited writers just tossing whatever will stick... and not a single dart hit the board. Or their writing never left the 1st draft.
How do y'all fuck this up. Three ain't got nothing to do with the protagonist. They're two very separate people, heather and alessa. Only 2 was about the protagonist and that was a side venture.
I genuinely wish someone could get an interview with some of the bigest Silent Hill Ascension whales to learn of why did they spend so much in it. Like not even judge them. I just genuinelly wanna know. Its fascinating
I honestly think a number of whales are just mentally unwell, and developers make their games hoping to catch those people, who will compulsively spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on a game.
@@OfftheRadar9790 genuinely that is true-and especially people with impulse control issues (ie adhd, autism, bipolar, etc-i say this from personal experience as someone who struggles with microtransactions and impulse control) the systems are deliberately designed to target them. Its really gross and makes games worse
Reading any interview with gambling addict and changing "strike it big" with "make plot point happen" would most likely clear things up. Tactics to extract money are the same and so result wouldn't be so much different.
"Dude, they've got Philadelphia and Pittsburgh in the same state! What do you think Pyramid Head's gonna do to 'em?" Get his ass handed to him by the combined forces of ECW, Kurt Angle, and Eagles fans.
@@bumblesmcfumbles it didn't have to be like this bumbles. You could've just played an Ancient gears and Trains and turned your brain off for a blissful card game of "I swing with big number and I win sometimes" The gorilla side can still save you
The worst part of all is how all these already horrible characters get *worse*. Eric? Turns out he's the one that caused the mil fire because Toby was drunk. Rachel? She was close to losing the mil so to force people to work for longer hours she would LOCK THEM IN THE MIL, which is why that fire killed so many. Eva? Carl's deceased daughter who was a mass shooter. Astrid? Got pressured by her mother into helping poison Eva, then burning her body. Not to mention their shitty fucking kids becoming Omen ripoffs and killing people left and right while their parents still scream "NOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND! THEY'RE JUST FRIGHTENED! LEAVE MY FAMILY ALONE!!!!" Literally so sad that any of them survived.
Sir you're forgetting the best part, in how Karl ran off with a ghost and abandons his mentally ill daughters to flee the countries cause his dead mistress murdered hospital patients because she felt like it
It was also distracting how when the episodes were put together they kept every fade in and out of black. Nothing felt coherent even with the completed episodes
Yeah and Total drama island didn't resort to microtransactions or other shit like this! Sure it was votes but that was done on their website and you couldn't like mass influence it with cash. (I think, I'm not versed with how that side of the show went.)
"She runs upstairs to go talk to her mom only to find out she's come down with a sudden case of 'being killed by Carl', who could've done this?" Is the funniest shit ever
1:45 wait, silent hill is in MAINE!?! Between that and two thirds of the towns Stephen king writes of, exorcist must be a damn good business to be in around those parts.
If you're going to put a Silent Hill game in Pennsylvania, it should be a crossover with It's Always Sunny. With that cast, I'm not sure if they or the monsters are in more danger.
Credit to you dude for the work on the video in the first 15 minutes. Not rushing yourself towards the talk of the game, but covering well the history of Silent Hill and its downfall (nicely done roller coaster shot) to where we ended up. Great intro for someone like myself who's a bit still new towards the Silent Hill realm. Already can't wait to check out the rest of the video and see where this rabbit hole of Silent Hill Ascension keeps going down to. *insert awkward laughter here* PS - And do keep up the good work on the vids (and fantastic sense of humor, btw). PPS - The utter timing at 52:50 of that child slapping, the father calling out to her in restraint .1 seconds after the hand touches her mother face and Rachel's reaction is the most insane thing I think I've ever seen to come out of something for SILENT HILL.10/10
Honestly with Konami's track record I'm actually shocked that they haven't turned like their franchises Silent Hill Castlevania and Metal Gear Solid into Web 3 crypto games.
Silent Hill Ascension is so terrible that nobody on TH-cam has been making a whole recap and review on the story since it's finished and now I don`t know how this shit ended.
Once again, Konami proves that they are too out of touch with the rest of the industry, but are too proud and (relatively) successful to just back off or try something new.
Are they really out of touch with the industry or with the fans? Because honestly, exchange Silent Hill with Dead Space and Konami with EA and I wouldn't be any more surprised or disappointed. (Because I'm already at rock bottom with my expectations)
@l0rf Except for once EA is better cause the Dead Space remake is good, and they didn't make a weird ass...whayever the hell ascension is. What genre do you even put that in?
@purukumi4957 true, but EA would do this very thing. They tried everything with the Dead Space universe in the first release like several animated specials and spin offs so if they were still focused on it, this looks like how they'd progress post DS3.
@l0rf Totally fair, at least the base 3 games, at their absolute worst are just alright. Though tbf that's the same woth the base 4 Silent Hills, except they're all baller
27:51 Hey, that's York, Pennsylvania! I'm honored to have my city cameo in a Bumbles McFumbles video for two seconds; and I didn't even have to pay exorbitant amounts to do it!
@@wadespencer3623 You know, it's really hard to tell what his prices are because every time I try to ask him he just drags that huge sword along the ground and I can't hear him over all the scraping of cement. He's doing wonders for the city, though: just last week I saw him working in the soup kitchen!
Jesus Christ, I have never heard of this before, this is some of the worst monetization I have ever seen in a "Game". Even Diablo Immortal let you play a game and see numbers go up, This doesn't even do that!
@GribbleGob there were multiple ai streams that featured ai versions of characters like a family guy one that ended because Peter was talking about how to place a bomb in the middle of Washington dc,a Seinfeld onethat ended because the characters were saying racist shit,and a spongebob one.
I never undestood why this had to be a broadcast thing, just make silent hill until dawn and people would have bought that, instead konami was konami and screwed EVERYONE over, does not give me hope for the rest of the silent hill stuff coming
its literally Konami doing what people should have expected them to do lmao why are you so upset? it'd be like being shocked a serial stabber got out on parole and immediately stabbed a guy again
This is the worst that Konami has ever done to Silent Hill. Monetization on a horror game, and make people buy XP points to get an instant win over this full motion show. It's Trauma sticker is just so wrong.
It's such a cool idea, but it sounds like it would be really hard to do well. As much as I love this idea on paper, I think it was doomed from the start.
Check out the Cry of Mann. It was a online web series where viewers could call the characters on the phone and talk directly to them. Some characters legitimately died because the callers couldn't figure out the right hints to give them in time.
I will agree that "Don't stop being a cold-hearted b**** on me now" is a pretty good line. Pretty sure I've heard it in better media before but this thing has to take whatever flowers it can get.
It's literally a quote ripped from The Abyss when an ex husband is giving his former wife CPR because she deliberately drowned in an attempt to save them both.
Okay I laid down with this on because hey migraine and funny essay man help distract brain from agonizing pain. ...then you got into what are basically pay to win pvp narrative experiences and I had to haul my carcass out of bed with my head throbbing to rewind just to make sure I didn't mishear that.
The funny thing is, as dogshit as this idea is, I think I could work with a better moderated chat, better directed media, reworked vote system that doesn't use Influence and a more casual franchise that already has precedent for OCs appearing in the middle of something. In other words...this would work better with Sonic. I'm serious.
"The combat is..." *shows footage of standing in place while firing at the boss you're supposed to run away and not fire back* "fun!" I really hope this was a meta joke, because if it was it's hilarious.
4:23 IIRC, Team Silent cycled most of their members with each installment of the original four games, with only a few recurring names like the art guy and Akira Yamaoka. It kind of explains why each entry feels so different to each other and dispels the myth that team silent is the sole reason why the first games were so great. There are great videos on the topic already floating around TH-cam, lookup "There was no team silent" by thegamingmuse and I think Max Derrat covered the topic on one of his videos.
I would 100% not be surprised if those top buyers weren't real, like they were just fake accounts by Konami in order to make people think they had to spend loads of money to make their choices count.
shattered memories actually made me cry at the end, not from fear (it never felt scary really) but it was emotionally affecting as hell. The realization of what had happened and who we were actually playing as tugged my heartstrings incredibly effectively. It really did an incredible job of keeping the twist held back until it landed and brought it all home, making me really FEEL for poor Cheryl and realize how desperately she had been wanting to believe anything but the truth. Then I immediately played it again, and the second time around I felt for her poor psychiatrist 😂 she just had such a creative and imaginative mind, and he clearly was just over it. So he decided today, he was gonna chase Harry with everything he had, all over this silly made up world, all the way to his office, and that idea is really exciting on its own. I was cheering for him that time, seeing how he was determined to face his white whale and finally bring Harry home, however he could. Maybe not the most professional way to view a problem patient but goddamnit, he was determined to win this time!! I got goosebumps and was unreasonably hyped the second time around, and those are two very different but equally enjoyable vibes to get from a game, heartbreak and triumph. Shattered Memories really had something cool going, I wish that team had been given more chances with the series.
All things aside, a Silent Hill where you play as an Order member and the horrors of being trapped in a cult (almost like...being trapped in a certain town...) COULD be interesting, but this is not the way to do it
this video is the first time i've become aware the two plots are in different locations, literally never got that feeling because of how narrow the world is
Silent Hill 2 is the best selling Silent Hill. I believe SH1 was the best selling in Japan, but overall 2 is the one that sold the most just to clarify.
As someone's actual for real sick wife who was abandoned instead of killed --- check the sociology research; hubby having an affair then abandonment is by far the most likely outcome for a sick wife + healthy husband (most wives stay with their sick partners of either sex; I don't have reliable information on other types of pairings) --- I really loved the story in SH2 even tho it was personally painful for me bc of how close to my reality it hits. Being sick is hard on both people in a relationship. We know we are burdens. Our partners need support too, but esp when you're young, friends + family often vanish for both people bc it's scary to everyone. It's hard not to empathize with the person leaving the burden behind --- of course people want their "old lives" back. Leaving the sick person for the next lover is the false promise of a return to "normal", same as James' impulse to end his "situation" in SH2. So, I loved SH2. It's a masterpiece & they captured the dynamics of that kind of crisis realistically even if Real Life James statistically would've just started an affair & gone from there. So imagine my f-cking delight to find out there's another SH story with EVEN MORE disposable sick wives!!!!! Abusive sick wives who are rabid b-tches towards loved ones 24/7 for no reason but bc sick! I guess that's how us sick wives just are, we're just constantly mean to our people at all times no matter what bc we have no insight or empathy anymore bc sickness!!! Wow, 2 extra dying wives waiting to be murdered for someone else's personal growth! Fun! Absolute hackery. Utter nonsense. Disgusting hogwash. It's really offensive for being a bad SH as well as for the disposable sick mean wives being a RUNNING CANON TROPE now instead of a unique story/character element that hadn't yet been flanderized to parodic depths. Heck, maybe the whole series will just turn into sick-mean-wife + monster murder world.
The berry scene's dialogue was some of the worst I've ever seen. The line writing is bad. The flow of the scene is bad. The internal logic of the characters is bad. Nothing happens, no information is communicated, nothing is started, escalated, ended or changed at all. The only possible use I could see for that scene as an outsider is to establish him as a character so he can die later, which if anything will hit less hard than wandering your property and finding a corpse without context. Literally that character would be more impactful if he was just found dead.
Why is it so hard to be a Silent Hill fan? The first four games are yet to have a rerelease on modern counsels, PT is cancelled, the ones who are currently making Silent Hill games are those who don't get why the games are great (I even have doubts the Silent Hill 2 remake will be faithful to the original as it is made by a company whose previous horror games are mid). I just want to hear some news about Silent Hill that would get me excited and happy instead of going, "This is going to suck, isn't it?"
This is so frustrating because the premise could've made for a great Silent Hill game! Imagine a game about a cabin in Norway where the family inside has cabin fever and ends up in the Otherworld. There would be so many psychological elements they could play with, including the Order making their presence known in some way. And it's all sacrificed on the altar of this fucking stupid techbro attempt to squeeze money out of Silent Hill.
Thanks to Regular Eyepatch Wolf, I got to find out how this thing ended. BTW: You missed nothing of interest. Nearly everything in the first 2/3 of the series is unimportant. Even the orgy is the most inconsequential orgy ever. Carl dates his wife's twin who turns out to be a serial kill, she dies, he leaves town, and is completely written out of the story from there on. After being kidnapped, the kids are returned only now they're all "Bad Seed" and start spouting cult stuff. Xavier is killed, no big loss. Astrid starts dating the cop woman who tried to arrest her earlier and Astrid's former-drug addict sister Brit starts manifesting a second personality that might be physically manifesting, but no one cares. Both towns get hit with "the Withering" and everyone can see the monsters now, which was all part of a plot by a splinter group of the cult manipulating Rachel and Astrid because they're lives are miserable: Astrid's younger sister shot up a school and died (and is the girl Carl was mentoring before he poofed) and Rachel (and Eric, kinda) locked a bunch of people in the mill due to a labor dispute and then the place burned down. Now it's up to Eric/Rachel/Krista on one side and Astrid/Brit/Police lady to save the world. Eric dies thanks to Toby's spirit (yay), Brit merges herself and maybe dies, Astrid & Rachel conquer their fear-manifest monsters, they all live. the kids are okay now kinda, the big evil that collects fingers/keys is thwarted but only for now (until it goes to a decent locksmith). Cue sequel bait. Throughout it all, scenes repeat, characters change their motivations from scene to scene, the animation gets worse, and Kojima clones start popping up as guest characters. It is a train wreck on so many MANY levels. I would ask "what was Konami thinking?" except I remember "Silent Hill Pachinko" and answer my own question. Compiled it might make a good group "drink and riff" night but I'm being generous here. As Silent Hill media: epic fail.
The most confusing part of Book Of Memories was that Wayforward were the ones who made it. How could they go from absolute bangers left and right only to falter that hard despite previously making Contra 4. At least it’s not their worst game ever. That would be Shrek: Ogres & Dronkeys on the DS.
I really, really don't understand who would give a project like this their money. And why, Konami hasn't been worth spending money on in decades. It's a heartless, soulless money grab made by cynical decisions in a board room by people who couldn't care less about or misunderstand the artistic value of their product if you hit them round the head with a dissertation on it etched into a stone tablet.
Man I knew Konami messed up bad with silent hill, but 4 in a row all in the same month flopping. No wonder they gave up on making console games for a decade.
I can say at least one way they're trying to recoup losses. The series is edited into 1 hour - 30 minutes episodes and released for free on Tubi where it can make some ad money. However that's when I thought the thing was done cause it hadn't updated in like 2 months
No no, Jack, you don't understand, this is actually all very clever. The monsters in Silent Hill represent the trauma of the characters. Silent Hill Ascension itself IS the monster, it represents the average Silent Hill fans trauma over the fact that this series is owned by Konami and they just have to helplessly watch as Konami desecrates the mangled corpse of a series that meant so much to so many. It's actually a very clever integration of the brands themes into the very meta of the series, very avant garde.
You know a meta narrative like that could actually be insanely good.
You know if a good writer did it. Not like Konami.
Honestly I bet Kojima could do it, he loves his 4th wall breaks.
Bit of a different story, but Think about the dog ending. What if we took that joke ending to the logical conclusion of ascension.
We, the chat, are the dog now, it was us who were controlling the horror the whole time.
Danganronpa V3 actually did this in a pretty nice way. The reveal was pretty good making us realize why everything went back to the previous antagonist, why the cameras were really there, the sudden involvement of the main protagonist from the first game, and the reveal of why it was called V3. The reveal did make people get mixed feelings about the game but I honestly liked it cause it makes you think about what hope and despair really is and if there really is a third option.
@@vivil2533Now i am even sadder that Kojima left PT behind, never realised to its full potential. Maybe that was the REAL STORY behind PT all along. And now we will never know.
That's why the monster is a large guy with a club hand he represents Konami destroying every beloved franchise they made
You know what they: Don’t mess with Silent Hill fans
No really, don’t. They’ve suffered enough.
The words "silent hill battle pass" melt my soul
How about the "Silent Hill Orgy" thing?
It genuinely feels like an oxymoron
@@flow185fortnite and it's consequences has been a disaster for the gaming industry
stay put for Silent Hill Homecoming: 4-player Coop Shooting
@@YouSoSpiceSilent Hill: Battle Royale
Imagine paying $500 to get the top spot on a bunch of polls only to end up being cast as "guy who sold drugs to one of the protagonist's dead sister"
i think at that point its on you for dumping 500 real dollars into silent hill ascension
The "ten million viewers" thing reminds me of how Capcom based their sales projections for Street Fighter X Tekken by just adding the sales of both franchises together
For me, it's Square Enix threatening to stop localizing mainline Dragon Quest games if DQ Warriors (2?) didn't sell enough copies.
Konami dares to ask the brave question, "what if we create a telltale style game and made it a live service?"
Ew
No. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
stupidity is often confused with bravery
Except that Telltale allows you to look around, do things, chat to others, put puzzles together along with making choices. Something that would have been neat to see in the Silent Hill universe (if they had good writers and designers to make it happen). Not the case in this "game" and the monetization angle is just gross.
Saddly Konami deleting source codes for older games was a very common practice for game studios at the time
For some reason the thought of reselling old games that people love never crossed peoples minds during the ps2 era
I've heard this was the case with Kingdom Hearts, apparently.
@@gameman250 Yup and apparently Capcom too
@gameman250 Yep, it happened for every square game until Kingdom Hearts. That's why the re-releases of the PS1 games are based off of the PC versions and the SNES games are based off of the GBA versions. 10 also suffered this fate which is why the remasters look different compared to the original versions, a lot of stuff had to be remade from the ground up or from extremely old assets
Fun fact: The CEO of Gevid; Jacob, once begged players on Twitter to spend their money to see this show's sex scene, only to bemoan about how the choice that didn't lead to it won and proceeded to write a long winded post about how this sex scene was revolutionary to television and how they spent all this effort making the nude models for it.
The sex scene in question, which he uploaded on his twitter, is five seconds long and off camera save for a single scene of feet rubbing together.
This paired with him believing this slop will generate ten million viewers says to me Jacob is completely out of his mind.
Oh my god that is just pathetic!
Yeah, honestly seems like he's trying build a castle from a thousand glass shards and saying it'll work despite the pieces not fitting together. There's a difference between making a mosaic which can turn out pretty good depending on experience and then there's trying to glue a vase together only to have it come out worse than before. This doesn't even feel like Silent Hill by now, it feels like a No Name Brand series of the games. Especially with the Dark World sections: WTF are even those parts and what do they have to do with Silent Hill?
Had it be where the Foundation was trying to find a way into Silent Hill to attempt to meet and summon their God with Toby going after them to save his sister or where Karl goes to the town, having survived it once, after discovering his daughter was passing through that area to visit him to warn them of the danger only to be stuck in the nightmare once more, it could have been interesting. The fact we got this instead is just... it really tells you how much Konami cares about their IP's, alongside the whole battle pass thing.
Sorry about the long winded rant by the way, just when I see things like Silent Hill: Ascension and the fact that there's nothing you get from it all in all, it infuriates me as there's some potential for a Silent Hill game that's like a Telltale game or having it be where it messes with your head while you play like having you hear monster noises despite there being no monsters in sight only to be surprised just as you make it to the exit when a whole bunch of them come crashing down from above or up from below.
This is not a fun fact and you should be ashamed to tell others of this eldritch knowledge. What a terrible day to have eyes.
Has bro not seen Titanic?
Can someone please post a link to any of these comments, I really want to read them.
She ascends on my hill till I’m silent
She pyramid my head till i mannequin
Incorrect buzzer sfx
You will not see past the gates of heaven
@@kettle680She silents my ascensions till I hill
She silent on my ascend till I hill
"The worst parts of Norway have infected the whole show"
I love that sentence
That's one frig of a quote to take out of context! Makes it sound like the real life country of Norway is such a hell on earth that it's mere existence ruined everything.
Every time I see the "It's Trauma!" sticker from Ascension, I keep thinking that they missed a golden scumbag opportunity to partner with BetterHelp.
everyday im glad they didnt do this
"If there was an up, they'd fuck it" is such a beautiful line.
It reminds me of some of my favorite Scott the Woz lines and I'm starting to think that specific brand of humor is why I like both of those guys so much. It reminds me of Scott saying things like "Well times three," instead of "well well well," and "And thus, it was torn! It being that, because that tears it."
for hypersexual societal diseases, yea
Ong, Jack has a masterful way with words
Fun fact! The place "Stilledalen" in the Norway section translates to "Silent valley" and does not exist. Real creative guys.
They couldn't even get the HILL right. 😂
You don’t understand the SpongeBob porn was REQUIRED for the series to continue, it’s like the coconut JPEG in the TF2 files
The coconut JPEG theory that was debunked? Its used in a taunt effect and does not crash the game when removed.
22:30
So they've effectively turned a Choose Your Own Adventure format into a goddamn Goodwill Auction. Sasuga, Konami.
Toby deserves the honor of reincarnating as a professional wrestler and joining the Bumbles McRumbles
52:55 Gotta love the very natural way that she leans in just close enough for the kid to slap her, very convincing
Look, I can't claim to know Konami nearly as well as many, but it's telling that the only things I really know them for is "the guys that turn all their IPs into gambling machines" and "the subjects of Fuck Konami News". They've fallen off HARD.
Konami is Konami, and Konami is the worst.
@@l0rf at least yu gi oh is the most playable it has been since 2014
Another James Stephanie Sterling enjoyer in the wild? Absolutely based.
@@fernadogonzalez2940now if they'd just balance it properly and not have people wanna brain themselves for playing it!
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Dude we're literally going through MULTIPLE TIER 0 FORMATS IN A ROW. The latest set of legacy support has a built in FTK.
It's the exact opposite, this game has utterly collapsed onto itself like a supernova.
The fact that I heard nothing about the actual game but I have heard about how the chat would censor kojima’s name says something.
Woah, woah, woah! Come on, friend. At least have the decency to censor such a harmful slur!
Still can't get over the fact that the story of this..../thing/ was so bad people thought it was being written by AI and the creators had to come out and say it wasn't...which is somehow WORSE than if it HAD been written by AI.
I mean, people accuse literally anything with bad writing of being "written by AI" nowadays
@@naplockblubba5369could be worse, you could be the groups of writers deemed actually worse than the worst regurgitated AI garbage
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It's basically either "rock and a hard place" or "out of the frying pan, into the fire"
We're not going to get a good deal from this, because:
A: The writer's were laid off, leading to an AI replacement done by people who lack the empathetic nuances of storytelling with the topic at hand.
Or B: Either It's all ghostwritten with the credited writers just tossing whatever will stick... and not a single dart hit the board. Or their writing never left the 1st draft.
Silent hill was quite literally the embodiment of psychological horror. It was horror that revolved around the protagonist psychology
In 1 and 3 the horror was real, The entire town was being corrupted by Alessia's influence.
@@gagejohnathan9641Which was informed by her (and by extension Heather’s) psychology.
How do y'all fuck this up. Three ain't got nothing to do with the protagonist. They're two very separate people, heather and alessa. Only 2 was about the protagonist and that was a side venture.
I genuinely wish someone could get an interview with some of the bigest Silent Hill Ascension whales to learn of why did they spend so much in it.
Like not even judge them. I just genuinelly wanna know. Its fascinating
Sunken cost fallacy.
I honestly think a number of whales are just mentally unwell, and developers make their games hoping to catch those people, who will compulsively spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on a game.
@@OfftheRadar9790 genuinely that is true-and especially people with impulse control issues (ie adhd, autism, bipolar, etc-i say this from personal experience as someone who struggles with microtransactions and impulse control) the systems are deliberately designed to target them. Its really gross and makes games worse
Reading any interview with gambling addict and changing "strike it big" with "make plot point happen" would most likely clear things up.
Tactics to extract money are the same and so result wouldn't be so much different.
People will pay to feel important. Even in a small pond like Ascension
"Dude, they've got Philadelphia and Pittsburgh in the same state! What do you think Pyramid Head's gonna do to 'em?"
Get his ass handed to him by the combined forces of ECW, Kurt Angle, and Eagles fans.
turn pyramid head into a robot, send him to philly and history repeats itself
Perc Angle could solo Pyramid Head
Crack heads and hill billies teaming up to kill a eldritch entity
They’re gonna do him like hitchbot.
@@GreenEyedPsycho Not poor Hitchbot 💀💀
Alright, i gotta stop, from one pendulum lover to another who hurt you to want to learn an endymion combo?
I was born like this
She was a Gunshot Bride
@@bumblesmcfumbles it didn't have to be like this bumbles. You could've just played an Ancient gears and Trains and turned your brain off for a blissful card game of "I swing with big number and I win sometimes"
The gorilla side can still save you
at least it isn't vaylantz
Endymion was better when it was pure spell counters. Spell Power Grasp.
The worst part of all is how all these already horrible characters get *worse*. Eric? Turns out he's the one that caused the mil fire because Toby was drunk. Rachel? She was close to losing the mil so to force people to work for longer hours she would LOCK THEM IN THE MIL, which is why that fire killed so many. Eva? Carl's deceased daughter who was a mass shooter. Astrid? Got pressured by her mother into helping poison Eva, then burning her body. Not to mention their shitty fucking kids becoming Omen ripoffs and killing people left and right while their parents still scream "NOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND! THEY'RE JUST FRIGHTENED! LEAVE MY FAMILY ALONE!!!!"
Literally so sad that any of them survived.
Sir you're forgetting the best part, in how Karl ran off with a ghost and abandons his mentally ill daughters to flee the countries cause his dead mistress murdered hospital patients because she felt like it
sad how everyone but the little two children and Toby isn't terrible people,
I mean, they're getting Silent Hilled. They SHOULD be terrible people. Just that normally that would be better handled.
FIVE MINUTES???? How the hell is ANYONE supposed to get attached to any character when they only get to see them in five minute bursts?
It was also distracting how when the episodes were put together they kept every fade in and out of black. Nothing felt coherent even with the completed episodes
This feels a lot like a video game soap opera
So we all agree this is just a worse version of what Total Drama Island did, right?
Yeah and Total drama island didn't resort to microtransactions or other shit like this! Sure it was votes but that was done on their website and you couldn't like mass influence it with cash. (I think, I'm not versed with how that side of the show went.)
"She runs upstairs to go talk to her mom only to find out she's come down with a sudden case of 'being killed by Carl', who could've done this?" Is the funniest shit ever
I wasn’t expecting this.
Jack, I’m so sorry you had to go through this.
1:45 wait, silent hill is in MAINE!?! Between that and two thirds of the towns Stephen king writes of, exorcist must be a damn good business to be in around those parts.
If you're going to put a Silent Hill game in Pennsylvania, it should be a crossover with It's Always Sunny. With that cast, I'm not sure if they or the monsters are in more danger.
yes
Silent Hill looking at the brains of the IASIP guys: "Wow...Even for me, this is...Depraved."
Frank: What are yall runnin for? They look harmless. Look at that guy with the triangle for a head!
Credit to you dude for the work on the video in the first 15 minutes. Not rushing yourself towards the talk of the game, but covering well the history of Silent Hill and its downfall (nicely done roller coaster shot) to where we ended up. Great intro for someone like myself who's a bit still new towards the Silent Hill realm. Already can't wait to check out the rest of the video and see where this rabbit hole of Silent Hill Ascension keeps going down to. *insert awkward laughter here*
PS - And do keep up the good work on the vids (and fantastic sense of humor, btw).
PPS - The utter timing at 52:50 of that child slapping, the father calling out to her in restraint .1 seconds after the hand touches her mother face and Rachel's reaction is the most insane thing I think I've ever seen to come out of something for SILENT HILL.10/10
Imagine if everyone united to fail at the quick time events just to kill off every important character and end the show sooner.
Oh Bumbles, you silly filly, I know the entire Spongebob Movie Script by heart
Coulda been worse. Coulda been Silent Hill Rogue Corps.
So a third person shooter?
I smell a sequel video~
Maybe we'll get lucky and get a Yu-Gi-Oh video too.
Please don't give them any more ideas
Would be more interesting than Ascension is
Honestly with Konami's track record I'm actually shocked that they haven't turned like their franchises Silent Hill Castlevania and Metal Gear Solid into Web 3 crypto games.
Silent Hill Ascension is so terrible that nobody on TH-cam has been making a whole recap and review on the story since it's finished and now I don`t know how this shit ended.
@@catherinepospelova6744 i will
@@bumblesmcfumbles thank God, we will remember your sacrifice.
Once again, Konami proves that they are too out of touch with the rest of the industry, but are too proud and (relatively) successful to just back off or try something new.
Are they really out of touch with the industry or with the fans? Because honestly, exchange Silent Hill with Dead Space and Konami with EA and I wouldn't be any more surprised or disappointed. (Because I'm already at rock bottom with my expectations)
@l0rf Except for once EA is better cause the Dead Space remake is good, and they didn't make a weird ass...whayever the hell ascension is. What genre do you even put that in?
@purukumi4957 true, but EA would do this very thing. They tried everything with the Dead Space universe in the first release like several animated specials and spin offs so if they were still focused on it, this looks like how they'd progress post DS3.
@l0rf Totally fair, at least the base 3 games, at their absolute worst are just alright. Though tbf that's the same woth the base 4 Silent Hills, except they're all baller
27:51 Hey, that's York, Pennsylvania! I'm honored to have my city cameo in a Bumbles McFumbles video for two seconds; and I didn't even have to pay exorbitant amounts to do it!
Do you guys have pyramid head there?
How much do we normally have to pay him for a city cameo?
@@wadespencer3623 You know, it's really hard to tell what his prices are because every time I try to ask him he just drags that huge sword along the ground and I can't hear him over all the scraping of cement. He's doing wonders for the city, though: just last week I saw him working in the soup kitchen!
Silent Hills cancelation sent a goddamn shockwave across the gaming community.
the yu gi oh transition cards aren't just scrambled haphazardly anymore
he's evolving
When the hills are silent idk I never played the series
Thank you for the feast, Bumbles McFumbles.
There’s always a spot open for you on my crew.
Punch Out appearance and Metal Gear Rising appearance hell yeah
Jesus Christ, I have never heard of this before, this is some of the worst monetization I have ever seen in a "Game". Even Diablo Immortal let you play a game and see numbers go up, This doesn't even do that!
I wasn't the biggest fan of Perc Angle's "YEAH!", but I loved how it was used here.
Jack saying the K-word implies that he's able to reclaim it. I've found you Hideo Kojima, WHERES ANOTHER DEATH STRANDING 2 TRAILER
People think AI made this, but AI would probably do better.
The fact that silent Hill ascension is worse than that ai spongebob stream will forever be the funniest shit ever.
@@thegentelmen8984What?
I don't know this Al person, but he sounds a-okay to me!
@GribbleGob there were multiple ai streams that featured ai versions of characters like a family guy one that ended because Peter was talking about how to place a bomb in the middle of Washington dc,a Seinfeld onethat ended because the characters were saying racist shit,and a spongebob one.
I never undestood why this had to be a broadcast thing, just make silent hill until dawn and people would have bought that, instead konami was konami and screwed EVERYONE over, does not give me hope for the rest of the silent hill stuff coming
its literally Konami doing what people should have expected them to do lmao why are you so upset? it'd be like being shocked a serial stabber got out on parole and immediately stabbed a guy again
Right next to "suspiciously wealthy furries" is "suspiciously wealthy mobile gamers"
At least the furries support artists and give the world art of varying quality.
The mobile gamers only spread cancer.
Another video, so soon after Games You Can't Buy Anymore 3?! You're spoiling us, Jack!
It sucked because a silent Hill choose your own adventure story could be awesome with competent hands.
She Silent on my Hill till I Ascend?
She ascend on my hill till I’m silent?
**Incorrect Buzzer**
This is the worst that Konami has ever done to Silent Hill. Monetization on a horror game, and make people buy XP points to get an instant win over this full motion show. It's Trauma sticker is just so wrong.
I really appreciate the little cassette tapes you put in showing the music its so nice
I love the idea of an interactive tv show where the series is affected by viewers so I'm sad this game had to mess it all up
It's such a cool idea, but it sounds like it would be really hard to do well. As much as I love this idea on paper, I think it was doomed from the start.
Check out the Cry of Mann. It was a online web series where viewers could call the characters on the phone and talk directly to them. Some characters legitimately died because the callers couldn't figure out the right hints to give them in time.
I think that with every game that came after it, we can all agree that we were much too hard on Silent Hill 4.
There is a It's Trauma T-shirt, we could have had Silent Hills but instead we have this
I will agree that "Don't stop being a cold-hearted b**** on me now" is a pretty good line. Pretty sure I've heard it in better media before but this thing has to take whatever flowers it can get.
It's literally a quote ripped from The Abyss when an ex husband is giving his former wife CPR because she deliberately drowned in an attempt to save them both.
What in *god’s name* do you mean Silent Hill Ascension just won an EMMY AWARD.
Silent Hill 4 actually had the best atmosphere of the first Silent Hill games despite it's gameplay suffering, and I will die on this hill.
Oh, new card transition? It looks nice!
If Konami was told to walk down the street in a straight line. They'd be running into the nearest wall.
Okay I laid down with this on because hey migraine and funny essay man help distract brain from agonizing pain.
...then you got into what are basically pay to win pvp narrative experiences and I had to haul my carcass out of bed with my head throbbing to rewind just to make sure I didn't mishear that.
Showing the Thrillville shooter minigame inflicted psychic damage
The funny thing is, as dogshit as this idea is, I think I could work with a better moderated chat, better directed media, reworked vote system that doesn't use Influence and a more casual franchise that already has precedent for OCs appearing in the middle of something. In other words...this would work better with Sonic. I'm serious.
Can’t believe they killed off the only two good characters that helped make a show about nothing feel like something.
(That’s Toby and Jam guy)
"The combat is..." *shows footage of standing in place while firing at the boss you're supposed to run away and not fire back* "fun!" I really hope this was a meta joke, because if it was it's hilarious.
I guess you can say they Bumbles McFumbled it (I am then shot by police for crimes against my country)
If I made videos in 2011 you can damn sure bet I would have said that about bad games. Jaws Unleashed would have gotten the McFumbled rating
There's still time.... it's never too late@@bumblesmcfumbles
I'm surprised you didn't mention Matt's famous axe throw
4:23 IIRC, Team Silent cycled most of their members with each installment of the original four games, with only a few recurring names like the art guy and Akira Yamaoka.
It kind of explains why each entry feels so different to each other and dispels the myth that team silent is the sole reason why the first games were so great.
There are great videos on the topic already floating around TH-cam, lookup "There was no team silent" by thegamingmuse and I think Max Derrat covered the topic on one of his videos.
22:54 I can't believe that Yubel was wasting Jaden's money on this shit
0:28 oh hey look the first video game I ever played...that game was the first step into becoming a game designer
A new video already? What a welcome surprise!
I would 100% not be surprised if those top buyers weren't real, like they were just fake accounts by Konami in order to make people think they had to spend loads of money to make their choices count.
Yeah since for even a show like this, even the usual whales know when something is so shit that it ain't worth any money to put in.
shattered memories actually made me cry at the end, not from fear (it never felt scary really) but it was emotionally affecting as hell. The realization of what had happened and who we were actually playing as tugged my heartstrings incredibly effectively. It really did an incredible job of keeping the twist held back until it landed and brought it all home, making me really FEEL for poor Cheryl and realize how desperately she had been wanting to believe anything but the truth.
Then I immediately played it again, and the second time around I felt for her poor psychiatrist 😂 she just had such a creative and imaginative mind, and he clearly was just over it. So he decided today, he was gonna chase Harry with everything he had, all over this silly made up world, all the way to his office, and that idea is really exciting on its own. I was cheering for him that time, seeing how he was determined to face his white whale and finally bring Harry home, however he could. Maybe not the most professional way to view a problem patient but goddamnit, he was determined to win this time!! I got goosebumps and was unreasonably hyped the second time around, and those are two very different but equally enjoyable vibes to get from a game, heartbreak and triumph.
Shattered Memories really had something cool going, I wish that team had been given more chances with the series.
Imagine if they let chat decide the number of sides to the polygon encasing Mr. Pyramid’s head
All things aside, a Silent Hill where you play as an Order member and the horrors of being trapped in a cult (almost like...being trapped in a certain town...) COULD be interesting, but this is not the way to do it
Then again thats just Devotion, we should all just play Devotion
Silent Hill? More like Loud Valley.
Gotta love when the roots of something's problems can be tied to the monetization.
this video is the first time i've become aware the two plots are in different locations, literally never got that feeling because of how narrow the world is
I watched a sleeping homeless person roll over on the metro train floor and was less bored watching that than I was watching the show.
Silent Hill 2 is the best selling Silent Hill. I believe SH1 was the best selling in Japan, but overall 2 is the one that sold the most just to clarify.
Not sure if that can be legaly said when Silent Hill revelations exists .
As someone's actual for real sick wife who was abandoned instead of killed --- check the sociology research; hubby having an affair then abandonment is by far the most likely outcome for a sick wife + healthy husband (most wives stay with their sick partners of either sex; I don't have reliable information on other types of pairings) --- I really loved the story in SH2 even tho it was personally painful for me bc of how close to my reality it hits. Being sick is hard on both people in a relationship. We know we are burdens. Our partners need support too, but esp when you're young, friends + family often vanish for both people bc it's scary to everyone. It's hard not to empathize with the person leaving the burden behind --- of course people want their "old lives" back. Leaving the sick person for the next lover is the false promise of a return to "normal", same as James' impulse to end his "situation" in SH2. So, I loved SH2. It's a masterpiece & they captured the dynamics of that kind of crisis realistically even if Real Life James statistically would've just started an affair & gone from there.
So imagine my f-cking delight to find out there's another SH story with EVEN MORE disposable sick wives!!!!! Abusive sick wives who are rabid b-tches towards loved ones 24/7 for no reason but bc sick! I guess that's how us sick wives just are, we're just constantly mean to our people at all times no matter what bc we have no insight or empathy anymore bc sickness!!! Wow, 2 extra dying wives waiting to be murdered for someone else's personal growth! Fun!
Absolute hackery. Utter nonsense. Disgusting hogwash. It's really offensive for being a bad SH as well as for the disposable sick mean wives being a RUNNING CANON TROPE now instead of a unique story/character element that hadn't yet been flanderized to parodic depths. Heck, maybe the whole series will just turn into sick-mean-wife + monster murder world.
Silent Hill 4 is a game about being stuck in your apartment.
It was before its time.
The berry scene's dialogue was some of the worst I've ever seen. The line writing is bad. The flow of the scene is bad. The internal logic of the characters is bad. Nothing happens, no information is communicated, nothing is started, escalated, ended or changed at all. The only possible use I could see for that scene as an outsider is to establish him as a character so he can die later, which if anything will hit less hard than wandering your property and finding a corpse without context. Literally that character would be more impactful if he was just found dead.
Downpour reviewed poorly?
I thought it reviewed pour-ly.
Sorry.
Why is it so hard to be a Silent Hill fan? The first four games are yet to have a rerelease on modern counsels, PT is cancelled, the ones who are currently making Silent Hill games are those who don't get why the games are great (I even have doubts the Silent Hill 2 remake will be faithful to the original as it is made by a company whose previous horror games are mid).
I just want to hear some news about Silent Hill that would get me excited and happy instead of going, "This is going to suck, isn't it?"
This is so frustrating because the premise could've made for a great Silent Hill game! Imagine a game about a cabin in Norway where the family inside has cabin fever and ends up in the Otherworld. There would be so many psychological elements they could play with, including the Order making their presence known in some way.
And it's all sacrificed on the altar of this fucking stupid techbro attempt to squeeze money out of Silent Hill.
Thanks to Regular Eyepatch Wolf, I got to find out how this thing ended.
BTW: You missed nothing of interest.
Nearly everything in the first 2/3 of the series is unimportant. Even the orgy is the most inconsequential orgy ever. Carl dates his wife's twin who turns out to be a serial kill, she dies, he leaves town, and is completely written out of the story from there on. After being kidnapped, the kids are returned only now they're all "Bad Seed" and start spouting cult stuff. Xavier is killed, no big loss. Astrid starts dating the cop woman who tried to arrest her earlier and Astrid's former-drug addict sister Brit starts manifesting a second personality that might be physically manifesting, but no one cares. Both towns get hit with "the Withering" and everyone can see the monsters now, which was all part of a plot by a splinter group of the cult manipulating Rachel and Astrid because they're lives are miserable: Astrid's younger sister shot up a school and died (and is the girl Carl was mentoring before he poofed) and Rachel (and Eric, kinda) locked a bunch of people in the mill due to a labor dispute and then the place burned down. Now it's up to Eric/Rachel/Krista on one side and Astrid/Brit/Police lady to save the world. Eric dies thanks to Toby's spirit (yay), Brit merges herself and maybe dies, Astrid & Rachel conquer their fear-manifest monsters, they all live. the kids are okay now kinda, the big evil that collects fingers/keys is thwarted but only for now (until it goes to a decent locksmith). Cue sequel bait.
Throughout it all, scenes repeat, characters change their motivations from scene to scene, the animation gets worse, and Kojima clones start popping up as guest characters. It is a train wreck on so many MANY levels. I would ask "what was Konami thinking?" except I remember "Silent Hill Pachinko" and answer my own question. Compiled it might make a good group "drink and riff" night but I'm being generous here. As Silent Hill media: epic fail.
Each episode was only five minutes, eh?
Looks like Silent Hill Ascension is the Chargeman Ken of gaming.
it would've been more cultural impacting if they just made a netflix silent hill tv show bruh
The most confusing part of Book Of Memories was that Wayforward were the ones who made it. How could they go from absolute bangers left and right only to falter that hard despite previously making Contra 4. At least it’s not their worst game ever. That would be Shrek: Ogres & Dronkeys on the DS.
Another video so soon I needed to check the date because I thought it might be April first this just became a great day
I wonder how the eventually Hades video is going
It's a long game lmao even just to see "most" of the content
I really, really don't understand who would give a project like this their money. And why, Konami hasn't been worth spending money on in decades. It's a heartless, soulless money grab made by cynical decisions in a board room by people who couldn't care less about or misunderstand the artistic value of their product if you hit them round the head with a dissertation on it etched into a stone tablet.
"the worst parts of norway have infected the entire show" is amazing out of context
Man I knew Konami messed up bad with silent hill, but 4 in a row all in the same month flopping. No wonder they gave up on making console games for a decade.
I can say at least one way they're trying to recoup losses. The series is edited into 1 hour - 30 minutes episodes and released for free on Tubi where it can make some ad money. However that's when I thought the thing was done cause it hadn't updated in like 2 months
Yea some stuff hit break time at one point but hea
Pyramid head is a manifestation of james' guilt over killing his wife, not a symbolisation of his sexual frustration.
Dude got Pyramid Head confused with the Nurses.
Bumbles saying Silent Hill Ascension is just a shittier version of Twitch Plays Pokemon opened my third eye.