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How to make Belt Sander or Grinder Belts for the Matthias Wandel 6x48 Belt Sander
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2018
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This is my method for making Belts for my Belt Sander. I made the Sander from the plans that Matthias Wandel sells. The Machine has been in daily use for over a year and it is a fantastic Tool.
I tried making belts using the popular method of overlapping the joint, but I found that it jumped on the Rollers of the Sander and struck the Work Piece, sometimes breaking at the joint. For me, it was uncomfortable and unreliable.
My method uses a straight joint with a tight weave material holding the joint using Contact Adhesive, then a small amount of 2 part Epoxy the add strength to the edges of any meeting surfaces.
I have never had a Belt break at the joint line in over a year of use. If a Belt breaks it is always in another place and usually after it is well worn out anyway.
I like the idea of making my own Tools, especially if it is a Tool that is not easily found or readily available. Handmade Tools give great satisfaction and for me. It is fun knowing that I created something to help me better improve my woodworking experience.
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Brilliant video, no bla bla bla no sweet talks, by reading the subtitles was really helpful you missed it simply pause the video.
Thank you sir for your techniques .
Thank you my friend 😊 ॐ
Thanks again Matthias. Love the band saw I made using your plans and this looks worth trying too. Saw an other idea here on TH-cam using denim iron-on patches I’m also going to try. I’ve made a small, 6”x by 29” belt sander using a gear reduction motor (0 - 350 rpm’s) I’ve had laying around, to replace a 9” disc sander for end grain sanding. Didn’t think about belt size till to late in the build. Would like to make another, slightly smaller one to get the belts below 24” so I can get 2 dyi belts out of one 6”x 48”.
Matthias wandel is a brilliant man and I really enjoy his videos
I have built a few of his tools from plans I bought from him and they work great :) ॐ
Put a back strip on your jig , to alignnthe edges with a gap for your clamp, ,I have reservations about the contact Adhesive holding when it gets hot, .
I started making belts 35 years ago,by hand , smallest I made was 3/8 × 13 inches.
The largest 6inches by 33 feet.
I suggestbyou look into a 2 part rubber bond adhesive, and rough up the belt backing with 60 grit paper before you glue up , it will give better adhesion, also a rub over the grit side along the join edges with a dry oil stone will minimize any bump there
Thank you for the tips Jeffrey :) ॐ
Jeffrey Lord , can you supply a link to the rubber bonding adhesive your talking about? I would appreciate it. Tom
I have to say you do have patience to take on something like that. I choose to simply buy it already made. I think its too much work for the savings in $$ but you do get the satisfaction of knowing you made it. Similar to being able to say you made the actual belt sander as I am doing now. Good Job!
Thank you Guy :) I live in Eastern Central Europe. There is no option of buying Belts here. I can find long length of Sandpaper and that is why I needed to begin making these. Great news that you are making your own Belt Sander. Matthias's plans are superb and if that is the one you are making, you will find it so useful :) ॐ
I am not using Mathias's plan although I have seen it and many other of his videos. I am kinda using another guys plan with a few changes. I am using an old pool water pump motor with tons of power. (1.5 HP and a built in frame) so I decided to go with 12" disc and 6" x 48" belt. The disc part is 70% complete and I am actually enjoying the process very much. Thank for the reply and if I ever end up over the pond, I will bring you a bunch of belt sand paper. LOL! I am from Canada. The Province of New Brunswick and we do have access to belt sand paper. Good thing because I don't think I would have your patience. Take Care!
That sounds great Guy :) I would love to see the finished sander :)
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Thank you, for your video. To show it, and share your experiences.
I want to use it, to make some sander belts for my neighbour.
He has an old and good running machine, but no One makes and sells his size of belts. (50 x 694 mm.)
Greetings from sw germany (middle europe) liked + subscribed.
Thank you 😊 ॐ
Impressive Sir! I appreciate this very much! Great job!
Thank you my friend 😊 ॐ
great Mathias I love the work you do. thank you.
Thank you Mauricio :)
I guess this technique would work for any length of belt - I'll have to give it a try. Thanks mate!
Thank you Mark :) It should work. I will need to make them for the 2"x72" belt grinder I want to build as I've had no success finding any at all.
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Very thorough, nice work.
Thank you Matthew :) ॐ
What kind of glue do you use
Good job done. Thanks.
Thank you :) ॐ
WOW Thanks again.
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Thank you :) ॐ
Great technique Yogi! I didn't know you could buy sandpaper in that big of a roll, or did I miss read the video!
Opa's Workshop yep u can even get bigger rolls again if u got the spare money laying around
Thank you Opa :) Yes I can buy 1.5 meter wide up to 20 meters long. The roll I have in the video is 10cm wide and is bought by the meter :)
the white is a piece of cloth? is the joint hard from the glue,or is it a flexible adesive? i have tried a lot,but many brake or... the workpiece get bumps from the hard lapping. 😐
Hi Jörgen :) Yes it's cloth, just thin, but tight Cotton. I tried so many ways also. The contact adhesive is flexible but strong. I have sanded metal and plastic, but not a huge amount and the belts still hold up OK at the joint. I made them first with an angled joint, but I found no extra benefit after I made straight joints :) I can only suggest you to try one and see how it works out for you. I think a belt costs me about 3 Euros to make, but I can't buy them anyway 😁
Use thin close weave material? Such as a Tee shirt? Silk?
I use a none stretch / elastic cotton. the last lot I made were from salvaged lining material from a large bag and they worked out great. Since making this video, I tried an angled joint and it was not as good, so I went back to this method and the belt I have on now has been on for a long time and seems indestructible. I will replace it soon as it will run out of grit before it breaks. With the current belt I used CA glue only as I had run out of contact cement. I had avoided using CA glue because I read in the past that someone had tried and failed or it had been suggested, but it is working really well for me. CA glue could be a good option to try also 😊 ॐ
Wot king of glue
Hey mate I have copied your process and only have failures can you give any suggestions
Hello David :) Do you have any idea what might not be working for you. I have not had a failure yet. I made a load of belts up about 3 months ago and I wear the grit off them before changing and they all remain intact. Let me know what is happening and what materials you are sanding please ॐ
Speed of belt and tension which causes friction and heat build up which loosens the contact cement causing catastrophic failure !!
whats the name of contact adhesive?
Nice
Thank you :) ॐ
where did you purchase the sandpaper, can you post a link please
Thanks,,
Gabe
Hi Gabe :) I buy it locally. I live in Eastern Central Europe.
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Thank you for the idea. I was thinking of using the overlap method to make my sanding belt, but based on your experience, I think it's better to do it your way.
One question: What is your opinion about using a thin coat of the two-part epoxy for the complete job? Contact cement is not available where I live.
Thank you Bala :) I will try and make a belt up using two-part epoxy for the complete job and let you know how it works. It won't be as flexible as the contact adhesive, but it might work :)
Thank you.
Where can I find that metal detector??
I bought it locally, but if you search for Metal Voltage Detector you should find one similar :) ॐ
can I use glu for wood?
Yes :)
thank you
Raffiniert! Wäre es nicht besser, das Sandpapier schräg anzuschneiden?
Hello Rudolf :) I did make the joints on an angle initially before I tried it this way. The extra steps of calculating and joining at an angle did not give any better results. I have still not had a belt fail using the method in this video. They wear down over time and I replace them after that only :) You will need to try it both ways to see what works best for you ॐ
I guess if you were explaining what you were doing it might be better
Hello David :) I might make an updated version as I have simplified the process a lot since :) ॐ