Hey Kyle and thanks for the comment. I ended up with over 70 videos on my channel on my Jeep build!! Never thought it would go that far but it is a slippery slope for sure. I will tell you one of the upgrades I wish I had done first was replacing my old worn out seats. What a difference in ride quality and your desire to jump in the Jeep and go. Worth every penny and looking back, I would have done that as one of my first upgrades. Glad you are enjoying the videos...look for my next update coming out in a few days where I'll be giving away some Jeep parts. JD.
Great job JD. Yesterday I ripped the carpeting out of my Jeep (why do they put carpeting in Jeeps?) I mean this stuff was glued down. And as you can imagine, rusted floor boards. I think the passenger side is salvageable, but the drivers side looks to be shot. Plus as you had, dozens of smaller drilled holes that who knows what were for, shotgun blast is a great description. Rear panels look pretty good. I do not own a welder or know how to weld. So I gotta see about getting the work done. But if I must do it myself, you've given me some good ideas. Thanks Jim
I didn’t own a welder or know how to weld either. One estimate from a body shop inspired me to learn! Not as bad as you think and a great tool to have. I saved a lot of money doing it myself. Give it some thought Jim. I think I got my mig welder for around $500 and the quote for my Jeep was over $3k from the body shop. That was just for the floor panels that I replaced. I’ve now used my welder extensively and love to weld!! Awesome tool (and I’m still no expert at it).
JD Offline Hi JD, I have another welding question. Was your gas tank out of the Jeep when you welded in the floor panels? My drivers side is definitely shot and the passenger side could probably stand to be replaced also. Don't want to blow myself up, I'm too old to look that foolish. ( shows how little I know). Jim
Jim yes it was out of the Jeep for safety (that parts in the first video). You can do it w the gas tank in according to the body shop I went to but I didn’t feel that was safe. I ended up having to replace my gas tank as once I took it down and removed the skid plate it was all rusted out. Thanks for the question Jim. Sounds like you have a project Jeep similar to mine!!
JD Offline It's a bit of a project. Surprisingly the frame is in very good condition. Spent the last two days on my back looking up at mostly surface rust and some type of undercoating that just flakes off. Of course by the time I get on safety equipment ( glasses, face shield, respirator) everything fogs up so I can't see anything. Oh well, they never said it was gonna be easy!!! Thanks Jim
Hey Ron, I think for sheetmetal applications a mig welder is recommended but I'm certainly no expert. This video is pretty old and my repairs have held up great and the Jeep is awesome. JD
Great video and repair lesson. Where you got the floor pans? I need to replace both sides where the roll bar rest. The same that you replaced. Thank you.
Just a drill bit to drill through the spot welds. It didn't work perfectly but good enough I could take a spot weld cutter and hit out the rest of it. The panels are Keys Parts panels and I got them at Quadratec. They are large "seam to seam" panels and you have to cut the to the size you need but they are an exact match and 18 gauge steel which matches the original sheet metal. Thanks again for the comment and interest. I'm finished with it now and getting the tub prepped for line x. It was quite a job doing 3 panels all at once. I'm happy with the way it turned out though and I did it myself so it was worth it.
JD, GREAT vid! Getting ready to do the same thing. 2 Questions; first what size drill bit did you use to drill out spot welds and second, is that a 110 wire welder? I have a 110 welder and am planning to use it.
matt82654 Hey Matt I’m not sure I remember the drill bit size. I think you would be fine with 1/4 inch. If that doesn’t get them all the way then go up in size. My welder is a Hobart handler 140 and yes 110. I believe I was on setting 2 or 3 for the sheet metal. 140 amp welder so it did really well. Good luck and thanks for the feedback.
I have yet to do body work. My question is: with my ocd, having some surface rust on the supports would bug me. Is there a way to take care of that or should I not worry about it?
Hey Mike! I’m certainly no expert but all rust must be addressed even surface rust. My answer to anything I missed was to line x my interior. This prevents the rust from getting oxygen. I’ve not had any issues w my passenger floor board that I didn’t replace but wire wheeled down and it’s been almost 2 years. It has been line x’d that whole time. I have the same OCD for this Jeep!! I also used a lot of primer as I welded the new panels in to prevent additional surface rust from forming on the bare metal.
I use standard 75/25 gas mix and for 18 gauge sheet metal no more than setting 3. You'll have to play around with the speed but use the chart on the inside flap of the welder as a guide. The more you use it, you will adjust to the settings that you like. I tend to like to weld hotter to ensure a better penetration between the steels but I wouldn't recommend this for sheet metal. I believe the wire I use is .030 solid wire. I've had the welder for a few years now and have used it extensively. It's been great and held up well. Thanks for the comment/questions. Good luck on your purchase.
Thanks for posting your work, its a great reference as my cj needs the tub lined, and new seats...these old jeep interiors have a hard life.
Hey Kyle and thanks for the comment. I ended up with over 70 videos on my channel on my Jeep build!! Never thought it would go that far but it is a slippery slope for sure. I will tell you one of the upgrades I wish I had done first was replacing my old worn out seats. What a difference in ride quality and your desire to jump in the Jeep and go. Worth every penny and looking back, I would have done that as one of my first upgrades. Glad you are enjoying the videos...look for my next update coming out in a few days where I'll be giving away some Jeep parts. JD.
My CJ has rusted in almost the same exact places as your's had. Thanks for the good information brother!
Barry Carr you’re welcome!!
Man you got 10 good years left on those old pans.
Haha yeah some people wouldn't have fixed them but I wanted to patch them up. JD
Watching some of your earlier videos, wow you have made a lot of progress, darn good videos also
jason lenihan Jason thank you. I have made a lot of progress on my Jeep and I also think my videos have come a long way!! Thanks for the feedback.
Great job JD.
Yesterday I ripped the carpeting out of my Jeep (why do they put carpeting in Jeeps?) I mean this stuff was glued down. And as you can imagine, rusted floor boards. I think the passenger side is salvageable, but the drivers side looks to be shot. Plus as you had, dozens of smaller drilled holes that who knows what were for, shotgun blast is a great description. Rear panels look pretty good. I do not own a welder or know how to weld. So I gotta see about getting the work done. But if I must do it myself, you've given me some good ideas.
Thanks
Jim
I didn’t own a welder or know how to weld either. One estimate from a body shop inspired me to learn! Not as bad as you think and a great tool to have. I saved a lot of money doing it myself. Give it some thought Jim. I think I got my mig welder for around $500 and the quote for my Jeep was over $3k from the body shop. That was just for the floor panels that I replaced. I’ve now used my welder extensively and love to weld!! Awesome tool (and I’m still no expert at it).
JD Offline
Hi JD, I have another welding question. Was your gas tank out of the Jeep when you welded in the floor panels? My drivers side is definitely shot and the passenger side could probably stand to be replaced also. Don't want to blow myself up, I'm too old to look that foolish.
( shows how little I know).
Jim
Jim yes it was out of the Jeep for safety (that parts in the first video). You can do it w the gas tank in according to the body shop I went to but I didn’t feel that was safe. I ended up having to replace my gas tank as once I took it down and removed the skid plate it was all rusted out. Thanks for the question Jim. Sounds like you have a project Jeep similar to mine!!
JD Offline
It's a bit of a project. Surprisingly the frame is in very good condition. Spent the last two days on my back looking up at mostly surface rust and some type of undercoating that just flakes off. Of course by the time I get on safety equipment ( glasses, face shield, respirator) everything fogs up so I can't see anything. Oh well, they never said it was gonna be easy!!!
Thanks
Jim
Excellent, exactly what I needed to see. Can I use a wire Welder that's not a mig or tig?
Hey Ron, I think for sheetmetal applications a mig welder is recommended but I'm certainly no expert. This video is pretty old and my repairs have held up great and the Jeep is awesome. JD
Great video and repair lesson. Where you got the floor pans? I need to replace both sides where the roll bar rest. The same that you replaced. Thank you.
Thank you! Repairs have held up well. I got the panels from morris 4x4. They are the key parts. Quality repair panels. JD
@@JDOffline thank you so much for the information!!!
@@mariotoro8437 you’re welcome!
Next time dont drill all the way through the floor supports and plug weld from the top
Thanks Patrick! I learned a lot doing this and always appreciate some tips...thanks for the comment. JD
Looks good . Was that a spot weld cutter or just drill bit? Where patch panels purchased?
Just a drill bit to drill through the spot welds. It didn't work perfectly but good enough I could take a spot weld cutter and hit out the rest of it. The panels are Keys Parts panels and I got them at Quadratec. They are large "seam to seam" panels and you have to cut the to the size you need but they are an exact match and 18 gauge steel which matches the original sheet metal. Thanks again for the comment and interest. I'm finished with it now and getting the tub prepped for line x. It was quite a job doing 3 panels all at once. I'm happy with the way it turned out though and I did it myself so it was worth it.
JD, GREAT vid! Getting ready to do the same thing. 2 Questions; first what size drill bit did you use to drill out spot welds and second, is that a 110 wire welder? I have a 110 welder and am planning to use it.
matt82654 Hey Matt I’m not sure I remember the drill bit size. I think you would be fine with 1/4 inch. If that doesn’t get them all the way then go up in size. My welder is a Hobart handler 140 and yes 110. I believe I was on setting 2 or 3 for the sheet metal. 140 amp welder so it did really well. Good luck and thanks for the feedback.
I have yet to do body work. My question is: with my ocd, having some surface rust on the supports would bug me. Is there a way to take care of that or should I not worry about it?
Hey Mike! I’m certainly no expert but all rust must be addressed even surface rust. My answer to anything I missed was to line x my interior. This prevents the rust from getting oxygen. I’ve not had any issues w my passenger floor board that I didn’t replace but wire wheeled down and it’s been almost 2 years. It has been line x’d that whole time. I have the same OCD for this Jeep!! I also used a lot of primer as I welded the new panels in to prevent additional surface rust from forming on the bare metal.
Thanks! The Jeep looks great!
I'm going to buy that exact welder. Can you tell me your settings for the 18 gauge ? Gas mixture, wire size ?
I use standard 75/25 gas mix and for 18 gauge sheet metal no more than setting 3. You'll have to play around with the speed but use the chart on the inside flap of the welder as a guide. The more you use it, you will adjust to the settings that you like. I tend to like to weld hotter to ensure a better penetration between the steels but I wouldn't recommend this for sheet metal. I believe the wire I use is .030 solid wire. I've had the welder for a few years now and have used it extensively. It's been great and held up well. Thanks for the comment/questions. Good luck on your purchase.
What welder did you use for the job? Thanks.
Dan Gibson Hey Dan. The welder is the Hobart handler 140. Worked great for this project and many others. Thanks.
For your mig welder, are you using flux-core wire? Thanks
I use solid wire and a separate gas tank bottle.
At 5:45 is that where your body mount goes ?
That’s where the front of the roll bar bolts to the Jeep. I have another video on my channel about the body mounts. Thanks for the comment.
I'll have 4 myself.
Haha!! If you lived closer I’d give you a hand for sure. JD