Guild Wars 2 Shortbow Renegade - Easy PvE Build Guide (36k DPS /w Allies August 23 Patch)

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  • Due to the nerfs and changes to renegade over the last few months I decided to update most of this guide. Still one of my favourite builds for PvE for sure!
    Timestamps:
    0:00 Introduction
    1:30 Playstyle & Skills
    09:30 Gear & Consumables
    11:06 Specializations, Traits
    13:17 How to Alac
    14:26 Rotation Guidance
    OW Roamer
    gw2skills.net/editor/?PmgAUVlh...
    OW Roamer (Higher Self-Healing Devastation)
    gw2skills.net/editor/?PmgAUVlh...
    Condi DPS
    gw2skills.net/editor/?PmgAUVlh...
    Righteous Rebel Alacrity (requires different Gear)
    gw2skills.net/editor/?PmgAUVlh...
    Music:
    www.bensound.com/royalty-free...
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  • @nnarcus
    @nnarcus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    the vindi power build is one of my favorite dps builds at the moment, and now you re-iterate on one of the classics. Great stuff mate! This build is a lot more accessible than the meta version and makes it so much easier to sustain.

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you very much for the kind words :) thatÄs exactly what it's intended to do!

  • @nathansoper1831
    @nathansoper1831 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this. As someone who is learning I don’t need to learn the highly complex perfectly executed sweaty rotation / build for months… just getting the basics down pat makes for a highly engaging, rewarding and calmer time. Really appreciated

  • @meemigemeemes7875
    @meemigemeemes7875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Channel is so useful!
    Thank you for the good Guide and Keep Up the good work

  • @mandodelorian4668
    @mandodelorian4668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Man, I sure appreciate that Anet made Ritualist (and Dragon) stat items so easy to get for people that don't have a lot of Legendary equipment already.
    /s

    • @Hiramekiza
      @Hiramekiza 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right. You could make them yourself, but that's a whole other can of worms, and a massively unsatisfying grind.

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Hiramekiza yea... if they at least included the stat in old selectables

    • @rolasmola9641
      @rolasmola9641 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hiramekiza Can you though? Sure, you can make the armor and weapons, but what about the trinkets and jewelry? As far as I was able to find, there are NO exotic or ascended backpieces available with Ritualist stats. You MUST get a Legendary backpiece in order to select them. Your only options for the others are WvW, Strikes, or achievement rewards.

    • @Endelean
      @Endelean ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rolasmola9641 Not sure if it's been updated since this comment but the stat selectable ascended gear from Living World maps e.g. Bitterfrost Frontier can select Ritualist, so trinkets aren't that bad to get.

  • @kamilekthefajny502
    @kamilekthefajny502 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks to you im finally doing some dmg as renegade alacdps tyvm

  • @shawnrelevo9534
    @shawnrelevo9534 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow I have been using the exact same build since I learned and main renegade for story and map exploration
    Never really take it up to fractals or raid as I prefer reaper for those content and don't know how to rotate properly to get the most out of the build.
    Anyway thanks for uploading this as now I know what the rotation for this build.

  • @joelng1975
    @joelng1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Masel!

  • @kiaraetsuko3523
    @kiaraetsuko3523 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this easily became my main. its so nice to just swap the legends and not the weapons, and not having a strict rotation makes me usually top or one of the tops dps in fights like strikes and raids. not so much infractals cause the enemies die there much faster so all your conditions dont have the time to add to your dps but still really really nice build and easy to play imo

  • @MrMystic1
    @MrMystic1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love it, great video. 👍

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ty! Right back at you, your easy rotation videos are really helpful. I've sent people to your account for those quite frequently, keep doing that :)
      (I also linked your channel on my recent gearing video btw, forgot to notify you about that)

    • @MrMystic1
      @MrMystic1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MaselMMO Shucks thanks, guess I'll go watch that video too then. I've definitely linked some of your videos as well because they are full of useful information needed for different situations and you explain things very well. Specifically the ele ones. Those were great. Cheers friend.

  • @trishtrash9339
    @trishtrash9339 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the time i'm using Replenishing Despair & Permeating Pestilence to stack torment on myself and yeet it onto the enemie, along with up to 2 other condis.
    But i'm also using Shiro instatt of Kala, since i'm not maxed out yet, so i might change this later.

  • @rainy6038
    @rainy6038 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why is my torment duration the same as other condi at 73.54% while urs is 100% torment and 87.2 for the rest? its the exact smae build and i only get 22k dps

  • @gs2791
    @gs2791 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how do you fit alacrity into the rotation, and has this build been nerfed or still the same?

  • @nimas.pourmand7368
    @nimas.pourmand7368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great build! One question I have to ask is that how does Invocation tree compare to Devastation? Namely the increased damage above and below certain %hp traits.

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From my testing invocation is at least 8-10%-ish above devastation under fully buffed circumstances. Keep in mind that this percentage decreases the lower your base damage (i.e. your stats) is because the damage from battle scars doesnt scale strongly with your stats, so it'll make up for a larger percentage of your damage.

  • @dodo6840
    @dodo6840 ปีที่แล้ว

    is there a other option for rune til got runes nightmare?

  • @joelng1975
    @joelng1975 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Masel. Is 72% Boon Duration and 67% condition duration good enough for the alac build?

    • @Popperofski
      @Popperofski ปีที่แล้ว

      I know this is like 2 months after you commented but I think Ren needs a stupid amount of boon duration to have a viable alac build - like near 100%. You really should run DPS Alac Specter or Power Alac Mechanist if you wanna do an alac dps build, unfortunately. Maybe Ren will get some love on the big November 4th PvE balance patch.

  • @aboatfloats
    @aboatfloats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the rotation part, you say "use citadel bombardment and scorchrazor" but the pics on the screen are citadel bombardment and "spiritcrush" (sb 4), so do u mean shortbow 4 or 5?

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh darn, that's a mistake on my part. I mean spiritcrush (the burning aoe) of course. I should stick to shortbow 2 3 4 to not make any mistakes

    • @JRZTT
      @JRZTT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaselMMO Oh I'm gonna ask about that myself thank for the answer

  • @lokrianets1438
    @lokrianets1438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the build. But have a question, maybe I need some guidence, would really appreciate your help.
    Have full ascended viper (but breastplate, collecting last few resources), same runes, same food but different Tuning crystal (master tuning), but it should make a big difference. And I have only 61.93% of condi duration with 629 expertise which doesn't give me 100% of torment duration , while in the build from the link it's 77.2 with 633 expertise that in the end of the day gives 100% torment. Is there any breakpoint when u get tonn of condi duration after 630 expertise that you get from gear? :D
    Or I am doing something wrong?
    Upd: and I have found the reason. It's Pact of Pain trait, that increses duration in the builder and doesn't show anything in the game.
    In this case I have another question: should I just train more to get same dps as you have? Because now I can't get more than 28.5k dps.
    Also funny thing: I do the same 28.5k with koi cake and Meaty Asparagus Skewer
    Thanks!

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 15% from pact of pain (corruption master trait) aren't shown in the hero panel ingame, so that's probably why you think you're missing condi duration but you aren't.
      The gw2skills editor shows it, but it doesn't show ingame for whatever reason.

    • @AsuraStriker
      @AsuraStriker ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaselMMO Is 28k solo the current benchmark for this class? I've been struggling to get it above 28k as well or am I missing something?

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AsuraStriker my benchmark of around 32k is solo. With the Ideal gear setup you should be able to get there...
      It's either a gear issue or something going wrong on the rotation.
      If you want to you can either record a benchmark and send me your gear setup

    • @AsuraStriker
      @AsuraStriker ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaselMMO th-cam.com/video/0tJLQo-qvoU/w-d-xo.html Thank you!

    • @AsuraStriker
      @AsuraStriker ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MaselMMO I also found out I had one wrong ring so I'm doing 29.7 now

  • @tsukemonomitch5679
    @tsukemonomitch5679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive tried everything to mimic your rotation but i can only max out at 22k, full vipers ascended, nightmare runes, torment and geomancy for short bow toxic fusing crystals and meaty asparagus, but and di your rotation over and over and over, what do you think is my mistake? D: trying to hit 30+ with condi ren

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's hard to say without seeing a video, if you can make one and link it, that would help.
      Geomancy sigil isn't great on this, you'd use earth. Geomancy does not trigger without swapping weapons, which I don't do in the rotation

  • @missk1697
    @missk1697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    personally i like shortbow + staff for very decent CC

  • @ryukjoga
    @ryukjoga ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there any good alternative to nightmare runes besides elementalist runes for condi build?

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you want something cheap, you can go for renegade runes and slap a sigil of demons + agony on your weapons to replace some of the condi duration. It'll cost you some dps, but should still get through most stuff just fine

    • @ryukjoga
      @ryukjoga ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaselMMO thanks, man. But in the end, i went with the nightmare runes since i had enough dg currency to buy them. But since the nerf to rev healing and in full viper i feel so frail now. Damage is amazing but sustain is lacking... Anet messed up, our high sustain is not op if you think about the lack of active defenses like a guard or war would have. Still my main class but it's hard to solo champs unless i go trailblazer.

  • @Dexiray
    @Dexiray 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what set could I use until I get my hands on Vipers?

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can use dire or rabid, that's very cheap in comparison. You'll lose the condi duration from vipers, but it'll make do until you get vipers

  • @tallersolano
    @tallersolano ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to build using divine gear, so I only have one set for quickness or allacrity?

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  ปีที่แล้ว

      I noticed that i thought you replied to the scrapper guide: you cam do that on Revenant, but you'd have to play power renegade for that which is a completely different build

    • @tallersolano
      @tallersolano ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaselMMO Excuse the question, would the short bow and two swords be used?
      Bleeding is boosted by power too? What a pity I've been playing little. and only copied builds without understanding how they worked.

    • @tallersolano
      @tallersolano ปีที่แล้ว

      and again I congratulate you for your content. the only one who explains things well for new people like me.

  • @JRZTT
    @JRZTT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it just me or your embrace of darkness radius is bigger than me, i felt like that was 360-600 while me got 240, don't know why

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It shouldn't be larger, at least I wouldn't know why it would be :D

    • @lokrianets1438
      @lokrianets1438 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaselMMO It may look larger because of the camera angle, redius is the same for all renegades in the game :D

  • @ericb1548
    @ericb1548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No Rolling Mists? Not needing that extra crit? Thought for sure folks would jump on that fix? Ah never mind....you answered it. ;)

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea it's good if you want some additional burst, but the conditions from Song of the mists just yield more damage for me on the condi build. On power it's roiling mists all the way

  • @ianashmore9910
    @ianashmore9910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Condi renegade was my favorite until the Torment and battle scars nerfs.

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not much has changed tbh, it's still one of the most powerful OW builds due to it's range and insane damage/cc/healing

    • @ianashmore9910
      @ianashmore9910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MaselMMO
      It's still fine for general play, but I found the damage lacking to tackle EOD effectively without the sustain.

  • @johnnyt1745
    @johnnyt1745 ปีที่แล้ว

    with set exotic i can do 25-30k?

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, you can.

    • @johnnyt1745
      @johnnyt1745 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaselMMO ty

  • @aliothvulcan
    @aliothvulcan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can i use dual swords with this build?

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn't advise you to, since they don't apply any damaging conditions

  • @Cannon361
    @Cannon361 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any idea if this build is still viable as of 07/2023?

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's surely viable, but it's been outpaced by the crazy power creep that happened in the meantime

    • @Cannon361
      @Cannon361 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaselMMO Ah, that's a shame. Seemed like such a fun build. I have a hard time playing anything sub-optimal, cause I can't help but think I'm hindering my gameplay deliberately.

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cannon361 you can do a very strong rotation involving mace + axe, and without changed mists (which leads to most of the complexity in the benchmark)

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cannon361 I show it at 20:00 here:
      th-cam.com/video/bZBEMuiTITw/w-d-xo.html

    • @Cannon361
      @Cannon361 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaselMMO Brilliant, thank you!

  • @joelkim1143
    @joelkim1143 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sadly the best I get is 20.9k doing this rotation

  • @SeuRafinha
    @SeuRafinha ปีที่แล้ว

    what is "with allies"?

    • @MaselMMO
      @MaselMMO  ปีที่แล้ว

      "with allies" means that you'll only get the dps listed when you have allies with you that benefit from your presence. On Renegade, razorclaw's rage makes allies apply stacks of bleeding, but the damage from the stacks they apply is added to your damage in the game. Some classes have skills that work this way (specter/renegade/herald/firebrand) and therefore their damage potential is listed that way

  • @pamkin001
    @pamkin001 ปีที่แล้ว

    need help master new in the game only how to get a short bow ? can i buy on npc the bow or i need to crafting thxs..

    • @preguicadetu
      @preguicadetu ปีที่แล้ว

      you can buy armor/weapons at trading posts or get one from enemies, but enemies drop stuff with random stats.
      you can also craft, I don't know if it is worth crafting exotic things, since I see people using craft for ascendent

  • @napalm_8763
    @napalm_8763 ปีที่แล้ว

    not work actually