What is Philosophy of Biology? | ENCORE Episode 1806 | Closer To Truth
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- What is philosophy of biology? Biology has big questions. What is life, language, race, gender, morality, wisdom, religion, extraterrestrial intelligence? A new field of inquiry seeks underlying structure and coherence. Featuring interviews with Michael Ruse, Francisco J. Ayala, Celia Deane-Drummond, and Louis Caruana.
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Thank you for this very important discussion. The arbitrary barrier between natural and social sciences has been an impediment in many philosophical discussions. This type of open conversation will help break that barrier. What we label as wisdom or religion can thus be explained as biological processes in evolution. Same as birds building intricate houses or beavers building dams. Hanging colourful objects or painting the skin with colour could be explained as mimicking animals with colourful pigments, and both of which helped in natural selection. All of this then leads us to the fundamental "wanting" to exist, or simply to "exist".
I think we should try to combine as many fields of knowledge as we can to try and find the truth about reality.
The truth is largely known already... everything is mind... everything
Nearly fifty years ago I took a philosophy of science course but it was more philosophy for physicists. The professor suggested statistics might be more useful.
The love of my life is always working to show me he's not gone. I can't wait to have a full blown conversation with him.
Sorry you need to miss him Rose... Bless you. Bless him. You are right. Love is eternal.
I like videos that make me think of things I haven't thought of before.
Wait till you realize thoughts aren't "yours" 🤯
FASCINATING, thank u for this all scientific and philosophical community appreciate it
Funny how these vids have led all of us here for answers. To what we have know idea, but we are here watching interacting digitally. As far as I know. Love this! Great channel! Makes me think I think? Haaaa
The beauty of biology is, that biology is the foundation of Alchemy, which is 2 x 2=4. Sound.
If you want to move Biology to the top of the ladder, then figure out where consciousness resides and works in the human body. You should get a Nobel Prize for that as well as the meaning of life and explain the illusion of our universe.
Mike H / Universe is not an illusion. You're part of the Universe and you're not an illusion.
@@mikel4879 You feel this way because your consciousness tells you this. But where exactly is our consciousness inside our body or our brains? When you see a car, you “know” that’s its real and that it was made by people but the moon is real as well, right? But who made the moon? We know that people didn’t make it. So we have to ask ourselves, Who did make it then? When you discover the answer, you will also discover the truth to our existence. Let me know if you get stuck and I’ll give you more clues but the search is just as enjoyable as the answer.
Mike Harper / Oooh, my oh my!
Let me gues: religion!
Well, you're unlucky, because I don't give a damn about religions, faiths and gods.
It you are religious, then feel free to talk to my hand anytime./
Consciousness is a complex material function created exactly in the real material brain. Any bacterium has a bit of consciousness, your dog has a bit more, and humans have the most.
It has been created by evolution in a very long time in the real material aggregate called brain.
When you become demented, exactly that real material scaffolding in your brain called consciousness gets destroyed, and you lose the connection with reality, so you become semi or non-conscious.
Etc, etc.
So, please, spare me from your religious delusions.
@@mikel4879 I understand your frustration in understanding our existence and the meaning of it all. I personally have been kicking myself for most of my life trying to make sense of it and if we look back at the history of mankind, it’s apparent that people have been wondering about this since Day One. And all the philosophers and scientists and the religions - nobody - seems to be able to get a handle on it. All we can definitely take away from life are the experiences and feelings and emotions and thoughts. And that is okay because that, I believe, is what this life on earth was intended to do. There is no right or wrong answer. Just the experience. And we get that and think about it and analyze it and dream about it and experience it ALL, through our consciousness. If we aren’t conscious of it, then what would it matter if it was real or imaginary or fake. I remember a comedian talking about him and his wife on a beach and she caught him staring at a beautiful busty young woman and she jealously and angrily yelled at him to make him feel ashamed at himself and the argument that she used was to tell him that the young ladies boobs were fake, just implants. And he told his wife that he knew that, just like he knew Superman was fake, but that didn’t take away any of his pleasures from enjoying it all. Now we both know that comedian will never get to meet Superman any more than he’ll get to touch those fake boobies on the girl that he was checking out, but the thought of it all that he experienced with his consciousness was pleasurable to him and it sparked his imagination. That’s the beauty of this existence that we have while we are here and experience through consciousness. And that’s all we can take away. You never see a U-Haul truck following a hearse so that the dearly departed can take all his stuff with him. The Egyptian Pharaohs tried that and we see that didn’t work out so well. And so life is what we make of it and all the experiences we can get, and just like a movie, some are great, some are good, and some are lousy and a waste of time and money. What we all need to decide is what movie we want to make with our lives, while at the same time knowing that we can’t take the material stuff with us and that the human body doesn’t live forever. All we have and keep are the experiences. If it were otherwise I’d hang out with Superman and have a girlfriend with huge fake boobies. Life is what we can make of it and experience and if you can find joy and happiness and meaning, what difference would it make how you found it, you just enjoy it and be thankful for it. For then you will take pleasure in every morning when you wake up and get another chance to enjoy it even more.
Mike H / And here you are, writing a long useless text that has nothing to do with the correct understanding of consciousness.
You're just wasting my time.
It doesn't matter what you consciously or semi-consciously understand. What it really matters is the real material process itself in your brain called consciousness.
Why the humanity is interested in it? Because it wants to fully reproduce it artificially.
Do you understand now?
That's the purpose of this subject on Robert's TH-cam channel.
Thank you for your work
Theology of biology would be important here, especially regarding questions of morality (sex, death, theft) as to whether man is privileged or held to account in a way other animals are. If the deity has no qualms about other animals doing these things, why would it have qualms about our species doing the same things? From where does our morality evolve? Does God have a personal stake in our morality? Could such a being be Supreme? Is human suffering privileged over the suffering of other animals? How and by whom?
philosophy of organic/sentient systems or even organic/sentient philosophy could also apply to many branches, maybe 🤔
I love the 7 laws of nature.
If we noticed that, as a newton law’s, energies never been destroyed, but they’ll be transferred to the different types of energies! another words, if we counted human being as a combination of the different energies, then we can understand that, when we dies, our electrical energy, will be transferred to the lights or photons, and the rest of our body’s, which is the dead energies , goes in to the graves ( holes ) and get mixed with the soils , the phenomenon described above, is the philosophy of biological science, which works in earth 🌍 and also , in space and universes which we call it quantum mechanics.
The first interviewee seriously (!) asserted that the difference between human men and human women is larger than the difference between human and chimpanzee. Well, he's just not much of a biologist, then, let alone a deep thinker.
So, I wasn't the only one to call BS, right there and then and stopped the video!
Not wasting my TIME!
Have a wonderful day!
Cheers 😽
True, men often identify as women, but chimps don't identify as human
I think we should try to combine every field of knowledge to try and find the truth about reality and I'm not just talking about scientific fields of study I also mean things like philosophy mathematics and spirituality all things that don't use the scientific method but are very important and nonetheless I think we should try to combine them all together to try and find a truth about reality.
I agree. If we demarcate all thoughts of every field we will never know anything. We are stuck in a circle… just my 2 cents
I think that we should try to combine every field of knowledge into one and instead of seeing them as completely different see them as all parts of a greater whole which is the truth about reality and I think they all need to be assessed individually to see if it's worth to combine a certain field of knowledge to the greater whole but to analyze them on whether or not they should be combined into the greater whole of this ultimate field of study you would have to judge them on individual level for example you would not say that math is invalid because it doesn't work on a scientific method the same for philosophy you wouldn't call philosophy invalid because it doesn't work on a scientific method so I think we should be trying to combine these different fields of study as much as we can to understand the truth about reality.
Geez, mr. Robert, why the voice over is so rushed in new seasons? :(
Thank you to make us taste a littel bit. Thanks
Isn't a false negative more dangerous?
He sounds a bit like Professor Farnsworth from Futurama.
It is the philosophy science related to the existence of living being in this unknowable universe
That doesn't make sense, existing of living? It's either one or the other, either we are existing or we are living.
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Organic biology is the exact opposite of the matrix.
And the matrix is exactly what we exist in, not "living" in because living is to never die so e are only existing inside of this machine.
I can never believe that they just give awnsers sporadical, but that they have a well preparered speach
Either that or a well prepared brain
“One’s purpose not to be alone” - Wald Wassermann, Theoretical Physicist.
🤣 again!!! So you have changed your user name for 3rd time in 24 hrs! You going to keep deleting the threads I call you out on? So sad that I now pity you.
5th change of name and another thread you embarrassed yourself on deleted. Hope you have a beautiful day 💗
Here is a new quote for you to put on your rotation
"The moon does not tug at the oceans due to gravity, it simply wants to give the fish a kiss" W.W, Physicist and disingenuous loser
I touch and yet who feels; I have sight yet who see's; I hear but who listens; I taste and some one enjoys; i live and yet who's I am; I think but from whence is Intellect; I love yet what is the union or relation.
Wisdom is probably the most important thing. The pinnacle of Being once recognized, the relating of all things, in to unity, the great meaning and purpose found.
What more important goal is there than acquiring Wisdom. It is likely our very Being. Our shaping with chisel & hammer away of the excess so our true form is had. The Lotus body, Soul, is same as Wisdom. Working on ourself, chiseling away the false notions, belief, our true form was always there; working on ourselves is just that.
Anyone else get crazy anxiety seeing these gentlemen on those ridiculous chairs. You don't have the bone mass to take that risk!!!
I approve this message. Bodies wire neuroplastic brains, and a philosophy that factors in biology is better equipped to apprehend the relationship between the brain-body and mind. We can thus consider the phenomenology and ontology of experience as it relates to *all* biological forms, not just human. Questions like, what's it like to be a bat, can now be more meaningfully responded to.
A similar trend in semiotic theory, from the human-specific (Charles Sanders Peirce) to the more general biosemiotic (Jakob von Uexküll), likewise expands our understanding of the nature of consciousness. A philosophy of biology would do well to factor in biosemiotic theory, as it was von Uexküll who inspired Humberto Maturana in his contributions to systems theory.
A phenomenology and ontology of experience as it applies to *all* creatures? It follows as self-evident. Experiences intercepted by bodies wire neuroplastic, DNA-entangled brains, and this implies that consciousness can only ever be subjective, there is no objective "true" way of interpreting reality. This relates to the nature of being, the "knowing how to be" that applies to all life.
A major role of philosophy in science relates to asking the right questions. A philosophy of biology would likewise take seriously the big problems that include entropy, binding and the mind-body problem. It promises new ways of interpreting life and the nature of reality. It sets the stage for a much-needed Copernican revolution in the life sciences.
Behavioral ecology and neuroethology combined answer all this questions without invoking theology BS
are both easy problems of consciousness , even for animals. I assume you never had a pet.
You mean darwinian BS.
Only an intelligence ( like Man) makes, maintains, improves, evolves, fine tunes Abstract & physical Functions.
A Function ... is a process .. with set purpose, form, design & properties ( information).
All Functions ... possess & require ... information to exist & to function.
And only an intelligence ( like Man) can extract information from a Function ... and ... make Functions with information.
Anything ... that has clear & obvious purpose, form, design, processes and properties ... is a Function and can only be made by an intelligence.
A machine is a physical Function.
The three types of machines are mechanical, electrical & molecular ( LIFE)
It is a fact of science .. that nature & natural processes can never make & operate the simplest mechanical or electrical machine.
It is complete bullshit ... that nature & natural processes over billions of years can make a simple molecular ( biological) machine, and make this machine more complex.
There is absolutely ZERO evidence that nature & natural processes can make & operate an abstract or physical Function. And yet evolution, biogenesis & 13.7 billion year old Universe ... is religiously believed to be a fact ... and that Man discover how Nature did he impossible. lol. Dingbats.
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I thought you where going to talk about Mayr’s philosophy of biology or even Tinbergen’s four questions… but theology? As a biologist, behavioral ecologist and neuroethologist myself, I don’t see the point.
Theology will be always bring in because your branch of study cover only a limited (even if quite important) aspect of the problem. Both on amplitude (usually it cover only soft problem of consciousness since is about behavioral aspects) and in length since you start already to study with all the cards already on the table.
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God can be inside and outside the realm world 🌍 space and time he can hop in the mind and body and stay there long he wants too he can gave you vision and knowledge God not a spirit he alive through in and out the heart and spirit depend what God you practice depend on the mindset can bring and enter the words of good or evil the power of the minds and signals manifesting
Wishful thinking. Materialism first and last. All that exists is matter and energy and it's configurations. The universe will end some day and nothing that is "us" will survive.
@@rickwyant limited perspective, there are many things yet to be discovered that could change our views
it is not a closed case
They presuppose intelligence has or is evolving.the human intellect is a different kind and our intelligence today is no greater in kind then it always has been.
It's for example the knowledge that the real living entity can in principal never appear in science, not even in biology! 😉
The brain is us. No brain, no us. Anything else is wishful thinking.
Anything else is brainy thinking.
Your premise is based materialism...which is quite untenable...so ur premise is wishful thinking
..philosophy of biology is a cyclop, spoken with Kant, has only one eye, but not the two eyes of the prima philosophia..
Cameras everywhere?? That's like one eye.
To me Philosophy of Biology is a little undefined at the moment. It's scope seems a kind of blurry. I find it difficult to understand how someone could believe in the existence of God and at the same time believes in the Darwinist evolution. Is it that God who was so wise and powerful to have started the existence of things suddenly became senile and frail so that evolutionary processes had to take over and just bring about anything that chance and accident could produce without any guiding input from God? That doesn't make sense in any shape or form.
What appear to be similarities and slight variations among 'biological units' or entities which are always interpreted by evolutionists as key evidence of the evolutionary process or ladder, point instead to something else. This is comparable to a mass production factory, say iPhone factory. The core technology is the same for all iPhones with slight variations for every new set of iPhones produced. Do the similarities and slight variations point to self evolving iPhones? We know the answer is NO. The case with iPhones applies to all mass production factories of cars, television sets, etc. And this applies as well to the biodiversity around us. So clearly, these similarities and variations direct us to one creator with a carefully guided core technology.
Regarding the sudden emergence and extinction of some species, there could be multiple reasons for this without the involvement of any evolutionary processes. Take note that living organisms are autonomous, selfrefueling biological machines. This is high tech, the kind craved by robotics. Just the kind of technology one would sensibly expect a cosmic creator to have! Those biological machines like dinosaurs may have been brought about in certain geological age(s) for particular purposes and were decommissioned when the purpose(s) where achieved. That is one possibility.
So I too am wondering what specific direction Philosophy of Biology is headed.
It depends on one's definition of God. There are so many. A pantheist view is very much reconcilable with a scientific view.
@@ximono yeah thats like hindu view of god...brahman/maya interplay seems quite plausible here. Especially if ones ontological premise is taken away from the fallacious materialistic/physicalist view to a idealist (i specifically mean Analytic idealism) or panpsychist view. I am much more inclined towards the former...
Michael Ruse got me excited. All the religion killed it. I fail to understand what mythology and magical thinking have to do with the philosophy of biology.
The real magical thinking is the belief that a mass of densely packed neural tissue, by nature dead and unconscious, which is arranged as a (complicated) network of transmission cables, could *somehow* give rise to a thinking feeling personality experiencing (subjective) conscious experience, without there being any *explanatory mechanism* whatsoever. That is the real black magic, the real superstition. That belief that something so disparate as thought and feeling could possibly arise from the dead and unfeeling category of sticks and stones and unconscious material substance!
Take a high dose of 5-MEO, or have an NDE, and you'll quickly discover that the magical thinking is the idea that you are located in a body, on a planet, in a universe
Philosophy of Flatulence
Why separate a loud wet bubbly fart from a whispy quiet windy fart
The ONLY purpose of not only philosophy and bioligy, but of all knowledge as such, is the SATISFACTION OF THE NEEDS OF ALL BEINGS.
We don't need a system of knowledge to declare anything positive as impossible and/or anything negative as inevitable. But that is exactly what Experimental and Observational Science practically does at present.
This is because it inherited the fatalistically destructive FAITH that an uncontrollable external force controls all events in this universe, from the traditional religions it is supposed to have discarded.
And it also lacks a purpose of its own and assumes NATURE (practically its own substitute for GOD of traditional religions) is CHAOCRATIC ( think ENTROPY).
But consider the following possibility:
Nature has a positive purpose, but it doesn't promote it as it would only reveal the scaling formulae for rendering life permanent amd positive only to those ones among humans that follow unique VIRTUES (aesthetics, ethics, morals) regarding the functions of the 3 entities:
1) Plants (aesthetics: facilitate SURVIVAL of all beings by enabling all plants to bear fruits suitable for animal and human consumption)
2) Animals (ethics: JUSTICE to all animals through designing fodder that enable productive function of the interior of the earth, thereby eradicating predation)
3) Other humans (morals: HAPPINESS through coimplementing the designs for terraforming and occupying other stars and planets in productive cooperation with animals).
This places NATURE as a flexible entity that can be made divine or evil depending only on our own activities in it.
Thus, the purpose free mathematical patterns oriented detection of LAWS OF NATURE based Experimental and Observational Science FATALISM is no less harmful than the GOD based FATALISM of traditional religions it replaced.
No, the differences between men and women is nowhere near the differences between humans and bonobos.
I didn't get that either. Did he mean that the difference between a human male and human female is larger than between e.g. a human male and a bonobo male? Still a strange argument to make.
biology is actually algorithm execution. Our algorithm is written in DNA. We execute it. Evolution is evolution of algorithm, behaviour - that's it.
too simplistic
@@francesco5581 nature does not have to be complex to satisfy your needs. You are complex, not nature.
If you think enough - you will see that it starts from simple particles. Then to atoms, molecules, cells and you. More and more complex.
@@francesco5581 evolution of algorithms would give predictions and could be checked - something really rare in today science.
@@matterasmachine Is true that the universe is beautifully simple. But we talk about philosophy of biology because the things you give for granted arent supposed to be so. for example a spider knows how to make his web without following classes ... Is written in DNA ? Page 4853 of the DNA "how to make webs for newbies" ? how is coded that information ? IS physical ? is archetypal ? are information at quantum level ? how that started ? possible that by random chance dna with information was created ?
@@francesco5581 simple. everything in this universe is robot. And always was. Including elementary particles. Quantum mechanics describes robots, not waves. That’s why action is discrete. So dna of spider stores algorithm and your too. We are all robots and your wishes are your current objectives generated for you by instincts. All philosophy is created by our algorithm too.
How long will it take for the white ppl in Africa to turn black from the sun alone
"Modified monkeys"? This guy is lost.
"Evolved monkeys" maybe?
Don’t agree at all with any mixture of theology with biology. As a neutoethologist you can interpret any behavior, and trait without theology BS.
Biology is about monkeys who have not awaken to their own reality while physicists from the last 100 years have scaled great heights given us quantum mechanics and cosmology, realizing one can not reduce the whole to some of it's parts like reductionist and materialist would. Matter is inherently paradoxical, "epigenetics which no one really knows how it works, is the management system that the cell program in some sense has to make the judgment" according to Steve Davies.
I think all fields of knowledge should be combined and genuinely considered before being discarded I think every field of knowledge needs to have some sort of proof behind it that is specific to its field and then to find the truth about the universe people should then try to combine the different fields of knowledge to make ultimate field of study to find the truth of reality.
You mean darwinian BS.
Only an intelligence ( like Man) makes, maintains, improves, evolves, fine tunes Abstract & physical Functions.
A Function ... is a process .. with set purpose, form, design & properties ( information).
All Functions ... possess & require ... information to exist & to function.
And only an intelligence ( like Man) can extract information from a Function ... and ... make Functions with information.
Anything ... that has clear & obvious purpose, form, design, processes and properties ... is a Function and can only be made by an intelligence.
A machine is a physical Function.
The three types of machines are mechanical, electrical & molecular ( LIFE)
It is a fact of science .. that nature & natural processes can never make & operate the simplest mechanical or electrical machine.
It is complete bullshit ... that nature & natural processes over billions of years can make a simple molecular ( biological) machine, and make this machine more complex.
There is absolutely ZERO evidence that nature & natural processes can make & operate an abstract or physical Function. And yet evolution, abiogenesis & 13.7 billion year old Universe ... is religiously believed to be a fact ... and that Man discover how Nature did he impossible. lol. Dingbats.
When you combine religion with biology you get a big BS. ☹️👎
How?
Devdersh S / Try it, and you'll find it.
@@mikel4879 i Have but i have found the results to be unexpectedly contrast to your position...cause i used to be a atheist(new atheist movement, christopher hitchens& sam harris fan) and very staunch mechanistic materialist
Devdersh / When you don't know almost anything correctly, you can sustain any contrary opinion.
Let me tell you how you find the BS very easily.
Take a book of Biology and a book with the doctrine of any religion. Put a bowl next to these books.
Read some pages from the Biology book. Read some pages from the religion book.
Repeat until you finish reading the books.
By the time you finish reading both of them the Bowl next to them will be full of sheet.
There it is, you've found the BowlSheet! /
No problem. You can be any person you want to be, today atheist, tomorrow theist, next in the white beautiful hospital, and so on. There's always new hiring at circuses.
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When you don't know almost anything correctly, you can sustain any contrary opinion.
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So according to you anyone who has a contrarian stance on a subject is wrong therefore your position is the only correct one..well that sure gives me the type of mindset you have..the same one all radical religious people do.
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Let me tell you how you find the BS very easily.
Take a book of Biology and a book with the doctrine of any religion. Put a bowl next to these books.
Read some pages from the Biology book. Read some pages from the religion book.
Repeat until you finish reading the books.
By the time you finish reading both of them the Bowl next to them will be full of sheet.
There it is, you've found the BowlSheet!
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Alright I see how you do your analysis...that is the most flawed way to analyze anything.
Just casually drifting through the pages of anything makes it absurd...(I am a non-dualist Hindu, so I can't speak for Abrahamic religions). There are layers of iconography, allegories, and Multiple levels of meanings...especially in my case requires some years of practical experimentation and experiencing the said stuff making sure you aren't giving into self-deception nor any sort of fallacious logical chain of thought. Requires a deep and genuine look at these things with the attitude...whatever be the conclusion of whether this is true or false i will accept it and not let my bias get in the way(i was materialistic then) otherwise, i would be living a lie. Your jokes suck ny the way. Well, I am foremost a physics Major with MSc in it. currently working on my Ph.D. thesis. Well it's surprising that when one goes deep into the implications of equations of physics and the philosophical underpinnings of it, it blows the arrogance of your face.
For example Physical realism has been proved false as both local and non-local realism; bell's and Leggett's inequality respectively been violated, proving one of the core tenets of physicalism(sort of extended physicalism (ontological and epistemological)) has been proven false. Also Argument from epistemology i.e All knowledge presupposes the mind, also nails this(i can write a whole explanation on this but heck this is a YT comment).
Even evolutionary biology and Game theory applied to verdicality of vision (a Paper by MIT scientist Donald D Hoffman) mathematically proves the verdicality of vision or of any senses is 0% giving much crdence to the indirect realism or more importantly Representational theory of mind. Again a nail on the coffin for materialism, Even neuroscience experiments like cutting of corpus callosum generate a dissociation of consciousness into two different and unique consciousness with two points of centers of origin. Also in certain cases a rise in awareness while the neurological activity decreases show instances in which identity theory completely fails to explain. Also in principle materialism can't explain consciousness as non-mental matter from some specific intricate configuration of these DEAD matter generating mentality...well the only that's possible is strong emergence but that's appealing to magic...while weak emergence in principle itself fails before getting started.
So then we are left with dualism and panpsychism...well former has interaction problem and latter has recombination problem...then we are left with idealism..i.e consciousness is fundamental and all is derivative of consciousness. Its parsimonious and coherent and also takes away the hard problem of consciousness that other ontologies fail to reconcile. For detailed work on this refer to Bernardo Kastrup's Analytic Idealism, He has 10 published papers on this and he got his PhD in Philosophy for this from a prestigious college in Europe. Its also available book format as "The Idea Of the World".
Here Hinduism is built upon the ontological premise of consciousness is fundamental. Through rigorous studies that picture is now clearer than ever.
i am just gonna stop there for now,
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No problem. You can be any person you want to be, today atheist, tomorrow theist, next in the white beautiful hospital, and so on. There's always new hiring at circuses.
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Haha that's your comeback?...wow well yesterday you were a fool, today an idiot and untill you die an arrogant blind man, hopefully, you may change...also circuses are more suited to fools like you. Never my taste.