1958 UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD FILM FRUITS & VEGETABLE FARMING & SHIPMENT to SUPERMARKET 67904

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  • @tnate6004
    @tnate6004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Gratitude to the farmworkers who are part of the backbone of our country and deserve much better treatment and pay.

  • @gplunk
    @gplunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The simple little things you take for granted....

  • @bestfriendhank1424
    @bestfriendhank1424 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watching these types of videos remind me of all the valuable labor that all the seasonal field workers provide.

  • @andybaldman
    @andybaldman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Everyone should watch these videos. They really put the current world into perspective.

    • @kathmandu1575
      @kathmandu1575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah they do. Talk about societal regression...

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kathmandu1575 Yep. It happens so slowly most people don't notice. But we're all frogs, slowly being boiled.

  • @lonniebishop1750
    @lonniebishop1750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    A very good film that shows the important role railroads like Union Pacific played in keeping fruits and vegetables fresh . Fine posting. Thanks.

  • @roberthuron9160
    @roberthuron9160 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This film is a MUST SEE,for those people at Davos,[World Economic Forum],as they take everything they have,as a given! The sheer amount of labor,time,and brain power is beyond their imagination! Add the Fishermen,Cattlemen,and other Farmers,who cultivate and grow everything from nuts,to cabbage,plus produce the milk,and cheese to go along with their meals! Oops,don't forget the wine growers,for the vineyards,that produce their wine and champagne that they love to feast on! It's a long,and complicated supply line,that girds this planet,and few are aware of the entirety of its total operation! We owe much to,many unsung heroes,and heroines,who make this whole thing possible! Thank you so much for showing a small segment of what goes on daily, right under people's noses! Thank you 😇 😊!

  • @disco0752
    @disco0752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Used to watch this stuff in public school. Great way to relax.

  • @paulgriffiths8359
    @paulgriffiths8359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Absolutely fantastic stuff, loved it, as a irrigation farmer from the other side of the world I loved looking at the Cats and A.C. crawlers land planes and all the rest of it
    And I like trains as well so it had everything

  • @Nunofurdambiznez
    @Nunofurdambiznez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Once again, Peri, you hit a home run with one of your fabulous videos!! Please keep these great ones coming, as they are MOST enjoyable during these rotten lockdown times!

  • @dougauzene8389
    @dougauzene8389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very Cool..Still, (to me) Like l Am Watching Yesterday... Thanks For Posting!

  • @ecleveland1
    @ecleveland1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still believe this time was the best time in America. I came along just after this time period. My parents and grandparents used to talk about the way things were. Our cities were clean, people had more respect for each other, they dressed better when they went out. We didn’t have all the murders and other violent crimes, people used to leave their homes and never lock their doors. American made products were the highest quality in all the world. There was huge economic growth and everybody had jobs. Our classrooms were places students actually got an education and not an indoctrination.

  • @sarjim4381
    @sarjim4381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It looks like UP must have scrubbed up gas turbine electric (GTEL) 62 for the film's publicity shot. They were the most powerful non-steam locomotives in the US in 1958, and I imagine the UP must have wanted the GTEL to be the focus of the shot, in addition to all the refrigerator cars. It was very rare to see a GTEL running without a fuel tender and and at least one trailing diesel, used to drag the GTEL into a siding in case of a flame out and stall, a not uncommon occurrence with these early locomotives.

  • @johnpreisler6713
    @johnpreisler6713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the Turbines

  • @louislamonte334
    @louislamonte334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The PFE was truly a wondrous company! How tragic so much of this type of cargo has left the rails! Given today's trucker shortages, increasing environmental concerns and the unGodly cost of gasoline, rail transportation makes more and more sense! Let's hope that produce, meat, etc. returns to the railroads!

    • @lukestrawwalker
      @lukestrawwalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Today's RR's aren't equipped to handle this sort of transport anymore... now they're all about 1) bulk shipments of stuff like coal, iron ore, gravel, oil, grain, etc which can sit in a RR car for long periods and not suffer quality problems, and 2) intermodal shipments. H3ll even "road to rail" where they'd put refrigerated box trucks on flatcars for shipment to various staging areas then unload them at a depot for pickup by "local" semis that would haul them to the final destination over the highway is pretty much gone now. None of the infrastructure and rolling stock necessary for this sort of railroading even exists anymore, and where would you find the workers willing to do the job and smart enough to do it right??
      BUT you are correct-- the RR is STILL *THE* most fuel efficient per ton-mile way to move cargo around-- steel wheels on steel rails is very efficient, compared to rubber tires on highways. Problem is the rail network isn't as expansive as it used to be; far less actual "destination points" nowadays, and not likely to come back. The country made a decision, conscious or unconscious, to switch to trucking decades ago, for many cargoes like these, leaving the railroads to deal with massive amounts of bulk materials and sheer volumes of things like intermodal boxes moving point-to-point for distribution rather than directly to the end user. More likely that automated driverless trucks are the future, than rebuilding the railroad infrastructure that's been lost.

  • @FerroequinologistofColorado
    @FerroequinologistofColorado ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty awesome to see North Platte mentioned here. I’ve seen the modern North Platte facility many times and while the massive icing dock in North Platte is long gone. I’ve seen pretty amazing photos of it.

  • @Baynewsvideo
    @Baynewsvideo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh My God!!!! She touched the carrots!!!! Corona Virus Passer!!!! Argggggggggg!!!!

  • @rowanmoormann9532
    @rowanmoormann9532 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Right on, thanks for sharing this.

  • @sarjim4381
    @sarjim4381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Back in the dayhs when produce managers took the time to make nice, colorful displays of their fruits and vegetables rather than just dumping them in bins like we see today. Because they took the time to set up the displays, the producemen were able to cull the lowest quality and least attractive items instead of making the customer dig through the mounds of junk to find something worth buying. Shopping was a much more pleasant experience then.

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Blame capitalism. This is what happens when a system gets optimized to make profit, not to give you the best experience possible.

    • @lukestrawwalker
      @lukestrawwalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Back when you could make a decent living and provide for a family working retail... now it's a minimum wage job... Later! OL J R :)

  • @lookingforonetruechristian7396
    @lookingforonetruechristian7396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I see a lot of people who are impressed with how the workers acted and dressed with pride. That is because even grocery store employees were paid a living wage then. As were service station attendants, milk delivery employees, etc. When people are paid well they do take more pride their work. My dad at the time was an electrician and made $6000/yr. We liked in a 3 bedroom, 2.5 bath house on 2 acres a block from the beach. We lived very well on that $6000. Now people couldn't live like we did on $60,000 a year. Grocery store employees make much less than $60,000 now. So no they are just trying to get by and probably have more than one job.

    • @jeffreycoulter4095
      @jeffreycoulter4095 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its not wages, its debt created inflation. My dad was an electrician then as well. He made $7000 a year. We too lived in a 3 bedroom house. But by 1976, they couldn't afford a new home, or college for their children. Why? Inflation and debt. Funding the Vietnam war , elimination of the gold standard and dollar backing. But let's not forget greed. Stock market was around $700~900. Look at it today. This all represents devaluation of the currency. The living wage mantra is hollow unless you understand fully how we got here.
      In the 1940s, a can of peaches was 12 1/2 cents. In the 1970's the same can was a quarter, today it's about $1.50 to $2. Does it really cost that much? No. Ask yourself why and what happened.

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffreycoulter4095 Ding ding ding!

    • @lukestrawwalker
      @lukestrawwalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly... CRONY capitalism at its finest... and all we've gotten for it is a crop of billionaire oligarchs that want to tell us to "eat bugs and own nothing and be happy" while they provoke WW3 in their greed and lust for power to control the world...

    • @lukestrawwalker
      @lukestrawwalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffreycoulter4095 Exactly... we were farmers... well still are but it's a sideshow now, can't make a living at it anymore. We sold cotton for 60 cents a pound back in the 70's... when I quit farming cotton in 2003, I was STILL getting 60 cents a pound on average! Meanwhile fertilizer went from $60/ton in the early 70's to $160/ton by the late 80's when I was in high school, to $350/ton in the late 90's to $1,500 a ton this year. Seed went from $8/bag in the 70's to $45/bag in the 80's to $90bag in the 90's, now with transgenic (GMO's) it's more like $350/bag. Same for fuel and farm chemicals, parts and machinery, supplies and electric bills, and everything else it takes to live and work.
      Dad told me the story of his buddy who graduated a year ahead of him. He went to the bank and borrowed $200, and rented a 20 acre field, then bought the seed, chemicals, and fertilizer he needed to put in a cotton crop. He borrowed his old man's tractor and implements, and worked up the field, planted the crop, and borrowed the cotton picker and picked it in the late summer. He hauled his cotton to the gin, got his warehouse receipts, and then sold the cotton to a buyer. He paid his old man for his fuel and some extra "rent" on the tractor and picker and implements, paid off his $200 bank loan, and went and bought a BRAND SPANKING NEW gold 1964 Ford pickup truck, and STILL had enough money left over to live on for the winter and put in next year's crop... OFF 20 ACRES... He paid cash for the pickup and STILL had money to live on... now you couldn't afford to do that farming 2,000 acres... maybe 20,000 acres, MAYBE... He and Dad went to see the Bond film "Goldfinger" at the theater a couple weeks later, and they felt like kings...
      We had to quit cotton and row crops 20 years ago, because it's just a rich man's game-- that or work like a dog and be slave to the banker... my BIL farms corn and soybeans in Indiana and barely makes ends meet... he and his wife have to work second jobs just to keep food on the table and the lights on in the house-- the farming barely pays for itself anymore, and he's a good farmer... it's just ridiculous. We switched to all cow/calf beef cattle on our farms because we were making more money doing that for about 20% the costs and 10% of the labor of farming crops... didn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out! Now the gubmint wants to put all the livestock growers out of business because of environmental stupidity, so Bill Gates can make you all eat bugs he'll sell you for beef prices...
      Sick world we live in...

  • @gleanerk
    @gleanerk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @stephenheath8465
    @stephenheath8465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The glory days of the Pacific Fruit Express before the interstate highways and trucks

    • @ecleveland1
      @ecleveland1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The glory days of America.

  • @gonebamboo4116
    @gonebamboo4116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Goog golly!
    Makes me hungry

  • @lm6817
    @lm6817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All the old timers talk about the carrot cars stuffed with ice

  • @Acer_Maximinus
    @Acer_Maximinus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    21:10 These guys killed all the bees.

  • @thomasburke7995
    @thomasburke7995 ปีที่แล้ว

    This really shows how far farming tech has advanced over the last 60 plus years.. but other than the freezer car itself the railway system still get fresh produce to the eastern cities ontime

  • @azmike1
    @azmike1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    We need to go back to the way we did things then. Do you see how the workers dressed? With pride and dignity. Even grocery shoppers were classy. What happened?

    • @davidyoung5114
      @davidyoung5114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think what happened was called 'The Sixties'!

    • @gunfuego
      @gunfuego 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Traditional Morals and Values were loosened to the point many people have neither. It's unfortunate cause that's exactly what we need...

    • @jagboy69
      @jagboy69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@gunfuego My grandmother said the world needs ditch diggers too! Few people have pride in what they do today, instead they feel their jobs are beneath them. :-(

    • @jeffreycoulter4095
      @jeffreycoulter4095 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jagboy69 we must of had the same grandmother

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Technology happened, and made the world 'better'.

  • @nickmad887
    @nickmad887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks

  • @vancepomerening4794
    @vancepomerening4794 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks like a lot of the farm footage was shot in Idaho and Utah, except for the lettuce scenes and a few others that look like the Salinas Valley in California.

  • @jeffreycoulter4095
    @jeffreycoulter4095 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wish I had the culls, I could feed a hundred thousand chickens on what got thrown out.

    • @iant419
      @iant419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's exactly what they did with it.

  • @tommyd4018
    @tommyd4018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this makes me proud to be american

  • @chillydawgg4354
    @chillydawgg4354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ve-ge-tables

  • @rob37greenbike
    @rob37greenbike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wood crates and paper packages. What a concept. Who decided we need to triple pack in plastic..

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Capitalists. When you can package something cheaper (and make it last longer, and sell it more and farther away), that's what a capitalist will do. Every system gets ruined in the long run, as it gets optimized to death by capitalism, at the expense of the environment and other things.

    • @lukestrawwalker
      @lukestrawwalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andybaldman Yep and when you can splice fish genes into a tomato that is bred to be rock-hard and sustain less damage in shipping, you reduce culls/throwaway of damaged produce and thus INCREASE PROFITS. Greed is what's ruined everything...

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lukestrawwalker Yeah, and we all get to eat bland, rock-hard tomatoes, so some corporation can make more money, and we can have a shittier experience. You may not have noticed, but that's happening to most products around you today. Everything is being made cheaper, and marketed to make you think they're better. But they're only better for the bottom line of the corporation making them.

    • @lukestrawwalker
      @lukestrawwalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andybaldman yep

  • @TsmithJustin
    @TsmithJustin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just think, this nostalgic film has recorded our terrible farming practices for posterity. We traded convenience for sub par processed food. I admire what these farmers were able to do for our country at the time, but it hasn't aged well.

    • @lukestrawwalker
      @lukestrawwalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't gripe about "terrible farming practices" with your mouth full...

  • @bboomer1948
    @bboomer1948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quite a demographic change in that lettuce packing warehouse, compared to those working in the lettuce fields. Sixty years ago.

  • @Russ4704
    @Russ4704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you migrant workers.

    • @dannyluttrell5376
      @dannyluttrell5376 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes some where migrant worker some where not and then they we went back to Mexico after harvest was over or the President Dwight Eisenhower deported there ass back to Mexico!

  • @Sennmut
    @Sennmut 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And all the product of the Free Market!!! Go, Capitalism, go!!!!!!!

    • @jeffreycoulter4095
      @jeffreycoulter4095 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Such a dumb and naive thing to say.

    • @snowcelica001
      @snowcelica001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andybaldman You should go try Communism then. You sound like you might like it.......

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@snowcelica001 Are Capitalism and Communism the only two options?

  • @steveshepherd4879
    @steveshepherd4879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It would have been more persuasive had the photographed grocery stores been those in the East, rather than stores in the West.

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why, and how do you know they were in the West?

  • @johnpsymqepdfq8492
    @johnpsymqepdfq8492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All perishables now go by truck, at much faster speeds and lower costs, on the modern 70 mph+ interstate highway system. Imported perishables are flown long distances allowing Americans to enjoy summer fruit from the Southern Hemisphere in our winter months. All of this modern transportation infrastructure was created by the Central Planners in Washington DC, in order to improve the life-style of the American Consumer, and increase the mobility the America Citizen; which, of course, is unsurpassed ANYWHERE in the world.
    Central Planning WORKS. Without it, America wouldn't have led the world in transportation, weapons, food production, and suburban-living for the last SEVENTY years.

    • @lukestrawwalker
      @lukestrawwalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Faster speed perhaps since no stopovers, breaking/making trains to send various cars to various destinations in hump yards, etc, but it's come at a cost... trucking isn't very efficient... rubber tires on pavement generate a LOT of heat (walk up to a loaded semi that's just pulled off the road at a gas station and feel a tire-- they'll be SO HOT you can barely put your hand on them!) and all that heat comes from WASTED FUEL. Of course the more fuel wasted, the more "damage to the environment". Rail transport is STILL *THE* most efficient per ton-mile of cargo, because steel wheels on steel rails is highly efficient, low friction way of moving cargo. Once you overcome the inertia, it doesn't take anywhere NEAR as much energy to keep a rail car moving down a track, hence the greater efficiency. Air travel is the most fuel hungry but the fastest.
      It wasn't "central planning" that achieved anything-- it just developed that way because the oil companies were producing tons of diesel fuel (more than could be used) from refining gasoline for personal automobiles throughout the 50's and 60's, and trucking companies could offer "point to point" service where most railroads could only move entire railcars to a depot or distribution center/rail yard, where it had to be unloaded off railcars and put into trucks for final delivery to the store or wholesaler supplying grocery stores ANYWAY. Trucking cut out the middleman, one driver hauling a paltry 80,000 pounds, BUT he replaced a lot of loaders/forklift operators, a train crew, and got it there within a couple days using over-the-road trucking with team drivers and sleeper compartments in the trucks, directly to the end user (store). With a reefer truck, no need for stopping and icing cars or blowing shaved ice in on boxes of produce, either. Just diesel up the reefer tank when you fuel up the truck, and keep going. It so happened to work out that the stores preferred trucks, the oil companies then had a ready buyer for diesel for trucks (and trucks use more of it than trains per ton/mile) and the railroads lost business, put a lot of people like stevedores and loaders and icers and other workmen out of work, and cut their costs, and focused on bulk shipment of materials like coal, oil, steel, sand, gravel, grain, plastic pellets, and other bulk goods shipped in huge quantities where the efficiency of rail travel gave them a competitive cost advantage, when time wasn't as much of an issue for receiving bulk orders. Road-to-rail also popped up in the 60's and 70's, and was a thing for long distance transport of truck trailer loaded with products for the final destination, which were unloaded at regional depots and picked up by semi's that simply had to hook up and go and take the trailer to its final destination, then intermodal "con-ex" boxes rendered that mostly obsolete, as specialized railcars can 'double stack' intermodal boxes and so that and bulk is the railroad's main bread and butter nowadays. Trucking takes pretty much everything else because of the proliferation of the "just in time" production scheme that is currently in vogue in industry and retail... can't maintain a supply on hand in stock anymore-- that cuts into profits; who cares if it leaves the customer hanging or puts the company in a bind now that supply chain disruptions are the norm...
      Oh well, back to the drawing board... OL J R :)

  • @abandonedcranium6592
    @abandonedcranium6592 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My canal is blocked sometimes but fruits and vegetables seem to help.

  • @Ctrl-XYZ
    @Ctrl-XYZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This film is from 1955, not 1958. It uses lot of stock footage from around 1950.

  • @azmike1
    @azmike1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh how much more healthier we were then. The quality. The conscientious worker. The systems were so much better then. What happened?

    • @lookingforonetruechristian7396
      @lookingforonetruechristian7396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No...that was 1958. Life expectancy was 69.66 years. The life expectancy in 2020 is 78.93 years. So no...we weren't healthier in 1958.

    • @jeffreycoulter4095
      @jeffreycoulter4095 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lookingforonetruechristian7396 Really? People today are living in poverty longer,eating garbage foods from fast food restaurants. The only difference is the medical establishment prolongs your suffering as they perform "treatment ". In reality, during George Washington day, people routinely lived into their 70's. Foods were better and fresher in 1958. Unless you lived through it, its impossible for you to understand.

    • @urbanplanner7200
      @urbanplanner7200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lookingforonetruechristian7396 quantity < quality.

    • @azmike1
      @azmike1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lookingforonetruechristian7396 Now wait a minute. America just didn't have the medicines and surgical breakthroughs then. People were not obese. But if one got appendicitis, it was a grave risk to have surgery.

    • @richmanwisco
      @richmanwisco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jeffreycoulter4095 Ah, the "argument from old age" logical fallacy. People back then also listened when they were told about the benefits of vaccines against polio, smallpox and measles. Today they don't, which is why life expectancy has decreased over the last 10 years. But what do I know, I only "lived through it".

  • @satanofficial3902
    @satanofficial3902 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reefers can lead to reefer madness.

  • @timpriddy349
    @timpriddy349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    vej-uhh-tabelllllllll

  • @seanlorber9275
    @seanlorber9275 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How come they don't show shaking out the dead bugs after they suffocate them in the vacuum?

  • @lukestrawwalker
    @lukestrawwalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should still be showing these movies in schools... maybe then we wouldn't have so many morons running around saying how farmers aren't needed, since they buy THEIR food from the grocery store, as if it magically just appears there... Later! OL J R :)

  • @ericdaniel7069
    @ericdaniel7069 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vege-tables

  • @oldschooljack3479
    @oldschooljack3479 ปีที่แล้ว

    This entire network is crumbling before our eyes... The system is crashing by orchestration due to the machinations of a corrupt and power-hungry few.
    In one or two generations people will marvel at how this once worked.

  • @godoftheinterwebz
    @godoftheinterwebz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Two rows of girls" I feminists never see this

  • @markfrench8892
    @markfrench8892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great film, but I thought tomatoes were a fruit.

  • @vancepomerening4794
    @vancepomerening4794 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:19 Note the notorious short handled hoes.

  • @rodneydaub3812
    @rodneydaub3812 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now it's all grown in China

    • @belarusian8380
      @belarusian8380 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not very smart, are ya? 😂

  • @terawattz
    @terawattz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good video ruined by ad's, these videos never used to be infested with pointless ad's, now they are not worth watching due to the constant interuptions

  • @clearingbaffles
    @clearingbaffles 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So many ways to transfer Coronavirus!!

  • @simonhough
    @simonhough 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how come most of the biggest fat animals on this earth eat nothing but vegetables

  • @ArmpitStudios
    @ArmpitStudios ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Weird looking huge, thick asparagus.

  • @ArmpitStudios
    @ArmpitStudios ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, such great looking tractors. Dig those Olivers! So much cooler than today's plastiblobs.