My prayer for this situation is that the people of God would cover the victims in prayer and that prayers would go out for the offender to fall before his God and seek His humility and strength to overcome this evil. We, as brothers and sisters in Christ from around the world, must remember forgiveness; we must, or the devil wins on yet another level. Forgiveness does not mean forgetting, forgiveness is the antidote for a hardened heart. I pray for IHOPKC during this difficult time. I pray for strength for everyone wounded or affected by this and that God be your wisdom and strength. Prayers from Canada. God bless.
Cried thru so parts of this. For Tracey for myself for others. Didn’t realize how much I was running from/stuffing. Perfect timing. Blessings to you Tracey - thank you for your courage to share your heart and life to help other hearts. (Selfishly mine and with hope yours and others)
Thank you Tracy. This is soooo good for any and every hurt and offense in every relationship. We do tend to go right over the top of why we are feeling what we are feeling...no clue why we are angry and even oblivious that we are angry, depressed, disappointed. There are so many opportunities for offense and when we don't deal with them we become bitter, hard, mean, just like the Pharisees. Religious hypocrites all about outward appearance while the inside is full of dead men's bone. We murdered them with our thoughts, words and tongues. Thank you for your transparency. I love listening to you. This is the third time I have listened this TH-cam video.❤ Keep up the good work. I love your book about bitter roots as well.
“Disappointment” is an understatement, imo. Processing fallout from a spiritual and emotional bombshell -that seems more appropriate. Too bad Mike is not up there addressing the audience instead of his sister. I think if he had publicly and humbly repented (a la Jimmy Swaggart) it may have lessened the damage among his followers.
This is the first time I have heard Tracy Bickle preach. What a helpful and thought provoking message with some simple but very helpful spiritual nuggets in there. I will start listening to more of Tracys teachings especially on this subject.
As someone who has been through a church situation eerily similar I’m sending my thoughts, prayers and hugs to each member of this body. Protection and justice for the faithful flock.🙏🏼
James 5 has direction of how the mature Church helps us when we are sick. When we think of sickness we may think of a physical condition but our ailement can be in our spirit as well. The remedy is to call for the elders and the prayer of faith will raise up the afflicted, Sadly today, there very few who qualify as elders as this passage prescribes.
Don't think so. The whole body of Christ there at IHOP and Forerunner have reckoned, are reckoning with it all... it's all about Jesus, serving Him only. @@AmericanDreamAlbum
@@mikemonahan6720 but have they reckoned all of the property in Bickles name? All the donors who were friends of Bickle? The fact that Bickle has passwords to the bank accounts etc? As I said… Bickle will always have a hand on the ministry.
1 corinthians 5:11 "But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is a sexually immoral person, or a greedy person, or an idolater, or is verbally abusive, or habitually drunk, or a swindler-not even to eat with such a person." 2 Peter 2:3 "In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping" Acts 20:29-31 " I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and DISTORT THE TRUTH in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears." 1 John 4:5-6 " They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us.(only the apostles & prophets in the Bible!) This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood" Colossians 2:18 "Take care that no one keeps defrauding you of your prize by delighting in humility and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind, " 2 Timothy :13-17 "while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 " For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed THE TRUTH but have delighted in wickedness." John 17:17 "Sanctify them in the TRUTH; Your WORD is Truth" John 6:63 "The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you-they are full of the SPIRIT and life." 2 Thessalonians 2:15 "So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter."
I believe the bitter root (and the Greek for bitter in this sense indicates a hatred or wickedness) is a root which grows from an individual and defiles people in the congregation. It’s a type of hateful mindset that distorts the perceptions of the people they influence. The fruit of the bitter root is a congregation that abandons grace and forgets the mercy and love that they ought to be walking in to glorify God in thanksgiving.
Let’s navigate by praying the words of 1 Timothy 5:19, which remind us of the importance of EVIDENCE and multiple witnesses when ACCUSATIONS are made. Finally, Lord, we pray for your divine wisdom to prevail in all matters of accusation and conflict. May your truth be revealed, and may justice be served, bringing healing and restoration to all those involved. In the name of Jesus, our Savior, we pray. Amen.
@@Ikdgnot I don’t imagine the word of God was implying no concern for the victims nor was I..but the Word does implore there’s importance of evidence. Because I’m sure if somebody made an accusation against you, you would want to say show me the evidence. I’m not saying it’s false accusations but evidence is what the word of God encourages us to bring forward. Unless you want to be like the accuser and shoot off anything to tear someone down 💁🏻♂️
Don’t forget people that David Committed adultery and murder and God Still Said he was a Man after his own heart and used him mightily ❤God had grace after disciplining him
@@denetrodriguez5432 Amen ! It always amazes me how quick people judge disassociate with shame & shun.. and then still quote scripture of men who did worse things I’m surprised they even still read the Bible. I think we should all just drop our rocks and be grateful for the grace and mercy God has given each of us.
So she doesnt have the right to process what happened because the now victims come first? She is also a victim and has the right to speak...to process....to cry....to doubt etc...........
They are not "survivors." They are not "victims." They chose to participate in the shenanigans. And now they accuse someone and refuse to say who the hell they are. If someone accused you of something, wouldn't you want to know who they are? Of course! But somehow Mike has lost his Constitutional right to know who accuses him.
She said at the beginning that she can only speak about her own heart and whats going on from her position. As far as these things are concerned, anyone who has been close to or associated with this situation feels victimized. All. She's doing out in front of everyone, only what she can, and only what she knows to do. It's not gaslighting. It's messy. She's sharing some of her part of the mess. She's sharing from her heart, that is shattered right now, like so many others' hearts. She's walking with you all, with them all, through this trauma.
The degree to which we can be offended by others is directly related to how dead we are IN Christ. If I have been crucified with Christ and it is no longer I who live but Christ, what on earth can I be offended by. Consider the great offence WE ALL heaped upon Jesus .............. now tell me what right do I have to be offended. Much of what is said here, shows how much soul still lives in the church.
@@jimorsheryl So you really can't relate it to someone or specific event as an adult can. You don't remember all the traumatic events so it's a deeper system to sort out. Holy Spirit has to help as trauma breaks your heart ❤️ into millions of pieces.
Sad to hear many not seeing the heart of this woman who is transparent in her vulnerability of pain. You need to do “you” in a way that pleases God. Being angry and sinning not takes practice and some of us need to practice and “go home and rest”. Staying angry is not helping you. Yes there is MESS! Navigating mess is messy but good if we can see how God is using the mess to not just deal with MB and victims but ALL of the Body to grow past this tragedy. Go back and ask God, is God speaking TRUTH in this message We as a Body need to act upon and process. Part of our journey through dying to ultimately live and preparing for the next steps God has in equipping and preparing HIS BRIDE. I want to look into areas of MY life that can navigate through harsh disappointments and forgive. God will deal with stiff necks as God shows in Cain’s journey, he chose to not deal with and turned away from his promises. God’s job not mine. I choose to deal with me right now and this message was refreshing. Sorry if this message touching my heart disappoints anyone.
I respectfully disagree. This message is exactly what I needed to hear. She is being so transparent and honest. This message is helping many like me to help navigate during this time. As she stated we need to let those in charge do what they need to do. We need to focus on where we are at. Are we navigating this well? Are we trusting the Lord to reveal all truth, bring healing to all involved, and help us to heal from the disappointment we have experienced? Will this experience leave us in a place where we can help others who will face this situation in the future? There is nothing new under the sun. So many of our brethren are dealing with the same type of situation, but not in a large scale nationally known fellowship. These brethren need this message and our message how to navigate through and not loose our faith😊❤️
This was good. We so badly need to learn how to "posture our heart." As love grows cold, offense and betrayal arises... we must respond with the heart of Jesus. Jesus, teach us. Teach us how to "posture our hearts." Good word Tracy. Blessings to you :-)
So right on! Out of the fullness of the heart the mouth speaks. And what comes out of the mouth defiles. Turn! Jesus turned away and left the Pharisees and Sadducees but the disciples got infected and started arguing. Mt. 16:4.
It is pity whatever happened but I pray peace and love to cover all the wounded hearts. I also ask both parties to confess the truth of the matter and say sorry then ask for forgiveness and let the devil be silenced and and our heavenly Father be glorified. From missionary David charles Okurut IHOP Tororo Uganda 🇺🇬
In all do respect.....I am more Interested in the Journey Of Healing for the Victims of the Sexual Harassment! You have Every Right to try to Flip the Script.....but personally.....I ain't Interested Right Now!
@@jahkeyblair9093 You keep saying If the Allegations Are True: The Man Already Confessed to the Sexual Allegations! This is becoming like the Clinton/Monica scenerio! ! Like not actually Fornicating gives him a loop hole for innocence? I feel for his daughter....but She is Not A Victim! These young women in the church Are! Look....I know you have probably invested you life in IHOP.....but the ministry is Not built on the Inspired, Innerrant, Infallible Sola Scriptura, Sola, Fidi, Sola Christi, Sola Gratia Word of God! Bad Doctrine Always leads to Bad Behavior! You Can Not build a Christian Ministry on Gnostism, Esotericism, Mysticism, New Age, New Thought, More than Borderline Occult Practice! What you have here is the Result! Wild Bill Johnson, and Kriss Kross Vallaton at BethHell are on this Same Unbiblical Track! Fall in love with Jesus, Thru His Word, and the Anointing of the Holy Spirit On His Word!!
I only just read Cain and Able...like two weeks ago. Now I can see the counseling session. Awesome. As for frigid cold killing bugs. If I remember right, Alaska and Canada have mosquitos which can be saddled and ridden.
Victim mentality coming out clearly. So sad. She is using herself to project what and how others should be thinking and acting… and this isn’t a Bible teaching, it’s more like an emotional manipulation of the listeners. Dangerous woman. Beware. Praying for the people to wake up.
She is a person, she is not without feelings in all of this. God is interested in all parties, every single part. Even in justice, don't throw away the fruits of the Spirit.
Thank you Tracy for your honesty in sharing your feelings and helping me navigate my alignment with God’s will. Blessings to you and your loved ones!!❤
Interestingly orchestrated. Laughable that the ELT accused members of the Advocacy Group are intent on taking Mike’s position. I don’t see any of those godly individuals on the stage. But who do we see? Mike’s sister. So who wants to assume Mike’s role?
Nowhere in the Bible does it quote that when trouble Springs up in a person that they share it around.? She's already off into sharing things that are not scriptural based. When she first quoted chapter 12 verse 15 out of context somebody should have stood up and said no! that's wrong. And that's why IHOP is in trouble today because nobody was held accountable for false teaching.
She is exercising Authority right now over the men in that congregation. Paul the Apostle received the word from the Lord which is in Corinthians that says she should not be doing that. It has nothing to do with intelligence it has to do with what God has ordained. She's telling stories instead of teaching out of the word of God the scriptures
Don't care what kind of song & dance they put on. That's exactly what this is.- a song & dance from people refusing to see their ship is sunk. Rally to the cause sis . There's millions at stake .. People who refuse to see that have chosen their delusion.
GRACE is unmerited favor we receive from God through faith. Not mercy. She said mercy was unmerited favor. She got them mixed up. Mercy means God does NOT give us what we deserve. We deserve death, but He gives us mercy. Grace means God does give us what we DON’T deserve.
@@Whatever45302Scripture says the prophetic is only "in part." It's only what He wants a person to know. The most prophetic person could walk up to a random stranger and not know the intricate details of the person's life if the Lord didn't want to tell the prophetic person. It's up to the Lord, no one else and He gave Mike ample opportunity to repent. Mike resisted those opportunities, so here we are.
"Cra, cra" is NOT a way to start a teaching.....smh If you say we don't want to know how you're dealing with this then why do you waste our time telling us how to deal with this? Smh This was not the person to speak at this time and season. Smh
Number one right out of the Starting Gate she brings up Hebrews 12:15 and quotes it incorrectly. why don't you just read the verse as it is? Just read the verse as it is and don't add anything to it. I don't think you rightly divided that word of Truth.
I haven't listened to this all ,but it is clear that when people are led by there flesh nature, rather than putting NO confidence in there flesh and believe what the Bible days ,that those who are Born again, are crucified with Christ, and are a new creation, and put no confidence in there flesh as it is at war with your new nature ,is why Paul said. I die daily to my natural flesh desires , and forget what is in the past ,and walk and judge yourself by God's word, when you lie, walk in any sin , your being controlled by your sin nature, that it's absolutely sinful ,all humans, so being mad shocked , is because you still believe we're good of our flesh, but it never is never will be , in any one of us , Christian, or non Christian, works based Christianity, always leads to living hypocritically ,because all flesh is evil, or live to please its sin nature, Even Jesus said Why do you call me good ? Only God is Good, Jesus is God, and only Jesus in us is good, and He works His goodness in us, for it is God at work within us both to Will ,in us His will, and to Do in us His will, lest we boast , only our new life in us that Christ is working in us ,is good, true,Right theology is so important , NO Flesh can please God, you can pray 24-7 but it cannot please God ,ONLY JESUS PLEASES GOD, AND HIS SONS WORK IN US . HIS YOKE IS EASY AND HIS BURDEN IS LIGHT,WHY? BECAUSE CHRIST ,HOLY SPIRIT DIES IT IN US WHO BELIEVE, REMAIN ,ABIDE IN CHRIST THROUGH FAITH,(OUR WORK) LEST ANY ,MAN OR WOMAN BOAST.LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIER. YOUR FLESH IS DEAD ,DONT TRY TO RESSURECT IT AND TRUST IT WANTS TO OBEY, AS IT DONT WANT TO. TRUST JESUS ONLY IN HIM ALONE IS FREEDOM, FORGIVENESS, AND NEW LIFE.THE OLD IS GONE THE NEW HAS COME, AMEN & HALLELUIA.
First thing you people need to do is to stop calling Kurt Fuller 'General'. His name is Kurt and he is retired. He is no longer a general. No one calls any of the rest of us by our military ranks. Stop it! It isn't right.
@@Browningmjb I realize you think it is honorable. But being a retired military man myself, I know it isn't right. And I can damn sure guarantee you, HE is uncomfortable with it because HE knows it isn't right, too.
We have to do us so that we can do what God want us to do the way He want us to do it. We have to do us to fulfill the 2nd commandment: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
I have been marinating after watching this to make sure not to post a knee jerk reaction. However, my feelings haven't changed. I love ihop and understand she is part of community, but whomever made this decision has not wisdom. This was done, in worse case, arrogance, or best, poor taste/ignorance. :(
Nope...If you really want the truth then hire a truly independant investigator... its as simple as that. the community has not bought in and they do not trust you.
@@Mn_comics He is probably referring to 1 Tim 2:12, where Paul says, "I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet." So, it can probably be argued that just because Paul didn't allow it does not mean we are not to allow it. Secondly, Tracy is not exercising authority over anyone. She is merely preaching a message. She is not the head of IHOP, so she has no authority over any of the listeners.
Sadly one thing I'm reading from the comments is that there are a lot of embittered people who for some reason are still following stories they don't approve of then are uncharitably spewing out their disgust instead of just staying away. Humans are peculiar creatures...🤔
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My prayer for this situation is that the people of God would cover the victims in prayer and that prayers would go out for the offender to fall before his God and seek His humility and strength to overcome this evil. We, as brothers and sisters in Christ from around the world, must remember forgiveness; we must, or the devil wins on yet another level. Forgiveness does not mean forgetting, forgiveness is the antidote for a hardened heart. I pray for IHOPKC during this difficult time. I pray for strength for everyone wounded or affected by this and that God be your wisdom and strength. Prayers from Canada. God bless.
Cried thru so parts of this. For Tracey for myself for others. Didn’t realize how much I was running from/stuffing. Perfect timing. Blessings to you Tracey - thank you for your courage to share your heart and life to help other hearts. (Selfishly mine and with hope yours and others)
One of the best message on the subject of how to manage, navigate our heart in the midst of our own problems. Thank you so much! 🙏❤
Thank you Tracy. This is soooo good for any and every hurt and offense in every relationship. We do tend to go right over the top of why we are feeling what we are feeling...no clue why we are angry and even oblivious that we are angry, depressed, disappointed. There are so many opportunities for offense and when we don't deal with them we become bitter, hard, mean, just like the Pharisees. Religious hypocrites all about outward appearance while the inside is full of dead men's bone. We murdered them with our thoughts, words and tongues. Thank you for your transparency. I love listening to you. This is the third time I have listened this TH-cam video.❤ Keep up the good work. I love your book about bitter roots as well.
Thank you Tracey, I can only imagine how tough all this is for you and your family...we are praying for you all, blessings from Australia.
“Disappointment” is an understatement, imo. Processing fallout from a spiritual and emotional bombshell -that seems more appropriate. Too bad Mike is not up there addressing the audience instead of his sister. I think if he had publicly and humbly repented (a la Jimmy Swaggart) it may have lessened the damage among his followers.
Absolutely
Why do ppl come here to watch and just comment negatively? Don’t you have better things to do with your time?
I am so bummed the video stopped at the end, right before your prayer! This was a very convicting sermon. Thank you, Tracy!!! ❤️
We love you and are praying for each of you. God bless the Bickle family. Lord show us what You want us to see.
Amen to your prayers
Wow!!! What a Wonderfull GOD we are serving. Thanks Tracy
Delusional
We love and pray for you all.
Powerful and appropriate sermon. Thank you for your vulnerability and faithfulness. Thank you for sharing. I was encouraged in my own faith in Christ!
You’re delusional. She doesn’t even know what grace is 😂
This is the first time I have heard Tracy Bickle preach. What a helpful and thought provoking message with some simple but very helpful spiritual nuggets in there. I will start listening to more of Tracys teachings especially on this subject.
As someone who has been through a church situation eerily similar I’m sending my thoughts, prayers and hugs to each member of this body. Protection and justice for the faithful flock.🙏🏼
James 5 has direction of how the mature Church helps us when we are sick. When we think of sickness we may think of a physical condition but our ailement can be in our spirit as well. The remedy is to call for the elders and the prayer of faith will raise up the afflicted, Sadly today, there very few who qualify as elders as this passage prescribes.
Such brilliance... what a brilliant message in this time. Love to you and your entire family from Houston.
IHOP will never not be the Bickle Family.
why? what is their status quo
@@mgh926the Bickle family will always control it in some way
Ya and that's weird
Don't think so. The whole body of Christ there at IHOP and Forerunner have reckoned, are reckoning with it all... it's all about Jesus, serving Him only. @@AmericanDreamAlbum
@@mikemonahan6720 but have they reckoned all of the property in Bickles name? All the donors who were friends of Bickle? The fact that Bickle has passwords to the bank accounts etc? As I said… Bickle will always have a hand on the ministry.
1 corinthians 5:11
"But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is a sexually immoral person, or a greedy person, or an idolater, or is verbally abusive, or habitually drunk, or a swindler-not even to eat with such a person."
2 Peter 2:3
"In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping"
Acts 20:29-31
" I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and DISTORT THE TRUTH in order to draw away disciples after them.
So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears."
1 John 4:5-6
" They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them.
We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us.(only the apostles & prophets in the Bible!)
This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood"
Colossians 2:18
"Take care that no one keeps defrauding you of your prize by delighting in humility and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind, "
2 Timothy :13-17
"while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
" For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed THE TRUTH but have delighted in wickedness."
John 17:17
"Sanctify them in the TRUTH; Your WORD is Truth"
John 6:63
"The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you-they are full of the SPIRIT and life."
2 Thessalonians 2:15
"So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter."
❤ amazing
I believe the bitter root (and the Greek for bitter in this sense indicates a hatred or wickedness) is a root which grows from an individual and defiles people in the congregation. It’s a type of hateful mindset that distorts the perceptions of the people they influence. The fruit of the bitter root is a congregation that abandons grace and forgets the mercy and love that they ought to be walking in to glorify God in thanksgiving.
Let’s navigate by praying the words of 1 Timothy 5:19, which remind us of the importance of EVIDENCE and multiple witnesses when ACCUSATIONS are made.
Finally, Lord, we pray for your divine wisdom to prevail in all matters of accusation and conflict. May your truth be revealed, and may justice be served, bringing healing and restoration to all those involved. In the name of Jesus, our Savior, we pray. Amen.
Amen and Amen 🙏🏾
No concern for the victims I see only for,the accused. What about sin done in secret when there were no witnesses?
@@Ikdgnot I don’t imagine the word of God was implying no concern for the victims nor was I..but the Word does implore there’s importance of evidence. Because I’m sure if somebody made an accusation against you, you would want to say show me the evidence. I’m not saying it’s false accusations but evidence is what the word of God encourages us to bring forward. Unless you want to be like the accuser and shoot off anything to tear someone down 💁🏻♂️
Don’t forget people that David Committed adultery and murder and God Still Said he was a Man after his own heart and used him mightily ❤God had grace after disciplining him
@@denetrodriguez5432 Amen ! It always amazes me how quick people judge disassociate with shame & shun.. and then still quote scripture of men who did worse things I’m surprised they even still read the Bible.
I think we should all just drop our rocks and be grateful for the grace and mercy God has given each of us.
that is a powerful teaching , very applicable in my life
Thank you for sharing your heart, your voice and history bring wisdom in this time. May our hearts be opened to hear.
All about you, you, you. No concern for the survivors
Actually the body at whole are also the survivors that need to be ministered to!
So she doesnt have the right to process what happened because the now victims come first? She is also a victim and has the right to speak...to process....to cry....to doubt etc...........
They are not "survivors." They are not "victims." They chose to participate in the shenanigans. And now they accuse someone and refuse to say who the hell they are. If someone accused you of something, wouldn't you want to know who they are? Of course! But somehow Mike has lost his Constitutional right to know who accuses him.
She said at the beginning that she can only speak about her own heart and whats going on from her position. As far as these things are concerned, anyone who has been close to or associated with this situation feels victimized. All. She's doing out in front of everyone, only what she can, and only what she knows to do. It's not gaslighting. It's messy. She's sharing some of her part of the mess. She's sharing from her heart, that is shattered right now, like so many others' hearts. She's walking with you all, with them all, through this trauma.
@@lalabarboza8246I can guarantee she knew what was going on and she was an enabler l, just give it time and it’ll all come out
Great Message
Thank you Tracy 🔥🙏
The degree to which we can be offended by others is directly related to how dead we are IN Christ. If I have been crucified with Christ and it is no longer I who live but Christ, what on earth can I be offended by. Consider the great offence WE ALL heaped upon Jesus .............. now tell me what right do I have to be offended. Much of what is said here, shows how much soul still lives in the church.
uhh, yeah sure buddy
True. But many have bitter roots from child trauma when we didn't understand how to process the pain it builds. 💔
@@berealrb1496 none of that goes beyond the Cross
@@jimorsheryl It's just different. Its a root system with rootlets.
@@jimorsheryl So you really can't relate it to someone or specific event as an adult can. You don't remember all the traumatic events so it's a deeper system to sort out. Holy Spirit has to help as trauma breaks your heart ❤️ into millions of pieces.
At this point, I’m shocked at the lack of wisdom in having Mike’s sister in the pulpit. She is not the one who we need to hear from right now.
Same
Objectively good inspirational message from Tracey. Will do all us good to follow it
Sad to hear many not seeing the heart of this woman who is transparent in her vulnerability of pain. You need to do “you” in a way that pleases God. Being angry and sinning not takes practice and some of us need to practice and “go home and rest”. Staying angry is not helping you. Yes there is MESS! Navigating mess is messy but good if we can see how God is using the mess to not just deal with MB and victims but ALL of the Body to grow past this tragedy. Go back and ask God, is God speaking TRUTH in this message We as a Body need to act upon and process. Part of our journey through dying to ultimately live and preparing for the next steps God has in equipping and preparing HIS BRIDE. I want to look into areas of MY life that can navigate through harsh disappointments and forgive. God will deal with stiff necks as God shows in Cain’s journey, he chose to not deal with and turned away from his promises. God’s job not mine. I choose to deal with me right now and this message was refreshing. Sorry if this message touching my heart disappoints anyone.
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I respectfully disagree. This message is exactly what I needed to hear. She is being so transparent and honest. This message is helping many like me to help navigate during this time. As she stated we need to let those in charge do what they need to do. We need to focus on where we are at. Are we navigating this well? Are we trusting the Lord to reveal all truth, bring healing to all involved, and help us to heal from the disappointment we have experienced? Will this experience leave us in a place where we can help others who will face this situation in the future? There is nothing new under the sun. So many of our brethren are dealing with the same type of situation, but not in a large scale nationally known fellowship. These brethren need this message and our message how to navigate through and not loose our faith😊❤️
This was good. We so badly need to learn how to "posture our heart." As love grows cold, offense and betrayal arises... we must respond with the heart of Jesus. Jesus, teach us. Teach us how to "posture our hearts." Good word Tracy. Blessings to you :-)
Thanks so much for the great effort that you guys are doing to handle this very hard situation! We love you and pray for all of you!
You call the ELT’s obfuscation “great effort.” You really think they want the truth? Haven’t they not done anything unless forced?
I love Tracy Bickel! She’s the real deal❤
This is flat out truth from the Bible and powerful testimony straight from the reality of living in the world. Thank you Tracy!
Pfft. No. No, it isn’t. Putting her in the pulpit was tone deaf, at best.
So right on! Out of the fullness of the heart the mouth speaks. And what comes out of the mouth defiles. Turn! Jesus turned away and left the Pharisees and Sadducees but the disciples got infected and started arguing. Mt. 16:4.
Projection
Love Tracy Bickle’s teaching!❤
You’re precious Tracy. Thanks for your “Real.”
Hurt people hurt people. This woman needs to sit down immediately
It is pity whatever happened but I pray peace and love to cover all the wounded hearts. I also ask both parties to confess the truth of the matter and say sorry then ask for forgiveness and let the devil be silenced and and our heavenly Father be glorified. From missionary David charles Okurut IHOP Tororo Uganda 🇺🇬
Love MB and the family!!! So Thankful for all the teaching and service to the BOC....Praying!
In all do respect.....I am more Interested in the Journey Of Healing for the Victims of the Sexual Harassment! You have Every Right to try to Flip the Script.....but personally.....I ain't Interested Right Now!
If the allegations are true, wouldn't you consider her a victim as well?
@@jahkeyblair9093 You keep saying If the Allegations Are True: The Man Already Confessed to the Sexual Allegations! This is becoming like the Clinton/Monica scenerio! ! Like not actually Fornicating gives him a loop hole for innocence? I feel for his daughter....but She is Not A Victim! These young women in the church Are! Look....I know you have probably invested you life in IHOP.....but the ministry is Not built on the Inspired, Innerrant, Infallible Sola Scriptura, Sola, Fidi, Sola Christi, Sola Gratia Word of God! Bad Doctrine Always leads to Bad Behavior! You Can Not build a Christian Ministry on Gnostism, Esotericism, Mysticism, New Age, New Thought, More than Borderline Occult Practice! What you have here is the Result! Wild Bill Johnson, and Kriss Kross Vallaton at BethHell are on this Same Unbiblical Track! Fall in love with Jesus, Thru His Word, and the Anointing of the Holy Spirit On His Word!!
@bob - exactly !
@@Whatever45302 Thank You!
She was HR
Ironic that Tracey is the Pastor of Restoration and Recovery.
She's been through more crap than you have.
She is amazing. ❤
Evangelicals 🤢🤮
I only just read Cain and Able...like two weeks ago. Now I can see the counseling session. Awesome. As for frigid cold killing bugs. If I remember right, Alaska and Canada have mosquitos which can be saddled and ridden.
Stress response
Victim mentality coming out clearly. So sad.
She is using herself to project what and how others should be thinking and acting… and this isn’t a Bible teaching, it’s more like an emotional manipulation of the listeners.
Dangerous woman. Beware.
Praying for the people to wake up.
Amen
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She is a person, she is not without feelings in all of this. God is interested in all parties, every single part. Even in justice, don't throw away the fruits of the Spirit.
Emotional manipulation is not a fruit of the Spirit.@@isiakachiamaka7228
@@isiakachiamaka7228🤢🤮
Raw and sincere. May our Father, Yahweh, hold your heart in the palms of His loving hands.
You are so right on Tracy. You are hearing, this isn’t just happening here it is happening everywhere right now. And we need to ‘hear’ this message!
Great job Tracy. We will grow in Christ only if we examine ourselves with brutal honesty and transparency with God and others. ✝️🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️
wow, the audacity
Thank you Tracy for your honesty in sharing your feelings and helping me navigate my alignment with God’s will. Blessings to you and your loved ones!!❤
Thank you, Traci... blessings
Tracy, this has helped me so much…… Thank You
p.s. I’m not just saying that, my attitude has been ignore it maybe it’ll go away.
Interestingly orchestrated. Laughable that the ELT accused members of the Advocacy Group are intent on taking Mike’s position. I don’t see any of those godly individuals on the stage. But who do we see? Mike’s sister. So who wants to assume Mike’s role?
It’s all so disgusting
Why is she still allowed to preach at ihop.
Why not? She hasn't done anything wrong.
I don't know her personally but we aren't guilty for what our siblings do.
Nowhere in the Bible does it quote that when trouble Springs up in a person that they share it around.? She's already off into sharing things that are not scriptural based. When she first quoted chapter 12 verse 15 out of context somebody should have stood up and said no! that's wrong. And that's why IHOP is in trouble today because nobody was held accountable for false teaching.
She is exercising Authority right now over the men in that congregation. Paul the Apostle received the word from the Lord which is in Corinthians that says she should not be doing that. It has nothing to do with intelligence it has to do with what God has ordained. She's telling stories instead of teaching out of the word of God the scriptures
Good to have a Bickle behind the pulpit. Makes me examine me. God bless all the Saints at IHOPKC! ❤Zion 🔥
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Lol your sarcasm is very funny
Don't care what kind of song & dance they put on. That's exactly what this is.- a song & dance from people refusing to see their ship is sunk. Rally to the cause sis . There's millions at stake .. People who refuse to see that have chosen their delusion.
Seriously, you guys?
So good! Thank you Tracy!
GRACE is unmerited favor we receive from God through faith. Not mercy. She said mercy was unmerited favor. She got them mixed up. Mercy means God does NOT give us what we deserve. We deserve death, but He gives us mercy. Grace means God does give us what we DON’T deserve.
Are u really that shocked
This disgusting display was anything but a sermon..
Abhorrent
Enjoy the delusion of ihop
Thank you! Praying for your heart...praying for all. God has you
Definition of mercy and grace are wrong.
So did she supposedly not know anything or?
She was HR
Then she probably did
Wolves are sneaky. She may not have known her brother was a predator.
GREAT TEACHING THANK YOU TRACEY ❤❤
Sorry but this is not sanctified
The "pope" has spoken
How do you know, Elizabeth? Do you know what God is thinking?
No, but all these prophets say they know what God is saying why didn’t God show them about Mike if they had such a gift?
@@Whatever45302Scripture says the prophetic is only "in part." It's only what He wants a person to know. The most prophetic person could walk up to a random stranger and not know the intricate details of the person's life if the Lord didn't want to tell the prophetic person. It's up to the Lord, no one else and He gave Mike ample opportunity to repent. Mike resisted those opportunities, so here we are.
"Cra, cra" is NOT a way to start a teaching.....smh If you say we don't want to know how you're dealing with this then why do you waste our time telling us how to deal with this? Smh This was not the person to speak at this time and season. Smh
She's
Coo
&
Coo
Wow…brave lady….
All my respect! Go Tracey! Blessings,
Did mike write this
Number one right out of the Starting Gate she brings up Hebrews 12:15 and quotes it incorrectly. why don't you just read the verse as it is? Just read the verse as it is and don't add anything to it. I don't think you rightly divided that word of Truth.
Thank you for this,I really needed to be reminded of these things.
I haven't listened to this all ,but it is clear that when people are led by there flesh nature, rather than putting NO confidence in there flesh and believe what the Bible days ,that those who are Born again, are crucified with Christ, and are a new creation, and put no confidence in there flesh as it is at war with your new nature ,is why Paul said. I die daily to my natural flesh desires , and forget what is in the past ,and walk and judge yourself by God's word, when you lie, walk in any sin , your being controlled by your sin nature, that it's absolutely sinful ,all humans, so being mad shocked , is because you still believe we're good of our flesh, but it never is never will be , in any one of us , Christian, or non Christian, works based Christianity, always leads to living hypocritically ,because all flesh is evil, or live to please its sin nature, Even Jesus said Why do you call me good ? Only God is Good, Jesus is God, and only Jesus in us is good, and He works His goodness in us, for it is God at work within us both to Will ,in us His will, and to Do in us His will, lest we boast , only our new life in us that Christ is working in us ,is good, true,Right theology is so important , NO Flesh can please God, you can pray 24-7 but it cannot please God ,ONLY JESUS PLEASES GOD, AND HIS SONS WORK IN US . HIS YOKE IS EASY AND HIS BURDEN IS LIGHT,WHY? BECAUSE CHRIST ,HOLY SPIRIT DIES IT IN US WHO BELIEVE, REMAIN ,ABIDE IN CHRIST THROUGH FAITH,(OUR WORK) LEST ANY ,MAN OR WOMAN BOAST.LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIER. YOUR FLESH IS DEAD ,DONT TRY TO RESSURECT IT AND TRUST IT WANTS TO OBEY, AS IT DONT WANT TO. TRUST JESUS ONLY IN HIM ALONE IS FREEDOM, FORGIVENESS, AND NEW LIFE.THE OLD IS GONE THE NEW HAS COME, AMEN & HALLELUIA.
Tracy is gaslighting for sure
She was human resource - she handled all of this sleazy behavior
Absolutely! It makes sense she will try to protect her brother. Disgusting.
First thing you people need to do is to stop calling Kurt Fuller 'General'. His name is Kurt and he is retired. He is no longer a general. No one calls any of the rest of us by our military ranks. Stop it! It isn't right.
I think it’s admirable they honor a retired man’s merited achievement.
@@Browningmjb I realize you think it is honorable. But being a retired military man myself, I know it isn't right. And I can damn sure guarantee you, HE is uncomfortable with it because HE knows it isn't right, too.
The Defense Department allows retired military members to use their military titles socially and commercially.
Petty minded
@@margienielsen5939 You're a civilian. Of course you think so. You don't know any better.
Beautiful message. Thanks Tracy.
Seems like a Joyce Meyer sermon
Unbelievable
Stop talking in 3d person..
Can you translate this vide o for spanish?
¿Cómo estás? Debe haber manera. ¿No la entendiste?
Go to transcript and select all the script, and then put it into Google Translate in short sections.
Yes
its a short read
"An hour of self soothing flim flam word salad"
Translate it to english
I'm sure the victims are thrilled to see this. SMH.
Tracy needs to go...
Why? Are people hating her bcuz of her brothers sins? What did she do wrong?
Do you. 😢😢😢😢😢. The most self involved sermon ever. Poorly done and selfish. "For me" dramatics
It really wasn’t about how well she could teach. It appears to be a ploy of breaking a boundary and saying business as usual.
We have to do us so that we can do what God want us to do the way He want us to do it. We have to do us to fulfill the 2nd commandment: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
@@lalabarboza8246 THANK YOU!!!!!
Cult/cash cow is ☠️
Cults circle the wagons to protect their cult leader.
Thank you Tracey. 🙏
Powerful
I have been marinating after watching this to make sure not to post a knee jerk reaction. However, my feelings haven't changed. I love ihop and understand she is part of community, but whomever made this decision has not wisdom. This was done, in worse case, arrogance, or best, poor taste/ignorance. :(
Nope...If you really want the truth then hire a truly independant investigator... its as simple as that. the community has not bought in and they do not trust you.
They... they did...
They have.
Yep the independent investigator is family friends with the bickles
@@xristosdomini7249 no they have not.
@@Hip_hop_ataymuswho is the independent investigator? Do you know the name?
Despicable willful complicity
no
This wasn't even a sermon..it was a forced therapy session for an angry woman...she's disgusting@@Hal-k8p
Sleazy and slimy 🤢🤮
Another of the many problems with IHOP-women teaching over men. God is the God of HIS order, and He hasn't ordained that women teach over men.
She is simply preaching a message. She has no "authority" over you.
@@Hal-k8p argue with Scriptures. The Lord has spoken clearly regarding the roles for men and women.
Ya I don't see anywhere in the Bible that says women can't be public speakers. But it really shouldn't be her.
@@Mn_comics He is probably referring to 1 Tim 2:12, where Paul says, "I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet." So, it can probably be argued that just because Paul didn't allow it does not mean we are not to allow it. Secondly, Tracy is not exercising authority over anyone. She is merely preaching a message. She is not the head of IHOP, so she has no authority over any of the listeners.
Dude shut up
Sadly one thing I'm reading from the comments is that there are a lot of embittered people who for some reason are still following stories they don't approve of then are uncharitably spewing out their disgust instead of just staying away. Humans are peculiar creatures...🤔
Not the whole community.