Rosicrucian history goes back much farther in history than this video can provide, and is interwoven with other Orders. Rosenkruetz is a pseudonym for something much much deeper. I won't go into that here. But that is absolutely NOT what the Rose symbolizes. That's nonsense.
The must be the deepest "introductory" to Rosicrucianism I have ever hear, and I mean that as a compliment. Thank you so much Angela, this is amazing !!
You kindda reminded me why i became a rosicrucion many decades ago. There were important beliefs, lost to time, but now resurfacing. One thing, consider making this, and others like it, more simple or easier to follow. I got lost a few times and even though that is due to my own weaknesses, my instincts tell me you could even reach a young child if you wished. Enjoy!
@@drangelapuca you are nothing short of amazing with what you bring to the world of occult information. As I praise the wedge driven between esoteric truth and conspiracy entertainment . Academics like you , Justin , Dan Attrell , and religion for breakfast , and the like , I don't fear for the occult education of the generations to come . You guys are a strong foundation that can lead them to books , not just grimores but books about theology , philosophy , and metaphysics. Keep up the good work my dear.
This presentation is an affirmation I've needed to hear, it affirms that the natural practice which I've been attuned to since birth is all I need to know. Anything else other than this is a waste of my time. So I appreciate your efforts in this hidden message 🙏
Thank you so much Dr. Puca! I feel like I’ve encountered or run into Rosicrucians, their symbolism/literature multiple times throughout my life. I was so excited when I saw you were doing an episode on it. I’ve always been incredibly curious but was always pretty confused because I never really had any knowledge of the occult until recent years. Thank you for this video and this whole channel! It has been extremely educational and useful in learning about the occult from an academic resource. 💕💗
Awesome job. Rosicrucianism is one of those organizations that seem to provide an answer for every question. I don't jive with everything but I appreciate it
Such a lovely introduction. I’m here based on recommendation from both Dr. T. Sledge and Let’s Talk Religion, and true to my appreciation of their works, yours is also outstanding. I’m looking forward to watching more of your videos as time permits. Blessings & much Love. 🍃💙🍃💚🍃💛🍃
I started my day with you here, my friend, and the video put me into a pleasant mood. Rosicrucianism seems like the most wonderful and important thing to me, and you have had this thing out since January! 🤣 I find it interesting that you mentioned it is dependent not on any form of philosophy (but, instead on inner visions), while the people who were part of the order seemed like the best trained minds in philosophy! Well, thank you for making my day 😉
@@drangelapuca Right after your video I experienced a little magic. That being that I found and purchased the only copy of the following leather-bound book I could find (it looks like a collection) by Heinrich Khunrath: The "Amphitheatrum Sapientiae Aeternae, Solius Verae, Christiano-Kabalisticum, Divino-Magicum, nec non Physico-Chymicum, Tertriunum, Catholicon instructore Henrico Khunrath Lips: Theosophiae amatore fideli" (what a title) What a coincidence!
Another great video Angela , thank you for this beautiful presentation on the R.C. It meant alot to me , and you did a great job on this. I'm grateful to be in a position where I can follow and understand every word and I wouldn't add or take away anything in your explanation. Well done and condensed into a powerful set of facts relevant to the system as a whole and not the sum of its parts. And you've explained them perfectly as well lol. Thx again for summing up something that complex with a poetic style. And with you I always learn something I didn't know , even with this one. From the fama to the confessio to the wedding , I thought was Brilliant when I first heard about how they went about the explanations . And if it's meant for you to join us providence will bring us together lol. In my mind I could see the flyers on the walls , brilliant. 🌹✝️
Epic info, totally dovetails with my personal life experiences and revealed knowledge…! Headed to watch the Magus stream on this topic toot sweet! Thank u for all the hard work and clear presentation.
I like to think that the vertical arm of the cross represents religion, the horizontal arm science & the rose esotericism, the unfolding of the inner. The Fama doesn't mention Christian Rosenkreuz only C.R.
You mentioned some of it in your talk, but I would like to see a more detailed timeline starting with the esotericism Rosicrucianism developed from and then showing how it became the basis for modern esotericism.
My dear doctor Angela. I unabashedly am no Catholic. Though I admit to being a great admirer of their iconography, a respecter of their history & fascinated by the lore they've built within their church. Therefore, I profess, I'm sitting in front of *Our Lady of Perpetual Help chapel* in beautiful Manitou Springs, Colorado. I make mention of my location, not for personal gains, only so to express how this tourist trap of a town located in the foothills of Pikes Peak is one of greater loves in this life. That being said, on with the show!
I came up with a theory about the symbolism of the rose cross, that I haven't found elsewhere. I'm curious to hear your opinion. The planet Venus makes a 5 petal rose around the sun in an 8-year cycle, every time Venus, Earth, and the Sun align you can mark a point and it creates a pentagram, a parallel to the crucifixion as the 4 wounds of Christ and the spear jab on the side of by the Roman. Making a perfect pentagram around the sun. Now if you trace the entire pattern of venus it creates a 5 petaled rose as if the blood from his wounds (every time Earth Venus and the Sun align) spills onto the rose and it blossoms out of death on the cross.
Hello Angela! Thank you for this (and basically all you do). I was asked if I wanted to join the (modern) order some years ago while using their research library, but the time didn’t feel right. My studies were still more Thelemic leaning. I’d say I’ve learned more from this video than the hrs I spent in their facility, and the numerous pamphlets that were given I was wondering, what do you think of Paschal Beverly Randolph’s part in the history of the Rosicrucians? I was perplexed when I brought the name up to members of the order, and they didn’t know him at all (or, their response was more a weird stare back at me) Do you believe, like some say, that the true Rosicrucians are separate from the public entities bearing the name today? Thanks, again!
There are different groups that claim the Rosicrucian lineage, and SOME have aspects which are truly worth learning, if it's your cup of tea. Some don't have those worthwhile aspects, in my opinion, and a person could potentially be wasting their time for many years going down the wrong path, and thinking they're learning something worthwhile...but which is just a trinket, and not a method of legitimate spiritual development. It's good to know that the results you're getting are worthwhile and wholesome, rather than being fascinated by this or that esoteric teaching. It's surprising to hear that some members of a legitimate Rosicrucian order would be unaware of PB Randolph; it's nice that Deveney wrote a lengthy book on him, although according to some Rosicrucian groups, such a work may not contain all that there is to say about the man, and some parts might not be accurate.
Thank you Doctor for another great overview of one of the mystic lineages i use to have an interest in.made me realize despite what I thought i knew, i really have no idea other than a base knowledge of some of the group's symbolism. I hope you can do more on this subject in the future.
Angela your classes are enlightening through the mirror of history, now have you considered my modern times channeler Lee Carrol? He claims to channel an entity that picked the name "Kryon" for our language and time, I´d like you to know his material is free available online.
A fragmented soul is no joke folks .correct healing methods can reverse this.i truly feel sorry for those whom believe what's on the news is the truth ...be all and end all about life .miracles happen.quantam physics exist .and our ancestors new alot we don't ♥️have a fantastic weekend everyone
good stuff... As a practitioner I stil find it very confusing... what is the difference between Hermeticism and Rosicrucianism, or Martinism what about freemasonry? etc... It seems a lot of time we are just splitting hairs or that the differences are very subtle but sometimes those subtleties are very important. someone needs to make a grid or diagram to parse all this out.
I recently read "Wisdom of the Mystic Masters" by Joseph Weed. I'm curious to know how they came up with the concept of the Law of Cycles. Is it based on astrology?
Unfortunately if you can't see the difference without asking anyone else, then you'll never be truely tuned to the unknown in this lifetime. But it doesn't hurt to prepare your consciousness for the next time you reincarnate. Truth is to be tuned to the unknown, one has to realise it before the age age 3, independent of any other influence & acknowledge it as to whether you accept or reject what it is. if you don't do this before age 3 then you've missed it completely, universal fact! 🙏
Cara Dottoressa Angela. Ho appena scoperto il tuo canale. Che meraviglia 🙂. Ma, sai cosa vuol dire il tuo nome in Irlandese (Gaelico)? 😀. E un nome proprio giusto per te.
@@drangelapuca I was just wondering and I don't know either, but perhaps he was interested in the mystery aspects. Thanks for your video on the Rosicruicianism, it was very informative and I learned a lot.
I understood absolutely nothing haha. But that's on me. Some things are just impenetrable. At least for now. I've been getting more interested in the occult but this is just too deep a dive. On to the next one...
I don't really see why hermeticism seems to be so strongly linked with this movement, since as here's been said the manifestos claim an origin story going back to Adam, including Plato and Pythagoras, but they seem to skip on Hermes Trismegistus as owner of this sacred and secret knowledge. What makes it hermetic?
Hello all,blessed be.may I please address the symposium if I may?I'm not new to the topic but certainly nieve to many aspects.what does Thoth and Hermes mean to you all?am I asking the correct questions to advance my path♥️🙏
Most of the online Orders are rubbish. I belong to a few Druid Orders and I'm also a Freemason, sadly finding a legit Order in this tradition is very hard to find.
@@drangelapuca thank you for always making great content. Your information is always solid and reliable. Your academic approach is appreciated by those of us who value education over fluff.
Two more questions please 🙏 i know your a busy woman .have U heard of Lady Sabrina and our Lady of enchantment?my latest book is written by her 😊 wondering if it's a good option for basic knowledge advancement.also can runestone symbols be of use as a tattoo or only on the normal medium
According to one source I'm looking into, " _Soul_ is used to describe a person in premortal life---before birth..." Not arguing with you. I do not seek contrast or contention, merely offering some additional details for further discussion.
Soul and spirit in western esotericism come from two Greek words, Psyche and Pneuma. Psyche is like the cognitive self, incorporated into a body, while Pneuma or Breath is like the spirit stuff that everything is sort of grounded in, and in particular in humans represented their eternal connection the the divine.
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You absolutely missed out on Francis Bacon and John Dee as well as Edward Kelley
This is the moment i realized my daughters name, Rosalyn Thorn is going to have a very cool life.
Shit ok i will shut it
Rosicrucian history goes back much farther in history than this video can provide, and is interwoven with other Orders. Rosenkruetz is a pseudonym for something much much deeper. I won't go into that here. But that is absolutely NOT what the Rose symbolizes. That's nonsense.
Every time I think I'm moving on from my interest in the occult, the good doctor reels me back in.
Haha thanks 🤗
I am a voodoo High Priest from Haïti and I really appreciate you Dr Angela, you are awesome in your presentations
The must be the deepest "introductory" to Rosicrucianism I have ever hear, and I mean that as a compliment. Thank you so much Angela, this is amazing !!
You kindda reminded me why i became a rosicrucion many decades ago. There were important beliefs, lost to time, but now resurfacing.
One thing, consider making this, and others like it, more simple or easier to follow. I got lost a few times and even though that is due to my own weaknesses, my instincts tell me you could even reach a young child if you wished.
Enjoy!
thanks for sharing
Fantastic scholarship. Illuminating and compellingly delivered work. Fascinating stuff as always Doctor!
thank you
Beautiful, I'm glad I finally listened to Dr Sledge's advice and came to check your page out
Welcome aboard!
We have a wonderful community here!
And yes thank you to James Vitalli as well for commissioning this video. Im really glad you did , and like always she nailed it.
thanks
@@drangelapuca you are nothing short of amazing with what you bring to the world of occult information. As I praise the wedge driven between esoteric truth and conspiracy entertainment . Academics like you , Justin , Dan Attrell , and religion for breakfast , and the like , I don't fear for the occult education of the generations to come . You guys are a strong foundation that can lead them to books , not just grimores but books about theology , philosophy , and metaphysics. Keep up the good work my dear.
This presentation is an affirmation I've needed to hear, it affirms that the natural practice which I've been attuned to since birth is all I need to know. Anything else other than this is a waste of my time. So I appreciate your efforts in this hidden message 🙏
Thanks
@@drangelapuca welcome 👍
Let's all grow together, everyone has something to offer .so share it.i apologize for my abrasive introduction everyone
It's all fine
incredible ! Don't give up!
You rock Angela!!!
Thank you so much Dr. Puca! I feel like I’ve encountered or run into Rosicrucians, their symbolism/literature multiple times throughout my life. I was so excited when I saw you were doing an episode on it. I’ve always been incredibly curious but was always pretty confused because I never really had any knowledge of the occult until recent years. Thank you for this video and this whole channel! It has been extremely educational and useful in learning about the occult from an academic resource. 💕💗
Wonderful!
Thank you Dr. 😊
What an excellent last name, given the nature of your channel.
This was much needed enlightenment. Thank you for sharing. 💜
Thanks
Every video of yours I watch, I learn more. Thankyou so much.
Happy to hear that!
Something about this video resonated. Thanks, Angel!
Thanks
Currently reading Waite's "The Hermetic and Rosicrucian Mystery". This video comes at the perfect time!
Yay
This is a post for all that may see it,As above ,so below,As within,So without,As the universe,So the soul .♥️👍
Thanks
Peace, Profound
Great episode. Thanks Ms Pucca
Thanks 😊
Awesome job. Rosicrucianism is one of those organizations that seem to provide an answer for every question. I don't jive with everything but I appreciate it
Thanks
@@drangelapuca u r very welcome 🙏
Thanks so much Angela this is was such a fascinating and engaging topic.Fantastic quality content as always.
Thanks
Such a lovely introduction.
I’m here based on recommendation from both Dr. T. Sledge and Let’s Talk Religion, and true to my appreciation of their works, yours is also outstanding.
I’m looking forward to watching more of your videos as time permits.
Blessings & much Love.
🍃💙🍃💚🍃💛🍃
Thank you so much
кто бы знал! such unique information and history -- im continuously amazed by depths of your expertise and vastness of your occult interests!
Thanks
This was an amazing exposition
Dr. Justin Sledge brought me here, and I'm glad he did. 😀 Subscribed!
thank you
thanks james
Grazie mille Angela 🙏🪢
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I started my day with you here, my friend, and the video put me into a pleasant mood. Rosicrucianism seems like the most wonderful and important thing to me, and you have had this thing out since January! 🤣
I find it interesting that you mentioned it is dependent not on any form of philosophy (but, instead on inner visions), while the people who were part of the order seemed like the best trained minds in philosophy!
Well, thank you for making my day 😉
Glad you enjoyed it
@@drangelapuca Right after your video I experienced a little magic. That being that I found and purchased the only copy of the following leather-bound book I could find (it looks like a collection) by Heinrich Khunrath: The "Amphitheatrum Sapientiae Aeternae, Solius Verae, Christiano-Kabalisticum, Divino-Magicum, nec non Physico-Chymicum, Tertriunum, Catholicon instructore Henrico Khunrath Lips: Theosophiae amatore fideli" (what a title)
What a coincidence!
Love your symposiums!
Thank you
Fantastic video- very comprehensive intro - for such a large topic !!
Really enjoyed it and grateful To find your channel.
🙏❤️🧘🌍💫
Welcome aboard!
Another great video Angela , thank you for this beautiful presentation on the R.C. It meant alot to me , and you did a great job on this. I'm grateful to be in a position where I can follow and understand every word and I wouldn't add or take away anything in your explanation. Well done and condensed into a powerful set of facts relevant to the system as a whole and not the sum of its parts. And you've explained them perfectly as well lol.
Thx again for summing up something that complex with a poetic style. And with you I always learn something I didn't know , even with this one. From the fama to the confessio to the wedding , I thought was Brilliant when I first heard about how they went about the explanations . And if it's meant for you to join us providence will bring us together lol. In my mind I could see the flyers on the walls , brilliant. 🌹✝️
thank you!
Amazing as always !
thanks
Amaxing !! as all-ways~
Epic info, totally dovetails with my personal life experiences and revealed knowledge…!
Headed to watch the Magus stream on this topic toot sweet!
Thank u for all the hard work and clear presentation.
Thanks!
Nice , thank you Angela for your great work
Thank you too!
Great video, Dr.
Thank you
Thanks
Thanks for Enlightening insights Dr P!!
Thanks
I like to think that the vertical arm of the cross represents religion, the horizontal arm science & the rose esotericism, the unfolding of the inner.
The Fama doesn't mention Christian Rosenkreuz only C.R.
Fine presentation. Thank you!
Thanks
Great work! Your videos are always top notch!
Thanks
That was great. The rosicrucians are fascinating
they are
Illuminating.
You mentioned some of it in your talk, but I would like to see a more detailed timeline starting with the esotericism Rosicrucianism developed from and then showing how it became the basis for modern esotericism.
Thanks for the recommendation
My boss at work is Islamic and she almost the nicest person I've ever met.genuine and kind
Glad to hear that
My dear doctor Angela. I unabashedly am no Catholic. Though I admit to being a great admirer of their iconography, a respecter of their history & fascinated by the lore they've built within their church.
Therefore, I profess, I'm sitting in front of *Our Lady of Perpetual Help chapel* in beautiful Manitou Springs, Colorado. I make mention of my location, not for personal gains, only so to express how this tourist trap of a town located in the foothills of Pikes Peak is one of greater loves in this life. That being said, on with the show!
hope you liked the episode overall
Another great addition to the vast archive on your channel!
Glad you enjoy it!
Well done!
Thanks
I came up with a theory about the symbolism of the rose cross, that I haven't found elsewhere. I'm curious to hear your opinion.
The planet Venus makes a 5 petal rose around the sun in an 8-year cycle, every time Venus, Earth, and the Sun align you can mark a point and it creates a pentagram, a parallel to the crucifixion as the 4 wounds of Christ and the spear jab on the side of by the Roman. Making a perfect pentagram around the sun.
Now if you trace the entire pattern of venus it creates a 5 petaled rose as if the blood from his wounds (every time Earth Venus and the Sun align) spills onto the rose and it blossoms out of death on the cross.
thanks for sharing
Hello Angela! Thank you for this (and basically all you do). I was asked if I wanted to join the (modern) order some years ago while using their research library, but the time didn’t feel right. My studies were still more Thelemic leaning.
I’d say I’ve learned more from this video than the hrs I spent in their facility, and the numerous pamphlets that were given
I was wondering, what do you think of Paschal Beverly Randolph’s part in the history of the Rosicrucians? I was perplexed when I brought the name up to members of the order, and they didn’t know him at all (or, their response was more a weird stare back at me)
Do you believe, like some say, that the true Rosicrucians are separate from the public entities bearing the name today?
Thanks, again!
There are different groups that claim the Rosicrucian lineage, and SOME have aspects which are truly worth learning, if it's your cup of tea. Some don't have those worthwhile aspects, in my opinion, and a person could potentially be wasting their time for many years going down the wrong path, and thinking they're learning something worthwhile...but which is just a trinket, and not a method of legitimate spiritual development.
It's good to know that the results you're getting are worthwhile and wholesome, rather than being fascinated by this or that esoteric teaching.
It's surprising to hear that some members of a legitimate Rosicrucian order would be unaware of PB Randolph; it's nice that Deveney wrote a lengthy book on him, although according to some Rosicrucian groups, such a work may not contain all that there is to say about the man, and some parts might not be accurate.
That'd need further research
You kindda reminded me why i became a rosicrucion many decades ago. There were important beliefs, lost to time, but now resurfacing.
When i was in training ... who did what, was not important ... what can be done, how and why, were important.
Thank you Doctor for another great overview of one of the mystic lineages i use to have an interest in.made me realize despite what I thought i knew, i really have no idea other than a base knowledge of some of the group's symbolism. I hope you can do more on this subject in the future.
Glad you enjoyed it
That’s wonderful. Thank you! :)
you're welcome
Neat, I never hard of this before.
Glad you enjoyed it
Angela your classes are enlightening through the mirror of history, now have you considered my modern times channeler Lee Carrol? He claims to channel an entity that picked the name "Kryon" for our language and time, I´d like you to know his material is free available online.
Thanks
A fragmented soul is no joke folks .correct healing methods can reverse this.i truly feel sorry for those whom believe what's on the news is the truth ...be all and end all about life .miracles happen.quantam physics exist .and our ancestors new alot we don't ♥️have a fantastic weekend everyone
You too
Love too hear more…..
thanks
fascinating
thanks
As a fundamental Christian I appreciate this channel cuz it helps me think about combatting damnable heresies such as the those of the Rosicrucians.
That's sad
@@drangelapuca I find researching and combating heresy to be quite enjoyable activity. You have your interest for academic study and I have mine.
@@TheScamr the heresy of Christianity isn't something you've evidently thought about
@@sonder152 Expounds if you wish
good stuff... As a practitioner I stil find it very confusing... what is the difference between Hermeticism and Rosicrucianism, or Martinism what about freemasonry? etc... It seems a lot of time we are just splitting hairs or that the differences are very subtle but sometimes those subtleties are very important. someone needs to make a grid or diagram to parse all this out.
It's a complicated matter
signora, the true invisible order of the rosy cross is much older than the 17th century.
I recently read "Wisdom of the Mystic Masters" by Joseph Weed. I'm curious to know how they came up with the concept of the Law of Cycles. Is it based on astrology?
I promise I'll try not to ask any more questions until next weekend 😆
You can!
Great video! What’s your opinion about AMORC?
Fascinating order
I once heard the "Higgs boson"called the god particle,I don't suppose there's any relation to the "prima materia"? probably a multi faceted answer
Interesting
Thank you for this.
Can anyone comment on links between Rosicrucianism and German Pietism?
That'd interesting to research
Unfortunately if you can't see the difference without asking anyone else, then you'll never be truely tuned to the unknown in this lifetime. But it doesn't hurt to prepare your consciousness for the next time you reincarnate. Truth is to be tuned to the unknown, one has to realise it before the age age 3, independent of any other influence & acknowledge it as to whether you accept or reject what it is. if you don't do this before age 3 then you've missed it completely, universal fact! 🙏
Cara Dottoressa Angela. Ho appena scoperto il tuo canale. Che meraviglia 🙂. Ma, sai cosa vuol dire il tuo nome in Irlandese (Gaelico)? 😀. E un nome proprio giusto per te.
sì, lo so! Grazie
Would be great to hear a comparison with U.Eco’s Foucault’s Pendulum
Indeed
Good day Doc. I like the big hair.
I see now it's flowers. Lol
it is!
What do you think Gerald Garner had in common with the Rosicruicians that he hung out with for a time before joining the New Forest coven?
Difficult to say
@@drangelapuca I was just wondering and I don't know either, but perhaps he was interested in the mystery aspects. Thanks for your video on the Rosicruicianism, it was very informative and I learned a lot.
I understood absolutely nothing haha. But that's on me. Some things are just impenetrable. At least for now. I've been getting more interested in the occult but this is just too deep a dive. On to the next one...
❤️
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I don't really see why hermeticism seems to be so strongly linked with this movement, since as here's been said the manifestos claim an origin story going back to Adam, including Plato and Pythagoras, but they seem to skip on Hermes Trismegistus as owner of this sacred and secret knowledge. What makes it hermetic?
A lot of influences
You look like a real Goddess too for some reason
Hi Symposium 👍Angela may I ask what you tattoos on your arms represent?are they for protection?♥️
the alchemical symbols of the elements
@@drangelapuca ahh I see very interesting , thankyou
For everyone,You are never alone or helpless. The force that guides the stars guides you too.♥️
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Rosicrucians is beautiful 😍
thanks
Hello all,blessed be.may I please address the symposium if I may?I'm not new to the topic but certainly nieve to many aspects.what does Thoth and Hermes mean to you all?am I asking the correct questions to advance my path♥️🙏
They are central to hermetic philosophy
@@drangelapuca so is alchemy which I'm guessing us another word for Wicca ,founded by Hermes and Thoth?
Most of the online Orders are rubbish. I belong to a few Druid Orders and I'm also a Freemason, sadly finding a legit Order in this tradition is very hard to find.
thanks for sharing your thoughts
@@drangelapuca thank you for always making great content. Your information is always solid and reliable. Your academic approach is appreciated by those of us who value education over fluff.
Where do I find more info on rotae mudi?
Two more questions please 🙏 i know your a busy woman .have U heard of Lady Sabrina and our Lady of enchantment?my latest book is written by her 😊 wondering if it's a good option for basic knowledge advancement.also can runestone symbols be of use as a tattoo or only on the normal medium
I haven't. Thanks for the recommendation
@@drangelapuca thankyou for the answers Angela 😉
@@drangelapuca the book says Lady Sabrina has tought 25 K of students
All I know is that I know nothing.
5:10
body soul & spirit is wrong, Soul & Spirit are the same thing.....
According to one source I'm looking into, " _Soul_ is used to describe a person in premortal life---before birth..."
Not arguing with you. I do not seek contrast or contention, merely offering some additional details for further discussion.
Soul and spirit in western esotericism come from two Greek words, Psyche and Pneuma. Psyche is like the cognitive self, incorporated into a body, while Pneuma or Breath is like the spirit stuff that everything is sort of grounded in, and in particular in humans represented their eternal connection the the divine.
Interesting debate
Astrology is real,to my knowledge it doesn't take 5 mins to write it in a newspaper article though 😆it takes time and measurement
Thanks for sharing
Peace Profound 🌹