How to Control Hauptwerk from a commercial organ
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video I visit Three Counties Organs in Somerset, England, and meet Martin, the business owner, who kindly shows us how to use a stand-alone commercial organ to control Hauptwerk V4 running on a Windows 10 PC.
This is a very basic level 'How To' aimed at non technical people who want to see step by step exactly what to do in order to use an existing organ to control Hauptwerk.
I hope it helps someone.
For more on Virtual Organ hardware and conversions, please take a look at my website www.hauptwerkhardware.com. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Great video. No longer confused with "in" and "out" midi socket. Thanks.
Fascinating. I see many home organs at second-hand shops going for little money. Looks like one could set up a convincing “cathedral organ” starting with one of these cheap purchases.
Indeed, it seems that online, reasonable digital organs still command upwards of £1000 but I spotted an Eminent 325 which is an almost identical console to the one in this video, just a bit older, for £100 in a Salvation Army shop. It's been a godsend for practice, even more so now I know it's not hard to set up Hauptwerk. Although it will be rather limiting to not have pistons and expression pedals, so maybe some modification to the organ is required for that.
So clear, concise, and gratefully received! Cheers from your friend in Tennessee, USA
Excelent explanation!!!! Simple and clear... you are a good teacher.
God bless you (I am from Chile).
I am currently in the very early process of converting a three manual Conn 652 to work with Hauptwerk and this is the clearest most simple explanation I have seen - thank you so very much. I genuinely appreciate the time and trouble you have taken to make all of your videos. I have found that the Hauptwerk community have been so supportive and generous with help and advice and this is invaluable to someone like myself who is learning as I go!
The most clear explanation of this wonderful program in the entire web. Unfortunately there is not HW free edition any more.
..which is why I stick with version 4. 😉 Unfortunately, being on Social Security doesn't allow me to make large expenditures like this and the paid sample sets, so I have collected about a dozen free and demo sample sets over the years to use with the free or full demo version of Hauptwerk 4. (You still get the periodic chime on the full demo, but it's usually not loud enough to be too annoying.)🙂
@@danw1955 What is the difference in Version 4 against the other versions?
@@RobCharles1981 Essentially what Luis Enrique Garcia mentioned about the new version of Hauptwerk. Evidently, it's a limited trial only version, and then you have to buy it. HW V. 4 works fine for me, so I guess I'll stick with it for now.😉
Thanks for this - I'm finally inspired to connect up my 17 year old Wyvern Sonata!🤞🏻
The best video on Haupwerk set up and sofware on youtube! Thank you.
Excellent informative video.Hope we get many more like this on Hauptwerk.
Thanks for this video - this was the most helpful explanation I found on how to set up Hauptwerk on an electronic organ.
My laptop's sound card was not fast enough - we were getting a delay between the organ manuals and the sound - so I purchased a PreSonus audio interface - that solved the delay/latency issue --
We were looking at an expensive repair on a 30 year old organ - not sure it it would have been worth it - the organ, a Baldwin D-911 had midi so I'm glad I was able to give Hauptwerk a try -
V helpful, I didn’t realise you can click and hold any virtual organ element to get it to learn, previously I tried it but went through menus this way looks a lot easier.
Very good and straightforward video that shows you how simple it really is to get a MIDI organ working with Hauptwerk. I have a friend who is reluctant because he finds it difficult but I will forward your video to prove how easy it really is. And I've subscribed to your channel as well. Thanks guys, looking forward to your future videos!
Thank you just what I needed to help me get on setting my system up / I now have a full blown church organ at home
Just stumbled on this video - and I know Martin very well - a great video! :-)
Succinct, clear, and so helpful - terrific! Thanks so much.
👍....Your tutorial is a godsend ....as a refresher course for some of us.... but mostly for the not-so-electronically savvy person who is just getting acquainted with the wonderful marriage of Hauptwerk to any midi controlled organ......I enjoyed it...Thanks...JRZ
Thanks for your demo.
I hope I can find the equipment I need.
Now that was interesting, I didn`t know you could connect tabs/stops to the computer as well.
oh.. i saw an eminent grand theater 2000. played in past. like this organ
Thank you, presented really clearly.
If you have an older console that *DOESN'T* have MIDI ports, there's a ton more work to do and requires complete disassembly of the console, manuals, and stop tabs to install the switching and wiring required to trigger a MIDI encoder board that can 'talk' to the Hauptwerk software. Generally anything made 20+ years ago won't have a MIDI interface, even though MIDI has been around much longer. It's very easy to get several thousand dollars tied up in a 'conversion' as opposed to having MIDI ready consoles/keyboards available. (BTW, the only reason you would need to hook up the cable from the computer to the MIDI IN port on the organ, would be if you wanted to play a MIDI file on the computer and operate the organ console remotely. Hauptwerk only needs a MIDI OUT line from the organ *TO* the computer to function.)😉
This is very helpful, thanks especially as it appears you're using an older Eminent organ as your guinea-pig, which is what I have. Must give this a try soon, even though I'm actually fairly happy with the sound (besides the diapasons which are a bit odd)!
Thanks for this tutorial. It helped me a lot. Do you have any recommendation, how to reduce the noises of the pedal in a home setup?
Thank you so much for this BASIC tutorial! So doing the whole setup is unbelievably simple. Can I run MIDI tracks on the finished setup just like on the organ by itself? As I do every Sunday.
Too easy! Thanks.
Thank you for this great video. Now I know how to connect my instrument to my computer however I still have a question. In this video your organ has only 1 midi in/output that allows you in to control both manuals and pedal in Hauptwerk. My Johannus opus 910 organ (dutch brand) has 3 midi outputs; one for Great, one for Swell and one for Pedal. Does this mean I have to use 3 midi to usb cables to my computer in order to work properly with Hauptwerk? I'm a beginner in this software, knowing little so far, so before buying Hauptwerk and a new PC I want to have some more information about the setup. Can you help me? Thanks in advance. Kind regards, Sandy
A simple midi hook-up will only get you so far. If, for example, you wish to employ some of the original console controls (stops etc), then things become much more complicated. All these things are possible via bought-in hardware but takes 'conversion' of an existing organ to a whole new level.
They explained how to use the original stop tabs on the video, is there something I'm missing?
I have the Grand Organ software because my PC is a 32 bit cpu instead of a 64 bit cpu. Everything else is exactly the same 👍
Any tips for what sort of organ to watch for locally that is common in Canada and has midi out, two manuals, foot pedals and generates midi CCs for the stops/preset-toggles.
I'm stuck at 6:12 in your video as the USB MIDI interface option is not coming up for me to tick, only the Hauptwerk VST Link. I have the exact same type of cable, it's lighting up blue, red light comes when I'm pressing a key on my Cantorum Duo, so it all looks fine to me. What am I missing here? I'm trying this on Hauptwerk 4 also.
Brilliant!
What are the in and output for in the organ itself? My old digi organ of 30 yrs. has only one socket! Can I use this part. one for Hauptwork?
Good morning. How to configure the Hauptwerk program so that the program with samples is loaded immediately after turning on the computer. To make an organ without a monitor turned on with one button.
Regards.
I have a mint-condition two-manual and full pedalboard BALDWIN 46C electronic organ at home. I suspect that it is too early an instrument to have ANY Midi connection hardware, but I could be wrong. Before purchasing Hauptwerk software and the interface cords, I will investigate my organ and see if it does come with any MIDI "ins and outs" - and if not, the next step would seem to learn if there are connectors that can be installed into the BALDWIN. (Fingers crossed!)
Thank you, Gentlemen, for your very detailed and helpful demonstration! It's Friday evening, so I suspect I will be doing a considerable amount of "looking inside" our BALDWIN over this weekend.
Mapping question. If I load a second hauptwerk sample set and map it to my organ stops, what happens when I call up the first Hauptwerk sample set again? Will it remember the stopo mapping or will I need to map Hauptwerk set #1 again?
Hi, that was impressive. Q. I am moving to the US from UK soon and will be getting a new Yamaha Electone from Japan. I am keen to get the paramount set up but it looks complicated. I have an ipad pro. Do I need an apple mac laptop to set this up on the yamaha? Or just ipad?
I am trying to do the same thing with my organ. But I am not getting it connected. Can you please help me. Like - I am troubling to do the right click on the organ but it is not working. I don`t know why, I seek your guidance and support.
Thank you for this wonderful video. Can someone help me? I can not get the sound out of the organ. What do i have to plug in the organ so that the sound will come out of it?
I also would like to see this connection. I do not want sound from the computer, but want it from the actual organ.
@@robincantrell7756 We used a cable with a 2.5mm stereo jack for the computer end and twin phon0 (RCA) plugs for the Organ's AUX input. Some organs have phono sockets for their AUX input and some have 1/4 inch jack sockets. Best to take a look at the organ you plan to use before buying a cable.
Could you confirm what cable is needed to play the hauptwerk sound through the inbuilt organ speakers?
We used a cable with a 2.5mm stereo jack for the computer end and twin phon0 (RCA) plugs for the Organ's AUX input. Some organs have phono sockets for their AUX input and some have 1/4 inch jack sockets. Best to take a look at the organ you plan to use before buying a cable.
A couple of questions. How do you manage if the Hauptwerk organ version has more stops than the organ you are linking Hauptwerk to? Secondly, if the pistons and Swell pedal on the organ are not linked to Midi, will these still work? ie with thumbpistons that can be set on the organ without Midi to select certain stop combinations, will I still be able to use these to set up and select eg Gt Open 8ft, Octave 4ft, Nazard 2 2/3, and Fifteenth 2ft
If the Haupwerk organ has more stops than your console has stop controls, you can either use touchscreens for stop control or install more controls on the console. The former is easy, the latter potentially very difficult. Alternatively, you could install one of our new stop control modules, which includes a full capture system.
If the expression pedals are not linked to midi, they can usually be easily "midified" and will operate perfectly.
As regards thumb pistons, you may come across a console on which they simply send a midi message when pressed and can be linked to Hauptwerk as required. Others, such as the instrument featured in this video, operate differently. Selecting a stop will obviously send a midi message. Pressing a piston on which nothing is set will send nothing. When a piston is programmed to select one or more stops or couplers and is subsequently pressed, the midi messages created by each of the stored stops or couplers are sent. This also allows the whole capture system to operate independently of the sound generation system. If the console stop controls were mapped to Hauptwerk stops then the console capture system could be used with no further setup of Hauptwerk and completely independently of the Hauptwerk capture system.
How about no Swell and pedal? Or 1 keyboard only? How to set up a virtual organ ?
How can I buy midi bass pedal control which can be connected ?
Thank you for this. I own a Johannus organ and hope i can enhance it with the Hauptwerk system. If anyone has further advice, I hope you will share it. I assume i can use an iPad as the controller. Or should I invest in laptop of some sort? Thanks. I need all the help I can get.
I use a couple of Novation mini launchpads with my Opus 7 organ, attached above the rail on the front panel. Makes it look like a space ship! You have to memorise the stop/coupler setup, but I find that part of the fun. The Opus 7 pistons also put out MIDI so there’re useful too, but most of the stop tabs do not. I also run 2 of my 8 audio channels back through the Opus 7, as the speakers are quite effective. And you can mirror that audio out of the organ for extra grunt.
Hi Hauptwerk Hardware, I hope you're well. Sorry for my rant regarding Hauptwerk. I decided enough was enough, I've been in touch with them for years and each time, ignored, this time, I think it was due to a threat of international press involvement of a company guilty of disability discrimination, I received initial contact from one of the tech support who stated he had forwarded this email to Bret himself. Let's see. I genuinely would love to use this software because as a composer, I need access to an organ that's completely voiceable in the respect of recalling and blinding stops, divisions and general piston functionality, etc. I want to be able to use this software like any sighted person can :)
Here's a question for you. If I were to sort out 4 61 key keyboards and have them in a case to fashion a form of DIY console from scratch, how could a set of stops (button based) be made to serve as a complete group of stops either side of a console. the idea being that say as a 4 manual, 4 rows of stops say 15 or so down per side to be able to provide functions for stops, couplers, etc and then stops that could be configured as pistons, is that something that could be made?
Спасибо!
Is it possible to play using the speakers built into the organ?
Not usually - This is because when you operate the stops and play the organ its sound will be coming out of those internal speakers. Sure you can plug the output from your virtual organ into the Aux input on the real organ, but if you have hooked up the 'real' organ using Midi and you're using the 'real' stops to control your virtual organ, then both will sound at the same time. You can do it so long as you leave all the 'real' stops off and operate your virtual stops by touchscreens or some other method. Hope that helps. 🙂
And an eminent grand theatre :)
THE MIDI ON THESE OLDER ORGANS IS GOOD ONLY FOR KEY SWITCHES. TOO BAD! So there are encoders available to manage pistons, studs, and shoes. BUT...be aware if you plan to use the midi on your organ. It very well may NOT do stops, etc. The touch screen can ALSO be used to select stops and such however.
is that an eminent 370?
What was the music at the very beginning please?
The first couple bars of the fugue from Bach's Toccata & Fugue in D minor BWV565.
@@HauptwerkHardware greatly appreciated, thank you.
Now do one about latency and ASIO drivers.
D'you not want to thank the nice gentlemen for this helpful video first?
Comment faire pour écouter votre vidéo en français. Merci.
Je suis désolé de ne pas avoir de version française, et je ne parle pas français moi-même, donc je ne peux pas en faire une.
i need hauptwerk version 4, can anybody help me pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!
everything is fine but do not even mention "REAL organ" in the opening image. is not true.
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Bad sound! Hauptwerk as well?
correct pronunciation of HAUPTWERK would be an improvement
An Internet free of passive-aggressive trolls posting toxic comments would be an improvement.
All very well...but with things as they are who the fk can afford such things...for example I bought a 88 key hammer action MIDI controller keyboard for £500 yet a simple 27note non velocity sensitive ,fixed MIDI channel pedalboard cost £1800.....WTF
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You are pronouncing Hauptwerk incorrectly!
A real organ has pipes.
Maybe so, but not every organist has the space, budget or unrestricted access for/to the real thing. This product, and others similar, certainly serves a purpose.
@@davidkennedy4845 I definitely agree, and am myself currently working towards aquiring my own Hauptwerk setup. My comment intended to refer to the terminology- such an instrument should be referred to as an “electric organ”, “digital organ” or “electrium”, instead of simply as an “organ”. That’s all.