Smyth Busters: Is Dry Firing Bad for Your Guns?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ม.ค. 2023
- Today's myth runs like this: It's bad for your firearms to dry fire them. So don't do it. Ever. For any reason. Period. But is that really true? @CalebSavant and Steve give us the straight dope on dry firing, and the answer is..... It depends on the gun and its manufacturer's recommendation. Some older guns have barrels made of relatively soft steel and long firing pins with unrestricted travel. Dry firing CAN damage the mouth of the chamber IF you don't use a snap cap. That is case with pretty much any old .22 rimfire gun. When the firing pin hits the rim of the cartridge to detonate the priming compound, the rim protects the chamber. But if there's no cartridge in the chamber, that firing pin wallops the edge of the chamber and can damage it.
Dry firing is typically safe to do with centerfire guns, though Steve prefers not to dry fire revolvers with the old-style hammer nose firing pin. That's not a problem with modern Smith & Wesson revolvers that don't have the hammer nose. Most modern striker-fired guns from mainstream manufacturers are safe to dry fire, but always check to be sure. Any Henry or Ruger can be dry fired - even the Ruger Wrangler .22 LR revolver (per its manual) - as can modern Smith & Wesson centerfire revolvers and semi-autos.
A-Zoom and Carlson's make .22 Long Rifle snap caps, but Steve has a Thrifty Tip about very inexpensive .22 rimfire snap caps. (Cough! Drywall anchors. Cough!) In a pinch, you can even use a spent case, but just make sure there is NO live ammo anywhere in the vicinity.
If you haven't arrived at the concluded yet, the myth is BUSTED. It's OK to dry fire many firearms. Just check your owner's manual to make sure your gun is one of them.
Check out our earlier Quick Tip episode, "Is Dry Firing OK?" • Quick Tip: Is Dry Firi... - กีฬา
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Beware of dry firing! It may drastically improve your weapon handling along with aiming and firing capabilities!
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35+ years ago, I was a cadet in the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Academy. We were issued S&W Mod. 15 .38 revolvers, and the range staff told us to dry-fire practice the trigger squeeze as often as we could. After range sessions, I’d go home and clean the revolver and dry fire double action. I must have dry-fired that revolver tens of thousands of times, and the hammer nose was never damaged. That goes for all the other people in our class, and many other classes besides. I don’t remember any cadet ever experiencing any firing pin breakage due to dry fire practice. That same Model 15 still shoots great.
SW15 is a great gun. I like my 14-3 more…it’s a single action w case hardened competition trigger and it’s awesome.
I’m sure that was fine back then but I’ve got a couple old 70’s & 80’s Smith revolvers and I’m not dry firing them. Not taking a chance.
What if it’s a 22 caliber i drily fired it and now I’m worried because the firing pin was hitting in between the cylinder where the bullets go
I have a Model 19 from about the same period. Dry-fired it for months until the action was nice and smooth, and then the firing pin snapped off. It was an easy fix, though. I'd just hate for that to happen when I was actually firing the gun in a self-defense situation.
@@JozlynHensley-dw8cm.22’s are actually the one thing you really don’t want to risk dry firing because of rim fire. Rim fire 22s will take some serious damage from dry firing
Snap caps are useful to do function checks and practice loading/unloading, in addition to making dry firing 100% OK.
One of my "favorite" early experiences was showing someone a Spanish handgun I had and asking them not to dry fire it. I was lectured about how that is bull and he pulled the trigger anyway. An audible plink was heard across the room.
"Welp, that was my firing pin's tip. I guess you know where to order a replacement then?"
Fun fact: he never found one and we had to lathe up a copy.
I hate people like that; that is why I hestitate to let anyone handle my firearms.
Just out of curiosity, what handgun was it?
Ruger 22
Ouch
He recently revealed in a recent upload that it was a Spanish Astra 400 or 600 (I forgor)
Thanks for the dry wall anchor tip! Another type of gun that should never be dry fired without a snap cap are older side by side double barrel shotguns. Many of the better ones even came with snap caps.
Good to know.. thank you. Those I hold deer.. although I don’t have as many as I’d like to…
Just dont forget to remove it. 🇺🇸👌
Ask any competition shooter- they'll tell you they pull the trigger in dry fire 5-10 times for every time they pull the trigger in live fire. Dry fire is the foundation of good gun handling, good transitions, and good visual discipline and patience. Live fire is for working grip and trigger control at speed.
I'm a competition shooter (currently not shooting) and no, I NEVER dry fire.
Snap caps if I have them or at the least a fresh fired case at the very least.
The firing pin has to hit something.. something it isn't designed to hit in normal operation with that kind of force.
The primer will "push back" somewhat when the pressure builds in the chamber and this will counteract the spring force.
Rickman also played the bad guy in Quigley Down Under. Nice guns in that movie, too.
Very nice guns in that movie.
The Smith & Wesson instruction sheet that was supplied with every revolver back in the 70s (the one that was a folded paper with a picture of the revolver on the front) included an instruction that the user should “practice dry-firing with empty revolver,” or words to that effect.
I think Ruger still does (certainly the last few Super-Blackhawks (one Bisley, one plow handle) I have say that).
You told me I could dry-fire all I want... now my Mathew's bow is in shambles. Thanks a lot guys smdh.
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That's funny, thanks
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Die Hard is the best Christmas movie ever made!
Before it became a "no-no", I've dry fired my S&W Mod 19 about a "gazillion" times since the 70's without any ill effect whatsoever. I also used to flip the cylinder shut with a flick of the wrist (like in the movies) about a couple of "Bazillion" times and the cylinder and crane are still like the Rock of Gibraltar. That's one tough gun, Thank God!
Oh man...
I remember back in the days (the '80s) when I and my bro were kids.. We actually had an easy access to our dad's Colt Peacemaker .22. Yea. That western revolver was way cool. We dry fired it often. I can just wonder how back in the days we did not get ideas to point it at each other nor other living beings etc. We also knew where the ammo was stored (different location) - but somehow no ideas to load the sweet thing came to mind. We did get to shoot it live at times - accompanied with dad, of course.
But. From what gotten to know: yea, we temporarily ruined it by dry firing it. Dad got it easily fixed - but still.. Yea. If we back then woulda gotten a technical explanation of how and why (not to) - we coulda avoided it completely. Back then a thing as centerfire or rimfire did not get explained to two very young boys...
RIP Bengt Jordas (1954-2022).
You guys have such an amazing but relaxed banter.
I fixed a inexpensive German made .22 lr single-action for a friend, it had been dry-fired so much the chamber mouths were peened out to where a round couldn't load! Replaced the broken frame mounted firing pin with one from Numrich, and removed the chamber peening with a fine rat-tail file, got it back into service....
You removed metal instead of putting it back in place?
@@johnqpublic2718 That is the function of a file. How would you have gone about the repair?
Wouldn't that mess with headspace?
@matthewbeaver5026 Nope. The "dimple" was where the cheap steel cylinder chambers were struck by the frame-mounted firing pin, during "dry firing", driving metal over time into the bore of the Chamber. The rest of the rebated chamber fully supported the rim of the cartridge, and the new firing pin was still able to crush the rim, setting off the rimfire priming. I just carefully filed the "dimple" down to where a .22 could slide past it easily, and it worked fine. I strongly pointed out WHY it had gotten so battered to the owner, with instructions to NEVER DRY FIRE IT AGAIN, unless he religiously used snap-caps! Far as I know it's still working...
Was it a Rohm? My grandfather had one
I smoothed out the trigger pull on a Smith & Wesson 629 by adding some oil and dry firing repeatedly. This method was recommended to me by a gunsmith. He was right.
When I was a kid, my first full size rifle was an old mossberg bolt action target rifle. I put thousands of rounds of .22LR thru that rifle. I also spent many hours practicing different shooting positions with dry fire practice. Eventually, the end of the firing pin broke off. My grandfather and I took it to a gunsmith to have it fixed. The rim of the chamber was also pretty deformed. The estimate must have been pretty high, because we left with a brand new 10/22 instead.
Rim fire cartridge vs cemter fire. You don't dry fire .22s
@@Cole-xq2tlunless the manf tells you you can.
The winchester wildcat requires dry firing to field strip after shooting
Thanks guys! You cleared up a lifetime of confusion for me. Great vid!
Love to see Caleb's m51. Took a while to restore mine, but w n at an oddball little gem. As for the great dry-fire debate, it will never be settled because some people (on both sides) always know "better".
More love for the m51. I have one, rather complicated to work on. It makes me appreciate the simplicity of a 10/22.
The firing pin has to hit something.. something it isn't designed to hit in normal operation with that kind of force.
I have a Springfield Armory Mil-Spec 1911 in .45 that I dry fire three or four times a week and have for years without any damage. It is an identical gun to my carry gun that is a 42 year old Colt Mk IV Government in .45. Both have the spur hammer, standard grip safety, 5” barrel but the SA is Stainless vs the blued Colt. Part of my dry fire drills include drawing from concealment so I don’t want excessive wear to the blued finish or to put a lot of mechanical wear on the Colt. I do regularly shoot both guns at the range so they both shoot the same for me. Good video. Thanks.
Charter arms revolvers can't tolerate it. I got in the habit of dry firing my Glocks and one day tried my little .38. It took only 3 trigger pulls to break the transfer bar right off onto the floor.
For Cz B firing pin safety models it is highly recommended to use an oring to be placed at the hammer notch during dry fire to prevent possible damage to the firing pin roll pin.
Learned that the hard way...
Thanks for the tip, got my first handgun, a cz75b a couple of weeks ago
Does this apply to the SP-01?
@@InsanePacoTaco I'd say 'yes', the only hammer-fired CZ that might not need to worry is the Shadow 2 or others without a firing pin roll pin.
@@InsanePacoTaco if you see a hole where the rear cocking serrations are on the slide then that means the gun has a firing pin/drop safety therefore using an oring is a very good idea during dry fire
I don't get to the range as much as I would like to, so I use the iTarget laser system at home. It uses a laser cartridge that functions as a snap cap. I have had catastrophic failures of my Ruger LCP II and Ruger LC380. The firing pin retainer spring of the LC380 broke during a session, and the firing pin and firing pin spring ejected through the hammer port across my thumb and fell to the floor. In another session, the LCP II's hammer broke and flipped out across my shoulder and fell to the floor. Ruger repaired both pistols free of charge, but told me to avoid "excessive" dry fire.
Indeed, nothing lasts forever. RIP Alan Rickman
Alan Rickman was an excellent actor, but the next time you watch Die Hard look at the expression on his face as he falls from the building. It is a genuine look of surprise because the director initiated the fall without warning Alan ahead of time.
Man! You outed my secret snap caps!!! On some revolvers the cylinder won't turn because of the flange thickness of the plastic anchor. Just sit there with a file for about 10 minutes and you can thin down about 20 of them. Also, Alan Rickman was the bad guy in another of my favorite movies, Quigley Down Under. He played baddies to the hilt---great actor!
To the hilt? You mean like Sheriff of Nottingham skewered by Costner in that holywood parody on Robin Hood? :)
He was the angel Gabriel in “Dogma”.
Guys, thanks for clarifying something that many of us try to do (dry fire) with center fire guns, generally with a snap cap, but also do without with newer firearms. Don't generally do with rimfires without snap caps, though guilty a few times... Caleb, been voting for ya in the Gundies!
My CZ P-01 had the roll pin that retains the firing pin break after many thousands of dry fires. I have no idea how many dry fires it was, but I imagine a lot more than most people ever do. Thankfully it was a $5 part replacement, and it gave me an excuse to put in the Short reset/ trigger spring kit from Cajun Gun Works. Zero issues since then, and I still love my P-01! Best pistol I’ve ever shot
Yep don’t dry fire a CZ without a snap cap. My P10 came with a snap cap in the case so I never dry fire without it
Love the p01
As an owner of a cz p01 as well, isn’t it great being the owner of one of the best pistols ever made (if not the best)
I've dryfired a Beretta 92 until the tip of the firing pin snapped off. I think there was some issue with the heat treat on those parts because the trigger bar also was wearing extremely quickly and the trigger pull became inconsistent during that dryfiring. Sent it to Beretta, got it back in a month and the gun has been fine ever since, dryfiring it thousands of times.
Would be cool to see a pt2 to this in regards to dryfiring without a firing pin.
Thanks for mentioning Henry! That’s the exact reason I came looking for videos like this!
Love the 151 have one I picked up a few years back and redone the stock on it great 22 !!
Back many years ago the firing pin on my smith 15-22 chattered into several pieces from dry firing so much. I didn’t know any better back then
Years ago a friend of mine owned a cheap 25 auto and he would watch cop shows and dry fire it shooting the bad guys on tv. After several months of being cooped up in the winter months and having some health issues, he went out on his farm to shoot it. He loaded it up and fired it, and the magazine emptied with one pull of the trigger. He now had a full auto 25 auto. I'm not sure what happened, but I think maybe all of the dry firing may have peened the bolt face forward enough to cause this. He no longer has the gun.
He no longer has the gun. *winks aggressively*
I had a Ruger 77/22 that I never dry fired, but would decock it by holding the trigger back while slowly closing the bolt, and still it raised a burr on the edge of the chamber mouth.
I love finding this a month late and getting movie trivia out of it.
During a Ruger Police Armorer school, the Ruger Technician encouraged each trainee to dry fire the then new GP-100. His recommendation was to use a moderate amount of forward pressure on the back of the hammer while pulling the trigger somewhat slowly. He advised that this helps to 'mate' the surfaces of the trigger and hammer. My almost 40 year old Stainless GP-100 is still a smooth working revolver.
7:05 - Nothing Lasts Forever is the name of the book that Die Hard is based on. Caleb definitely has Die Hard on the brain
Great info keep it coming appreciate it 🙂
I'm glad henry says its ok to dry fire their rimfires. I don't dry fire for practice with my lever action .22, but it's nearly impossible to not dry fire it because there's no way to tell when you are out of rounds unless you count each shot, or watch the action to make sure a new round loads into the chamber each time. But doing those things is really no fun when you are trying to have fun plinking, so I almost always dry fire it at least once every time I shoot a tube through it.
benadryl cumberbun @6:38 had me rolling
Love that old Mossberg! Is that a suppressor on the muzzle?
When I first saw the Mossberg in the video, I ran to the safe just to make shure my Mossberg 151 was still there.
I had the hammer nose break on my 4” model 66 while dry firing back in 1982. Easy fix. It didn’t stop me from continuing to dry fire and it’s never happened since. I’ve never seen any other S&W center fire revolvers break a hammer nose for any reason.
I just replaced the hammer nose in mine. It snapped right off at the range while firing live ammunition.
I have an original Colt Mustang Plus II from about 1983 that ended up with a bent firing pin from dry firing. By the time this had happened, parts were unavailable and I had to have a new firing pin custom made. She works fine now but I won't dry fire again without snap caps. Being a retired Air Force weapons instructor, I'm used to dry firing and have no issues doing so with all kinds of guns, but I don't dry fire any rim fires regardless what the manual says.
this is one of the questions i have seen batted around more than most others over the years
I’ve got .22 snap caps. I believe I got them from Hornady years ago. I’ve got a Winchester 94 in .25-35 that was made in 1912. When I was a teenager a friend of mine dry fired it a few times and broke the firing pin. I got to admit I’d dry fired it a few times too but it never broke on me. Luckily a modern firing pin (1974) fit.
Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the video. I have repaired a few rimfire revolvers, semiautomatic pistols, and rifles, that were excessively dry fired. Can you consider talking about the damage done, and how to swage the damaged area?
The firing pin of a Llama .380 ACP (the one that looks like a shrunken 1911, complete with grip safety, swinging link and locking lugs on the barrel) broke while dry firing without a snap cap. Suggests that 1960s Spanish metallurgy might not actually be up to the potential otherwise implied by the locked-breech design.
Star model b and BM are known for breaking too
I did it once to my .25 pistol. Doing it one time shouldn't hurt anything would it?
spanish guns shatter in your hads. noted
The Beretta Tomcat is the only centerfire I’ve owned that was damaged by dry fire. The tip of the firing pin popped right off at some point and there I was at the range with the pistol a few weeks later (having carried it during the interim) and no bang.
Same with mine, to me it looked like the firing pin is machined with a stress riser. Thank goodness I didn't carry mine but it was an awkward range trip until I figured out what the heck happened... Fortunately it was easy to find new firing pins, although I also had to buy a new set of punches to get one small enough to do the install.
Beretta Manual specifically mentions Not to Dry-Fire. It also mentions not using certain ammo...
@@richardbaxter3886 yeah, I never read the manual. Bought it used. I replaced the FP and sold it. Other micro-compacts in 9mm more effective.
The Beretta Pico had the same problem initially, though Beretta supposedly fixed the problem in later versions. Berettas are great guns, but springs and firing pins seem to be a recurring issue.
I’ve never heard of Benadryl Cumberband! Excellent video as always
I had the firing pin on an older taurus model 85 snap at the taper from dry fire, mind you it came to me used and I had dry fired it quite a bit...
I have a Ruger Single Six stainless .22/.22 mag convertible I bought in 1978. I dry-fired it some, but stopped because the firing pin dented the chambers where the cartridge rim would fit. I am not sure how hard those older stainless are compared to the blued models, but it obviously wasn't designed to be dry-fired. Because of that, I stopped dry-firing rimfires afterward. Oddly enough, I have a Savage 24D in .22 mag/20 gauge bought for me in 1967 or 68 that I dry-fired (.22 mag bbl) for a while and there was/is no damage to the chamber.
I use snap caps exclusively when dry-firing during function tests and practice, and in the case of rim-fire firearms, either a snap cap or dry-wall anchor works just fine, thank you.
In some pistols, excessive dry-firing without a snap cap can damage a firing pin stop (CZ and Springfield Armory XDs come to mind).
Most guns will be 'damaged' each and every time it is dry fired.. what stop the firing pin from flying down the barrel? where those hard parts meet peening will happen eventually, or outright breakage.
I have an old spanish side by side 12 GA that I broke almost as soon as I got it by dry firing it without snap caps. The internal hammers both broke and I used a dremel and an old lawnmower blade to make new ones. It was either that or hang it on the wall so I figured there wasn't much to lose. That gun never gets snapped any more without at least a snap cap or a spent shell. The rest of my guns that I compete in CAS with are modern Italian manufacture and I dryfire the heck out of them without damage except I have worn out some main springs but no damage from the hammer/firing pin. Cheers. Pop
Solid info
Excellent video!!!
As a US Marine, the first week of marksmanship training was called "snapping in". This was sighting in with a condition 4 (completely cleared and unloaded) weapon. We dry fired these M16 A2 rifles thousands of tomes a day at a 55 gallon drum, painted white with the 3 different target variants. Able, dog and B- mod shapes. Dry fire allows for the marksman to know the cycle of the trigger group and to practice sight alignment, sight picture, trigger sqeeze and breath control in congruence with pulse and body position. These, for a basic Marine, are the keystone of building a great marksman. Every Marine is taught these principals of shooting. The tear down and reassembly of your weapon are also integral to making an effective shooter. Dry firing will not hurt any center fired weapon. So long as they are clean and properly lubricated. However, never dry fire a compound bow. That's bad. But dry fire is a great way to know your weapon. Good video gents. Carry on. OOH RAH!!!
Stars in 380 (S) and 9 (B Super) NEED SNAP CAPS,
from experience. They're also difficult to find and hard to replace. Hope this helps.
I have a Taurus Judge that I bought for shooting.45. I was surprised by its accuracy. The manual says no dry firing. I keep that pistol in my desk drawer in my office. I have dry fired it thousands of times. Still shoots great on the range.
Great video as always fellas!
Top tip: Rather than a snap cap, I just wedge a foam earplug in the rear of the slide, between the firing pin and hammer face, on hammer-fired autos like 1911, H&K, Walter, Tokarev, Auto Mag, Star etc. I can pull the trigger and drop the hammer a million times and it will never touch the firing pin. Some guns can take dry firing, others (notably the Star) cannot. But why subject a gun to unnecessary abuse when you don’t have to?
Great info!
I dry fire my grandfather's old Mossberg 151 (made in the early 1950's) all the time. Never had any issues with it. It was passed down to my father and now to me. All of its life it has been dry fired with no visible marks on the chamber face. If you look at the firing pin, there is a chisel point that strikes the cartridge but there is also a square flat section that would strike the chamber face if no cartridge is present. This prevents it from destroying the chisel tip or the chamber face. I am not sure if the newer 151's have changed but mine is about 70 years old with no issues.
Love the office reference. 😂
I have a Colt Jr. .25 acp that the firing pin broke on a dry fire. At the time, I don't think I had a manual to see if it said don't dry fire, but that is the only issue I have ever had with dry firing
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I own a Magnum Research 45-70 BFR. The manual says do NOT dry fire this gun. It will dislodge firing pin bushing
Great video, guys!!
I purchased an Iver Johnson Trailsman 66 project gun. Timing & lockup is off as well as cylinder damage from dry firing. The chambers are slightly mushroomed, the firing pin is on the hammer.
The Ithaca single shot .22lr lever action I learned to shoot on was damaged by dry firing. Ironically, the firing pin is fine, but the chamber mouth was peened to the point that you need a knife to extract spent cases. Still good for plinking, but it is "slow fire only."
I stumbled across this video and asa gun enthusiasts yall resemble my friends group so well
Open question. Are those dummy bullets used for training ok to dry fire? My 9mm dummy rounds look just like the real thing but they don't have powder in them and they have a rubber insert where the primer would usually go. So if you dry fire the pin will strike the rubber primer insert. It might eventually mess up the rubber but those rounds are relatively cheap. Same thing with my SKS training rounds, they also have a rubber primer insert. So what say ye? OK to dry fire? I don't usually dry fire with rounds in the firearm, but after watching this, it couldn't hurt to use a training round.
You shouldn’t dry fire a Beretta TomCat either. I have replaced broken firing pins because of such behavior.
PS: as mentioned, people shoot holes in their walls all the time from dry firing. My father said to never pull a trigger in the house. That probably saved a few holes in our house. I use A-Zoom snap caps for everything. Thanks for the video.
thank you for naming the gun we shouldnt buy if we actually want to train
Definitely dammaged a few old 22's but never any others iv ever dry fired. One thing u forgot is: it's highly discouraged to dry fire a percussion gun.. most of the time u can replace the nipple, but why risk damming it or the hammer or striker on it.
Gotta love the Alan Rickman duel in, Quigley Down Under.
Suppose he shouldn’t dry fire his percussion cap revolver.
I dented the chamber on my old S&W 22a really badly. It also broke the firing pin. I barely dry fired it at all and it still caused a massive amount of damage. I have owned dozens of other centerfire and rimfire guns that I dry fire all the time with zero issues. I hated that 22a so much!
Love The Office reference😎
Alan Rickman was great in Galaxy Quest, too!
Was that a reference to the Office I caught at the beginning Caleb?
There are some centerfire guns with certain conditions for dry fire as well. For example: "CAUTION: Dry firing your RUGER® SR-SERIES with the magazine removed may result in damage or unnecessary wear to the magazine disconnect mechanism and/or striker."
RTFM
thank you for naming the gun i shouldnt buy “warning. we made this gun kinda poopy. please baby it and never do hardcore training with it”
I dry fire a couple times after cleaning for the function tests, but if I'm working the trigger repeatedly, snap caps. Why not?
A-Zoom makes snap caps that don't eject on each racking which makes it even better.
I agree with following manufacturers recommendations.
Just thought I'd add that many owners of Ruger LC9/LC380 believe that excessive dry fire without a snap cap, may cause damage to the firing pin retainer and firing pin. On inspection, my firing pin retainer was pretty bent, which allows excessive travel of the firing pin. Ruger made some unusual design choices with this gun. I started dry firing the LC380/LC9 only with a snap cap. And I started doing that with other guns too even though I probably don't have to.
I had my ruger ec9 firing pin break from dry firing with a barrel block. I thought it would be safe since it was like a snap cap but apparently not. I have seen quite a few lc9/ec9 have the same issues with strikers
Good Video/Info.
Some Over/Under and Side by Side Shotguns can have their Firing Pins damaged by Dry Fire. Had that happen on an old Fox Model B SxS.
Cz75B and other Cz Pistols with the Roll Pin Firing Pin Retainer can damage that Roll Pin with Dry Fire. Placing an O-Ring over the Firing Pin
will allow for Dry Fire Practice. Some older Rossi and Taurus Revolvers with the Hammer mounted Firing Pin can break or damage the
Firing Pin with dry Fire.
Why does it hurt a hammer mounted firing pin on a centerfire firearm?
Dry firing with snapcaps is best
The old guys face when he slammed that slide shut empty the first time hahahahaha
When I was looking at 1940s-50s pre-Model 17s a while back, a number of them had the back edge of the chamber peened over from dry firing... If correcting this remember to use the correct tool, a chamber swedge, not a reamer. Don't want to remove any material.
I try to be careful with what I dry fire. I use snap caps when I can. I broke the firing pin in my older marlin 336 30-30 years ago because I thought it was safe to dry fire. Being center-fire and all. Now i am really carefuo with rimfires especially and older center-fire guns.
Such a Great Show !!!!!
I bought a Chiappa M1-22 and it had a sear issue, and the firearm would constantly burst fire until it would sometimes not pick up a round. Of course when this happened, it would cause a dry fire. I sent the rifle to Chiappa to get repaired and one of the receptionist ripped me a new one for "dry firing" the rifle. I tried explaining to her that I wasn't dry firing the rifle, the rifle was dry firing itself after the end of a burst fire because of their poor machine work on the hammer sear. She refused to understand what I was trying to tell her and just kept telling me that I can't be dry firing the rifle. There was chamber damage because the firing pin is long and was peening over the edge of the chamber. Once again... Not my fault. I wasn't intentionally dry firing the rifle, it's just what would happen at the end of a period of burst fire caused by their shotty work. She simply refused to except my explanation and just kept telling at me about not dry firing the rifle...lol 😂
I have a No. 1 SMLE that I believe has been damaged by dry firing. The striker will impact inner contours on the bolt if dry fired. Mine has peened out an impacted interior bolt surface that will now cause the bolt to lift if dry fired, but not lift if fired on a cartridge with primer. I consider it safe as opening a bolt on an empty chamber is harmless, but it is disconcerting.
The younger dude looks like he just time traveled from 1950s 😅
Love this Channel 🎉🎉
I bought a Model 60 new in 1986 - I think. Can't uqite remember, but I still have it. It has seen at least five thousand rounds fired in rapid succession in defense practice. I dry fired it plenty as well. Eventually, while at the range, the hammer nose shattered and impacted into the hole. I took it to my smith, who replaced it, and it's good as new.
So, whether dry firing or just thousands of shocks finally broke it doesn't matter, and who can say. Whata I am certain of is that I am a pretty good operator of the Smith &Wesson Model 60 as a result of dry firiong to develop muscle meory and actual rapid fire double action practice. Plinking isn't training. Serious drill does cause wear and tear. It's natural.
I have a SP2022 and a P229 Legion, both Sigs. I have had to replace the firing pin positioning pin on the SP2022 about 6 times since buying it in 2013. I’ve had the P229 since 2020. It has less than 400 live rounds through it and I’ve had to replace the firing pin positioning pin in it once. I use snap caps and or a laser bullet whenever I dry fire. With availability and pricing I don’t shoot live fire as much as I used to. The firing pin positioning pin is a rolled pin and looks like the Apple Logo when it fails. To be safe I started replacing the pin on the SP2022 every six months to a year depending on the volume of dry fire after the first failure. Now that the P229 has the same problem and the same rolled pin type I’ll replace the pin in it at the same frequency. When that pin fails the firing pin will slide beneath the “bite” on the pin and get lodged in the channel to where its unseen or will protrude out the breech face and be stuck there. Needless to say these guns are not handling dry firing well. Needless to say I’m skeptical about the claim that dry firing doesn’t hurt a gun. Every trigger pull is going to put wear and tear on parts. Some parts are more durable than others. These rolled pins are the weakest link for the guns I have.
I love that die hard Hans Gruber dry fire talk. And yes it is a Christmas movie
I caught Office reference at the beginning 🤣🤣🤣
I won't dry-fire a gun unless I'm positive it's ok for that model, even then only with the permission of the owner if it's not mine. often the owner doesn't know so this avoids any looks of horrified surprise. I just went to re-supply with a variety of snap-caps. these don't last forever. some are dark red/brown. yeah, you can generally tell vs. live ammunition but I'm going for the standard dummy-blue color this time to be more obvious. thanks for the reminder! 😎
It always bothers me when someone passes their hand in front of gun. Friend blew whole in hand with 357.
My springfield hellcat (first gen osp) had the firing pin break off. I think it was from dry firing but I can't be sure.
Not the LC9.... but (from personal experience), Ruger is fantastic about fixing the gun for a very fair cost! ...even when you have a used gun and the firing pin flies out the back of the pistol dry firing........just expect the magazine disconnect to be replaced when it's returned....
Beretta PX4 Storm 9 MM manual specifically says it can't be dry fired. Wonder why...but I don't do it.
thank you for telling the whole comment section. we will use this valuable data to avoid guns that arent rugged enough to train with